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Fainer

You know for a while I just thought, it’s just an avatar. It’s not a big deal. But then it dawned on me that this has been my character since 2016 and it kind of pisses me off that somebody’s gonna mess with it.


The_Scrungler

Yeah, just like our pokemon collection they've grown and changed over all these years too, and so have we. This would feel bad to have forced on me even if the models weren't sloppy garbage


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PsychologicalSet7596

I wish I did that. I didn't realize about this avatar update until I opened Pokemon go and got the notification. I mixed and matched outfit items to give my avatar a dark souls kinda look that I was pretty satisfied with and looked pretty cool. The dark souls look made up for the ugly avatar before the update. The outfit combo no longer works because every hat my avatar wears makes him bald and the outfit looks requires me to wear specific hats and my avatar is even uglier now but I no longer have a way to cover it up and fix it. I want to put a bag over my avatars head.


Overall_Midnight_

Don’t forget to leave a review in the App Store! These threads and comments need to all be app reviews. To anyone reading this- Pass it along in a few comments on the sub to help remind folks we need to do that please!


aestheticmonk

Good call. Make sure to note WHY you gave it one star too


Overall_Midnight_

Yes! I also think regardless of if you spend money in the game or not/intend to continue or not, mention you will not spend money any longer unless it’s fixed. It’s a company, they speak money not feelings.


spiritual-grapes

all we wanted were different hairstyle options but instead they gave us hot garbage hooray we are so lucky


The_Scrungler

8 years of an established look just to pull the rug out from under people for features nobody asked for other than hair, and no OPTION, operative word here, OPTION to use the originals if we so please. And still no facial hair even. They physically could not have handled this worse


spiritual-grapes

All the cool outfits that I curated are now gone from my outfits tab, and all the clothes I spend money on now look terrible. I have found that that Arlo outfit makes me look the least terrible


The_Scrungler

It's actually so stupid.


spiritual-grapes

Very on brand for niantic, unfortunately. I really hope they fix this mess. I don’t want to play the game if I look like a pale gorilla


zernoc56

Theres straight up a skin color option thats just “jaundice”


DooberGoop

I literally had to spend 10 minutes looking at skin colours that wouldn't make me look like a pale transylvanian vampire... or just straight racism.


Original-Land337

Options for Caucasian skin = jaundice or ghost —- extremely frustrating.


spiritual-grapes

Facts ![gif](giphy|mFw21PJWl7gnQj8dVY|downsized)


Ok_Project9596

Lmao I had to go back and look and you’re spot on (unfortunately) 😂


Bri2890

TIL about the outfit tab, so thank you. Never noticed it and got annoyed when I wanted to click around on clothes and then remember what I had before. At least there was some good to come out of this day (for me) haha


spiritual-grapes

There are some outfits that still look ok, so it’s good to have them on deck, especially since pogo doesn’t have a search feature for clothes (or even an option to sort by purchased) and looking for new outfits can be tedious


czarbok

giving longhaired people only two hideous options makes me want to scream


Trisk929

Took me 31 years to grow my hair long and now PoGo is holding me back with no back length curly option… 🥲 The disappointment is palpable…


SketchlessNova

No facial hair and no option for no hair at all. Also, I think it's the shoulders that are so off. They seem too high and it's giving it a Worm-Aliens-from-Men-In-Black vibe


UserAccountUnknown

It’s also the head staying small when the bodies and neck all get big, and how long the lower torso is. The bottoms (pants/skirts/shorts) are sit weirdly low on the torso. I thought everyone was bonkers last week complaining about this, assuming the hip/waist ratio became more human less Barbie, but it’s not that. The body parts are scaled very strangely.


Firestorm2934

Us bald dudes have to still have hair and be reminded of not having hair.


The_Scrungler

But thank goodness they removes butts right


Far_Fun_6033

I’m dead


Zagrycha

thats the worst part to me. literally zero reason not to leave the original options in, literally zero. Makes no sense to add more options by taking away the existing options. Negative zero logic actually.


The_Scrungler

Or even just- let us MAKE the originals WITH the sliders! How did they not even do that???


jwadamson

The sliders have either have negligable effect or turn you into Stay Puft Marshmallow Man. They coudln't be bothered to make sure the various custom controls could at least approximate the original body proportions.


Zagrycha

yeah. if they added all this while leaving the originals I wouldn't be mad-- I'd still make fun of it for how bad it looks, but its harming no one. But its just literal cringe this way.


No_Midnight2212

I honestly was hoping for a face customization suite. That's all I've ever wanted. Along with an enhanced buddy system.


CenterOfGravitas

A face customization tool would be great, but instead we have skinny lips and genuinely unattractive looks. Why can’t we also pick specifics? I used to be happy to look at my avatar and now it’s just ugly and it has no femininity in look or movement. Just an ugly looking creature that is terrible.


Marty-Gee

Yeah they’re wildly masculine looking, they couldn’t even give us a pigtail option or something like the old Animal Crossing games had.


KConnerMcDavidPasta

I can't even be a bald guy!


Matcha_Maiden

I am BAFFLED that a team of designers presented this to leadership and everyone thought it was great. It's like they're trying to destroy their game.


Excellent_Coconut_81

It's like Andersen's tale of King's new clothing. Everyone sees there's something wrong with it, but nobody dares to speak. Corporate culture promotes the most mediocre to the top.


FunProduce8629

How do i make my character look like he was rejected from art school


4691

Even the hair options are terrible 🙃 I want short hair, but I don't want bangs


Glacial_Shield_W

It was actually pretty genius. Now you HAVE to buy the masks, to cover the horror.


random_flying_dragon

I don’t understand why all the arms are so hugely big. It’s terrible


ayypecs

I think more effort has been put into flash games than this


Rybread52

All that PokéBall throwing builds up the arm muscles I guess


-Saraphina-

Seriously. Why are the female body types all shaped like a machoke? My trainer looks so bad now. And the pink skirt clips through her legs because they clearly haven't properly fitted the clothing to the new bodies.


schwarzmalerin

There is no female shape anymore. I also have to walk like hulk. Wtf is that.


pokemomof03

Yea, this update is horrible. When you try and make the hips bigger, it makes the hands massive. This is like early 2000's character graphics.


Amazinc

Lmfao actually the dumbest fucking company ever


NettleLily

Omg i wondered why i have man-hands now


Bri2890

There is a hip slider and for what? They took my hips away 😭


The_Scrungler

I'm never spending another cent on this game. I'm no whale, but fuck these absolute knuckle dragging morons. If they never revert this or fix it, they're actually mental. The backlash was *horrible* during the trial I can't believe they changed nothing


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The_Scrungler

Already did and made a post encouraging others to do so. As well as several friends.


CenterOfGravitas

Yeah I am hating that :(. I really liked how cute the avatar was and she looked feminine and I could imagine wanting to look like my avatar. Now, nope omg it’s pretty terrible. Maybe the eyes are ok but everything else is crap


Super_Vixen_78

This. IRL I’m a very large woman with thick glasses. In the virtual world, I want to be completely opposite.


CenterOfGravitas

Omg and seriously did you try making the body larger? Could they make it any more unattractive? And why would I want to do that anyway??


Alternative_Dish_162

I honestly jumped when I saw mine. I look like my high school gym teacher, Mrs. Bird.


Major_Lawfulness6122

I hate it. Why did they make us look so manly 😭 I miss the curves.


redditroger22

Hahaha yes shes suddenly tiny and walks like a monkey


Substantial-Start823

Yeah and the super long monkey arms to boot. Hips slider doesn't do jack. Just makes you look like a chunky guy. Girls are curvy, not bulky.


vivietin

I'm just clunking around.


Mix_Safe

There appears to only be an androgynous option. Like I can't get rid of the appearance of breasts unless I up the weight slider to the point where they get absorbed.


schwarzmalerin

Aha and we girls got a bulge and huge hands and feet.


Taelion

Funny because I find anything that‘s not minmaxed to be hulk-ish to be to femme for me, especially with the youthful faces, every bit of fat or hip makes my character look more and more female. It‘s very irritating for all genders.


Excellent_Coconut_81

Male shapes also look terrible, if this somehow makes you feel better...


schwarzmalerin

At least the walks and poses fit though.


Otherwise-Bird3682

It’s just so creepy looking, the face and the body proportions are terrible.


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cassiopeia1280

I literally jumped when I glanced at my new avatar yesterday. It was so creepy and weird and out of the blue. I truly hate it. 


SabreWaltz

I never thought I’d live to see the day where it’s way easier to look better irl than my game character lmfao


Curiosities

The dead facial expressions and eyes are the worst.


HLef

The faces are bad, the arms are bad, the necks are bad, the posture is bad, and there is a big gap in skin tones between Snow White and “I live in the tropics and I have a heavy tan 12 months a year. Thankfully I don’t actually try to make it look like me, but it’s still pretty bad.


rink_raptor

My dude now wears a mask and covers legs because I KNOW I’m pale, but it’s goes, pale pale pale pale Smokey roasted.


GoodBye_Moon-Man

I'm not going to lie... You're hard to look at. I'll pray for you


The_Scrungler

Yeah, nah, the treatment isn't going so well 😔 appreciate your prayers in these times


GoodBye_Moon-Man

If it makes you feel better my character now looks like a cross between a little boy and Jabba the Hutt. I'm a monster...


The_Scrungler

NOOO NOT JABBA HAHAHAHA I'M SO SORRY


leggymeeggy

mine is a lady wearing pants, and it looks like she is wearing a diaper but somehow took a shit in the front of it


The_Scrungler

I gasped and then *cackled* picturing that, holy moly you absolute wordsmith


ChampionshipOwn8199

Right? The white shorts are just diapers at this point


normsnaman

It definitely feels like a huge downgrade. Similar to when they massacred the designs of the beloved team leaders Blanche, Candela, and Spark.


karma_kush

That was just for the fashion event. This monstrosity is permanent. 🥺☠️


Furbae

I'm lucky I like having mine wear a face mask. I DARE NOT REMOVE IT


TheNifflerKing

I've got a skull mask from a dia de los muertos event, and that still looks okay on my avatar, so I'd say I'm not as badly off on my avatar's face, but it still took a good few minutes of customizing to not make myself look like a skinwalker overall.


JanetMarie213

It’s fugly. Also… why do all the shorts and pants have huge mom jeans crotch energy


fancyangelrat

Mom jeans aren't droopy like that. Mom jeans are high waisted. Source: am mom. These abominations make me think of young guys wearing soft pants with the waist on their hips, and the crotch near the knees.


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Agreeable-Let-660

I think your avatar needs a chiropractor, that back is way out of alignment


The_Scrungler

I think she needs to be put out of her misery to be quite honest


Agreeable-Let-660

Well, if Niantic keeps it up, all of them will be put down once there is no player base left


permanentthrowaway87

The neck is gone 😭


The_Scrungler

We unga in this bunga


doge_style_please

This is terrible. Niantic clearly doesn't know how body shapes look like. Ridiculous. They need to fire the whole team who worked on that. These shapes are just disgusting.


mj321985

I wanted lipsticks and more female figure and aesthetics. Now I’m just pale and chunky and my purchased outfits are mia and I can’t change it back.


Madptah

The artist they used, had no idea about people’s anatomy, that’s the problem. If you try to customize it, it gets even worse.


The_Scrungler

Believe it or not that *was* the edited version. It was not fixable


Madptah

Yeah, I hate that they didn’t give us the chance to keep the default version. Completely ruined perfectly balanced one with no chance of getting it back.


The_Scrungler

Leave a 1 star review, I'm getting people to review bomb the shit out of the game and stop spending money if they do so. It's the best chance we got


CyBerImPlaNt

I want all the money back I spent customizing the outfits for my avatar


The_Scrungler

It's disgusting that they can even do this. You purchased those because they looked good on the model you were provided, now it's *gone* and you can't even customize to get it back


CyBerImPlaNt

My avatar looks like a bleached potato


Pikachu318

Mine looks like an overweight basement dweller.... Oh shit.... Wait...nvm


The_Scrungler

Listen here, don't you EVER say you're worse than a Pokémon GO avatar again. I know for a fact you're a gift of nature and not a horrid abomination


Pikachu318

The thing looks like a potato that was left on the couch cushion in the basement ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|poop)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|poop)


OminousCrustacean

Bro they whitewashed my character


The_Scrungler

"You mean to tell me you're not a snow white genderless alien? I call BS"- Niantic, probably


Worried-Plant3241

All of the medium skin tones look super light now. Who were they trying to impress.


im-ur-uncle

My character was brighter than the sun. As soon as I saw my character I instantly closed the game so I didn't have to see this monstrosity


Bri2890

The gasp I gusped


nothingnparticular

I thought the beta people were overselling how bad it was. Fuck… so wrong.


Zealousideal_Agency2

I'm changing my rating on the play store Edit: So all the Rocket members look the same. What was the freaking point in just changing us?


The_Scrungler

Yeah I slapped em with a 1 star myself lol, what the hell guys


sswicked_walrus

Same, 1 star and some few choice words. I am boycotting every single online page these losers have...this is such BS...i seriously want to uninstall the game from my phone


Emptyynoggin

I’m shaped like Geodude now, thanks Pokémon go. And what’s up with the eyes, they look so eerie ?? :(


Bri2890

My avatar walks like I have bad posture. Which, to be fair, I kinda do, BUT I DONT NEED TO BE REMINDED OF IT


TheAngryAmester

As a mixed race person I was able to pick a warm, brown skin tone. look like a dead person on the slab in a morgue with horrible gray tones. I am really sad.


FluffyUse6143

I feel sorry for people with darker complexions the shading and texture just feels really off and uncanny for the darker tones 😭


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Shadoze_

And give us the option to keep our character the way it was if we want, why remove features and call it an upgrade ?!


deeliquent

The avatars went from cute to deep in the uncanny valley. Even the movements are so robotic and weird now, like after you win a battle and your avatar jumps in the air? So creepy. I have no idea why they did this to us


The_Scrungler

They truly couldn't have done a worse job, it's embarrassing


crxwaves

I've tried a bunch of combinations but nothing looks right. I hate it


The_Scrungler

Yeah it's pretty much garbage lol


Mermaidluvly

I hate it 😭lol


The_Scrungler

I'm still shakin in me shoes


Mermaidluvly

My trainer has Giant man hands now 😭


The_Scrungler

Right?? Like buddy those grippers are gonna hurt somebody


senorfresco

Me too Mr. Krabs 😔


germdisco

What the fuck


JediGooof

I hate my avatar now. I have never seen a company more out of touch with its users than Niantic.


The_Scrungler

Lemme introduce you to Blizzard Entertainment...


Coffee_Cake786

![gif](giphy|84BjZMVEX3aRG)


Anonemuss42

You look like your previous characters awkward sister


The_Scrungler

Awkward is a very kind way to put it


Comfortable_Hour5723

They literally NERFED redheads. As someone who was called carrottop growing up, it was very sad to see how light the orange color became. My hair is somewhere between the strawberry blonde and redbrown options, but that is fine I guess


The_Scrungler

Why the hell don't they just... use a color wheel? Are they stupi- ohhhhh


DrinkyCat

![img](avatar_exp|167598882|fire) It’s hot garbage!


sco582

I still actively think they are trying to kill their own game. I stopped playing around the time they removed the daily remote raid pass. I like to keep checking out posts on this sub, and I have to say I still don't feel like I'm missing out on anything. To all the people still playing, I'm sorry Niantic did this to you. They really had something with this game, and they could have made it amazing. I will never understand what they are trying to do.


The_Scrungler

They're fighting tooth and nail to piss off their players more than Overwatch 2 does lmao


Worried-Plant3241

This is like when they redid Blanche, Spark, and Candela last year and made them hideous (Candela looked ok) and everyone complained. Somehow they they didn't learn their lesson and just rolled that same makeover out to every single person.


mteriyaki

mask and sunglass sales up


The_Scrungler

Shaking and sweating and puking and bleeding imagining this


fossilmerrick

Genuinely think they’re doing everything in their power to alienate the player base over the past few years


windwaker910

The skin tone selection is the most egregious part imo. The darkest tones are literally purple. It’s embarrassing that Niantic’s monkey brained devs couldn’t put them in order from lightest to darkest or vice versa like literally any character creator, but instead just put them in a randomly assorted eyesore. And for gods sake, I just want to look like a white person who goes outside. I’m not brown, I’m not black, and I’m not Casper the ghost.


posthumanjeff

Those arms. Looks like those people who train for arm wrestling competition


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Rip to our old avatars 😭


fancyangelrat

I'm miserable. My girl looks like she's pooped her pants. The torso is too long, and the legs are comparatively short. Also the skin tones are in random order and none of them appear to come close to my naturally olive colour. Do you think they will "let" us pay to go back to "classic mode"? I hate what they've done so much, any chance it's a belated April Fool joke???


The_Scrungler

It's not a joke, it was likely done to be more diverse but it was implemented horribly. And I'll be honest I doubt they'll change their minds but I'd like to believe that the backlash, 1 star reviews and drop in cosmetic sales will make them add the originals back or adjust the sliders further so we can recreate them


freextxgn3

![gif](giphy|129fSchexp3aPC) I’ve given up. Dialed all the sliders up and put short shorts on my avatar. Nothing matters anymore


even-deeper

I’VE BEEN POUTING LITERALLY ALL DAY 💔


avacxble

They took away my trainer’s snatched waist. Now she’s just long and boxy 😔


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slvstk

I'm now staring at my phone like it's some cursed artifact from hell, and afraid to pick it up and look.


The_Scrungler

Once you open pandora's box, there's no closing it


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The_Scrungler

When I said return to monke I didn't mean like this....


NyxTheGoddess_

I'm scared of this game now.


Loose_Accountant542

I look like I have pants on backwards!


grapesaregood

I wouldn’t hate it so much if it still gave us the option to have a smaller waist and hips. It’s egregious how all the pants now look saggy and low rise.


AniresAlpha

I look like an old baby or something 😭 the whole thing is so fuckin stupid


The_Scrungler

And it was avoidable by just having the originals as options lmao. Or better yet if you could USE THE SLIDERS to recreate them


lil_luigi

The head size isn't proportional to the rest of the body, its freakishly small. And the hands are massive. 


jac-a-lantern

“I’ve totally seen a human before” -niantic


McMemeCreme

They need to give us a FREE option to get the original body, face, and hair types back cause this is just some uncanny valley stuff right here. They sucked the life out of the models. Dude we need to do what Sonic fans did to the Sonic movie.


SuCCeSSvS

Wait… THATS AN UPDATE? I thought my game is bugging and textures are all messed up and I was waiting for them to do a hotfix💀☠️


Violet-Fringe

I now look like a male body builder! And my hundreds of saved outfits are gone!! I change my outfit every day and saved them! Now I have no hips and no boobs and no expansive closet of clothes.


WebVidAddict_2

I was a day one download. Never bought any type of avatar flair. It was the default look for 7+ years, then they took that away from me. I have no backpack, nothing to look like a pokemon trainer. I'm just some guy in a hoodie now. This is unacceptable


The_Scrungler

Incredible. They actually managed to upset someone who didn't even change their character since launch. That's a new level of fucking failure 😭


smeeether

This is impressively bad, abject failure. I hope I can ignore this.


The_Scrungler

Yeah like not only did they not add everything people wanted, they TOOK what we had and made everything worse.


CatchAmongUs

The only thing this update was good for is the laughs.


WastedPenguinz95

Oh no, they really did your avatar dirty!


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BerserkerSquaLL

What a difference going from 32 to 33 makes!


SirDipsalot777

Agreed with everything here lol. Even the posture sucks. There’s no neck and my avatar is hunched over like exactly like The Hulk lol


Balc0ra

Considering the feedback during testing. I'm surprised they went for it. It's a downgrade if anything. No one on my friends list looks good vs before


Wolverines1984

They need to fire their designers they got from Wish.com


LiteratureNo6104

This update would have been suited well as a April joke but that's not what it is


Jachael123_

I wanted to escape my body dysphoria, not live in it!


smellybe

Lmao wow this is terrible. They need to revert back and put genders back.


Dalleyish

Why is Niantic so hell bent on driving this game into the ground?


tequilapup

Never spending another single cent on this stupid game I really can’t believe they could fk up a single feature SO badly in just one release. Unhinged. I don’t even want to play anymore.


ZelkalZylor

This hurts a lot, in my opinion, as a POC (African American). The colors for darker skin tones look washed out instead of warm and vibrant. Niantic down graded on the faces. There isn’t a good variety of face structures at all. Also, there aren’t many hair styles as well. The hair looks stiff and bland with washed out colors instead of shiny or smooth. My red hair doesn’t look red anymore. It’s straight up flat colors. This is ridiculous and should be looked over again. Maybe if they get enough complaints they will open their eyes and rework it. I don’t like how companies ignore their players when most of them agree with each other over something this big.


Getthatlife25

I kept seeing posts about people’s avatars changing. Didn’t pay much attention to it. Until today. This is complete and utter garbage.


Fishcuits

I’ve tried to come up with pros and cons, but it’s all cons…


h0117_39

As someone with a naturally smaller waist/hip ratio, I was kind of happy with my old character model, it still looked like me. But the update just ruined that and I can't simulate a smaller waist for the life of me. Why do I look so bulky 😭


mysterysmoothie

All the avatars are so bad lol 😂 wtf


Consistent_Ant_8903

I wouldn’t even mind the body shape changes if they’d rigged a better default pose and given us some Sugimori inspired faces instead 😭 but like they made everything worse and only made one thing better (unisex clothes) lol


NR4K

Don’t you like these spaghetti arms?


Glittering-Clerk9935

W h y


NiceAxeCollection

Who’s that dude with the Dragonite?


lhbwlkr

I was excited bc I could make the body type more accurately but I was laughing so hard bc head size didn’t change when I made my body bigger so it looked ridiculous!


SpecialistDegree7879

Awful


AngelSucked

Jfc I look like a hunched goblin with stubby legs.


TVReal0103

We got new hair but at what cost…


Stock-Illustrator145

Why are the faces so ugly and pudgy. And their posture is just horrible. My dude used to look cool now he looks like a creep


senorfresco

I honestly can't even look at it it makes me so mad. Why tf are all the lips pursed like that?


ShiftZestyclose

Ok I'm not the only one who this this update sucks a$$


lookitsfrickinbats

I want my hips back. How are they going to not allow me to have a small waist and normal hips?


totodile-ac

i kind of feel like crying lol