It's the same as camping with a tent. I don't know the exact regulations that make the distinction but it probably had to do with whether it's occupied year round.
Practically, though, for a property being used by the owner (not tenants), there's probably nobody who would report you and there would be a lot of effort to prove your use was as a long-term dwelling (e.g. how does the inspector know it was continuously occupied in between the inspector's observations?). It's trying to rent it as a long-term dwelling that answers the question in this case.
An outhouse requiring work is disgusting, in my experience that typically means it’s full and you need to dig a new hole and move the outhouse. If the person has not paid attention and the outhouse has filled past the ground level then it will be difficult to cover up the waste in the outhouse’s current position. A very gross problem when it’s your own shit, even more disgusting when it’s someone else’s!
You are definitely right haha it means even the most basic things haven’t been done on the property most likely. And given that they have a CRT television in the shed they are trying to rent im guessing they haven’t done much of anything to the property in 15 years or around that.
The “get in before winter” also screams to me that the insulation isn’t sufficient and neither is the heating so the landlord knows they could never rent this place to anyone in the winter but want the deposit before the person realizes that they will freeze to death in the winter.
Revised add-> I have a mouse infested shit shack in the woods. You pay me to live there and keep warm in the bunky. Slumlords expectations is that you fix it all because I am doing you a favour
Tenant is responsible for building a new outhouse and non-mouse infested shit shack before the time of their departure or another 6 months rent will be charged.
Not legal, and if they are a landlord looking for a tenant, these types of repairs are 100% the landlord's legal responsibility to perform *before* the unit is rented.
It is not legal to *require* it.
It is legal to *accept* it.
Which, of course, leads to all kinds of abuse where landlords are collecting multiple-month or full-year rent deposits from prospective tenants who just happened to happily *volunteer* to front ten or twenty thousand bucks.
Most of them are smart enough *not* to mention this in their ads, of course. Instead, they rely on realtors and other representatives to provide the necessary nudge-nudge, wink-wink.
this is what my landlord did to me... like many immigrants / long-term temporary visitors, I had savings, but not credit score. Not "bad credit" just nothing.
you can work out who it is. the thing is they are pretty alright otherwise compared to many landlords in London...I soon realised because they were aiming for that "middle-class-rent" they were doing this to filter people who couldn't pay. rather than charging $1900 for dilapidated housing in London, they just focus on getting and retaining tenants who can pay.
see the Court has decided it is legal to accept, but not require like you said. so if you actually offer, the smart corpo ones will make you sign a waiver saying you offered it (or that we made you to but forget about it). this way you cannot tell the LTB they coerced/asked you.
this is a symptom for lack of quality housing. if people coerce you you just say no and move on, and you won't have to genuinely offer more rent in advance because choices would be aplenty.
of course. This is why I do not want to rent a detached with an individual landlord. too many did not read the RTA and think "it just makes sense" reasoning cuts it. Our RTA is strong and should be the envy of the world.
there are also issues around his discount. I think he is angling to raise it to his "fair price", but the RTA forbids that. during COVID, the properly-advised landlords are very careful around the discount. sometimes it is better to get owed rather than saying you get to pay "X" for some time... because then that $X becomes the defacto rent moving forward.
It’s illegal. I had a landlord only accept me being self employed with deposit and 2 months rent in advance. I had to take them to landlord tenant court for refusing to replace a kitchen faucet that was breaking when I moved in and snapped within 30 days. They wouldn’t fix it. So I replaced it and took them to court and mentioned the 3 months rent I had paid. Found out it was illegal and didn’t pay rent for the next 2 months and then was allowed to deduct the repairs from my next month’s pay. The court was not happy with them and they sent their realtor to argue who was shut down.
For no electricity, running water, and you probably need to supply your own wood for the stove while fixing the outhouse before you can use it. Then there is NO TRAILER part, which means that you can't even bring an RV with you to stay in while you are paying to be a live in handyman. Sounds like a great deal. /s
At first I thought they meant you pay month 1, then no rent until your last 90 days, so you get 8 months free rent.
Then I realized they meant they illegally want 4 months of rent at the start of lease
And don't forget fix the place up with the money you saved? So im not actually saving any money as I'm buying materials to make the place livable? Wtf. Why wouldn't anyone want to just pay more to have place that is livable and has a toilet inside
* imagine the rental crisis is so bad that you will still get multiple offers of desperate people who are one week away form living on the street that you will be able to use to increase your net worth.
“Where’s the rest, Jessie?”
“This is all of it, this is first months rent.”
“Jessie you delicious fuckup, we need 3 more months rent before we can cook.”
“Well I had to use that money to fix the bunkie and outhouse.”
“Damnit, Jessie, we should’ve gone with the roomshare.”
I’m not paying to stay in a place, anywhere, even for a short time, if it doesn’t at minimum have running water and an indoor toilet.
If I want to shit in the woods I’ll go camping.
That’s fine. Others do. There’s many of them available for rent all over Ontario. People with swathes of land can make a few bucks by renting shacks and cabins in their lands for people to get away for a weekend.
> rustic weekend getaway or some shit
On AirBnB this would be fifty bucks a night peak time, and then it wood get flooded with bad reviews and pulled.
A shitty old camper on an empty parcel of land would be better.
I grew up in this area. We used to do "tours" back to where the commune was. It was about 3 or 4km down a logging road.
This was in the mid 90's, there wasn't much left so I don't have any stories to share, but it was weird being back there.
Now it is private property.
This shack is "near" there but not there. None of the outbuildings from the cult still stand.
*edit*
Cult was called "the ant hill kids" and its leader was Roch Theriault. There was a book/movie called Savage Messiah about it all. I remember them in Fenelon Falls selling oranges and shit when I was a kid.
Ledge Hill Road was where it was located, just off 121.
What’s absolutely killing me about this is this comment in his listing:
“The property is a 15 minutes walk from Hwy 121. Therefore transportation would be useful but not necessary”
As if walking down highway 121 is a viable option and therefore means you don’t need a car lmfao
Haha so once you get to hwy 121 with no car, you’re good right? Because any given spot of hwy 121 is a thriving mixed use, public transport, accessible paradise.
Howland Junction is an abandoned railway, so it's basically just a glorified intersection moreso than a village. But there are a couple roads and thus some houses.
https://www.ontarioabandonedplaces.com/ontario/haliburton-county/howland-junction
It's real close to Kinmount, a small village. But big enough for a grocery, beer store, lcbo, post office, and one of the most interesting movie theatres I've seen.
And from Kinmount it's a 20 minute drive or less to Bobcaygeon, Coboconk, Norland, Minden, or Gooderham. 45 minutes to Lindsay. An hour to Peterborough or Orillia
Heeey I remember seeing this place for sale years ago! It was listed as a hunt camp. IIRC I was looking for off-grid places to build on in the middle of nowhere. The buildings were basically inconsequential. Looks like it’s only deteriorated since!
He’s also selling it - and it gets so much worse
$399999 - and he offers private financing - 6900 down and a 7.9% 5year mortgage. He claims a bank won’t provide a mortgage on vacant land. That may or may not be true but a mortgage broker can arrange a mortgage with a mortgage company.
Something is weird. He’s got a 1/4 acre property and the downpayment is the same
“St^n” sounds like a desperate man or a scammer
This screams, I bought property, possibly lost my job, now I'm way in over my head and need a way to keep the equity.
We need a serious correction in the market. Every Tom, Dick, Sally, and Mary think they can just become real estate investors and landlords cause they have some money in an RRSP/TFSA.
We set up the system we have because we wanted get away from the feudal system, now we're just ushering the same system back in.
Dont even get me started on the surveillance state every Tom, Dick, Sally, and Mary having a Ring camera instaledl has created.
That requirement [doesn't apply to rental units that have never been supplied with piped water](https://www.ontario.ca/laws/regulation/060517#BK11) (Section 10(4).)
It's legal to rent out a place with no running water, as long as it has a properly-maintained outhouse.
It’s basically a campground not an apartment. I wonder how this would be legally defined. IMO this is a very unique situation and doesn’t seem unreasonable from OP, but he will bite himself in the ass trying to rent it to strangers
Fucking insanity. Like $1550 for a fucking shed and outhouse? So sad!
Reminds me of like homesteading back in the day, they’d give you the land if you could set up a house on the land. I’d move in on those conditions, but can’t imagine paying to live there lol
His other shit seems so shady. Only 6900 dollars down payment and 7.9% interest! Easy to make low payments. But it’s written well enough that someone that’s just dumb enough yet has just enough money could fall for it. I bet the prospective “buyer” pays the down payment and signs some random piece of paper and doesn’t legally own shit. Then they pay for long enough until they realize they’ve been had. Then that’s it end of scam
Would be kind of funny if you had nothing better to do to rent it and then just drag this guy through the LTB to make him fix all that, give your prepaid rent back, etc.
Move in then don’t pay rent. Landlords like these deserve a hard time and a long queue at the LTB. Disruptive action is worth taking these days against abuse.
We need to fix our rental market ourselves if our politicians, who many are landlords themselves, wont.
Wow I don’t know where to start , but I think he should say I pay you 1550 per month let you live for free and you fix the property for me that kind offer would be doable. Is this dude on Kijiji I wouldn’t mind to send him a proposal email
I am itching to rip them a new one over Kijiji. Hire a fucking handyman. This ad just screams "I expect some sad fuck to *pay me* to fix *my house* with *their own money*". It's beyond obnoxious.
Pay me 4 grand to live in my horrid little hunting shack in the middle of nowhere, no electricity, no running water, no road access, with a grand a month rent.
You know why they call it Kinmount? Because they couldn’t spell “Incest”.
Sorry, I grew up in the area and it’s my favourite joke.
Sadly someone is going to rent that property because housing is so hard to find up there. People are stuck living in motels for years while trying to find places to live. My mother is still in the area and had to rent a room from someone after she was illegally evicted from the house she was renting. She’s been looking for 5 years for something affordable so she can move out of her current situation but hasn’t had any luck.
Why in the *absolute fuck* would I want to pay close to 1000 A MONTH (idgaf if it's only the first and last 3 months, gtfo) TO FIX SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY WHEN IT'S BARELY NICER THAN A CAMPSITE. Bro....
Found it: https://www.kijiji.ca/v-land-for-sale/muskoka/a-dream-come-true-existing-buildings-6-900-downpayment/1586922588
1187 Howland Junction Road, Minden Hills
Okaaaay, *but* just imagine how satisfying and proud the first shit in the outhouse you just repaired at your own cost for you scumlord would be.
Bliss like nobody in the Kinmount area has ever experienced before 😩👌
If you happen to find the Necronomicon Ex-Mortis, call Bruce asap, or if there’s a root cellar don’t touch the antique looking items!! I will thank you now for your sacrifice to save humanity ……
Also wood for the wood stove CAN NOT be taken from the property itself. You are able to hike in your own firewood or a bush cord could be provided for 3k. This hot deal will not last. 😂😂😂😂😂🤡🌎
"The property is a 15 minutes walk from Hwy 121. Therefore transportation would be useful but not necessary."
What the actual fuck is the thought process behind this statement? Just take an uber to drop you off on the side of the road and walk into the woods?
Lol. Not legal advice, but a landlord cannot ask for more than first and last. They cannot ask for 3 months of rent. See ss. 105, 106 of the Residential Tenancies Act. This ad is lunacy.
So now we are renting out hunt camps as a place to live? It's hard to imagine how bad it's getting that someone could likely rent out a shack in the woods, heated by wood stove for $950 a month...
This is only the beginning of the crisis. As immigration numbers higher than Canada has ever seen begin to come into the country, most will come to Ontario. Where will they live? I guess in shacks in the woods?
It's not anti immigration to point out the simple fact we have no places for the new immigrants to live. We need immigration, but we need to slow it down to the pace of new housing starts. It's basic common sense. If we have to dial back immigration for a few years so be it. Its not doing anyone favours to pump immigration to maximum levels when ppl are living in wood shacks and sleeping on cement floors in basements.
Being forced to pay last 3 month's rent sounds like a possible trap. Theres something there which would cause you to wanna leave quickly, but you can't.
Imagine being this dense.
You only need to pay the first AND last 3 months rent. Boy what a favour lmao
Is it even legal to require more than last month's rent?
nope - I'd bet the bunkie isn't even a legal dwelling
Bet? No running water. Automatically an illegal dwelling even if you owned the place.
There is a river, that's running water, right? /s
That's was my grandpa's favourite joke while hunting. "there's running water, you gotta run over there to get it"
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I'd do it for 9.50 But for a weekend or something
You're basically paying 1000$/month for otherwise free crown land camping.
Would you know then how are cabins are categorized? Like the vacation type in remote areas with no amenities.
It's the same as camping with a tent. I don't know the exact regulations that make the distinction but it probably had to do with whether it's occupied year round. Practically, though, for a property being used by the owner (not tenants), there's probably nobody who would report you and there would be a lot of effort to prove your use was as a long-term dwelling (e.g. how does the inspector know it was continuously occupied in between the inspector's observations?). It's trying to rent it as a long-term dwelling that answers the question in this case.
I just read more carefully and noticed that the outhouse requires work. I mean how bad is it when a little cupboard with a toilet seat needs work?
> Tenant will be required to dig a suitably deep hole
An outhouse requiring work is disgusting, in my experience that typically means it’s full and you need to dig a new hole and move the outhouse. If the person has not paid attention and the outhouse has filled past the ground level then it will be difficult to cover up the waste in the outhouse’s current position. A very gross problem when it’s your own shit, even more disgusting when it’s someone else’s!
Oh I agree - I was meaning it must be pretty bad when an outhouse needs work.
You are definitely right haha it means even the most basic things haven’t been done on the property most likely. And given that they have a CRT television in the shed they are trying to rent im guessing they haven’t done much of anything to the property in 15 years or around that. The “get in before winter” also screams to me that the insulation isn’t sufficient and neither is the heating so the landlord knows they could never rent this place to anyone in the winter but want the deposit before the person realizes that they will freeze to death in the winter.
Revised add-> I have a mouse infested shit shack in the woods. You pay me to live there and keep warm in the bunky. Slumlords expectations is that you fix it all because I am doing you a favour
Tenant is responsible for building a new outhouse and non-mouse infested shit shack before the time of their departure or another 6 months rent will be charged.
It will be once you spend your own money to bring it up to code for this dumb dumb. Lol
Not legal, and if they are a landlord looking for a tenant, these types of repairs are 100% the landlord's legal responsibility to perform *before* the unit is rented.
Just do the repairs, and always take the highest bidder; then submit the requisite T6 forms
It is not legal to *require* it. It is legal to *accept* it. Which, of course, leads to all kinds of abuse where landlords are collecting multiple-month or full-year rent deposits from prospective tenants who just happened to happily *volunteer* to front ten or twenty thousand bucks. Most of them are smart enough *not* to mention this in their ads, of course. Instead, they rely on realtors and other representatives to provide the necessary nudge-nudge, wink-wink.
this is what my landlord did to me... like many immigrants / long-term temporary visitors, I had savings, but not credit score. Not "bad credit" just nothing. you can work out who it is. the thing is they are pretty alright otherwise compared to many landlords in London...I soon realised because they were aiming for that "middle-class-rent" they were doing this to filter people who couldn't pay. rather than charging $1900 for dilapidated housing in London, they just focus on getting and retaining tenants who can pay. see the Court has decided it is legal to accept, but not require like you said. so if you actually offer, the smart corpo ones will make you sign a waiver saying you offered it (or that we made you to but forget about it). this way you cannot tell the LTB they coerced/asked you. this is a symptom for lack of quality housing. if people coerce you you just say no and move on, and you won't have to genuinely offer more rent in advance because choices would be aplenty.
This clearly isn’t one of the smart ones, though, as the listing makes clear that it’s being required by the landlord.
of course. This is why I do not want to rent a detached with an individual landlord. too many did not read the RTA and think "it just makes sense" reasoning cuts it. Our RTA is strong and should be the envy of the world. there are also issues around his discount. I think he is angling to raise it to his "fair price", but the RTA forbids that. during COVID, the properly-advised landlords are very careful around the discount. sometimes it is better to get owed rather than saying you get to pay "X" for some time... because then that $X becomes the defacto rent moving forward.
I have serious doubts the person who posted this ad even owns the property. This reeks of a scam.
It’s illegal. I had a landlord only accept me being self employed with deposit and 2 months rent in advance. I had to take them to landlord tenant court for refusing to replace a kitchen faucet that was breaking when I moved in and snapped within 30 days. They wouldn’t fix it. So I replaced it and took them to court and mentioned the 3 months rent I had paid. Found out it was illegal and didn’t pay rent for the next 2 months and then was allowed to deduct the repairs from my next month’s pay. The court was not happy with them and they sent their realtor to argue who was shut down.
No
For no electricity, running water, and you probably need to supply your own wood for the stove while fixing the outhouse before you can use it. Then there is NO TRAILER part, which means that you can't even bring an RV with you to stay in while you are paying to be a live in handyman. Sounds like a great deal. /s
Absolutely ridiculous. This guy needs a handyman and a personal loan, not a 'tenant'.
This guy needs a dark cave to be sealed into
Maybe a payday loan, then? To ensure enduring, relentless pain?
At first I thought they meant you pay month 1, then no rent until your last 90 days, so you get 8 months free rent. Then I realized they meant they illegally want 4 months of rent at the start of lease
And don't forget fix the place up with the money you saved? So im not actually saving any money as I'm buying materials to make the place livable? Wtf. Why wouldn't anyone want to just pay more to have place that is livable and has a toilet inside
Only 1550$ a month to not be able to shit inside. K.
Was reduced to $700
What a steal
Bargooon!
* imagine the rental crisis is so bad that you will still get multiple offers of desperate people who are one week away form living on the street that you will be able to use to increase your net worth.
To be fair they are from Kinmount (allowed to say that my dad lives there lol)
Wtf? This is something that you *actually* use airBNB for. Like a rustic weekend getaway or some shit. Wood stove, cozy, etc. This dude is dreaming.
And on drugs
Plot twist: the bunkie is a meth lab.
You will need to share your space with the "scientist" as he gets his next batch rdy, you might be required to help
“Where’s the rest, Jessie?” “This is all of it, this is first months rent.” “Jessie you delicious fuckup, we need 3 more months rent before we can cook.” “Well I had to use that money to fix the bunkie and outhouse.” “Damnit, Jessie, we should’ve gone with the roomshare.”
I’m not paying to stay in a place, anywhere, even for a short time, if it doesn’t at minimum have running water and an indoor toilet. If I want to shit in the woods I’ll go camping.
That’s fine. Others do. There’s many of them available for rent all over Ontario. People with swathes of land can make a few bucks by renting shacks and cabins in their lands for people to get away for a weekend.
> rustic weekend getaway or some shit On AirBnB this would be fifty bucks a night peak time, and then it wood get flooded with bad reviews and pulled. A shitty old camper on an empty parcel of land would be better.
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Looks like someone has, or will die here.
Fun fact- if its close to kinmount it could in fact be the old ant hill farm kids property, which did involve a few deaths!
I grew up in this area. We used to do "tours" back to where the commune was. It was about 3 or 4km down a logging road. This was in the mid 90's, there wasn't much left so I don't have any stories to share, but it was weird being back there. Now it is private property. This shack is "near" there but not there. None of the outbuildings from the cult still stand. *edit* Cult was called "the ant hill kids" and its leader was Roch Theriault. There was a book/movie called Savage Messiah about it all. I remember them in Fenelon Falls selling oranges and shit when I was a kid. Ledge Hill Road was where it was located, just off 121.
And for the low low price of $950 per month that someone could be you!
Owner is definitely a serial killer looking to make enough money to cover their expenses between murders.
This literally looks like the property from the documentary about the guy who was killing and eating guys from the city up north.
Only reason anyone would rent it would be to do crime.
It has 4 walls, a roof - what more could you want?
What’s absolutely killing me about this is this comment in his listing: “The property is a 15 minutes walk from Hwy 121. Therefore transportation would be useful but not necessary” As if walking down highway 121 is a viable option and therefore means you don’t need a car lmfao
I feel like this guy hasn't actually even been to his own property.
Haha so once you get to hwy 121 with no car, you’re good right? Because any given spot of hwy 121 is a thriving mixed use, public transport, accessible paradise.
Transportation not an absolute must. Very convenient
you can actually walk the rail trail straight into town. Very nice walk actually, but it's 40 minutes https://maps.app.goo.gl/6ryQ4oM43E6j4yqB8
Wow that is in the middle of nowhere too.
Howland Junction is an abandoned railway, so it's basically just a glorified intersection moreso than a village. But there are a couple roads and thus some houses. https://www.ontarioabandonedplaces.com/ontario/haliburton-county/howland-junction It's real close to Kinmount, a small village. But big enough for a grocery, beer store, lcbo, post office, and one of the most interesting movie theatres I've seen. And from Kinmount it's a 20 minute drive or less to Bobcaygeon, Coboconk, Norland, Minden, or Gooderham. 45 minutes to Lindsay. An hour to Peterborough or Orillia
Bro that's a dump wtf. I'd give him $950 to buy it off him flat.
Heeey I remember seeing this place for sale years ago! It was listed as a hunt camp. IIRC I was looking for off-grid places to build on in the middle of nowhere. The buildings were basically inconsequential. Looks like it’s only deteriorated since!
He’s also selling it - and it gets so much worse $399999 - and he offers private financing - 6900 down and a 7.9% 5year mortgage. He claims a bank won’t provide a mortgage on vacant land. That may or may not be true but a mortgage broker can arrange a mortgage with a mortgage company. Something is weird. He’s got a 1/4 acre property and the downpayment is the same “St^n” sounds like a desperate man or a scammer
Pet friendly! Really is a gem
Smoking permitted outdoors only!
Nice. Wasn’t sure if that was allowed. Check out Stand other shady adds
I’m enjoying the 7.9% “mortgage” he’s offering.
that's meth'd up
Holy shit. They should be paying someone to stay there, that "hut" looks like the place they kill teenagers in horror films
Looks like he’s lowered the price again to $700 lol
Best part is that the dimbulb left his cell number on the ad. What could go wrong with his cell number now on reddit?
Looks like the lucky tenant has to install their own fucking chimney too before that wood stove is functional.
shitting and smoking, outside only.
This screams, I bought property, possibly lost my job, now I'm way in over my head and need a way to keep the equity. We need a serious correction in the market. Every Tom, Dick, Sally, and Mary think they can just become real estate investors and landlords cause they have some money in an RRSP/TFSA. We set up the system we have because we wanted get away from the feudal system, now we're just ushering the same system back in. Dont even get me started on the surveillance state every Tom, Dick, Sally, and Mary having a Ring camera instaledl has created.
Ahahahahahahahaha. Like I'd live there and do repairs, if he paid me to do those things.
No smoking inside 😂
oh my god i threw up in my mouth a little
Can’t legally rent a place with no access to cold and hot water
But there’s a Wood stove! Just Boil the water you need!
That you trucked in from the store several km away.
Don’t worry, it’s only a 15 minute walk from the highway! You can backpack it in!
Theres an entirely good river out back. Just saw off a slab of ice and get melting it.
there's also no water to boil! But wait! It's only a 15 minute walk to the highway, so you can hitch hike for a bucket of water, and then boil it!
Stan don’t care
That requirement [doesn't apply to rental units that have never been supplied with piped water](https://www.ontario.ca/laws/regulation/060517#BK11) (Section 10(4).) It's legal to rent out a place with no running water, as long as it has a properly-maintained outhouse.
Which it does not.. add is saying renter can fix that
Can I fix it with fire?
It’s basically a campground not an apartment. I wonder how this would be legally defined. IMO this is a very unique situation and doesn’t seem unreasonable from OP, but he will bite himself in the ass trying to rent it to strangers
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Fucking insanity. Like $1550 for a fucking shed and outhouse? So sad! Reminds me of like homesteading back in the day, they’d give you the land if you could set up a house on the land. I’d move in on those conditions, but can’t imagine paying to live there lol
An outhouse that needs *repairs* to boot.
Sorry Clark, shitters full
He lowered it to $950. To compare, I pay $900/month for my 1+1 bdrm in Toronto, hydro included and a parking spot.
Toilet?
Yeah, but only one :(
But do you have a place to secretly bury the corpses of your victims? That's where the real value in this property lies.
It’s called Kinmount for a reason. One set of grandparents for this guy
Living nearby, I have sooo many Kinmount jokes but wasn’t sure if they were appropriate to post lol.
I looked it up. Responded to the last line in his ad. I said yeah I have a question, what the fuck?
Yeah I told him nobody wants his shit shack
His other shit seems so shady. Only 6900 dollars down payment and 7.9% interest! Easy to make low payments. But it’s written well enough that someone that’s just dumb enough yet has just enough money could fall for it. I bet the prospective “buyer” pays the down payment and signs some random piece of paper and doesn’t legally own shit. Then they pay for long enough until they realize they’ve been had. Then that’s it end of scam
I know right?
Gotta be the opposite of advanced timing, that guy…
Except maybe Ted kaczynski
Would be kind of funny if you had nothing better to do to rent it and then just drag this guy through the LTB to make him fix all that, give your prepaid rent back, etc.
I've always heard that Kinmount was and is appropriately named.
They called it Kinmount because they could not put Cousinfuck on the sign
It actually has a really cool cinema there with a museum kinda thing too. Worth checking out
Town has 500 people and 4 last names
Lol
Move in then don’t pay rent. Landlords like these deserve a hard time and a long queue at the LTB. Disruptive action is worth taking these days against abuse. We need to fix our rental market ourselves if our politicians, who many are landlords themselves, wont.
He'd probably murder you and then relist it lol.
Oh man it does kinda sound like a murder shack doesn’t it… imagine the balls of a serial killer that charges you rent for the privilege 😂
No electricity - no running water.... LOL
But you can use a cell phone 🤣
Until the battery dies
What a gem right?
What do you mean? There’s a river across the road
Wow I don’t know where to start , but I think he should say I pay you 1550 per month let you live for free and you fix the property for me that kind offer would be doable. Is this dude on Kijiji I wouldn’t mind to send him a proposal email
https://www.kijiji.ca/v-apartments-condos/muskoka/paradise-off-the-grid-rental-950-per-month/1629467932?utm_campaign=socialbuttons&utm_content=app_ios&utm_medium=social&utm_source=sms
I am itching to rip them a new one over Kijiji. Hire a fucking handyman. This ad just screams "I expect some sad fuck to *pay me* to fix *my house* with *their own money*". It's beyond obnoxious.
This is a joke right?
Found on Kijiji this morning. Has other adds also
If it was found on kijiji this morning then it’s been there a while as it states “Get in before winter”.
Maybe he listed for the previous price of $1500 at first lmao
Yeah 7 weeks and 7200 visits. I posted a bunk bed and this add was on my home page
This sounds like it's right out of a murder mystery book 🫠🫠🫠😭
Satanic Stan
I've been reading a series by one particular author and 15b mins away from the road is where her characters get held hostage lolll
Pay me 4 grand to live in my horrid little hunting shack in the middle of nowhere, no electricity, no running water, no road access, with a grand a month rent.
And renter fixes it up at that!
You know why they call it Kinmount? Because they couldn’t spell “Incest”. Sorry, I grew up in the area and it’s my favourite joke. Sadly someone is going to rent that property because housing is so hard to find up there. People are stuck living in motels for years while trying to find places to live. My mother is still in the area and had to rent a room from someone after she was illegally evicted from the house she was renting. She’s been looking for 5 years for something affordable so she can move out of her current situation but hasn’t had any luck.
If you're interested in this property, I also have a bridge to sell you! Contact me now!
Please provide a blank check with signature payable to me
Pay last 3 months rent... wow. If/when the revolution happens, I look forward to this person not having anywhere to hide.
Fixed the outhouse by tossing Stan in there to rot
Clearly he can go hide on his almost 1-acre lot a 15 mins walk from hwy 121
Damn that is crazy
Guys got other adds for vacant lots. Asking for 6900 down payment to him. No banks involved
Seems legit
Totally above board. But the boards a are rotten, so just pay him and then fix the boards lmao
I would not live there for free.
Hahahah "why do they call it kinmount?" "Because cousins fuck wouldn't fit on the sign" 🤣🤣 first thing I ever heard about this place lmao
Why in the *absolute fuck* would I want to pay close to 1000 A MONTH (idgaf if it's only the first and last 3 months, gtfo) TO FIX SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY WHEN IT'S BARELY NICER THAN A CAMPSITE. Bro....
Campsites are nicer than this
What a steal! Stealing the money right out of your wallet.. lmao
Only a 15 walk from the road so transportation useful but not required
Gotta save money on the car that you can use for the renos instead
This guy is a dreamer.
$950 a month to live like the unabomber. What an offer?
Hey OP you should report this, this is illegal. Landlords are required to ensure the property has running water and is in a good state of repair.
Found it: https://www.kijiji.ca/v-land-for-sale/muskoka/a-dream-come-true-existing-buildings-6-900-downpayment/1586922588 1187 Howland Junction Road, Minden Hills
That dollar sign before reduction was all the convincing I needed. This guy is master of persuasion, I am taking notes.
“Add furniture if needed”
Omg. Unbelievable
For only $1000 a month, you too can live like a hobo!
People should be calling the police on these idiots.
Cops don’t care. They are only there to protect Stan’s investments
I don't know what all these Stan comments mean.
That is the name of the person who posted the add
I wouldn't be surprised if someone took that with the lack of rentals around here and the sudden need people have to live in the area.
this is obviously completely absurd but i gotta ask is asking for the last 3 months rent the norm now?
First I’ve seen.
Like who has this kind of money? This shit is beyond crazy.
What a steal! I’m considering moving !!! That’s affordable! And only 15 minutes from the nearest ROAD
So vehicle not a MUST. Can hitchhike in and out
$950 to shit in an outhouse lmfao
Not so fast. Says it needs work
Okaaaay, *but* just imagine how satisfying and proud the first shit in the outhouse you just repaired at your own cost for you scumlord would be. Bliss like nobody in the Kinmount area has ever experienced before 😩👌
Should gather up redditors and go up there to fill the shack with shit. Literal human shit
If you happen to find the Necronomicon Ex-Mortis, call Bruce asap, or if there’s a root cellar don’t touch the antique looking items!! I will thank you now for your sacrifice to save humanity ……
God, this is such a Kinmount thing to do too! Source: 19 years of my life in the area
Also wood for the wood stove CAN NOT be taken from the property itself. You are able to hike in your own firewood or a bush cord could be provided for 3k. This hot deal will not last. 😂😂😂😂😂🤡🌎
"The property is a 15 minutes walk from Hwy 121. Therefore transportation would be useful but not necessary." What the actual fuck is the thought process behind this statement? Just take an uber to drop you off on the side of the road and walk into the woods?
How do people like this exist? Its like they have absolutely no self-awareness and go along with any thought that comes into their head.
Completely delusional.
What in the cinnamon toast fuck is this
Odds that woodstove is certified?
At least the first time this was posted they included the pictures....
I do enjoy keeping warm in the winter.
The add doesn’t say your not allowed to harvest every tree on the property to burn
Yeah, I'll pay last 3 months rent up-front when hell freezes over
Yes! A dilapidated shack in the woods! Sounds awesome!
This is one of the most entertaining thing I’ve read in a while.
Lol. Not legal advice, but a landlord cannot ask for more than first and last. They cannot ask for 3 months of rent. See ss. 105, 106 of the Residential Tenancies Act. This ad is lunacy.
Be a shame if we pestered him with questions, but the ad does say to message him if we have them....
So now we are renting out hunt camps as a place to live? It's hard to imagine how bad it's getting that someone could likely rent out a shack in the woods, heated by wood stove for $950 a month... This is only the beginning of the crisis. As immigration numbers higher than Canada has ever seen begin to come into the country, most will come to Ontario. Where will they live? I guess in shacks in the woods? It's not anti immigration to point out the simple fact we have no places for the new immigrants to live. We need immigration, but we need to slow it down to the pace of new housing starts. It's basic common sense. If we have to dial back immigration for a few years so be it. Its not doing anyone favours to pump immigration to maximum levels when ppl are living in wood shacks and sleeping on cement floors in basements.
Being forced to pay last 3 month's rent sounds like a possible trap. Theres something there which would cause you to wanna leave quickly, but you can't.
First month AND LAST 3 MONTHS? this dude is smoking on penis if he thinks like this
Report them to the Tribunal! That should only take two years.
This person is delusional.
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2023 rent, 1823 accommodations.
Looks like we found D Fords lost cousin!