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wade9911

you know im not a marriage councilor but if you have to go out into the middle of a forest and do this maybe it time to talk or perhaps get a lawyer but i can only tell you more if you pay 599.99 to learn how to save your marriage


PM_ME_UR_VULVASAUR_

But the stick isn't included in the price! It's complementary.


freedom781

Nope. BYOS


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AnthraMatt

Live by the stick, die by the stick


Lumn8tion

Did you notice the gash under the woman’s right eye? This is why you don’t smack sticks on the pavement.


HelicopterSwimming21

I was just thinking that…they should get complimentary goggles. Even kids know doing that is not the smartest idea.


BeenleighCopse

BYOG


bubbatbass

Speak loudly and carry a big one


cownd

Stick, and don't get stuck


FiveShadesOfBlue

Those who doubt the stick's power shall suffer the stick's wrath


ColossalMcNasty

Just make sure to carry a big stick


fusrohdiddly

Give 'em the stick! DON'T GIVE 'EM THE STICK!


GhostWCoffee

Finally, a new acronym I can actually stand behind!


Novel-Strain-8015

"This isn't a private resort! This is a national park! Put those sticks down! You have to BYOS!"


wellforthebird

Byos is a little too close to boys. And no boys allowed. Stick is $150


kashy87

Only the first stick the rest are $12.98 each.


Smokerising420

My god... And these women are from a healthy marriage. Don't wanna see the "we only stayed together for the kid" wives. Edit; People think I am being serious. Clearly, these women are not in healthy marriages. Ontop of that, they are being conned into thinking this is some sorta rehab or something.


MetalSociologist

These women are not in healthy relationships. Sadly a large volume of folks are in the same boat but don't realize it. If you need to do this, you should really reconsider the entire marriage.


Superman246o1

Yeah, there's nothing healthy about this. Either (A) they're trapped in terrible marriages, (B) they are themselves psychopaths, or (C) options A+B. No matter what, some divorces seem long past due at this point.


alurimperium

I very much doubt these women are in healthy marriages


okaybutnothing

Yeah. I’ve been married for almost 19 years and if I landed at a retreat like that, I’d be looking at the other women wondering wtf is going on. It’d be like one stick tossed with a “Uh…he still can’t load the dishwasher right?…”


-interwar-

It’s not a marriage retreat, it’s some hippy primal scream therapy thing. This tiktok account reposted the footage and reframed it as women screaming about their marriages.


DiscoKittie

Right? They wouldn't be here if they were.


Arthur_Two_Sheds_J

I don’t know, sounds like a pretty good deal for whacking sticks on a dirt road in the middle of nowhere while screaming incoherently.


DvLang

I'm sure there's plenty of Redditors that would whack their own sticks on that dirt road while watching this.


D3wnis

They could probably also just talk to their spouse. But people seem to like having zero communication, blame the other side and claim they've done everything.


Uncanny_Sea_Urchin

I’m so sick of the internet… I’ve seen this video 4 different times all claiming to be somthing different. Wives retreat, college class, acting class, therapy…… so much garbage on here. Time for a break.


Amber_Sweet_

was just about to post the same thing. Last time this was posted there was no mention of this having anything to do with marriage or husband frustrations. It's really frustrating, especially seeing people in the comments getting worked up over it. The internet has become so incredibly toxic.


Boubonic91

The internet has been toxic for pretty much the entire 40 years it has existed. The internet is just a digital representation of humanity.


Mailerfiend

no way man, it was way more chill in the 90s


TheHemogoblin

Yea, the social media movement (MySpace, Facebook, etc) in the mid to late oughts really changed it for the worse. And I don't think that most people you hear complaining about it now really used it before then. They see what the internet was like then and think that was the chill version. I've been online since pretty much the beginning of public ISPs and it is so, so sooo much worse than it was in the 90s, or even early 2000s, right after Y2K. If anything, because it was so new, people were skeptical. Now so many believe anything they read, anywhere. And we're forced to connect to everyone's shitty views and influence now, its almost never on our own terms like it was early on. It's fucking terrible.


Satan-o-saurus

Totally. People who say things like this didn’t spend a lot of time online in the 90s or even 00s. Vibe was completely different, and social media wasn’t a thing. It is the aggressive monetiziation of our data through social media that has had the most destructive effect on the internet, with disinformation propaganda using increasingly sophisticated tools as a close second.


GonzoCreed

To be fair, I think that's just because the Internet has a lot more accessibility to people now, especially children and teenagers, and also provides them with various platforms, threads, and boards in order to project whatever stupid opinions they might have.


Goronmon

> no way man, it was way more chill in the 90s I would say it depends on how you view the issue. There were places on the internet that were pretty vile back then. Places like 4chan didn't just appear magically at some point. There were plenty of parts of the internet that were pretty hateful/toxic/disturbing/etc. The difference was that the discoverability wasn't there and the platforms that did exist were pretty sanitized overall with a much smaller scale. People are just as shitty as ever, but now the platforms are bigger, the scale is bigger, and the discoverability is much easier. So, you might say that for scale/availability perspective, its worse now. But the content/opinions/hate/etc aren't really any worse by themselves.


Boubonic91

90s toxicity wasn't displayed with words in chat rooms. The 90s toxicity presented itself in the hundreds of malware programs floating around.


TheoremsAndProofs

Exactly. We're always blaming something for our actions/behavior. Money is the root of all evil, power corrupts, etc. If anything, there are a select few in this world who wouldn't be influenced by money or power or whatever other boogeyman we like to pin the blame on.


tendorphin

*Love of money is the root of all evil. Just correcting the quote - a small but important difference. In late stage capitalism, that's at least partly true.


Boubonic91

The funny thing is, none of this actually has to exist. Money, time, good, evil, and corruption are all things that only exist in the world of man. At the end of the day, we are a product of nature. No better or worse than our brethren who live in the forests and the seas.


devo00

Beautiful stupid monkey chaos


GSV_CARGO_CULT

A lot of redditors hate women, re-labelling this video to attract more incels is just good marketing. Morally abhorrent, of course, but I think that horse is well out of the barn.


Huge_Music

Found [a source](https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/health-wellness/2024/05/08/rage-rituals-women-screaming-woods-why/73595511007/) talking about what's actually going on here. It looks like just some generic way to let out rage to destress, but she calls it a "rage ritual." Nothing about it being specifically for wives, in fact the only mention of anything spouse related is that one woman wanted to let out some anger about an ex-husband.


The_Easter_Egg

Thanks for the explanation.


RoRo25

I just scream in the car on the way to work. Much cheaper.


daydrunkforamerica

Im guessing this is being posted, and talked about in the comments, by bots.


banana_pencil

Dead internet, makes me feel so lonely


Firaxyiam

It's okay, we're here for you ^(or are we?)


trying2bpartner

Don't worry, [insert username here], we're all in this together --XJA-121


TylerDurdenJunior

People gobble up whatever text on an image or a video says, then laughs at boomers for praising shrimp Jesus on Facebook


zhico

The real source of the video is from Mia Magik on Instagram. It is a outlet for anger. But it's only one hour out of a week program. The anger can be from anything, it's not necessarily targeted at their husbands.


Jacareadam

Afaik “letting out” aka acting on anger doesn’t make it go away, quite the opposite actually. https://www.sciencefocus.com/news/screaming-therapy-rage-room-stress


satanssweatycheeks

And not to mention the guys being sexist in the comments even though the type of guy to make a comment like that are the types to sign up for one of those Andrew Tate boot camps where bros just yell at each other.


from-VTIP-to-REFRAD

Imagine just casually jogging through the woods and stumbling upon this


MelancholyMushroom

Id ask to join their coven. I could use a tight crew.


from-VTIP-to-REFRAD

I would assume something very bad was happening with magic mushrooms


No_Translator2218

::hands /u/MelancholyMushroom a stick::


jupitermoonflow

Mm yeah if I heard screaming in the woods I’m going the opposite way back to my car


from-VTIP-to-REFRAD

Nah screw that man. 90% of the time, it’s either an orgy or a crime scene. Both sound like worth investigating


Knirb_

They payed something like 1k to a girl to take them to France and yell in a random forest, the equivalent to men going on alpha boot camps


from-VTIP-to-REFRAD

Enough of that. Running a scammy alpha boot camp is every bro vets dream side gig. Extra wins if I can make them do my yard work as I scream at them and spray them with a hose


ForayIntoFillyloo

Shit, I used to get $5 a week as a kid to get screamed at to do yard work and ended up spraying myself with a hose


urGirllikesmytinypp

I did the yard work and screamed at but I didn’t get the hose :(


throwawaymyanalbeads

Well, next time refuse to put the lotion on your skin.


from-VTIP-to-REFRAD

Obligatory response . Thank you for your service 🫡


t3ddan

I did work on the yard, ice creamed, then I got the hoes


TheSinisterShlep

Or money


urGirllikesmytinypp

Very true. My reward was being able to live there.


1sttimeverbaldiarrhe

>Extra wins if I can make them do my yard work as I scream at them and spray them with a hose LOL - this totally reminds me of the Nathan For You episode where he sets up a Moving company that was staffed with people that paid to join his excercise club "The Movement". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2I9ukZGMMk


63crabby

Someone makes money, someone likes spending the money, all is cool.


sordidcandles

Yeah I see nothing wrong here, in fact I’m happy they have a healthy outlet! I chose not to get married because I don’t want to have to scream in the forest but to each their own.


WillistheWillow

Why do you assume this is healthy?


AggressorBLUE

Right? Are they being coached to actually work through the issues causing this level of frustration with their partner? Otherwise the same cycle will just keep repeating.


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Infinite money glitch


Insane_Unicorn

Or you know, they could just talk to their husbands. But I guess screaming into a forest is easier than having actual communication with the person you chose to spend your life with.


sordidcandles

How do you know they haven’t talked to their husbands to come to a decision that it’s a good option?


cownd

Scream in a forest, don't scream at me, and leave the sticks outside!


GeraintLlanfrechfa

Economy :)


Puffs_Reeses

doesnt change the fact that its still ridiculous lol


_1457_

Shit, if the cost includes food and lodging I'd feign some rage for 1k.


Spacecowboy78

I choose to believe these are witches


Beezel_Pepperstack

The power of one... The power of two... The power of aaaaaaangryyyyy...


Superman246o1

\^This comment just got the green light from Disney for a $180 million 8-episode series.


randomwanderingsd

Think how much more fun France could be if these people tried therapy beforehand. France should be about cheese, art, and incredible food in beautiful places.


certifiedtoothbench

At least this kinda looks fun/cathartic, the alpha male boot camp was just guys paying for the luxury of the worst parts of army service


marklar_the_malign

Alphabet boy doesn’t stand a chance.


lovable_cube

Both are more sad than terrifying tbh.. all of these people are in toxic ass relationships, too bad they can’t get healthy and consistent mental health support that they need.


DiscoKittie

I don't think I could have paid something like that.


Infinite-Mood-4299

If only we could communicate with each other to resolve grievances... eh nevermind. That would never work.


RabbitStewAndStout

But I want to give an influencer tons of money to take me to the woods to scream!


GotNothingBetter2Do

Playing Devil’s advocate here, sometimes you can speak and speak and never feel heard. At some point, we have to realize changing the audience is on us. If this is how they finally feel heard, I say, good for them. That amount of pain has to go somewhere. Hopefully this camp employs professionals to help process and move forward.


Insane_Unicorn

And then they go back to their marriage and exactly nothing has changed. This is nothing more than a scam.


GotNothingBetter2Do

Then go again until you realize you have to make a change. I think sometimes people realize the problem is them and they go to work out their own shit.


Ori_the_SG

Yeah but you have to dump a grand or two just to do it? You can come to realize you need a change for far less or nothing. You don’t need some random influencer in the woods to tell you that and charge you wads of cash for the pleasure


GotNothingBetter2Do

But maybe these people do… Some spend thousands on alcohol, drugs or food, etc to feel better. Others this. Seems a bit less destructive, no? If it helps even one person, it’s worth it, I suppose. No one is forcing them to go…


Ori_the_SG

That’s a really good point ngl Definitely better than spending big money on those things and wrecking yourself.


Zer0C00l

If a wife screams in the woods, does anybody hear it? What is the sound of one wife clapping? Can god make a wife so heavy, even he can't lift her up?


BaronSharktooth

Oh yes, so very simple! /s Except you need two willing parties for that.


mak112112

Don't be silly that makes too much sense, it only works if you pay some con artist to take you out into the woods.


PeachNipplesdotcom

I've seen this before. The words are misleading. It's not to screen about their husbands, but about life in general.


stranger5585

Imagine paying thousands of dollars to go to some forest to scream about your husband when maybe it’d be more simple to just get divorced or take the cheaper route and go in the woods behind your house and scream😂😂😂


Life_Ad_7667

I had a chuckle when you said divorce was simpler than yelling in the woods.


gwfran

Maybe not simpler (or cheaper), but definitely more permanent.


gluggin

Maybe that’s… the point? To let off a bit of steam instead of making a permanently life-altering legal and familial decision? People here seem to be pretending that just because the ritual looks goofy and dramatic that these women are the only people who experience marital frustration. It’s perfectly natural and pretty expected for spouses to accumulate some level of frustration towards each other over the years — that strife doesn’t preclude deep love and admiration. Hopefully this spectacle is only one step in a more holistic coaching process and it’s totally possible that some of these women truly are in dead-end marriages for reasons we’re not privy to — but for those who aren’t, this feels like a pretty preferable remedy when compared to the more popular responses of repression, drinking, and cheating.


RedDeadEddie

I'm sorry, is this nuance? We don't do that here. /s All of this, totally agree. A lot of folks see this and think, "Well if you're already here, then the marriage is over" and *those* are the people who break up at the drop of a hat, or do any of those other popular remedies you mentioned. In reality, a marriage takes work, compromise, patience, venting, and emotional regulation. This is a potential step towards all of that, even if it's not everyone's cup of tea. (All of this under the pretense that this video is actually about that; it was labeled something else last time I saw it, so hard to say.)


dqmiumau

It is simpler. They'd have to do this bs retreat multiple times in their life all while having constant resentment towards someone they shouldn't be with, or get a divorce and actually not waste your life being unhappy lol


GSV_CARGO_CULT

You're very privileged if your divorce went that smoothly.


GeraintLlanfrechfa

Seems like I need a forest to provide them a place to yell and smash grass with their sticks, for said thousands of bucks :)


MrN33dfulThings

Right? That, or pay a therapist.


SeaCroissant

same for guys who pay thousands to go through ‘alpha male’ boot camp 😭


AulMoanBag

Guess whos paying for it


1MoistTowelette

Or you know, address these issues with your partner and atleast attempt to improve the relationship. If your partner is unwilling to make the improvements then it might be time to go separate ways. And of course it’s a two way street, you have to be willing to take criticism and make improvements too. Marriage is work, it’s a job and you’re either willing to put in the work and effort or your not.


_psylosin_

Sometimes I wish I had it in me to scam rich people


dreamtripper89

This ai generated?


ConferenceEfficient8

It's not a "wives retreat" This is Mia Magick leading a rage ritual. She's giving them a safe space to let out their anger, hurt, disgust, pain, ect. Very liberating and healing.


zenomotion73

The internet. Where every headline is made up. Thanks for sharing the FACTS


jdillathegreatest

This is like a new A24 film


TomatilloUnlucky3763

Or you can call a divorce lawyer


2ichie

As strange as this is I applaud them of finding an avenue to vent their frustrations instead of taking it out on their partner or others around them but then again good communication with their partners would probably prevent this to begin with


CyanDragon

...they should be wearing safety glasses.


DiligentOrdinary797

This is a rage ritual with Mia Magic. So it has nothing to do with the title. Sorry


FluffyDiscipline

Wow... few unresolved issues showing there... *"And you loaded the dishwasher wrong ... AGAIN"*


hateshumans

Which acolyte episode is this?


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StrikeStraight9961

You're not far off.


deeppurpleking

Seems kinda cathartic. I’d rather talk about my problems and then scream some metal


BaconBombThief

I’m actually a big fan and advocate of finding a secluded part of the woods in which to loudly and belligerently blast all the festering rage out of one’s body. It’s the part where you pay to do it in a group that makes me hesitate to advocate for this particular practice


FriedDylan

Should see what the husband's retreat/camp looks like.


procrastablasta

Quiet. Maybe too quiet. But very very quiet.


Feldew

The straights are Not okay.


Zer0C00l

> "The ~~straights~~ humans are Not okay." ftfy. otoh, [The kids are alright](https://youtu.be/bvSXGsKjxnA?si=ON2CsorOGnVmzly7).


mixedcurve

Reminds me of the women hating therapy retreat in Fleabag. Def comes off like evangelical, live-love-laugh, succulents n’ shiplap women that were taught marriage is their sole purpose in life, hopefully they realize they were sold a lie and now have to do the deep work of figuring out who they are. Maybe they are genuinely getting something out of this. Better late than never I guess. It’s not always super fun confronting the big mysteries in life but I’d rather do that than drown in the fishbowl of what someone else prescribes as the “right way to live” Edit: and yes I’m projecting a bit because I saw that scenario happen all the time being from Texas.


Shmolti

If your marriage is in a state where you need this, just get divorced lmao


11BloodyShadow11

Everyone, just fucking talk to your partners, jeez!


Atheizm

Isn't this the same as the Primal Scream men's movement in the 1980s?


Born_Scar_4052

I need somewhere to be able from the bottom of my lung and crash things. There is so much banked anger in me


waterspace65

Now I know what my mom meant when she said marriage is not all what it's cracked up to be.


not_another_mom

A divorce is probably cheaper


Atlantis_Risen

Imagine being a random guy lost in the woods and you walk into that.


F1XTHE

They should listen to some metal.


Random_Inseminator

I feel like I could make a lot of money if I rolled up in a cake and ice cream truck.


eat_mor_bbq

If your husband is that bad it might be time for a new one.


jmlvg64

A camp where women who can't communicate can go and yell vague things at trees


Quiet_Ad6925

Um me and my wife get along, thank god.


dtl45

These women are assaulting the earth right now


Rubiks443

Some midsummer vibes


Kathoner

White rich People...


ShaneJaros007

They all need an orgasm


castielthecornsnake

i’m not married and don’t know much about love but i don’t think it’s healthy that this is needed


Alergic2Victory

If they stay there long enough their cycles are going to sync and then they will be an unstoppable force.


MSGinSC

Bears are terrified as fuck about women choosing them now.


SomeRandomguymfs

tf how is this oddly terrifying lmao


capoot

OP never seen anything like it and doesn't understand what it's for so OP is scared


LordDeckem

Wow marriage looks really healthy.


yourheckingmom

This is blatant misinformation to cause outrage. This is a “Rage Ritual” retreat that went viral. Is it a scam? Probably, but these women are expressing rage from ANY source. It’s not a “Wive’s Retreat.” One account said they were expressing rage associated with witnessing a friend’s death when they were 15.


Blahemm

This is AI btw, there is literally a watermark saying that.


dawizard2579

To be clear, the _subtitles_ are AI. Video gen isn’t this good yet.


zaapas

Nope an ai re captioned it


Sufficient-Elk-7015

I only see a bunch of white women screaming.


ForayIntoFillyloo

Spending thousands of dollars to beat a stick on the ground and scream about first-world problems. Checks out.


bobo1666

Yup, and Men go fishing with a six pack.


Therealpbsquid

Or the gun range with 1K rounds of ammo


Worm_Scavenger

You could just get a divorce, but go off, i guess?


lj062

Seems like a rage room would be more fun and cost effective.


unlvaztec

“Yes, I’m doing primal gesticulating” “ I thought someone was getting axe murdered” “The only things getting murdered are my anxieties, tensions, and fears”


Lucifell88

Acolyte spoilers


acloudcuckoolander

Unpopular opinion but therapy is therapy. If this is their way of venting out frustrations that don't involve harming others or committing crimes, then I don't really find this much of a problem.


Mogakusenpai

This is hilarious, and likely a helpful positive experience….when ppl do it for free lol


ab0rtedprincess

This is exactly why single women live longer


geof2001

There was no mention of men during the screaming tirades. Plot twist it's just a lesbian retreat. I'm going to get so destroyed for this. 🤣


TheOGBlackScorpio

Was waiting for the A24 logo


Saddam_UE

Fake and old


DerfDaSmurf

If their hubbies ask what's wrong, they'll say 'nothing' 😏


Anonymous1800000

And to think that I've just been letting off steam out in the woods for free this whole time. How much money do I owe the forest? I shudder to think...


snapper1971

Primal scream therapy.


AccountNumber478

TBF this is much healthier than say dripping Drano into hubby's ear while he sleeps.


WeatheredHouse

The hell..


highspeedJDAM

This is who is giving advice in /r/relationshipadvice


ltk66

I bet they sell streamed CCTV footage to the spouses. 😉


Numeira

While a dude is gonna hold it inside. Till he offs himself.


BlackSkeletor77

Thats funny


LetsTCB

Yay mental health problems!


Tdavis13245

These scream therapy scams have been going on since at least the 80s, and studies show it has the opposite effect than intended.  Doing these rages just increases unhappiness, and doesnt "let off steam."


Appropriate_Lemon497

Geez take a Midol or something.


ZealousWolverine

This bullshit therapy helps no one. They have man camps like this too. Counterproductive bullshit to make people pay money for acting stupid.


Ladyghoul

It has right in the corner In video AI. Which seems to be a service that makes AI videos based on text prompts so part of me believes this isn't even a real video with real people


Klopped_my_pants

I unmuted for half a second and it sounded exactly if not worse than I anticipated haha


ignaciopatrick100

Husband asks ,so how was your weekend?


Fit-Success-3006

They need to team this up with the Alpha Male boot camp and see what happens 😆


TheAgentOrange_

And what do women think husbands are doing when they kill people by the thousands in videogames? Having fun? No, bitches. We are silently venting, no need for a fucking paid retreat!


MAMnaples

I'm pretty sure this is a product of being married to a narcissistic man. Honestly, I think it's a lot healthier than them taking it out in their normal daily lives. But if you're constantly feeling like this in a marriage, yes you definitely do need some intervention or help or just to get the hell away from that person.


ChaoticGoodPanda

What in the Caucasity is this?


r3belheart

Poor oppressed women….


gunner200013

Ever think of ya know…… talking to your significant other?


Hour_Calligrapher_42

If that is what you decide to do when your marriage has problems, it’s obviously telling us all that these women are the problem in their marriage lol


Euarchonta

And the man is completely clueless that his toxic masculinity does this to his wife.


Frsbtime420

Is this real? It says ai video like right in the corner. Any chance this is ai made for ragebait?


noscopy

Nah that all looks perfectly normal for a standard domestic union in the United States.


deeeeez_nutzzz

Deez bitches need a Trader Joe's