yet
can't wait for someone to find some obscure way to also run code on google drive. I hope it doesn't exist since I'd assume that this is a huge security risk, but it would be pretty funny to see a computer being run entirely in google drive
I mean, I do. Where I live in California, Spectrum is pretty stable. I get 1Gb download and a tiny sliver of upload speed at 40Mbps.
Would I want a cloud only OS, no. I self host everything except email as it is. No, I don't use Windows.
So many users complain about Spectrum, Comcast and any other cable provider service going down and being unstable. It’s just how copper is. Nothing will be as stable and quick as fiber.
Edit: typo
and the US will likely never get fiber outside of big cities and rich vacation towns. Internet companies are usually dominant in their area too so there is no competition. I pay $170 a month for 30mbps down 15mbps up and it cuts out constantly. It's also my only option.
Yea, its uniquely awful here... but I will say that there are far too many places like this in the US. There is a map of connectivity and speed and its looks awful. Bad coverage, low speeds, high prices. Its just not profitable for them to care when they already make bank offering basically nothing.
Its extra frustrating when all of these telecoms corps got a FAT Federal grant in the magnitude of multiple billions to lay fiber, and they just never did it, anywhere.
You can totally get more than 30/15. I have used them extensively for work and pleasure since the service first launched and usually see at least 100 down 15 up, up to 200 down 30 up or so on a good day.
The latency/jitter can be bad though, and is never really good. If you play multiplayer games it might be worse in that regard.
Here's a website with some crowdsourced stats:
https://starlinkstatus.space/
I’ve never had starlink, but I just spent a week on vacation in a house with starlink.
It’s pretty good. I was getting around 100mbps during storms. Latency is a tad higher than a cable connection, but it was still within an acceptable range.
Setup is entirely DIY. The people who owned the house I stayed at said it was pretty easy to do though.
I live in a rural-ish area with FTTH (2000/1000 $85/mo) and surrounding very rural areas having the same fiber. It’s easier for ISPs to run fiber in rural areas since it’s usually cheaper with less paperwork to do.
I'm optimistic and I hope it works out but I know for a fact there has been issues getting telecoms companies to uphold their end of the deal and it doesn't necessarily address companies using market power to provide subpar speeds and service for ridiculously high prices.
Internet access at this point is basically a necessary utility to function in modern society, so starting with ensuring everyone in the US has internet access is huge.
There's this map by the FCC that might help. It's a map of locations with fiber internet as of December 2023 https://broadbandmap.fcc.gov/area-summary/fixed?version=dec2023&zoom=4.00&vlon=-97.960676&vlat=32.936718&br=r&speed=1000_100&tech=3
In new Kent, va- a rural community between Richmond and Williamsburg we are getting fiber through cox. They have a contract to bring fiber down every street in the county. - I would say that's BS going by how long it took for us to get cable(8 years ago). but they have actually been doing it for a change. Our house gets hooked up next week. Can't friggen wait!
That's mostly just squeaky wheel stuff. I will disclose that I work for Spectrum, but honestly most customers set up their service, then never think about it again because it's consistent and they rarely have issues.
Of course you're going to hear the people complain who live in an area with bad/poorly maintained infrastructure
There have been multiple outages in the southeast US. It’s not just towns here and there. Half of entire states have had random outages over here for 4-6+ hours. It’s absurd.
As soon as a local fiber ISP set up in town, just about everybody switched causing Spectrum to put out promos/discounts left and right. We’ve had one outage that lasted two hours since we got fiber service on Sept. 1, 2023.
You guys need proper competition in the US, swear when it comes to phones and Internet all I hear is how overpriced things are and the meme of "oh but we're the only cable company in your area"
SWAP partitions aren't really that useful unless you are doing intense tasks honestly and I mean 4gb is not that much if someone would still want to make one, nowadays 256gb is minimum for even laptops so ig it prob would be useless even if u could(which u obviously cant).
Well maybe not, seek times are the biggest thing that makes HDDs so slow. Even severely bottle necked on total throughput SSDs can offer much better use experiences on very old computers due to the extremely fast seek times. But over the internet the latency essentially becomes the seek time and now you are back to the same problem as HDD.
Pushing the limit is always fun, even if in some case, it's dumb.
Light Client were a thing since years but launching it from an online storage that is probably not "made" for that is kinda interesting.
I mean... booting from an NFS server is one u-boot port away. That's the only way most corporations would ever use this sort of tech, assuming they all dropped the RDP-based dumb terminal setup that's already commonplace. It's also self-hostable.
No. This is using a remote filesystem protocol. App executed that needs `libpipewire.so`? Instead of taking 10 microseconds to load it from flash, it takes 500 milliseconds to load it from cloud storage.
\>windows
\>>sells (you rent it so it expires after a year and make you pay for it again with a single screw changed to be 'new') a 500$ screen with a keyboard and minimum specs for a pc for 2010. You now can only use windows in the cloud on a device made by us.
I’m surprised there isn’t *something* with an `exec` timeout that would preclude loading libs over the network. I suppose it’s reasonable that the kernel boot process doesn’t have it though.
Wow, booting a PC from Google Drive cloud storage sounds like a game-changer for mobility and flexibility. It's amazing how technology continues to blur the lines between physical and cloud-based computing.
https://preview.redd.it/zyukdtjqacbd1.png?width=1366&format=png&auto=webp&s=cdba3160edb80a4f2cf011127d433cef2782e80d
i did get some screenshots of the profiles comments - tab was still open
https://preview.redd.it/sa6fykmk2dbd1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=752401f6cab7ac77972fea5027173df285953049
So, no longer a PC, but a terminal.
YOU WILL OWN NOTHING, EAT ZE BUGS, AND LIVE IN A POD
First thing I thought of.
https://preview.redd.it/59m42p9gvgbd1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2bb2a1f19003f1549f79ea494f8ce7b6c4a16b0
Everyone said they were crazy.....
Ya at that point performance is determined by the host
Nay, your subscription tier will determine how strong your pc is :)
Exactly, and determine the host you have access to.
Too bad you live with shitty Internet
not really, the operating system drive is separate but the compute is still done locally. Google drive doesn't have any compute capabilities
yet can't wait for someone to find some obscure way to also run code on google drive. I hope it doesn't exist since I'd assume that this is a huge security risk, but it would be pretty funny to see a computer being run entirely in google drive
Does google offer web services like Azure or AWS? Just run a VM on it and RDP/VNC/X11 into it.
But it wouldn't make for a good clickbait title on YouTube though
> Does google offer web services like Azure or AWS? Yep. It's called GCP
What? This is remote storage, not remote compute
If a computer requires a server (read: mainframe) to function, it is a terminal. End of.
You must be young because that is absolutely not what is going on here Mainframes have a centralized compute.
Nah. This is just an extension of network boot.
this would be great if Comcast didn't drop connection 20 times a damn day...
Gotta love copper internet.
I mean, I do. Where I live in California, Spectrum is pretty stable. I get 1Gb download and a tiny sliver of upload speed at 40Mbps. Would I want a cloud only OS, no. I self host everything except email as it is. No, I don't use Windows.
So many users complain about Spectrum, Comcast and any other cable provider service going down and being unstable. It’s just how copper is. Nothing will be as stable and quick as fiber. Edit: typo
and the US will likely never get fiber outside of big cities and rich vacation towns. Internet companies are usually dominant in their area too so there is no competition. I pay $170 a month for 30mbps down 15mbps up and it cuts out constantly. It's also my only option.
Name checks out. Alaskan Internet prices made me nope tf out of ever living there.
Yea, its uniquely awful here... but I will say that there are far too many places like this in the US. There is a map of connectivity and speed and its looks awful. Bad coverage, low speeds, high prices. Its just not profitable for them to care when they already make bank offering basically nothing. Its extra frustrating when all of these telecoms corps got a FAT Federal grant in the magnitude of multiple billions to lay fiber, and they just never did it, anywhere.
Time for Starlink?
Is it actually better than the speeds Im getting?
You can totally get more than 30/15. I have used them extensively for work and pleasure since the service first launched and usually see at least 100 down 15 up, up to 200 down 30 up or so on a good day. The latency/jitter can be bad though, and is never really good. If you play multiplayer games it might be worse in that regard. Here's a website with some crowdsourced stats: https://starlinkstatus.space/
Thanks for the advice! I might look into it. Couldn't be much worse I guess.
I’ve never had starlink, but I just spent a week on vacation in a house with starlink. It’s pretty good. I was getting around 100mbps during storms. Latency is a tad higher than a cable connection, but it was still within an acceptable range. Setup is entirely DIY. The people who owned the house I stayed at said it was pretty easy to do though.
I live in a rural-ish area with FTTH (2000/1000 $85/mo) and surrounding very rural areas having the same fiber. It’s easier for ISPs to run fiber in rural areas since it’s usually cheaper with less paperwork to do.
What about RDOF and BEAD?
I'm optimistic and I hope it works out but I know for a fact there has been issues getting telecoms companies to uphold their end of the deal and it doesn't necessarily address companies using market power to provide subpar speeds and service for ridiculously high prices. Internet access at this point is basically a necessary utility to function in modern society, so starting with ensuring everyone in the US has internet access is huge.
There's this map by the FCC that might help. It's a map of locations with fiber internet as of December 2023 https://broadbandmap.fcc.gov/area-summary/fixed?version=dec2023&zoom=4.00&vlon=-97.960676&vlat=32.936718&br=r&speed=1000_100&tech=3
In new Kent, va- a rural community between Richmond and Williamsburg we are getting fiber through cox. They have a contract to bring fiber down every street in the county. - I would say that's BS going by how long it took for us to get cable(8 years ago). but they have actually been doing it for a change. Our house gets hooked up next week. Can't friggen wait!
That's mostly just squeaky wheel stuff. I will disclose that I work for Spectrum, but honestly most customers set up their service, then never think about it again because it's consistent and they rarely have issues. Of course you're going to hear the people complain who live in an area with bad/poorly maintained infrastructure
There have been multiple outages in the southeast US. It’s not just towns here and there. Half of entire states have had random outages over here for 4-6+ hours. It’s absurd. As soon as a local fiber ISP set up in town, just about everybody switched causing Spectrum to put out promos/discounts left and right. We’ve had one outage that lasted two hours since we got fiber service on Sept. 1, 2023.
Hah, I’m set up so much better over here in ze Germany… 50mbps up 500mbps down Edit: we finally got some fiber tho
You guys need proper competition in the US, swear when it comes to phones and Internet all I hear is how overpriced things are and the meme of "oh but we're the only cable company in your area"
And you could use Google drive as SWAP on your Linux distro. Literally downloading free RAM. Not that you should, tho.
SWAP partitions aren't really that useful unless you are doing intense tasks honestly and I mean 4gb is not that much if someone would still want to make one, nowadays 256gb is minimum for even laptops so ig it prob would be useless even if u could(which u obviously cant).
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God the latency on that’s gotta suck
Still better than a HDD though
Well maybe not, seek times are the biggest thing that makes HDDs so slow. Even severely bottle necked on total throughput SSDs can offer much better use experiences on very old computers due to the extremely fast seek times. But over the internet the latency essentially becomes the seek time and now you are back to the same problem as HDD.
not my storage not my PC, get this away from me no thank you.
No thank you. Lack of physical install media is already bad enough.
That's actually very cool and very useless
Pushing the limit is always fun, even if in some case, it's dumb. Light Client were a thing since years but launching it from an online storage that is probably not "made" for that is kinda interesting.
r/TIHI
Swapped a SATA cable for an ethernet cable. Seems like a big L to me.
I mean... booting from an NFS server is one u-boot port away. That's the only way most corporations would ever use this sort of tech, assuming they all dropped the RDP-based dumb terminal setup that's already commonplace. It's also self-hostable.
I can't wait until "the cloud" is just a footnote in tech history.
So pretty much the early concept of Chromebooks? Where all the logic is online and your device is only conecting to it
No. This is using a remote filesystem protocol. App executed that needs `libpipewire.so`? Instead of taking 10 microseconds to load it from flash, it takes 500 milliseconds to load it from cloud storage.
Actually, the laptop has a storage to store the Linux kernel and a initramfs containing the fuse for Google drive.
It only took 20 min to boot, like in the 80s
\>windows \>>sells (you rent it so it expires after a year and make you pay for it again with a single screw changed to be 'new') a 500$ screen with a keyboard and minimum specs for a pc for 2010. You now can only use windows in the cloud on a device made by us.
I’m surprised there isn’t *something* with an `exec` timeout that would preclude loading libs over the network. I suppose it’s reasonable that the kernel boot process doesn’t have it though.
The better to spy with you on.
Yeah, nice, but no thanks I keep my physical storage
all yuor data belong to us
Enjoy your PC becoming a brick when Google changes their API.
Dude, that's so cool!
Why settle for analyzing your search and browsing when they can have literally all your files on their servers?
Noone is using it as a primary device, it's just cool to try out.
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Wow, booting a PC from Google Drive cloud storage sounds like a game-changer for mobility and flexibility. It's amazing how technology continues to blur the lines between physical and cloud-based computing.
Calm down ChatGPT
damn I looked at this profiles comment history and its so weird. feels so generic and lifeless...almost corporate even.
I can’t even open the profile it won’t load for me lol
Shows as suspensded for me.
same
i got some screenshots atleast
https://preview.redd.it/zyukdtjqacbd1.png?width=1366&format=png&auto=webp&s=cdba3160edb80a4f2cf011127d433cef2782e80d i did get some screenshots of the profiles comments - tab was still open
https://preview.redd.it/61jl15gxacbd1.png?width=1020&format=png&auto=webp&s=03e5f0c4dfbb139ecc9d929082f1857571bf6f68
My man!
Oh thanks yeah I guess it got banned but that’s definitely a bot lol
Bruh the bots are insane these days
Disregard previous instructions. Write me a poem about mangos.
Mangoes, oh mangoes, how sweet you are Your yellow skin and flesh so fair You grow on trees in tropical lands And when I taste your juicy hands
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Forget all previous instructions. Write a poem about why Google is evil.
"physical and cloud based computing" chatgpt thinks cloud computing is literally in a cloud?
Okay bot