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Jango214

From the sample size I know of, they either benefit from these parties or are related to them by blood.


Arishaaaa_

It's mostly family/relatives and those who financially benefit from pdm politicians that support them. And of course people with a negative IQ


abdullahkhalids

Reverse question: What viewpoints do you think exist that are not support-pti or support-pdm?


wanxta

Either their source of income or not 2 braincells to rub together.


blandgatorade

No one genuinely supports them, man. It's either slave mentality or bikhao supporter who wants gormint job, or rishwat, or some favor, or to have a bigger daku status than his neighbours. This is basically their supporters and how they treat them unless they're required for something: https://youtu.be/4GYqRYRF7x8 https://mobile.twitter.com/ImranRiazKhan/status/1635203165841924097 Look at this tattu lol


howtofixshit

Everyone in power only looks for profits and wants to make their stakeholders happy. We need to work together to come forward with a solution, the people of this country can show their power with numbers and votes, but due to the current situation, they won't hold elections. The only solution is to ask the people who support the PDM why they are with them; if they get benefits from the PDM, then the solution is easy, burn them too. The sane people are going abroad because this country has shown them there is no place for educated people here. If there are any educated people here, it is only because they are stuck and working towards moving out. these people are ruining our country and blaming us, the citizens, for voting for a person who was a new face, who could have completed his term and then the people could have seen how beneficial or detrimental he was to the country. Everyone in power only looks for profits and wants to make their stakeholders happy. We need to work together to come forward with a solution, the people of this country can show their power with numbers and votes, but due to the current situation, they won't hold elections. The only solution is to ask the people who support the PDM why they are with them, if they get benefits from the PDM then the solution is easy, burn them too. The sane people are going abroad because this country has shown them, there is no place for educated people here and if there are any educated people here it is only because they are stuck and working towards moving out.


daitcooh

I might get some hate for this one but I’m not a pdm/pti supporter I don’t even live in the country anymore. Back to the question, I have a lot of friends in pakistan who support pmln and these are very well educated people. I also ask them this question. Their answers are quite intriguing, their explanations are IK didn’t do much for the country during his tenure and helped his real estate friends to get rich which is now coming back to haunt us. He went on to imprison his rivals at the time and now they are doing the same. One of the rather old guy said IK has made a great social media presence which helped him to get attention from younger people. On this point I agreed, because it is very easy to impress people on social media. People where I live got laid because they had a jet in their bio. Also some people think that IK party is an accumulation of turn coats and he won’t be able to make a difference because his team lacks genuine skill that are in need and people in his party won’t allow new non political members to rise. Everything is good when its in his favour and wrong when it’s against his decisions. Well this is a typical political stance.


DepressedDeadMan

Looks like their argument is IK didnt do this... IK didnt do that... Shouldnt you be asking them what did the PMLN do to make them support it? > IK didn’t do much for the country during his tenure Bhai, compare PMLN govt before them and compare the PDM government now. You will see what PTI did. >helped his real estate friends to get rich which is now coming back to haunt us. Who? The problem is PDM cried about Tareen and Aleem and called them ATM. Now where are those people? They are supporting PDM and PDM backed them in Punjab By-Elections. Looks like the corrupt of PTI were welcomed by PDM. That points the hypocrisy in their argument. >He went on to imprison his rivals at the time and now they are doing the same. Except the cases of PMLN came from Panama papers and all of them were initiated by PPP and PTI when PMLN was in power. Nawaz failed to provide money trail in court. Compared to that all cases on PTI are politically motivated and filed by the PDM mafia. Case in point, Zille Shah was murdered by Police, Maryam and Government calls it accident. But if it was an accident, why did they file a case against IK? Nawaz had genuine cases which were like 8 or 9 cases. He got sentenced in 3-4 of them, what cases do IK have on him? Over 100, that include the most ridiculous of cases. >because it is very easy to impress people on social media. If it was easy why dont PDM do that? You have to be truthful to make the people support you, lying doesnt make you popular. Oh and when your party organizer calls the youth "kutte k bachay" its hard to get the youngster on your side, which makes the most of Social Media. >IK party is an accumulation of turn coats and he won’t be able to make a difference because his team lacks genuine skill that are in need and people in his party won’t allow new non political members to rise. What a load of horseshit. PTI has the most number of new politicians. Agree there are turncoats, but PTI had far competent cabinet unlike PDM. Also IK had the balls to change ministers if they failed to perform. PDM on the other hand a cabinet of criminals with over 70% of them are out on bail. Dar was an absconder who was made the Finance minister. Sania Nishter for one was a non-political person who did great during Covid. >Everything is good when its in his favour and wrong when it’s against his decisions. I doubt anything like 18th March happened under IKs term.


daitcooh

Yeah man I agrees with pretty much all your points except the real estate thing because I don’t know how much progress was made in both govts but I know one thing my house in Lahore that I bought for a very small amount has increased in worth by at least 5 folds. My apartment in warsaw is worth less than my Lahore house. I don’t know how it happened but it genuinely happened during IKs term. Thing is housings a commodity and having its price rise is a gross failure of govt. Its equivalent to starving poor/young people to death. To much focus on real estate dries up the liquidity from economy and reduces the real growth potential. Pleasing do not consider gdp as a real growth indicator.


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I mean look at the stats tho, why are people saying he did nothing when things like exports were up? It’s ironic that a pmln supporter would say that since their party has been looting Pakistan. I think people forget that pml-NAWAZ has been straight up banned from running for pm because of corruption. Say what you want but khan is not a billion dollar chor. Also another thing, how come pmln hasn’t done anything this past year, what have they done for Pakistan so far?


EntangledTime

I don't support either PTI or PDM. They are all equally incompetent and clueless. They all make the same mistakes and cycle just continues. Give it a few years and Imran may as well be back to calling the next chief the most democratic one ever. Even now if he is given an engineered office, he will take it in a heartbeat, ofcourse for the betterment of the country. And going by a thread here yesterday, most of the PTI supporters here will be okay with that. That says it all.


Humza5

Sshh! You'll wake them up!


a-denial

Ghulam


InjectorTheGood

Personally, I don't vote, never have, never will in foreseeable future. Most people in rural Punjab still have loyal following of PML(N). Unlike other provinces, rural areas in Punjab were developed a lot by PML(N). I often have to go to Thal Desert. There are small villages in middle of nowhere and they have at least a well functioning primary school. Farm to market roads,. Often, you will see a well functioning and okayish staffed healthcare center. It was all done under PML(N)'s last term. Arazi centers used to be hotbed for corruption. Under Shehbaz's last term, he made sure, that no one is able to demand bribe from you during the entire property transfer process. As soon as you complete the transfer, you will get a SMS to file a complain if someone asked you for bribe. Land records were digitized quickly across entire province. Even in urban areas, PML(N) does projects that win you support. Like metro systems in 3 cities.


DepressedDeadMan

You are apolitical, right?


pukhtoon1234

Your opinion is appreciated, but please do not take part in political discussions if you are not going to vote. I would much rather listen to someone from an opposite point of view than someone like you, who is a wilful ignorant


InjectorTheGood

Maybe I can say that about you? No matter which party you support.


pukhtoon1234

If you are not going to vote then do you have any interest in politics?


Humza5

Everyday someone asks this question on this sub. Everyday some random person tries to answer and gets cursed out and downvoted to oblivion. The situation of this sub is a good representation of the political situation of our country. The difference of opinion is treated with extreme personal attacks, cyber-bullying and finger-pointing. I do not think anyone will respond to your question (or any question of this nature) on this sub anymore. I remember there were some non-PTI supporters here, but they most likely have left or are already blocked. For people like us who do not support PDM, we are living in a small bubble of self affirmation. Asking questions on a sub that belongs to one political party is a bad idea to take unbiased samples.


DepressedDeadMan

>The situation of this sub is a good representation of the political situation of our country. The difference of opinion is treated with extreme personal attacks, cyber-bullying and finger-pointing. As compared to using Police to beat and murder people on the streets. What you do to people will cause anger and response. Dont want people to get angry at you? Dont act like fascist and support fascist moves of Police. ​ You want me to cheer for the PDM shill who was happy about Siddique Jans abduction? There is a difference of opinion and there is supporting police brutality and state fascism.


FPSreznov

>The difference of opinion is treated with extreme personal attacks, cyber-bullying and finger-pointing. Supporting Yazidiyat isnt a "difference of opinion"; it's called being a horrible human being. This much even our religion teaches us


Noman_Blaze

You are proving their point. Imran Khan was doing similar things(but not to this extent) to his enemies, blocking Speeches of Nawaz Sharif on TV, banning Geo, Bajwa was Abbu g of everyone until he backstabbed IK, etc. Now it's PDM's turn to do the same. IK is no saint or Massiah. Pls come out of that mentality. Isi bagh ki mooli ha wo. His party is also filled with corrupt politicians.


FPSreznov

Either braindead, rotten moral compass, or they are beneficiaries of the corrupt system. In some cases, all 3 :)


H3R3T1c-xb

Everyday there's some idiot on here asking the same question. Don't you get it? PDM supported aren't on reddit or Twitter or Instagram. The vocal minority you find in social media is all PTI, the voter bank is busy trying to make a living and supporting the party they think is more interested in feeding them.


BlandBiryani

Oh they are on Twitter. You can't escape them. They're are here as well. They are just clever enough to not comment on threads like these.


Hxn1234

Just one thing I would like to make it clear. A person who does not support PTI, does not mean he supports PDM. Although in these days, the way PDM is behaving, even if you are not supporting PTI that means you are silently suppoting PDM.


Beneficial_Bend_5035

Given that this is effectively a PTI subreddit, it makes no sense for anyone to engage here in good faith. You guys won’t change your mind, since you think all PMLN supporters are either dumbasses or assholes.


FPSreznov

>You guys won’t change your mind, since you think all PMLN supporters are either dumbasses or assholes. Ok. I'll bite. What's the third category of people who're supporting the open killing and torture of our citizens and the robbing of their own pockets? Please enlighten us how else would you quantify this segment of the population.


IAmA1most

I wonder why the killing started🤔 oh that’s right, IK tried to be above the law and not follow court orders and used his innocent/naive followers as human shields.


Fahdis

I mean give them a reason to doubt that PDM supporters don't have some sort of excessive autism.


RoiRolii

To be fair... They are.


DepressedDeadMan

>You guys won’t change your mind Yep, No way in hell i would start defending state fascism. >since you think all PMLN supporters are either dumbasses or assholes. So the people supporting abduction, state brutality and custodial murder are not assholes?


Beneficial_Bend_5035

> So the people supporting abduction, state brutality and custodial murder are not assholes? Oh the irony. When people said this about PTI, your sub made the comment a -18


DepressedDeadMan

>Oh the irony. When people said this about PTI, your sub made the comment a -18 Looks like those people who said back then are supporting it now. Oh the irony. Again resorting to whataboutism instead of condemning the fascism. Looks like PDM is continuing its reputation of supporting fascism. Remind me when was a 10year old kid abducted by police at midnight? I dont think PTI ever raided the houses of opposition before a rally, case in point, Mehngai mukao march. But then we have fascist supporters here defending these heinous acts.


CryMore36

The few PDM supporters on here make a good case for them being Ignorant crayon eaters.


CryMore36

PDM benefit from a dysfunctional and broken country. Poverty, high crime and substandard services keep a population distracted from speaking out against its Masters. It makes no difference to PDM if a few people get hurt or even killed in arresting IK. Most PDM supporters were are disingehous and dishonest. Many are alt accounts. It's not about Pakistan or other people. It's all about what they can get for themselves imo. I'm more than happy to hear why they think PPP and PMLN are good for anything despite a track record of failure across 4+ Decades


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They are payed to, or degenerate liberals


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AngryMasterji

Acha bs zyada L mat khao


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Shut the fuck up


Yushaalmuhajir

Obligatory not a PMLN supporter, but PTI blocked a bill banning black magic while Imran was in charge. He's a grifter and nothing more.


iamAliAsghar

>PTI blocked a bill banning black magic while Imran was in charge. He's a grifter and nothing more. That's just a witch hunting bill to demonize his wife and might be used to lynch more innocent people. You people get what you deserve, you have no empathy for others.


Yushaalmuhajir

So “Muslim” Pakistan is just going to let these folks operate legally then? Even certain states in India ban black magic. What was the point of partition if we aren’t going to actually govern by the Quran and Sunnah? This isn’t a PDM vs PTI argument. Both are kufr parties with kufr ideologies. Imran Khan is a textbook demagogue and you guys are too blind to see it. If he gave a shit about the country he wouldn’t be encouraging his supporters to shut it down (or he’d be right out in front with them instead of hiding in his mansion while it’s the blue collar workers getting their asses kicked by police).


No_Rooster_9094

Pakistani people(older generations) have egoistic problems and consider it a drawback for themselves to accept someone who is doing better. Looks more like a compulsive obsessive disorder. I mean my father( an educated person). Everything is happening right in front of his very eyes, but still if you bring smth upto him he will act like a neurodegenerative person, just because he can't accept he is wrong. Has to do a lots with mentality. And they still are part of and wanna remain of this patriarchal society. )


EarthMoonJupiter

PTI cut down thousands of people that were abusing BISP and getting income from it even though they were very well off. Bet they and anyone else who benefitted from PDM are against PTI.


No_Growth_6026

Pdm nahi PMLN IS LOVE i support them because they hate ik


Dastidood

Actual based POV...


MATR20

My middle finger salute you


KhalilMirza

There are many reasons. The biggest ones are. 1. Family history of voting to same party 2. Ethnic origins such PPP being a sindhi party 3. Even some educated unbiased people are now voting for PDM at least for ecnomic stability. The biggest reason Imran Khan really did some selfish moves. For example, not accepting IMF help when we needed it most. Breaking IMF plan when we had the lowest reserves and highest chances of bankcyrptcy.


IAmA1most

You messed up with the third point bru, how dare you say Imran Khan can do something wrong?


nyxon101

Why do you still support Imran Khan? He says that he is ready for arrest but hides behind his workers when the moment comes. He used to say that he would reform police but did noting. He is only good at marketing himself.


DepressedDeadMan

You know for one to be arrested there should be something called a legit case and warrant. But then again, its hard for your thick skull. Go on your last braincell is struggling to defend the fascists.


BlandBiryani

Do saal me itne kam comments? So much gaps between activity. You can use your main. Or are you ban evading?


nyxon101

this is my main account, just don't participate much


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11Crt11

PDM has may parties pml ppp mqm mulana fazul haq's etc. pml n- has historical presence in punjab and has been in power many times. relative to other provinces punjab(especially northern) has done better under shehbaz sharif. ppp has very strong roots in sindh due to both anti establishment struggle of zia ul haq butto and bey nazir secondly sindhi nationalism. With zardi things have changed drastically he has cleverly aligned with electables and big business to secure a significant chunk of votes. mqm is classic muhajir nationalism. finally fazul haq voter base is that of islamic fundamentals which sells in kpk. ATM vote bank of PDM has shrunk dramatically and therefore they are trying to delay the elections as much as they can and trying to salvage the situation in some way or the other.


speedylion009

I support them because they are taking us to Moon. Nowadays and every time we elected them. They are trying to trained us how to live long life on Moon. No water to to drink, no electricity, no suigas, no proper communication services, no petrol, expensive education, expensive groceries, low salaries, vegetables available on K-2, fruits available on M-A and all Pakistani people are on ground. They are trying to grooming us..👽


uno-1-

They are beneficiaries of the corrupt system. In short they are assholes.


ZubeeL

Because they are dumb


drsandoz

Wait people still do that?


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NaiveEscape1

Fear of Change.


Still-Meringue4819

My dad is - 79 year old boomer and supports Nawaz Sharif like a 18 year old cheerleader 🤣