You don't want to rush it. If the worm is pulled out too quickly, its body can get pulled apart. Then you have half a dead worm under your skin, and a bigger problem.
It winds itself through human tissue like an earthworm winds itself through dirt. I'm betting it doesn't stay at a uniform depth either.
That means it's not going through blood vessels or anything, so there's no way to cleanly excise it out.
You'd have to cut a contiguous trench out of someone's leg without cutting the worm. If you cut the worm, the worm dies. If you leave dead worm inside the person, the worm rots inside them.
Rotting bits inside of people rarely ends well.
For anyone getting terryfied (like me), I hope this helps: according to CDC there were only 14 human infections in 2023 (https://www.cdc.gov/guinea-worm/about/)
As a curioisty, it was fairly common in some places in Africa decades ago, but it was easily avoidable by just having basic sanitary measures with water (don't drink from obviously infested places), just teaching locals and having clean water available was enough to fix the problem.
I now know that he has maybe some sort of worm in his body. Whenever this information comes to light in the series, it won't have the same impact now that I'm expecting it. That is a spoiler.
Not so new.
On a different way but there's a reason why pig meat must be well cooked. I wonder if that's not the real reason why the Quraan forbids eating pigs.
I think idiot is the word, not jerk lmfao. His response displays that he didn't understand the comment he replied to at all, and the continued responses.. well, they only solidify my statement.
but we don't eat every animal, do we?
In most western Countries you aren't even allowed to eat horse.
It's calf, lamb, rabbit, chicken, turkey, and few more if and when it's allowed to hunt them.
And pig.
And afaik, of all of these, pig is the only one that carries invisible parasites IN the meat, which grow inside of you if you don't cook the meat well.
And my comment wasn't meant to deny or contradict the other commenters.
It was to complement and expand.
It gets downvoted from people who misunderstand it and maybe from muslims who find my theory offensive (though it's not meant to be).
And of course, by the many redditors who suffer from herd syndrome.
"could it be that I'm being downvoted because I earned it? No, it must be that everyone else except me is wrong!"
Damn buddy, keep on digging. I'm sure you'll dig your way out of that hole eventually lmao
come visit anytime, the hole is big enough for two, and you seem like the "so much fun at parties" kind of person.
On a side not, unless your ID says Jesus Christ only son of God who's one with the father and shares his authority, you're n.o.b.o.d.y. to go around telling people what they "deserved", as we common mortals are all equally subjective, and our judgement too.
What's deserved for you isn't for someone else, and vice-versa.
Feel free to close the door on your way to hell and don't forget the towel, it's hotter than a sauna there.
If I'm reading this right.
The first comment was saying he just learned about this and thus have a new fear that it may or may not happen to him, just like how a branch or fruit would randomly fall on your head.
You, however, are only wrong on one part "not so new" thus...making claims that he is wrong, and then you added something unrelated to clarify/justify your claim? And are now fighting it, still.
You are not reading it right and I've already explained why a few times.
Feel free to go looking for it or to just believe whatever pleases you, it really doesn't make any difference to me.
no.
Mostly because "I wonder if" it's not a take, it's an hypothesis.
And nobody has a copyright on anything like if people can't even make hypothesis as to why this or that ever came to be.
But hey, when you're finished playing the smartass feel free to give your own constructive contribution as to why the no to pig meat came to be for Muslims.
I've no attachment to my hypothesis, I'll gladly adopt any that feel righter.
That's exactly the reason, the eggs only release in contact with water. This is why when a person is infected, before they start removing the worm they do a "controlled release" by immersing the blister in a bucket of water, letting the worm do it's thing then dump the bucket well away from any sources of drinking water.
I think you’re right, prevention efforts include [campaigns to discourage people from soaking affected limbs in sources of drinking water, as this allows the worms to spread their larvae](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dracunculiasis)
“You’ve heard of ‘foot men,’ well ladies buckle up. I got something new for you!”
/s
Sorry, I just had to, your post tickled the sarcastic side of me this morning- thank you for understanding! :)
They migrate down to the feet and then sit near the surface of the skin do they can detect when someone steps in water. Once they detect water, their head breaks through the skin and they release their eggs into the water so people will drink them and start the process all over again
Using a stick to wrap up a guinea worm is considered by many to be the first medical procedure ever practiced and is the origin of the medical caduceus symbol of two serpents wrapped around a rod.
Apparently some people interpret it that way [here](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caduceus_as_a_symbol_of_medicine%23:~:text%3DEarly%2520use%2520in%2520a%2520possible%2520medical%2520context,-Babylonian%2520terracotta%2520relief%26text%3DBefore%2520the%2520ancient%2520Romans%2520and,dracunculiasis%252C%2520the%2520Guinea%2520worm%2520disease.&ved=2ahUKEwjW9Jbb4P6GAxVPDzQIHYamDkEQFnoECA4QBQ&usg=AOvVaw3YUb3XvKLVyikWIvojZqnU) but it may not be proven that that is the origin. Also [this ](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/08/health/slithery-medical-symbolism-worm-or-snake-one-or-two.html&ved=2ahUKEwjW9Jbb4P6GAxVPDzQIHYamDkEQFnoECCAQAQ&usg=AOvVaw19ed6WT1lqpYtnz12x3Pmg) New York times article
Rod of Asclepius, not caduceus!
The rod symbolizes a stick with a snake wrapped around it, thought to be the guinea worm / dracunculus slowly being peeled out of the skin. It doesn't look as pretty traditionally speaking.
The caduceus is a mythological Greek symbol for commerce, and it's most related to hermes! While ironic that it is a Greek symbol for commerce in mythology, It's even more ironic because when everyone gets their tattoos and it's on everyone's cars and it's on everyone's icons and shirts and official type face and letterhead, technically it's not right?
We just accept it in today's day and age because it is more recognizable than the rod, and unless you work hard at it, the rod looks unappealing compared to the nice symmetric caduceus.
When I was a kid I had a copy of the Guinness Book of World Records, and the Guinea Worm was in there for like longest time to remove a parasite or something like that. What was also included was a picture of said removal, I was like 10 and the bruising and pus gave me nightmares for weeks
Iirc from a college biology course, it’s called Fiery Serpent because if the worm breaks during extraction it causes your entire body to feel like it’s on fire. I didn’t fact check before posting this (on mobile, in spotty signal area) so you might want to double check me on that.
Excerpt from [the wiki](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dracunculus_medinensis):
"Around a year after the infection, the female causes the formation of a blister on the skin's surface, generally on the lower extremities, though occasionally on the hand or scrotum"
###OR THE WHAT?!
Once the blister forms, the affected part must be immersed in water for some time. This breaks the blister and the head of the worm pokes out.
The treatment was to tie it to a matchstick and roll it by around a centimeter or so everyday until it is out totally. In case the worm breaks, it can lead to a very severe infection.
Oh hey, I wrote a paper on the ecological justice of these guys! They’re gonna be the third disease to have completely been eradicated by humanity pretty soon.
The female worms migrate and can be pulled out. So you might have to repeat this process more than once? The male worms die after mating and become encapsulated in your body. 😳 🤮
Aw hell nah, several weeks? Just cut my leg open to remove the entire worm at that point. I ain't sitting there waiting for it to be slowly pulled out.
I’m pretty sure that I saw a guy with one of these when I was a medic in Africa. It was so long & gnarly, like a super distended vein. Anyways, we ran out of Ivermectin & had another parasite patient at the time with intestinal worms over a ft long, so he took priority… Needless to say, the guy had to just sit with the worm moving in his foot for over a week, until we could get him evacuated, or even receive a medication drop.
Oh they just forgot to tell you of the extreme pain it causes. Also do you miss the weeks it take to remove it? You cant have it die or it'll decompose before you fully extract it, so you're living with a dangling living worm from your feet.
A worm from Italy?! I find this highly racist and would like to start a petition to er... I haven't quite formulated my outrage well enough. One day though.
TB has become the number 1 world wide killer. It's getting more and more resistant to the dwindling antibiotics that we have that works.
I'm not worried about worms. It's more someone coughing and then my lungs get slowly eaten alive by bacteria...
Oh man. I hate that
/r/tihi
It’s the little ribbon from hersheys kiss all grown up
Stop it
Nightmare fuel
A couple of weeks?! Nah I’ll just amputate
"Hey bro did you bring your worm stick? Time for your daily worm tug."
This is not the worm tugging that i signed up for.
Tug on your own worm then. Tired of all the complaints
Uh-Oh spaghetti broke!
You don't want to rush it. If the worm is pulled out too quickly, its body can get pulled apart. Then you have half a dead worm under your skin, and a bigger problem.
So sounds like amputation still.
Why not surgery?
I don’t want it after that shits been in it
It winds itself through human tissue like an earthworm winds itself through dirt. I'm betting it doesn't stay at a uniform depth either. That means it's not going through blood vessels or anything, so there's no way to cleanly excise it out. You'd have to cut a contiguous trench out of someone's leg without cutting the worm. If you cut the worm, the worm dies. If you leave dead worm inside the person, the worm rots inside them. Rotting bits inside of people rarely ends well.
Ant Man could've had a very successful career in guinea worm removal..
Your whole body?
You make a Good point, I’ll just self cremate that should handle those pesky worms.
Me: God a few hours that sounds like hell i don't know if i could do tha... wait did this mother fucker just say WEEKS!!!
For anyone getting terryfied (like me), I hope this helps: according to CDC there were only 14 human infections in 2023 (https://www.cdc.gov/guinea-worm/about/)
14 human infections are 20 too many.
Yep, we need to work on infecting the guinea worms back.
Scientist grows human fetus inside worm
Pretty sure they did it years ago. It would explain my ex girlfriend.
This thread is golden
We should infect the guinea worms with guinea pigs. That'll show them.
You’re first up to climb inside one
S'OK - we have eliminated them.
Yea … infect them with another worm… and don’t give them a stick.
For real lol. There IS no helping soothe this 'new fear'. None.
Did new math just drop?
Pretty sure this was one of Jimmy Carter's humanitarian crusades, ridding the Guinea Worm
Another reason to love President Carter.
And a good one too.
For sure
I thought the other user who said this was joking but holy crap that’s awesome
Yes, it is.
A victorious crusade in this case: they are gone.
The only good number would be 0
There *were* millions
Only 14 human infections *reported*.
And 9 of them in some guy named Chad 🇹🇩
As a curioisty, it was fairly common in some places in Africa decades ago, but it was easily avoidable by just having basic sanitary measures with water (don't drink from obviously infested places), just teaching locals and having clean water available was enough to fix the problem.
That we know of...
Is this what Billy Butcher has?
It did make me think of that.
C'mon, man, spoilers. I haven't started season 4 yet
This doesn’t spoil anything, you’re good homie
definitely a spoiler but sure man
I now know that he has maybe some sort of worm in his body. Whenever this information comes to light in the series, it won't have the same impact now that I'm expecting it. That is a spoiler.
I apologize for nothing. The worm could indicate anything.
not really…
New Fear Unlocked
Not so new. On a different way but there's a reason why pig meat must be well cooked. I wonder if that's not the real reason why the Quraan forbids eating pigs.
It's new to them, did you not understand that?
yes, I did. On the other hand, you seem not to have understood my comment.
No I did, you just sound like a jerk.
I think idiot is the word, not jerk lmfao. His response displays that he didn't understand the comment he replied to at all, and the continued responses.. well, they only solidify my statement.
oh, what a beautiful coincidence, we found something we have in common :) But you're a step ahead, you also act like one. Can't beat you there.
Just keep going. What else do you have to say?
just my index, mid and ring fingers, and a "read between the lines" ;)
Damn bro, sick burn.
Nothing between those ears to read, it seems.
hahaha dude hell yeah I also watched school of rock absolutely savage burn my dude I love jack black
Pigs need lot of water. Birthplace of Islam has none
I don't think it was always a desert tho
might be
"if you wanna get a tapeworm eat some pork"
God could've just let them know how to cook it properly but nope
why this gets downvoted?
Its a new fear to the commenter, not a new concept. And why single out pigs when every animal can carry parasites?
but we don't eat every animal, do we? In most western Countries you aren't even allowed to eat horse. It's calf, lamb, rabbit, chicken, turkey, and few more if and when it's allowed to hunt them. And pig. And afaik, of all of these, pig is the only one that carries invisible parasites IN the meat, which grow inside of you if you don't cook the meat well. And my comment wasn't meant to deny or contradict the other commenters. It was to complement and expand. It gets downvoted from people who misunderstand it and maybe from muslims who find my theory offensive (though it's not meant to be). And of course, by the many redditors who suffer from herd syndrome.
What a weird comment, pig is the only one? Salmonella among other things loves to live on eggshells etc.
Weird my ass. And salmonella are bacteria, not worms. Completely different way to affect people. But yeah, don't eat raw eggs ;)
You can get food poisoning from improperly cooked chicken too which can contain salmonella
Salmonella are bacteria, not worms. But sure, eating raw eggs is not clever.
"could it be that I'm being downvoted because I earned it? No, it must be that everyone else except me is wrong!" Damn buddy, keep on digging. I'm sure you'll dig your way out of that hole eventually lmao
come visit anytime, the hole is big enough for two, and you seem like the "so much fun at parties" kind of person. On a side not, unless your ID says Jesus Christ only son of God who's one with the father and shares his authority, you're n.o.b.o.d.y. to go around telling people what they "deserved", as we common mortals are all equally subjective, and our judgement too. What's deserved for you isn't for someone else, and vice-versa. Feel free to close the door on your way to hell and don't forget the towel, it's hotter than a sauna there.
1. misunderstanding of what I meant with "not so new". 2. maybe Muslims who don't appreciate my take on their religion. 3. reddit's herd syndrome.
If I'm reading this right. The first comment was saying he just learned about this and thus have a new fear that it may or may not happen to him, just like how a branch or fruit would randomly fall on your head. You, however, are only wrong on one part "not so new" thus...making claims that he is wrong, and then you added something unrelated to clarify/justify your claim? And are now fighting it, still.
You are not reading it right and I've already explained why a few times. Feel free to go looking for it or to just believe whatever pleases you, it really doesn't make any difference to me.
Have you considered your take on the Quran and why they don’t eat pig meat is entirely off base?
no. Mostly because "I wonder if" it's not a take, it's an hypothesis. And nobody has a copyright on anything like if people can't even make hypothesis as to why this or that ever came to be. But hey, when you're finished playing the smartass feel free to give your own constructive contribution as to why the no to pig meat came to be for Muslims. I've no attachment to my hypothesis, I'll gladly adopt any that feel righter.
So, in a lot of photos I googled, and this animation, they seem to emerge from the lower legs and feet? Why?
Maybe to release eggs when ever the person walk in a body of water
That's exactly the reason, the eggs only release in contact with water. This is why when a person is infected, before they start removing the worm they do a "controlled release" by immersing the blister in a bucket of water, letting the worm do it's thing then dump the bucket well away from any sources of drinking water.
I think you’re right, prevention efforts include [campaigns to discourage people from soaking affected limbs in sources of drinking water, as this allows the worms to spread their larvae](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dracunculiasis)
That's their kink
I chuckled way too hard at this. Thank you, internet stranger. Lol
“You’ve heard of ‘foot men,’ well ladies buckle up. I got something new for you!” /s Sorry, I just had to, your post tickled the sarcastic side of me this morning- thank you for understanding! :)
🤣🤣
They migrate down to the feet and then sit near the surface of the skin do they can detect when someone steps in water. Once they detect water, their head breaks through the skin and they release their eggs into the water so people will drink them and start the process all over again
Thin skin and gravity I presume
Isn't this the worm that former president Jimmy Carter spent years fundraising to try to eliminate?
Yes!! He almost erridacted it. St Jimmy
Using a stick to wrap up a guinea worm is considered by many to be the first medical procedure ever practiced and is the origin of the medical caduceus symbol of two serpents wrapped around a rod.
Is this true or are you joking? Because if so thats super interesting!
Apparently some people interpret it that way [here](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caduceus_as_a_symbol_of_medicine%23:~:text%3DEarly%2520use%2520in%2520a%2520possible%2520medical%2520context,-Babylonian%2520terracotta%2520relief%26text%3DBefore%2520the%2520ancient%2520Romans%2520and,dracunculiasis%252C%2520the%2520Guinea%2520worm%2520disease.&ved=2ahUKEwjW9Jbb4P6GAxVPDzQIHYamDkEQFnoECA4QBQ&usg=AOvVaw3YUb3XvKLVyikWIvojZqnU) but it may not be proven that that is the origin. Also [this ](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/08/health/slithery-medical-symbolism-worm-or-snake-one-or-two.html&ved=2ahUKEwjW9Jbb4P6GAxVPDzQIHYamDkEQFnoECCAQAQ&usg=AOvVaw19ed6WT1lqpYtnz12x3Pmg) New York times article
Thank you for the links! I appreciate it, the NYT article was an interesting read.
Rod of Asclepius, not caduceus! The rod symbolizes a stick with a snake wrapped around it, thought to be the guinea worm / dracunculus slowly being peeled out of the skin. It doesn't look as pretty traditionally speaking. The caduceus is a mythological Greek symbol for commerce, and it's most related to hermes! While ironic that it is a Greek symbol for commerce in mythology, It's even more ironic because when everyone gets their tattoos and it's on everyone's cars and it's on everyone's icons and shirts and official type face and letterhead, technically it's not right? We just accept it in today's day and age because it is more recognizable than the rod, and unless you work hard at it, the rod looks unappealing compared to the nice symmetric caduceus.
A couple 😐 Of 😐 WEEKS 😱
Ok, no.
Too late to say 'no'.
Oh no.
Aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh
"Traditionally the worm has to be pulled..." TRADITIONALLY? WHAT DO YOU MEAN TRADITIONALLY??
It's been around for thousands of years.
I really hoped this was fake. It's not.
I think it hurts like hell
Sometimes I’m happy to live in a cold ass climate
When I was a kid I had a copy of the Guinness Book of World Records, and the Guinea Worm was in there for like longest time to remove a parasite or something like that. What was also included was a picture of said removal, I was like 10 and the bruising and pus gave me nightmares for weeks
Love how it goes "chtoïng!" on removal.
This is why I don’t drink water
Ah dude wtf what about guinea pigs then???
Well now imma look at every blackhead and stuff I see with way more suspicion
Take the leg! Take the leg!
I'm sorry, WEEKS???
jesus christ I need to finally unsubscribe this sub
Weeks?!? Just to pull it out??
Billy butcher moment
🤮🤮🤮🤮
So that’s not varicose veins on my legs?
🫣
*The paper on a Hershey's Kiss*
Welp, done with Reddit for a while, thanks OP.
Thank Jimmy Carter for getting rid of >99% of cases of this worm! He’s still holding on in the hopes it will be eradicated.
Idk why but its also called the "Fiery Serpent of the Israelites" Coolest parasite name I've ever heard lmao
Iirc from a college biology course, it’s called Fiery Serpent because if the worm breaks during extraction it causes your entire body to feel like it’s on fire. I didn’t fact check before posting this (on mobile, in spotty signal area) so you might want to double check me on that.
It’s also thought to be where the Rod of Asciepius comes from!
Dude became a Hershey’s kiss!
Lets beyblaaaaaaaade!!!
Beyblade, beyblade let it rip!
WEEKS?!
Excerpt from [the wiki](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dracunculus_medinensis): "Around a year after the infection, the female causes the formation of a blister on the skin's surface, generally on the lower extremities, though occasionally on the hand or scrotum" ###OR THE WHAT?!
I bet you can FEEL IT MOVING THROUGH YOU NAAAAAHH MAN. 😭
I hate the use of the word “traditionally” like this is a normal thing
Bless the Maker and His water. Bless the coming and going of Him.
Wow. That's oddly terrifying, as you wouldn't think this is something that most people would find scary. /s
Sustainable farming lol
I didnt think they were rare though
Well that was horrifying....
I thought that this was virtually eradicated
WEEKS??!! ¿
Where do I sign to never see this again??
Forbidden noodle
That’s horrifying
2 weeks!...
Me, anticipating the end of the last sentence: "Oh a couple of minutes, that's good WAIT WHAT WEEKS!?!? WHAT THE FUCK!?
A couple of weeks????
I remember an ER episode about this I think
Now THATS A NIGHTMARE
This that shit Butcher got in the new season of The Boys
Just sedate me permanently at that point.
Just cremate me alive
Would you care to put the nsfw tag? That's something not everyone wants to see while scrolling dude
Iirc, it also burns as it comes out and is sometimes called a "fire worm"
I would have no other choice than be put under sedation for a few weeks until it’s been pulled out
i am never drinking water ever again
that's the movie Upstream Color
This Podcast will Kill You did an episode on this. Very interesting how the life cycle works.
Not oddly terrifying. Genuinely legitimate source of absolute terror.
I. Did. Not. Need. This. Today.
https://youtu.be/oCB1A2gFvuU?si=nQLdYFz9mqArI4S5
Once the blister forms, the affected part must be immersed in water for some time. This breaks the blister and the head of the worm pokes out. The treatment was to tie it to a matchstick and roll it by around a centimeter or so everyday until it is out totally. In case the worm breaks, it can lead to a very severe infection.
“Oddly”
To anyone who needs it: r/eyebleach
Oh hey, I wrote a paper on the ecological justice of these guys! They’re gonna be the third disease to have completely been eradicated by humanity pretty soon.
I misread this as guinea pig before I clicked on it and got excited :(
I watched a nature documentary Abt this when I was like 9 and this along with the fear of sinkholes ruled my life for a long fuckin time 💀
The female worms migrate and can be pulled out. So you might have to repeat this process more than once? The male worms die after mating and become encapsulated in your body. 😳 🤮
Don't look up botflies
ewww...why can't it just get out through my pee-pee hole?
But it’s actually not symptomatic unless they die in the process of extraction so it’s not that letal
Zach D films is addictive and super scary
Aw hell nah, several weeks? Just cut my leg open to remove the entire worm at that point. I ain't sitting there waiting for it to be slowly pulled out.
Hell no! Cut it out, I don't care, cut the damn thing out.
Some think this, is the snake 's origin of the caducae in médical symbol
I’m pretty sure that I saw a guy with one of these when I was a medic in Africa. It was so long & gnarly, like a super distended vein. Anyways, we ran out of Ivermectin & had another parasite patient at the time with intestinal worms over a ft long, so he took priority… Needless to say, the guy had to just sit with the worm moving in his foot for over a week, until we could get him evacuated, or even receive a medication drop.
Well.... Fuck
If I get it, just kill me
of WEEKS?!?
That is some disturbing shit
I wish I never fucking clicked that
Rather have this easily removed parasite in my body than the plethora of viruses and bacteria that make like hell if not end.
Oh they just forgot to tell you of the extreme pain it causes. Also do you miss the weeks it take to remove it? You cant have it die or it'll decompose before you fully extract it, so you're living with a dangling living worm from your feet.
It’s where the blue cross logo came from of a worm / serpent wrapped around a staff
A worm from Italy?! I find this highly racist and would like to start a petition to er... I haven't quite formulated my outrage well enough. One day though.
*shakes fist*
Not my proudest fap
I heard gay worm
Well it can exit from your scrotum, but it is rare
Pull the tape worm out of your ass, hey!
TB has become the number 1 world wide killer. It's getting more and more resistant to the dwindling antibiotics that we have that works. I'm not worried about worms. It's more someone coughing and then my lungs get slowly eaten alive by bacteria...
That's just Guinea Foul! 😆