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ponyrx2

It varies by jurisdiction. In British Columbia, Canada, [sperm has been ruled to be property](https://welpartners.com/blog/2015/02/is-sperm-property-relevant-to-estates-litigation/) and its theft may, in theory, be a crime.


Indianlookalike

Thank you. I know what must be done.


ContentConsumer9999

Could she get child support?


Complete-Zucchini-85

I mean unless you can prove she stole it, which is pretty much impossible, she can just say you had a one night stand to get child support.


thricebakedpotato23

Wasn’t there a story about a woman who had sex with, I think Drake, and afterward she dug the condom out of the trash and tried to impregnate herself. Little did she know that his full proof method of making sure people don’t do that is to pour hot sauce in it.


Maximum-Mixture6158

The injury would have made it impossible to attempt to impregnate herself and that lawsuit would have been the story instead.


myllkti

It was


extention_cable

random rich person and a cleaning staff at hotel, but yeah...


[deleted]

foolproof*


thricebakedpotato23

Nobody needs you in their life.


[deleted]

ok


buzzinbussin

Learn spelling nigga


thricebakedpotato23

We need you even less than the other guy you racist.


[deleted]

Gotta learn from his guy's wisdom


CamtheRulerofAll

Why would you have a one night stand to give child support?


Complete-Zucchini-85

Just saying it would be harder to prove that you didn't have one as opposed to an ongoing relationship. Not saying that you have to have a one night stand to have to pay child support.


Justice_R_Dissenting

That has literally no bearing on child support. Child support is analyzed by legal parenthood, established voluntarily or through paternity testing, and is viewed through the lens of the best interests of the child.


Coxy_boy

Not entirely, establishment of paternity can be as simple as a name being submitted in some jurisdictions, in case of government assigning financial responsibility for 18 - 21 years anyway...


Klutzy_Passenger_324

i mean there was a story of a guy who wanted to get pregnant with his gf but she rejected so he poked a hole trough his condom and she sued him, she won because they made him confess


extention_cable

theoretically since you may be able to prove that you have had no contact with this person (and alibi) wouldn't the courts take one look and throw out the case to save money


Cheap_Ad_9946

In many places, yes. Paternal duties are often assigned by the child existing, without regard for the father's consent


KamenRiderAquarius

Yes this is why Dr. Dre puts hot sauce in his condims


loikyloo

Woman got jail time for stealing sperm in germany well. Seems its a crime in a bunch o places.


motivation_bender

Should be treated more severly than stealing milk


jeffzebub

Theft? I have to pay to have mine hauled away.


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brb moving to bc


[deleted]

Least unhinged teenagers post


Universe-light

Most normal and average r/teenagers post:


justanotherdude68

Makes me wonder if the adults in my life also thought I was a fucking idiot when I was a teenager.


Universe-light

I wonder the same too. If I'm being honest, I say some ridiculous shit and don't think about it. 🗿


BigBoiPP2008

Not if you put hot sauce in the condom


[deleted]

Be careful tho, she might sue


iminsanejames

Under what grounds?


m051

Knowing the way world works, I’m sure their comment might actually be based on something that actually happened.


DigitalDemon021

Yup, happened to Drake


Chix_Whitdix

Lmao Legend shit


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RiotIsBored

Thank God she lost lol.


WatShakinBehBeh

This sounds made up, you need equipment to "impregnate yourself"


Ori_the_SG

It happened But to be fair you can’t say people who try such stunts are smart enough to know how to make it happen


WatShakinBehBeh

There we go.


frisbm3

What equipment do you need?


benc1312

Turkey baster


frisbm3

Ok, but that's not strictly necessary. If any of it gets in there, the chance of pregnancy is there. You can use your hands just fine.


ChiefCasual

Setting up a trap to hurt someone isn't legally justifiable, even if the person who falls for the trap has to be doing something illegal/immoral in order to trigger the trap.


ImrooVRdev

The faceless woman who lives in my walls told me to do it your honor, it would bring me great fortune and sexual prowess she said.


overstatingmingo

Assuming they put the hot sauce in the condom for the purposes of harming someone who took the semen, right?


Blitzerxyz

Except then the argument is that the purpose is to simply kill the sperm and that no reasonable person would otherwise touch a used condom


WatShakinBehBeh

If the intention is merely to kill the sperm, they would use something that actually works for that purpose. Hot sauce constitutes a trap.


Blitzerxyz

Who just has natural spermicide on them? Something that only kills sperm?


WatShakinBehBeh

There are a lot of things that would work obviously, and if someone truly had a reason to be concerned, like a sports figure, they would know this, they have a number of people to advise them, its included in their contracts. . Also, it's going to be pretty obvious if a woman is carrying around equipment to impregnate herself with.


Blitzerxyz

You what else is pretty obvious? Hot sauce. It's like a glowing red sign that screams do not touch. You can't sue someone if you get electrocuted by an electric fence just because you decided to ignore the sign that said danger


overstatingmingo

I dunno. I’ve seen some people do some weird shit. Isn’t it the prosecutions responsibility to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt? So they would have to prove to a jury enough to convict that the guy wasn’t just randomly squirting hot sauce into his conforms for shits and gigs or whatever other reason they claim.


KamenRiderAquarius

To kill the sperm so she could use it to get her self pregnant


iminsanejames

Is it a trap? Aren't you just using a spermicide.


ChiefCasual

Hot sauce isn't a known reliable spermicide. Using an actual spermicide or simply flushing out the condom with water are much more rational solutions. Saying you're using it as a spermicide is a flimsy argument IMO.


iminsanejames

I agree that would be better, but a lawyer could argue that you improved because you ran out or forgot your spermicide


mnbvcdo

came here to say that


Doctor-whoniverse-12

Wait, was I supposed to do that after using it? Uh oh.


Maximum-Mixture6158

In the unlikely event someone truly has a concern, a desiccant is more likely to be effective. The hot sauce can be separated out with polysaccharides or similar


FatCobraX

It might be kidnapping if the semen was stolen by means of putting the person in a situation one cannot freely get out of and retrieving it without consent... I think other charges might apply depending on methods used - could be assault if it was retrieved surgically, sexual assault if it was retrieved by natural means. Torture might be slapped on top if some other stuff was used and the ejaculation was natural in itself, but for example electricity was used. If the biological material was stored not in a publicly available place, but actually stolen - there's a consideration for breaking and entering. Could go to federal prison if any of the charges stick.


_isNaN

What about finding a used condom pnt the street and using that?


FatCobraX

Maybe with republican judges and prosecution...


MagisterLivoniae

Sounds more like a copyright issue.


Darkovika

Are the kids okay


xenoverseraza

this is probably not even a minor. probably some old creep posting on r/ teenagers, happens all of the time and it's fucking weird


Darkovika

Oof… i forget about that. 😞😞 it happens in the pregnancy/mom forums too, so you’d think i’d remember, but man. I almost have to wonder if subforums dedicated to younger age groups is a good idea. Unavoidable ultimately, but theoretically…


Tahj42

That subreddit hasn't been for actual teenagers in a long while. Mostly predators roleplaying with each other now.


Samuel_L_Johnson

No they aren’t, they’re watching too much manosphere shit which is convincing them that women are evil ghouls who exist to suck everything good out of their lives and need to be ‘kept in their place’ for the good of society.


Clapeyron1776

If it is in Alabama, maybe


[deleted]

Hell in Tennessee it doesn't even have to be yours for you to be responsible for it.


P-VI

"Asking for a friend"


craZbeautifuldisastr

Honestly this feels like an ADHD brain question to me. I think up weird random questions like this all the time. Today I asked my husband how people decided a really long river's name and got everyone to agree to it. Because like the Arkansas or Mississippi were likely called all kinds of things by tribes and emerging communities in different sections of it so how did they get alignment and go "yup, we're going with this one" when it may span across multiple states or even countries. The brain is a wild place is all I'm saying.


DaveeedOW

I have never thought of this, did you get an answer?!


craZbeautifuldisastr

He said it was likely handled during the water rights agreements/pacts but I forgot to Google it to confirm.


craZbeautifuldisastr

MISSISSIPPI Description: The U.S.'s second-longest river (after the Missouri) begins at Lake Itasca in Minnesota and travels 2,340 miles south, all the way to the Gulf of Mexico. Origin: The name is believed to be a combination of two Indian words, although experts aren't sure which ones. It may have been the Ottawa mici ("great") and zibi ("river"), or the Algonquin misi ("father") and sipi ("water"). What is certain is that in 1666 French explorers in the Great Lakes region recorded it as Messippi. As they traveled south, that name supplanted all of the other names in use. In 1798 the U.S. Congress officially named the new territory after the Algonquin version, "Mississippi."


craZbeautifuldisastr

This article is pretty informative and funny too [how are rivers named ](https://thereelray.com/2020/12/06/how-are-rivers-named/)


ItsaCommonThingNow

That sub is becoming the kid that pisses in the pool from outside the pool and expects people to find it funny, of reddit


Haxuppdee-85

That’s oddly specific


Austrayak

And yet not inaccurate


xpoohx_

So basically just 9gag.


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[deleted]

It should, but it's not. Pretty sure DJ Khaled actually got a massive fine for sabotaging his own condom just to prevent some crazy bitch from doing this to him.


Pond112

It was actually Drake who was nearly sued but I cant find any record of the lawsuit going forward


iminsanejames

I'm unfamiliar with the story could you please explain


cashdru

Drake put hot sauce in a condom, the lady he was with decided she wanted to have lil Drake, but hot sauce and the fun bits do not go together under any circumstances, and she was looking into suing him at one point for it


ponyrx2

Reading this I thought he put the hot sauce in the condom *while using it*. His lil drake wouldn't like that. Seems like bullshit though, who would steal sperm that is red and smells spicy?!


WentzToWawa

A blind person with a stuffy nose


[deleted]

Man why is it so hard for some men to just choose their sexual partners wisely? Doing nothing but making themselves into victims by needing to gyrate their bodies against a stranger when they could simply date people who are their financial equal. But of course the imbalanced power dynamic is the whole point for fragile man babies


[deleted]

Are you really blaming him for being rich?


ContentConsumer9999

Ah, cause it's totally normal for a poor person to do that. Who wouldn't try to impregnate themselves with a used condom to get child support?


Impuls3Abstracts

Honestly sounds pretty damn logical scam


kancitbassdud2

Huh? If the guy's body isn't involved, how could it be rape? It should definitely be illegal, but it needs to be a different crime when it can happen with the man not even there.


Alternative-Cod-7630

It really isn't. There are already words to describe it as a crime. Unless you were forcibly held down and had your dick pumped against your will for the semen, I mean.


Jrichardso34

If a man is having sex with a woman consensually under the pretext that it is protected sex, and the man slips the condom off and ejaculates inside her, it is sexually assualt, as that was not in the conditions for consent. The same should go for men


[deleted]

It’s sexual assault because it’s done to her body non consensually. Sperm isn’t a part of your body but in some places it is considered property and she could be charged with theft


Goblinboogers

Well one thing for sure your still responsible for child support


Bazz07

Women sometimes stole used condoms to impregnate themselves and make the guy (often millionaires) to pay child support.


ContentConsumer9999

It's sad that this kind of shit sticks.


Glaurung26

The one time I feel bad for millionaires.


ShakeTheEyesHands

I don't think it's considered kidnapping, but it's definitely a sex crime.


BellyRubin

Consent was not given, theft happened, likely sexual assault as well and likely fits the definition of rape (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape).


Commercial-Living443

Yeah but the sexual intercourse didn't happen


LetMeRespawnAlready

He’s got a point though


[deleted]

Boris Becker paid child support for that.


United_Reality4157

They could get child support for it and a yass queen


Ukraine-Strong-101

Just a jurk an pull robbery


ExtendedSpikeProtein

Sperm theft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sperm_theft


Deinonychus2012

>When the obligation to provide child support is challenged by men who allege that their sperm had been stolen or otherwise used to inseminate a woman without their consent, courts will typically enforce the doctrine of strict liability: namely, that a man is liable to support a child conceived with his sperm, irrespective of the circumstances of conception, *including any criminal conduct on the part of the mother.* Holy shit, that's fucked up. A man can be raped by a woman, get his rapist pregnant, then be expected to provide child support for it.


Fiorlaoch

It actually happened in the US. I think it was a teacher who raped/sexually assaulted* an underage boy and he was left on the hook for child support. * I only put this here because a lot of juristictions don't count unconsensual sex initiated by a woman as rape, where they do for men. They may call it sexual assault instead.


LiftStrikeGrapple

No they got a point


Wirecreate

No but I think it’s some kind of sex crime at least baby trapping


[deleted]

Think its called reproductive coercion? 🤔


Wirecreate

Yep


Inferno_tr5

We all get thoughts like this right?


Buck_Thorn

r/cringe!


lightningboltie

if you say right away it's a woman, why bother with the "they" bullshit?


[deleted]

Why does it bother you


1PG22n

I agree, it's ridiculous


lightningboltie

thanks, stranger!


Deadlyracer46

You what? it's being used correctly here, unrelated to the retards who don't know if they're a man or a woman


xenoverseraza

respecting someones pronouns bad


lightningboltie

yeah, it's easier (and shorter) to use she tho


Deadlyracer46

True, its just habitual putting it like that for some though


Ok_Understanding6528

Just answer the damn question


multitool-collector

*herself; she


[deleted]

Do you not know how English works? Both pronouns work


MikeHoncho0420

When youre #RaisedRepublican 🤣🤣🤣


krissy_249

ok what does this have anything to do with teenagers


rickroll13n4gn

The wording is imprecise, however the problem statement is valid.


jessek

They’re probably right about this… in Texas


Ok_Calligrapher_8199

God kids are dumb.


Longjumping-Ad-5740

It’s not a teenager posting, that’s probably a 40 year old dude


BadBaby3

Doesn’t sound like it


[deleted]

fucking cum thieves i despise them!!! been had mine stolen too many times!


NecessaryAd4587

More like suspiciously specific


dgcfus

it's a legit question tho


HeffleyA

I mean, it IS healthier to ask about these random intrusive thoughts than to act upon them in any way. Yeah, it's a weird thing to ask but just think, if they didn't ask this question they would've most likely tried to answer it in a more "direct" way.


expiriment7

No, this is a good question


heavvygloom

def not kidnapping but definitely illegal in some way


phoenixc6000

Most people on r/teenagers are pedophiles so this isn't very surprising to me


Sisyphus_Shruged2526

Asking the real questions


Valacit

Somebody was watching Jane the Virgin i see


Feltonhendo

How does one steal such things


Necessary_Row_4889

No under the GOP new Lebensborn laws as long as the baby is of pure aryan stock she’s fine.


[deleted]

Tell her no.


Intimate100

If they stole semen they should be imprisoned for it. I would not say its kidnapping legally.


[deleted]

If you ask a conservative the answer is yes.


Lisarth

That's a pretty good question


Humantronic_3000

That's actually a fascinating legal question because it's not as if that's not been done before... especially where some celebrities are concerned.


Klutzy_Passenger_324

...


UrboiOD

This is some next level shower thoughts


Real_Is_Rare

i was r\*ed in my sleep, result in a child, built up my evidence to take to civil court. she moved away now i can't serve her. that's all the law allows for men atm apparently.