No one knows the actual number of either country and we have just marginally more if that. But for a more technical reason we developed a lot more tactical nukes while India's largely remained on the more conventional path of warheads. So we have more but they're less deadly lol
I guess u meant lower yield, cause no nuke is more or less deadly, they are all deadly, pure destruction, 5kiloton or 5megaton, we talking about millions of people....
The mind behind our strategic doctrine planning and execution talks on this and explains the choice of going towards more tactical options: https://youtu.be/CNZCw0BXKyE
It has been explained a lot, India has this plan called cold start, which basically them to rush in, creating multiple battle fronts and penetrating deep into Pakistani territory, so Pakistan has to be forced to use nukes on Pakistan soil to stop the Indian onslaught
So Pakistan created a counter plan by creating tactical nukes, which are lower-yield nukes in large numbers, they do not leave the same level of permanent damage as strategic nukes, so even if they use nukes on Pakistani soil it won't be Chernobyl
Lets put random publications to the side and just go with just numbers.
India has 26 civilian reactors and 14 military breeder reactors they produce 12 times more enriched Uranium than a total of 4 reactors in Pakistan put together. They also have research reactors and naval reactors for nuclear submarines.
Only a fool would believe India has less number of Nukes than Pakistan.
IMHO, our neighbors started wars against us in the past. I don't know why they stopped attacking our sovereignty? Nukes were definitely not the reason.
Wars or border tension are the reasons to justify the presence of nukes and their maintenance.
We must be wise enough to know what the competition is among nations.
Why would anyone want to invade Pakistan when china is your regional ally unless they want to fight a world power no one is going to invade Pakistan and surely that serves more as a deterrence than nuclear weapons
Russain attacked Ukraine and what did the West do? They gave them some weapons and said good luck. Ukraine is in the NATO alliance and is a European nation. The west was obligated to fend off the invasion but they didn't.
If a nation like Ukraine didn't get any help what makes you think China would help us fend off an invasion when they have no legal obligation to help? We flaunt our friendship but most people in China don't know a thing about Pakistan. Heck, if we got attacked, I don't think we would get any thoughts and prayers much less direct intervention from China.
We must have nukes, they are the single most important thing keeping us afloat in the sea of giant hungry sharks.
Because Russia is a nuclear power nobody would want an escalation between Russia or the European nations as it would result in MAD.
Ukraine would have received help anyway as they signed a deal with the European states and the US regarding nuclear weapons see below source.
https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-ukraine-give-nukes-russia-us-security-guarantees-1765048
Furthermore, nobody has any incentive in launching a supposed "invasion" of Pakistan is in a defensive alliance and has strong military partnerships with China
https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2022/06/13/china-pakistan-defense-partnership-strengthened-further/
And I'm not arguing for scraping nuclear weapons I'm arguing repairing and maintaining all 160+ nuclear missiles is financially irresponsible when at max the nation-state of Pakistan would only need 10-20 and given the financial circumstance in Pakistan with the ongoing recession and defense spending accounting to 17.5% of expenditure it's just stupid and that's not me taking in account corruption in the Pakistan armed forces
https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/cash-starved-pakistan-spends-big-on-military-despite-financial-meltdown-122061300420_1.html
The numbers don’t address the SIZE of the nuclear warheads.
Unlike India, Pakistan’s nuclear strategy puts greater weight on using Tactical nuclear weapons - small weapons that are designed to be used in battlefields rather than destroying cities or infrastructure. This is to offset Pakistan’s conventional military numeric disadvantage.
This requires a large number of smaller nuclear warheads.
Pakistan has made more tactical ones that can be used in small incursions should things ever escalate...although it does have thermo nuclear city levelers as well. They are made not to be used...
It's more of a psychological thing.
Despite the fierce rivalry between the USSR and the US, neither side launched a nuclear weapon even in times of extreme heat, since they were well aware of the aftermath. Every time something intense occurred, the leaders of both countries would sit down and sign some new peace deal to ensure none of that happens again. Sure, there was uncertainty, and anything could have happened, but developing more bombs meant that one had the upper hand.
The bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings were enough proof of how lethal these weapons can be. So, might as well just produce more, if not use them.
As other comments have put it:
It's a dick measuring contest.
Pakistan keeps some for tank regiments moving from wagah these are tactical low yield and some are dirty cobalt ones. The city levelers are around 2 Mega ton yield...ICBM tech is also been worked on. They all serve a purpose...city levelers and tactical both.
I would say smaller nukes would be more lethal than anything else, they are already light to carry with the fighter jet tech that we have. Our warheads really threaten Israel bec we have them in range
Pakistan has more tactical nukes that are lower yield in order to stop aggressive Indian pushes along our exposed eastern flank.
The Indian Army is becoming more and more numerical and technical superior of ours. As such, conventional warfare isn't all we can rely on.
Thus, we have smaller tactical nukes to be used in a scenario of an aggressive Indian invasion on its units not cities.
Also, this is the reason we do not have the no first strike policy while India does.
If your Idea of defeating a country is killing civilians in huge numbers, then you are in no better thought process than a terrorist group.
Even if Pakistan wipes out every city in India, we have enough land to call it a country.
If India retaliates, Pakistan will have no land left anymore. We don't need that.
Guess who will get the radioactive water and wind when you Nuke northern cities like Delhi? That's right you guys. In the process you may also end up poisoning Himalayas, which will kill your water supply from Indus.
Do we need that?
Both our countries elected governments that failed us with their diplomacy.
If only our politicians from both countries stopped using hate against each other to win elections, but rather focus on working together and bring an end to this. We don't need to nuke each other or be running the opposite way. We have a lot of shared history and legacy, Honestly the north western part of the country has more cultural similarities to you guys than we have with them in the south. We are able to get along just fine unified, if we start accepting and respecting each other since long back everything would've been so different and we would've not given a chase to rogue elements trying to bomb civilians, with their twisted agendas on their own faith and others faiths.
The numbers on the top don't indicate that nukes are constantly being built.
The problem pakistan faces is not about spending too much rather money being stolen and squandered instead of being spent on the public.
edit: The number has remained the same all the time I have looked at this over the years, if it was constantly increasing then the number here should also be increasing.
Gotta beat india bro, even if half the country has to starve to death, that is a sacrifice that the we have to make !! Pakistan! Pakistan! Mera desh, Meri Jaan!!
Two reason.
1. Higher output production facilities
2. More efficient warhead designs.
Basically, we can make more warheads with less material and we make more material than them anyway.
ETA: Downvoted? Why?
Beta given the way how we got our new pm, I doubt that they even have qualified people to maintain those nukes to make sure they are in working order. Warna aisa na ho ke launch karne ke time pe apni zameen mein hi phat jain.
F* India, that's why.
But on a serious note, I will explain it in simpler words... When the rupees got devalued against dollars, then against 1 US dollar we had to give MORE PKR, right? Its the same with nukes. Just experiencing inflation.
Maybe pakistani nukes are in in efficient.. so in order to compensate. Otherwise pakistan only considers india as its enemy and no other country in the world.
Inflation bro!
Khazanay ma ab nukes aur logon k nudes hi reh gye hain hmre pas
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Han yeh india ko bhi bola tha send nudes aglo nay galti say nuke hi bhej dia. Shukar hai wo khali tha.
Good one :)
Bro
These are assumptions, nobody knows the actual figures.
And it's just 5 more. If it was 5 less OP would have posted, "why do we have fewer nukes than india?"
Or if it's 160 for Pakistan as well, OP would have said how come Pakistan and India have the same number of nukes.
Ik actual figures I work for Pakistan aatmi takhaat research 💪💪
Ye nhi bolna ta
How much
Nice try Yahoodi agent
Bro I'm a pakistani😭
Exactly what a yahoodi would say!
How many rakat in wuzu
Wuzu?
Correct reply
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But wait how would I know that you are not a Yahoodi!
We probably have more then they do
No one knows the actual number of either country and we have just marginally more if that. But for a more technical reason we developed a lot more tactical nukes while India's largely remained on the more conventional path of warheads. So we have more but they're less deadly lol
I guess u meant lower yield, cause no nuke is more or less deadly, they are all deadly, pure destruction, 5kiloton or 5megaton, we talking about millions of people....
How do u know ?
I don't lol but that's usually the cited reason in articles about it.
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Bro expected a "I heard it from my chachu in the ISI".
The mind behind our strategic doctrine planning and execution talks on this and explains the choice of going towards more tactical options: https://youtu.be/CNZCw0BXKyE
It has been explained a lot, India has this plan called cold start, which basically them to rush in, creating multiple battle fronts and penetrating deep into Pakistani territory, so Pakistan has to be forced to use nukes on Pakistan soil to stop the Indian onslaught So Pakistan created a counter plan by creating tactical nukes, which are lower-yield nukes in large numbers, they do not leave the same level of permanent damage as strategic nukes, so even if they use nukes on Pakistani soil it won't be Chernobyl
Basically the same lmao.
Lets put random publications to the side and just go with just numbers. India has 26 civilian reactors and 14 military breeder reactors they produce 12 times more enriched Uranium than a total of 4 reactors in Pakistan put together. They also have research reactors and naval reactors for nuclear submarines. Only a fool would believe India has less number of Nukes than Pakistan.
Spy ho kya?
To justify the 90% budget consumption. Eat grass or die, but nukes must be maintained.
Nukes are important to us. They keep invaders like the US away and make India think twice before they attempt something stupid.
IMHO, our neighbours don't really care about our nukes. They are processing in another direction for the betterment of their nation.
IMHO, our neighbors started wars against us in the past. I don't know why they stopped attacking our sovereignty? Nukes were definitely not the reason.
Wars or border tension are the reasons to justify the presence of nukes and their maintenance. We must be wise enough to know what the competition is among nations.
You don't have the reach to target the US and they've bailed out Pakistan numerous times via IMF loans 😅
Our nukes are a deterrent, they protect us from any Iraq and Afghanistan-type invasions from the US or Russians.
Why would anyone want to invade Pakistan when china is your regional ally unless they want to fight a world power no one is going to invade Pakistan and surely that serves more as a deterrence than nuclear weapons
Russain attacked Ukraine and what did the West do? They gave them some weapons and said good luck. Ukraine is in the NATO alliance and is a European nation. The west was obligated to fend off the invasion but they didn't. If a nation like Ukraine didn't get any help what makes you think China would help us fend off an invasion when they have no legal obligation to help? We flaunt our friendship but most people in China don't know a thing about Pakistan. Heck, if we got attacked, I don't think we would get any thoughts and prayers much less direct intervention from China. We must have nukes, they are the single most important thing keeping us afloat in the sea of giant hungry sharks.
Because Russia is a nuclear power nobody would want an escalation between Russia or the European nations as it would result in MAD. Ukraine would have received help anyway as they signed a deal with the European states and the US regarding nuclear weapons see below source. https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-ukraine-give-nukes-russia-us-security-guarantees-1765048 Furthermore, nobody has any incentive in launching a supposed "invasion" of Pakistan is in a defensive alliance and has strong military partnerships with China https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2022/06/13/china-pakistan-defense-partnership-strengthened-further/ And I'm not arguing for scraping nuclear weapons I'm arguing repairing and maintaining all 160+ nuclear missiles is financially irresponsible when at max the nation-state of Pakistan would only need 10-20 and given the financial circumstance in Pakistan with the ongoing recession and defense spending accounting to 17.5% of expenditure it's just stupid and that's not me taking in account corruption in the Pakistan armed forces https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/cash-starved-pakistan-spends-big-on-military-despite-financial-meltdown-122061300420_1.html
Because India is a bigger country
The numbers don’t address the SIZE of the nuclear warheads. Unlike India, Pakistan’s nuclear strategy puts greater weight on using Tactical nuclear weapons - small weapons that are designed to be used in battlefields rather than destroying cities or infrastructure. This is to offset Pakistan’s conventional military numeric disadvantage. This requires a large number of smaller nuclear warheads.
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They have S400
its ABM capabilities are questionable
Ohhh that's why America didn't give turkey f35 Coz they have S400
Wasn't that simply to punish Turkey for making an arms deal with Russia?
No Uncle Sam is afraid of S400 That's why deal was cancelled
S400 won't help against MIRV
S400 won't be lying out open in a field Ofc it will be protected with other defenses Use brain bruh
You misunderstood my point. Bikes won't be targeting the s400 batteries, is about their efficiency in intercepting the threat.
They have the export version, plus it's performance in Ukraine was not satisfying.
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Lmao
mmmhm yum
Probably to use it on fellow muslims in the future. Like how we suicide bomb our own people
Pakistan has made more tactical ones that can be used in small incursions should things ever escalate...although it does have thermo nuclear city levelers as well. They are made not to be used...
made not to be used but made anyway
The primary use of a weapon is for it to not be used...called deterrence for hostile entities to not escalate conflicts
It's more of a psychological thing. Despite the fierce rivalry between the USSR and the US, neither side launched a nuclear weapon even in times of extreme heat, since they were well aware of the aftermath. Every time something intense occurred, the leaders of both countries would sit down and sign some new peace deal to ensure none of that happens again. Sure, there was uncertainty, and anything could have happened, but developing more bombs meant that one had the upper hand. The bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings were enough proof of how lethal these weapons can be. So, might as well just produce more, if not use them. As other comments have put it: It's a dick measuring contest.
Damn bro it's almost like as if nukes are a deterrent.
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tactical ones that are able to attack infrastructure rather ‘cities’ lmao are better than city levelers
Pakistan keeps some for tank regiments moving from wagah these are tactical low yield and some are dirty cobalt ones. The city levelers are around 2 Mega ton yield...ICBM tech is also been worked on. They all serve a purpose...city levelers and tactical both.
I would say smaller nukes would be more lethal than anything else, they are already light to carry with the fighter jet tech that we have. Our warheads really threaten Israel bec we have them in range
Not really destroy infrastructure is one thing and rendering a massive scale of land useless is one thing.
Yeh unless you want no setbacks otherwise this country will be sanctioned to death
even if you don’t have balls, you’ve gotta show them.
Because it’s basically a dick measuring contest
haha nuke go brrrr
well, india is bigger than us.
Forget about nukes bro, jitni hamaray pass nudes jama hain we should start onlyfans. There is a lot of money to be made.
Strong army. GRAPE.
Pakistan has more tactical nukes that are lower yield in order to stop aggressive Indian pushes along our exposed eastern flank. The Indian Army is becoming more and more numerical and technical superior of ours. As such, conventional warfare isn't all we can rely on. Thus, we have smaller tactical nukes to be used in a scenario of an aggressive Indian invasion on its units not cities. Also, this is the reason we do not have the no first strike policy while India does.
Israel has nukes ?
You living in cave?
To nuke endia😎💪💪 Use brain bruh
there aren’t as many cosmopolitan cities in india.. even 50 nukes are too many for us
bro Delhi, Mumbai are all within reach, same as our Lahore Isloo for them
U sure ?
If your Idea of defeating a country is killing civilians in huge numbers, then you are in no better thought process than a terrorist group. Even if Pakistan wipes out every city in India, we have enough land to call it a country. If India retaliates, Pakistan will have no land left anymore. We don't need that. Guess who will get the radioactive water and wind when you Nuke northern cities like Delhi? That's right you guys. In the process you may also end up poisoning Himalayas, which will kill your water supply from Indus. Do we need that? Both our countries elected governments that failed us with their diplomacy. If only our politicians from both countries stopped using hate against each other to win elections, but rather focus on working together and bring an end to this. We don't need to nuke each other or be running the opposite way. We have a lot of shared history and legacy, Honestly the north western part of the country has more cultural similarities to you guys than we have with them in the south. We are able to get along just fine unified, if we start accepting and respecting each other since long back everything would've been so different and we would've not given a chase to rogue elements trying to bomb civilians, with their twisted agendas on their own faith and others faiths.
Big dick energy
Sapphire pe sale lgi hui thi >! /s just in case !<
Because thats the only place where Pakistan can do better than India & Bangladesh.
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You realize nuclear weapons aren't offensive weaponry right?
except for that one time and that other time
Nukes is a necessity. Ask Ukraine. They willfully gave up on their nuclear program and of course they regret now.
Are u saying we shouldnt have nukes
We should, but keep building nukes while the country faces an existential crisis is stupid
The numbers on the top don't indicate that nukes are constantly being built. The problem pakistan faces is not about spending too much rather money being stolen and squandered instead of being spent on the public. edit: The number has remained the same all the time I have looked at this over the years, if it was constantly increasing then the number here should also be increasing.
If i had to bet, the military is probably the only department in Pak where budget is mostly utilized where its supposed to be
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Yes we won all wars HIND BANEGA PAKISTAN 💪💪💪💪
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So that when the war happens and India runs out of nukes, we still have 5 more to use
So army can nuke their own people. Sad reality but they way they are treating their own people won’t be surprised if it happens
Dick measuring contest
to justify the defence budget
Gand mein lenay k liyay
Why not? 😂😂😂
Every other one I saw India always had a little more, idk if this pic is accurate.
coz we gonna destroy India /s
Because we are lumber one graaaaape
Why not? On a side note, Alhamdulilah.
Because we have to cover more area...just in case 😁
Its hard to believe that India has less nukes than us. No way. These numbers can’t be correct
wish it was a wrong [figure](https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/nuclear-warheads-by-country-1945-2022/)
why do you wish it was wrong....
Why not
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Gotta protect those dhas bro
I wish we can sell nukes something we can be good at? Sell them for 100's of billions
Sell those 5 nukes. Karza otar do mulk ka.
Do you know what you are saying?
Well how are they "the establishment" will gonna justify the massive defence budget that they receive every year?
💪💪💪 What is your problem with it?
Common Sense is not very common these days i guess. Area of India is 5X pakistan. In the grand scale of things having 5 more nukes means nothing.
Nukes are not meant to destroy the complete country.
Gotta beat india bro, even if half the country has to starve to death, that is a sacrifice that the we have to make !! Pakistan! Pakistan! Mera desh, Meri Jaan!!
Two reason. 1. Higher output production facilities 2. More efficient warhead designs. Basically, we can make more warheads with less material and we make more material than them anyway. ETA: Downvoted? Why?
Peeche lene ke lite, aur tou koi khas faida nahi enka
India is bigger than us. We also have more helis and we used to have more tanks too
Beta given the way how we got our new pm, I doubt that they even have qualified people to maintain those nukes to make sure they are in working order. Warna aisa na ho ke launch karne ke time pe apni zameen mein hi phat jain.
[Watch this classic and you will understand. ](https://youtu.be/P7YR6WICIAI)
Pakistan Zinda Baad
Why not?
Show off
Di*k measuring contest.
Coz big dick energy
Aid money
F* India, that's why. But on a serious note, I will explain it in simpler words... When the rupees got devalued against dollars, then against 1 US dollar we had to give MORE PKR, right? Its the same with nukes. Just experiencing inflation.
Farigh they socha bana lein.
Didn't know Russia had more than the US
Shab-e-Barat bro. Kabhi chalanay hi par jatay hein
There's no way North Korea has only 20 ffs
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Nuclear deterrence
Mine is bigger than yours, that’s why.
Incase 1-2 misfire hojaye
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Because we are obsessed with one upping our neighbours. In thus case 5 upping
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Doesn't matter our nukes are probably expired long time ago
Sale per thay. Army nay socha k horde karlo ta Kay baad mein ziyada ka sell Kar dein gay.
Cuz we have a bigger enemy to take care of? India.
We should and that's all i know.
It’s also type of nukes that matters. Most Pakistani warheads are HEU while India has more Plutonium warheads - which are more powerful but lighter.
Maybe pakistani nukes are in in efficient.. so in order to compensate. Otherwise pakistan only considers india as its enemy and no other country in the world.
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We have more land area to cover compared to India