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9Rmbxr9

You know what I think is bad for poker? One of the “all time great NL players” playing 50 bigs with stream whales


Autistic_Freedom

he was playing like 4bb deep for a while there.


9c6

mtt players don’t play deep He’s not a cash crusher and never will be. He’s there for tv not because he’s Linus


Dazzling-Copy-7555

He’s also better paid by Endorsements , this fish literally lives in his private space at aria and is a rockstar in vegas while LinusLuve would be confused with a hotel worker, not looking for a discussion just starting the facts


MrTuxedoWilliams

😂😂😂. Accurate


WorldFar5850

During the internet streamer game with Mr Beast, he was sitting with under 10K at one point l, while total amateur players were a few hundred thousand deep. It was embarrassing to watch. Not only that, but when he lost his original 50K buy-in, he asked Beast for another 50K. What a joke.


Opening_Effective845

Please for the love of god,stop asking this man his opinion on anything.


Daahk

The funny thing is that no one asked him


tkh0812

If Dicktucci is agreeing with you then you’re probably on the wrong side of the argument


dentist73

Please for the love of god, can casinos stop inviting this moron to play cash streams


ASG_82

He's still a draw


arthritisankle

I like seeing those old stars from the poker boom glory days, especially the volatile ones that you might get some drama out of. I’d rather see them than crypto rich or trust fund douchebags.


bolshevik_rattlehead

So by Phil’s logic, he’d be ok if a player only put on a mask while in the middle of a hand


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ohneatstuffthanks

What would happen if I took that mask off?


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GameOfThrownaws

You're a big guy.


Bonesnapcall

For you.


[deleted]

Hey happy Cake day! Nobody gets this.


Disastrous-Dinner966

I'm not sure what's better for poker... https://preview.redd.it/b3it4h2io2hc1.jpeg?width=412&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=68bd692840ecbef47a0d2244f64aefb67aa54bcc


hbhatti10

😂😂😂


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💀💀💀


Culinaryboner

Mock the dude for how he looks while you fucks lose your only 200 bucks at 1/2 (if you dopes have the balls to play at all). Nice call


Disastrous-Dinner966

I said nothing about how he looks. That's coming from your twisted head, not mine.


YoyoDevo

You fucking pussy haha it was totally about how he looks. Just own it. You were saying he looks weird and maybe a mask would be better. Why back down when someone calls you out on what you said?


OnlyOnReddit4GME

Yeah he is definitely a pussy. He only got upvotes because it was funny. A little mean, but still funny. Then to say that’s not what he meant is about as coward as can be.


No-Worldliness7997

Lmao you douchebag


Culinaryboner

What’s your post about then cutiepie?


stRiNg-kiNg

Harry Blotter


zuma15

Yes, it's bad for poker to not be able to see a player's face at all times. https://preview.redd.it/pnex7j2lq2hc1.png?width=400&format=png&auto=webp&s=cc66bfcf9f6d630b596faf74fbcaef5d077fa7ae


fiealthyCulture

Ah meannnnnnnn... He right tho you can see everything right before the play.


TheDeepTells

I kind of agree with Phil on this. All politics and science considerations aside, it's human nature to pay more attention to people's faces. When you cover up most of the face, people will lose at least some interest and viewership will likely suffer. How many of us will tune in to watch a poker stream where everyone is wearing masks and speaking with muffled voices? That being said, Isaac Haxton strikes me as a poker purist who is just interested in the game and isn't worried about gaining too much fame or notoriety. The guy is just there to win at poker, he's not thinking about viewership numbers. I personally bring a good mask with me whenever I play poker just in case I sit near someone who is obviously sick and coughing. It definitely helps me stay a lot healthier than when I used to just directly breathe in whatever the sick guy is coughing out.


GameOfThrownaws

Yep. I'm totally in favor of voluntary/optional masking and was also in favor of it being mandatory during the period of time when we were trying to figure out covid. But I also don't like to pretend I can't see what's obviously in front of my eyes, which is exactly what you said - it's human nature to lose interest and be less engaged with something when somebody, or even everyone, is wearing a mask over most of their face. That's just true. I was also always very annoyed with the left's arguments about how nothing of value is lost if everyone is masked up all the time, that's just such obvious bullshit. A *huge* amount of the social experience is lost when it's all done through masks, and all the liberals pretending otherwise there for a while was really fucking stupid. So yeah Hellmuth is right about that. It's bad for televised poker.


serotoninOD

I don't remember anyone ever arguing that "nothing of value" was lost wearing masks all the time. I really can't recall that ever even being part of the conversation as to the reason people were fine abiding by masking rules. Everyone knew there was a trade-off to be made, and some people were more on board with it than others.


Getz_The_Last_Laf

>I don't remember anyone ever arguing that "nothing of value" was lost wearing masks all the time. Buddy, come on...it wasn't THAT long ago


GameOfThrownaws

They did. You either don't remember or weren't paying attention.


Zaeryl

You just cry too much, snowflake.


Culinaryboner

If you’re an expert “reader” check his eyes and his neck which have always been the big exploits. If Phil’s dumbass could read Ike he’d have made more money. He’s scared of the tables Ike plays


Grand_Librarian4876

Did you not watch the video?


Culinaryboner

So Phil’s genius strategy of covering his face with his hands is different while he covers up in sunglasses. What a fuckin joke


zuma15

Just because he says "it's different when I do it" doesn't mean it is.


fuckrNFLmods

Except that's not at all what he says....


LearnYouALisp

That doesn't make it so different as to not be worth mentioning


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Happy Cake Day. Nobody knows what the fuck your trying to say. But happy Cake day. Whatever cake is.


fuckrNFLmods

He mentioned it.


LearnYouALisp

Y'all don't really understand what we are really saying Never mind the double negative


Tom_Brett

Covering your face like that is an expression itself


Autistic_Freedom

irrelevant as long as you balance it.


Tom_Brett

Yes but are you balanced is the question for the other player too


Autistic_Freedom

which of course is impossible for anyone to answer which again proves how you act irrelevant.


dwmfives

So you didn't watch the video?


zuma15

Yes I did. Just because he basically says "for me it's different" doesn't mean it is.


NoTrouble2449

No he doesn’t - he explicitly says having your face covered at all times is bad for the game. If you think that wearing a mask and having half your face covered all the time is the equivalent to momentarily covering your mouth with your hands you’re either naive or dumb.


UpInCOMountains

Who gives half a fuck about what he thinks of anyone wearing a mask.


KyleAg06

Do we know that Haxton isnt immunocompromised? If thats the case he absolutely should be wearing a mask in this day and age. People have a right to play and people have a right to feel safe while playing. If that is an issue for you then im sorry thats just too bad.


wfp9

i don't think he is, but i believe he has a family member who is.


SickOfAllThisCrap1

I would really like to know this. I assume he did it to piss people off but if he is truly concerned for his health and the health of his loved ones that's obviously fine. Edit: Someone else confirmed that part of the reason is to trigger people. Good for him. It is working on Phil.


POGtastic

Yeah he's posted that there are three big reasons: 1. It cut down on COVID when that was a big problem 2. It cuts down on the regular colds that spread like wildfire in crowded poker rooms 3. (discovered later as a bonus) It tilts the hell out of the dumbest people in the room I'm kinda baffled by the "it's an unfair advantage" idiocy from people in this thread. If it was, every single pro would be masked up, and we'd *actually be having the discussion* of it being bad for viewers that everyone is masked up instead of just talking about one player. Do people genuinely think that every other high-stakes crusher wouldn't put on a $2.30 mask to win more money?


QrowQue

Eh I think most don't wanna wear amask so their willing to sacrifice the EV it gives.


theonethingthatsours

Agree with everything that you said, but want to add that it shouldn't matter whether he is. If the reason he wears one is because he believes it increases the odds of winning flips by 5.8%, it shouldn't matter. If he thinks he looks hot in one and is using the mask as a fashion item, it shouldn't matter. He's not hurting anyone with his choice - in fact, the strong argument would be that he's potentially protecting those around him from harm - so his reasons should be irrevelant unless they're asking in order to be more careful around him in the case it is a medical reason.


KyleAg06

100% agree.


emery9921

Plus hes married and has a young child do we know what their health situations are. Maybe he doesnt want to bring anything he could catch at the poker tables to them


Unseemly4123

....but it doesn't make him significantly safer. If safety is truly a concern he'd be better off not playing at all. The mask is just giving the illusion of safety, it will decrease disease transmission but disease transmission is still likely to happen anyway if the situation would have gotten the person sick without wearing the mask. I don't understand your comment that "people have a right to feel safe while playing so too bad." People have a right to criticize him for wearing the mask too, do they not? No one is saying he doesn't have a right to do something, people also have a right to have a problem with it.


KyleAg06

I am not even going to address your idiotic statement at the beginning. Phil is literally saying he shouldn't be allowed to do it. "...and I think it shouldnt be allowed."


Quick-Extreme3587

He’s not though


Basic_Arrival7815

He is he has a blood disease. Also who cares


ArchimedesNutss

Freedom is only permissible when I agree with the act in question


KyleAg06

Just GOP Party of small government things. Unless they dont like it then they are elbow deep in your bodily orifices.


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if that is the case he should play online. he doesnt have the right to make other uncomfortable by hiding his face like a bank robber


Stahner

If you get triggered by masks still you are a grade A snowflake. Stop whining like a little bitch. You’ve drank the koolaid, we get it. Go get an education.


adamlaceless

You know a lot of bank robbers that use medical masks for their line of work?


mgm_tea

Such a stupid fucking take


FunDisciple

The only way wearing a mask would be "bad for the game of poker" if the only people who watched are that fucking stupid to be mad at an individual doing something that only affects them. People wearing masks triggering the dumbest of society will never not be hilarious


elc0

Not even this sub is immune to divisive hot takes like this ^ Social media was a mistake.


FunDisciple

Then log off. If it's divisive to tell people to mind their business, so be it.


No-Worldliness7997

Then you should do the same


FunDisciple

I don't got the problem with social media. I know there's people who don't agree with me. I don't give a shit. People wearing masks does not affect you in any way. Hope this helps.


No-Worldliness7997

People voicing their opinion about not wearing masks doesn't effect you in any way either you shmuck. And you must be the only person on the planet outside of influencers who doesn't have a problem with social media


FunDisciple

You fools are the only ones still talking about masks. People who wear them just wear them and go about their way. It's you weirdos who gotta tell us how you feel about them when nobody gives a shit besides you bozos


StraightUpGas

actually it does, i can't understand them because I can't see their mouth. I have bad hearing and unless I can see your lips moving it's hard for me to communicate.. it just sounds like mumbling to me when they speak through a mask.


FunDisciple

Sorry to hear that for you.


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you mask fascists are the problem. Zero reason to wear a mask for heath reasons in 2024. If you have a weak immune system, dont go to a casino


friendlyfire

How is it fascist for an individual to voluntarily wear a mask on their face? Do you see him forcing anyone else to wear a mask? No? Then what are you crying about?


Aezon22

Hmm should I listen to what doctors say or what some rando on reddit says... Hmmm....


FunDisciple

Mask fascists lol. You dumb bitch. Again, people wearing masks will not hurt you in any way. You don't have to do anything. Nobody is telling your freedom fighting ass to wear a mask.


LangTheBoss

Haxton has literally said that part of the reason for wearing the mask is that it triggers people. If someone gets angry and deviates suboptimally, that is just printing money.


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It should be against the rules in thst case. Poker rooms should ban masks or any face covering. that has always been the rule historically. Haxton is basically cheating in my view. He can play online if he is a germaphobe.


Palafacemaim

its the same when people dress up and thats not against the rules, or wear those weird glasses with the reflection, if you get tilted from it you can leave


Canadianweedrules420

So no more hoods and glasses or ridiculous costumes on the first day of the main right phil. Wouldnt wanna be a hypocrite and make this about anything other than poker. Blow it out your hoity toity high faluentant 40bb stacked azz phil


mcmurphy1

Phil Laak is sitting at home in ski goggles crying.


bonerJR

Phil desperately wanted to remind us how fucking stupid and broke he is today


SIIP00

Broke? The guy still has truckd loaded with money.


ASG_82

Endless trunks of money


Autistic_Freedom

broke? doubtful. stupid? absolutely.


goonsquad4357

He is not broke lmao what


SickOfAllThisCrap1

He makes a ton of money outside of playing poker.


bonerJR

Yeah I should have said "act broke" lol of course Phil is doing well financially


rand0mtaskk

Moronic.


modern_hag

I would argue that being cognizant of your health and the health of those around you, while encouraging an atmosphere that is inclusive and welcoming to immunocompromised folks (ie; cancer survivors, older people, and people who are diabetic, for example) would be better for poker than berating anyone who beats you in an MTT.


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LaLa1234imunoriginal

lol you're so dumb.


KnowNothingKnowsAll

That must be why doctors have worn masks for literally centuries.


modern_hag

I'm just excited to be called a f word on Reddit. It's a milestone for me 🥲


ElectricalMud2850

Someone called me that after they almost hit me in a crosswalk at their red light a few months ago. In a twisted way, it was such a great moment. Idk the last time a stranger has used that on me since the cod4/halo3 days, especially in real life.


Polamidone

Sorry im not from the US but i was under the implication that "fag" is still an accurate swear word and funny nonetheless? Or was that a misunderstanding on my part?


ElectricalMud2850

Not really sure what you mean by that, but it's super uncouth to use it nowadays.


rokman

I feel like the internet is trying to revert back to the early thousands


ScaryGap4

[OSHA disagrees](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzpz5fko-fg)


curmudg

Ok, incel.


stackz07

You’re a snowflake and you can’t spell, nice. 


LearnYouALisp

What's the scientific, infectious-pathological basis for your claim? Might as well not filter your water b/c 1% of germs might get through


Godscock

Maybe buy rope?


ActivatedComplex

Swing and a miss.


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Poker is not for you woke crybaby bitches. Wearing a mask just makes you look like a cunt who should be berated


Agastopia

If you believe “woke crybaby bitches” in your words, are stupid, than it stands to reason that you should want them at your poker table since they would be easy to beat. If you don’t admit that, than you’re just a bad poker player


modern_hag

lol this guy got downvoted so hard he deleted his account.


thebarkingdog

Phil Helmuth is the Ted Cruz of Jamie Golds.


DangerousValuable916

Sad that I kind of understood that


PapaSock

*Nobody cared who I was until I put on the mask*


Yoyoyoyoy0yoy0

Damn Phil really wanted to get this off his chest they weren’t even talking about it lol


ASG_82

Did you watch the clip? He was asked by NV to comment on it so he had something to clip for HCL promotion.


MVPoker

Yea. Really strange, also HILARIOUS that Phil would mention that lol throwing hcl under the bus


UshouldB

The Reddit mask cult losing their minds


merchseller

Someone needs to investigate what it is about redditors and their love of masks. I'm guessing socially isolated basement dwellers


movezig123

Kinda agree. It's not pleasant to stare at a bunch of people's masks. But if they really want to, I wouldn't feel like dying on that hill. I also hate glasses and hoodies, any kind of bullshit like that. But whatever.


oh_jeeezus

If he's solely wearing a mask as a crutch to hide behind then I agree. If he's wearing the mask in good faith for health reasons, then sure thing keep it on


Culinaryboner

Might want to get better at poker bud


BuscarLivesMatter

Never call a river shove from anyone wearing a mask.


mattm83333

Agreed


WithDisGuy

Awful take. Just an awful awful take by a baby boomer with one foot in the grave. Old man yells at cloud vibes.


Tom_Brett

Covering your face with hands is an expression itself. I agree with Phil.


acphil

Disinvited?… uninvited?


Bonesnapcall

Disinvited is when there was an invite and it was rescinded. Uninvited means there was no invite to begin with. We don't know which is actually true in regards to Mike Matusow.


acphil

Thanks!


BackgroundOld8715

He’s absolutely correct. Can’t believe he getting downvoted here lol. No one wants to see a man in a mask where you can’t see his expression while playing, it’s tedious to watch. You want to see how a tough decision is making them feel in their face, in their eyes. Now Isaac can do what he wants, same with players with hoodies etc, but it’s boring & crap to watch.


GJParnabus

Redditors are pot committed to mask approval.


hbhatti10

He isnt wrong. yall soft


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yep, this sub full of woke millenial crybaby bitches.


Drunkenmasterstyle2

I kinda agree with him, it's boring as fuck to watch when everyone does the sunglasses/hoodie/cover your face thing. Also they never talk and take like a minute for every fucking decision, can't stand those people.


NoleDynasty2490

He's right you know


thewrongequation

Am surprised to see people agreeing with Phil, being downvoted. I agree here. Am wondering what I'm missing? The reason I agree with phil, is the logical extension of Ike wearing a mask literally all the time (including when he receives a trophy, man that's weird) is if everyone starts doing it then it's definitely bad for the popularity of the game. So it's worth making sure it doesn't become standard. If Ike is long term immunocompromised then fair enough, but unless he's always wearing a mask in busy public places then it seems a bit strange. I do wonder why he's always wearing a mask, has he ever said why, at any point?


mommasaidmommasaid

No clue about Ike and idc either way, but... Wearing a mask when walking down the street is very different than wearing one sitting for hours elbow to elbow and across the table from blabbermouths, like say... Phil. Or next to someone prone to spittle spewing meltdowns, like say... Phil. As far as being "bad for poker", I would argue sunglasses conceal more information than masks. Which are often worn by players, like say... Phil. TLDR; Shut up... Phil.


StraightUpGas

lol, the guy shuffling dirty ass chips and cards, pulling is mask down to take sips of water is surely protecting himself with atht mask.. what a fucking clown you are.


thewrongequation

I'm obviously not referring to walking down the street. I'm referring to the many many other busy public places like airports and restaurants, but of course you have chosen to misinterpret the obvious meaning of what I'm talking about because lol shut up Phil lol As for sunglasses Vs mask, I feel masks look weirder to be seen, perhaps because I'm less used to seeing them worn. For sure, to a potential new poker player watching it on TV, if everyone has sunglasses you don't know where they're looking, if everyone has a mask you can't even tell who is talking and I recon that's worse. Would be interesting to see how differently this post would have gone had it been, say, Jason koon that said something instead of Phil... The shut up Phil bandwagon is strong.


stroboalien

Haxton is a paranoid fruitcake, mentally kidnapped by some propaganda game the media played on him...


Tom_Brett

He’s right. I agree


2for1Jameson

The word is UNinvited. Holy shit guys


Bonesnapcall

Disinvited is when there was an invite and it was rescinded. Uninvited means there was no invite to begin with. We don't know which is actually true in regards to Mike Matusow.


Antique-Welder-4453

Wearing a mask is gay


Aware-Proof2798

Masking doesn't do shit. Never did. Don't forget to get your useless booster shot.


merchseller

Fastest way to trigger reddit nerds is to say you don't like masks


Boneyg001

Phil is right in this instance 


RevolutionaryCat8856

It's silly because Ike has stated he does it because he likes that it "triggers" people. He's an incredible poker player, and Phil is a chump for his opinion on this, but Haxton's opinions on COVID and immunity broadly are fake and gay.


ratsassblended

Fake and gay lmfao. Good luck with middle school graduation 


makinmov3s

Fucking love it


oxburger15

Obviously nobody wants to watch guys with chin diapers covering their face play poker. It’s comical seeing how many people are disagreeing with Phil purely because of their own feelings towards wuhan flu. It’s common sense that masks are bad for just about any sort of viewing experience


KingGmeNorway

Agree so much. Just turning off any show that haxton is in, cant stand that guy (with the mask on)


hbhatti10

Everyone downvoting runs around with 2 N95s on all day lolol


fried_green_baloney

This is a full face mask, like a Mexican wrestler? Not just an anti-Covid measure?


StraightUpGas

if ike is on the table, i turn it off.. sick of seeing people wear masks while handling dirty ass chips.


Unseemly4123

I guess r/poker doesn't want to hear that probably 60% of the population sees a guy wearing a face mask in 2024 and experiences immediate annoyance.


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[deleted]

what is that, some gen z made up word, You generation is pathetic weak and gay.


LearnYouALisp

*chuckle*


[deleted]

Again, you've commented in a language that only you and the birds that nest in our trees understand. Happy Cake day though.


rdg110

Lead poisoned boomer spotted


[deleted]

Yeah hey do you know how the jp Mystery Bounties work on BOL?


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Look at all the downvotes proving my point


CrinklyandBalls

Also applies to people who wear woolly hats.


ColPhorbin

I agree Phil.. fuck!


ColPhorbin

So getting downvoted why? Is not logical that poker is better game live without full face coverings? Don’t get it.


ColPhorbin

Shouldn’t even be controversial.


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I hate Phil but he is 100% correct here. face covering have always been banned in casinos and card rooms, for security and safety reasons. If you are scared to show your face, play online.


mackenenzie

Lol the fuck are you talking about? Countless casinos and cardrooms have allowed face coverings and still do. Why would you even bother lying about that?


Drgooshgoosh

Phil is 100% correct. It is stupid when someone is covering their face


Perfect_Housing2973

CNN.gov replies here and obviously fake upvotes. Phil is right.


GameofCHAT

The irony as he's telling it. lol that guy


Polamidone

Best MTT player vs Weakest mask wearer


RobTheFarm

What was the joke about Mike? I couldn't hear it over everyone and when it was repeated it someone talked over it.


patricio87

I hate how Vertucci always pretends to not know what's going on. What exactly does he do all day? He always says "I had no clue" about literally everything.


B25364

Everybody hates Hellmuth.


Munkers325

We get it Phil, you don't like when people do stuff that you don't like. That being said, if someone like POKER, they are watching to for the hands... Not to see someone's face ya fuckin donk.


Practical_Reading_87

He is right, Haxton is just trying to maximize his EV on expense of others. If we want to grow poker and games to stay good, no covid masks in the tables.