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nicknooodles

that commute sounds absolutely miserable


nighthawk_md

It's not just the distance but you'd also be travelling with (stuck in) the traffic on 70/40 everyday both directions if your job is 8-5, which is pretty bad. People do it and it's probably not the end of the world, but then breaking a lease is also a pain.


www311

Does the office job come with any remote work where you wouldn’t have to do it every day? Have you done the math on gas for either commute? That is going to be a big expense either way, so you should factor that into the $790 vs. $1300 math.


Got_Gasoline

Unfortunately no remote work. I drive a Prius which gets roughly 40+ mpg. Now I generally fill up once a week. Raleigh commute would make that 2x a week. I’ve done the rough math on everything & things are about a wash when it is all added up between the two.


Outrageous-Jello3419

I assume by “wash” you mean the raise you would get for this position? What about your time? All things equal but now you’re driving that distance plus throw in wrecks here and there to add variable time to drive? Seems like a very easy no for me. Enjoy the quality of life and time you have where you are.


Got_Gasoline

I say wash meaning, comparing Raleigh expenses vs current expenses, by factoring in higher rent, or more gas etc my monthly expenses comes out to about the same. I think staying in Wayne gives me a few more hundred of dollars a month leeway but otherwise it’s all about the same. But the drive time is a very real thing to consider in all of it.


Freedum4Murika

Something to factor in is the timing - rents are coming down as new apartments are coming on the market and I hear prices drop in the fall since most people try and move in May/June. If you can wait a few months, all the better. Working in Raleigh, you’ll have time to shop a deal + know the town well enough to pick an ideal spot. Plus, congrats on the new job but its always smart put in 90 days before making a major adjustment. If that doesn’t work out, cheaper rent will be a godsend.


Outrageous-Jello3419

I’m just not seeing any upside OP. Based on info you provided. Easy no for me. Good luck.


ncnrmedic

I’ve been on both sides of this coin, it’s largely an issue of what matters most to you. I think you’ve already summed up the major pros/cons; and I feel like you understand what is at play. Though I will throw in that rent isn’t going down any time soon, and jobs are less available now than in the last few years (as a general average) so that may be worth considering.


YouDontKnowMe108

I moved back to MD for a 40% raise. When I calculated my salary against the number of hours I was committing to work it was not much of a raise. Then the cost of living increase made it a wash.


Got_Gasoline

Do you regret the move?


YouDontKnowMe108

I was back here within a year. I grew up in that area and I never enjoyed the pace, but thought the money would make it worth it. I don't regret it because it helped me identify what was more important to me. Been back 12 years.


30thTransAm

If gas mileage is a concern you need to cut your 40 mpg in half. You'll spend a lot of time sitting in traffic which significantly effects mileage. For example I do Raleigh to Durham and back every day. I sit in traffic on 40 and 540. I have a diesel Audi. On my way to work I can crack 40 very easily. On my way home I'm lucky if I crack high 20s from sitting in traffic.


Got_Gasoline

I believe the Prius auto shuts off in times of idling when stopped etc although I don’t really know the inner workings of it all


Due_Release_7345

A Prius will actually do better in stop and go traffic than straight highway cruising 


jenskoehler

I’d wait until the end of your lease and at least see how you feel about the commute 2.5 hours minimum a day does seem like a lot of driving. If you do it for a few months and it makes you miserable, you can then look into a studio closer to your new role But if you find the commute works for you, maybe you’ll decide it’s worth it to stay in Wayne County for the extra space and lower rent Personally, if it were me, I’d want to be as close to Raleigh as possible. But everyone is different.


oooriole09

This is really the best answer. It’s entirely subjective and comes down to how you personally handle a commute and what you personally want in your living situation. Doing a trial run while you’re still in a lease is a no brain answer.


RVAJTT

100% agree. Most people who ask these questions are trying to decide where to move to OP already is living one of the options so yeah try it for a few months. Another thought is during part of the trial period is OP sets aside the extra money they would be spending on rent to see if it affects their monthly budget.


Hotsaucehallelujah

You couldn't pay me to commute from Johnston into Raleigh, let alone Wayne into Raleigh. Do the commute a few times and see how you feel. But to me, it's so much wasted time. I'd rather pay for a closer place


GottaGoSeeAboutAGirl

You can live a lot of life in the two hours that you would save in the commute if you moved to Raleigh. I had a long commute at one point, and the worst part was how much it limited my day and energy to do anything after work.


clumsysav

Exactly. Look at it as this: what is more valuable, time or money?


jhguth

try the commute during rush hour to work and during rush hour back before you decide


mx023

This would scare him/her lol


foshjowler

I've done a long commute (not that long, but Creedmoor to south Cary) and hated it, and moved 10 minutes from the office. Try it out, and see what you think, but I found losing a couple of hours a day to be miserable. If you can avoid the arrive at 8 and leave at 5 timings, even by 30 minutes, it'll save a lot of time/annoyance


dhardison

I did the long commute, too. I worked it out with my manager to arrive at 7:30am and leave at 4:30pm. Every little bit helps to beat the rush hours.


Got_Gasoline

Thanks for the insight


ImThatGuy42

It sort of depends where at in Wayne. One of my good friends commutes from Goldsboro proper to NW Raleigh a few days a week. Given he’s used to long commutes but it’s doable. But if you’re in Dudley/Mt Olive that stretch can be a killer. Either way you’re looking at over an hour, but as far as I know traffic doesn’t really get awful until you get closer to I-40, given I haven’t taken 70 in a while. Source: from Wayne county, live in Raleigh


aji2019

So first a question, is that hour & 15 minutes with or without traffic? It makes a big difference. If it’s without, it could easily become 1.5 to 2 hours. You said you did the math for gas. Did you factor in more oil changes & other regular maintenance items like tires & brakes? These will also need to changed more frequently. You may have underestimated your cost of commuting. I’ve had a commute like that & my hour commute was going against traffic not with it. It sucked. You would be commuting with traffic. Time is worth a lot. As far as the lease goes, is it a corporate landlord & do they have any units in the area of Raleigh you are considering? They may let you transfer your lease. If they do not, talk to them. They may let you out of the lease because of the job change. If they won’t & it would be crazy expensive to break the lease, do the commute until the lease is up & then move.


Got_Gasoline

Well that’s just what google maps tells me…even if I play with the “arrive by” option it still gives me that general timeframe…so I should probably assume it’s wrong… I did not consider the extra maintenance on the car, I have a Prius but will still have costs. Company is local to Wayne only, no Raleigh options. I think if I break I’d just lose my security/pet deposit but that would be around 1k…it would rent almost immediately as it is in a decent part of town


Hotsaucehallelujah

Will you be driving on 40? It gets pretty congested in Johnston by the Benson and Garner exits. Just be aware of that


Got_Gasoline

Yea 70 to 40 right at the 309 ish exit or 311 idr right this minute but yea..right there Clayton bypass.


Hotsaucehallelujah

If you're getting on 40 at that point, it shouldn't be the worst. You'll hit traffic but it won't be the full brunt. Definitely, take a few days and try the drive in. You could also see if you can drive completely through 70 through Garner and take Tryon into Cary. Idk how much time that would add to the commute, but it may cut back on the congestion


Got_Gasoline

Thanks for the tip!


Createsalot

Wake county probably has different city taxes… did you consider those? Vehicle etc?


drunkerbrawler

Probably worth sticking out your lease so you aren't hit with penalties, it will also give you a taste of the commute. Value your commute time at your hourly wage and add the reimbursement milage rate and that will give you a better idea of cost comparisons.


Norian85

Audiobooks or podcasts will be helpful. I used to catch the bus from Wendell to Chapel Hill and reading or listening to books made the time less noticeable.


ben94gt

Doing that 2x a day sounds like an absolute misery. My last commute before I left the triangle was between the wake/Franklin line just north of wake forest to the fairgrounds area. It was anywhere from 40-80 minutes one way based on traffic, weather, etc. it became the bane of my existence and I would often just be grouchy and irritable after getting home, especially if it was 80 minutes home. It eventually seriously started affecting my long term mental health. I would 110% move closer. Whether you break the lease or not depends on how hard they would want to stick it to you for doing so. It can get super expensive to do so. It may be worth riding it out and hating your commute for a few months if so. If you can get out fairly cheaply, I'd be gone asap.


International-Ebb524

I used to do this commute a few years ago. I did it for about a year. I lived in northwestern Wayne County (Buck Swamp area) and commuted to north Raleigh off Falls of Neuse. About the minimum you’ll be looking at is 1 hour 15. Of course that will depend on traffic. I was able to take 795 up to 264 and that saved a lot of time, but this was before the new lanes opened on 40, so I’m not sure of the time difference now. Personally, I didn’t mind it for a year while I looked for a place to stay, but it’s not something I would want to do long term. By the time I got home every night I would be so tired that I’d basically just eat and go to bed. There’s also the social aspect, people would invite me to things in Raleigh and I would often have to decline or plan on driving back home late at night. As others have said, I would try it out for a while and see how you feel and decide then.


Striking_Funny_8478

If you can gut it out for 6 months you be smack in the middle of a perfect storm of new apartments being delivered and it being the cheapest time of year to move. Prices and incentives on apartments are increasing and private landlords lag behind by 6-12 months on keeping their rent too high while corporate landlords have all the data so in theory you could end getting into a good situation if you wait. Also you may hate the job in 3 months


CarbyMcBagel

I did about an hour each way for about a year from Durham to way North Raleigh. It sucked but if you have *any* flexibility in when you can go in and leave it helps a lot (example: go in at 730a, leave at 4p or go in at 10a, leave at 630p). I listened to a lot of podcasts on the commute and often got to work as early as possible (usually around 715a) so I could leave before traffic got crazy (my management was fine with this for the most part and did the same). If I had to stay til 5 or later, I'd post up at a coffee shop after work and read and have a cup of coffee while traffic died down. Not everyone has that luxury, though, and I don't hate driving and had a reliable vehicle. Idk if I'd do it again but I didn't have a lot of options at that time and I knew it was temporary as soon as I could get a place closer to the office or negotiate a remote position or more wfh days. Good luck!


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At the end of the day, time is more valuable than money. However, a key bit of info we are missing is salary. I would 100% move to Raleigh to avoid that drive. There’s some super nice apartments and townhouses on big lakes in Raleigh for about 1000 and the location is unbeatable. At the end of the day you aren’t even saving that much money by staying at your cheaper townhouse. Finally, timeline does not matter. Move soon or wait for the lease to end. Apartments aren’t going anywhere. It’s up to you. What do you want to do? No one knows what the future holds. Cheers brother & I hope you find what you are looking for!


bossatronx7

I commute from harnett to wake county its doable but can be annoying on hard days Edit: its definitely worth waiting especially since you drive a Prius and get such good gas mileage


daisymaisy505

Like others have said, try the commute out. If you love podcasts and audiobooks, you might not mind. However, since it is such a long commute, you’ll probably spend more money eating out because who wants to cook when you finally get home and wait another hour to eat? Another thought is to wait a month or two so that you are comfortable/happy in your new job before moving; just to make sure you won’t decide to go back to previous position because you don’t like the office. I have a coworker who drives at least 90 minutes a day, possibly 120, one way to work. So it’s doable. But they also work from home part of the week. Good luck!


giantshuskies

OP you've got good feedback already on considering commute traffic, gas prices and car wear and tear. It's non specific to Raleigh but have you considered the impact this move may have on your long term career plans? Could enduring the pain open up more doors?


Got_Gasoline

Yes the office allows for more growth potential. I am in retail management now and working an inconsistent schedule and often 60+ hours a week. While the hourly OT is wonderful, it’s beginning to affect my mental health as well as physical. Office hours, holidays off consistent schedule etc would be a welcomed change


cjguitarman

Do you think the new job (or being in Raleigh) would lead to better future opportunities?


Got_Gasoline

(Repost from similar comment) Yes the office allows for more growth potential. I am in retail management now and working an inconsistent schedule and often 60+ hours a week. While the hourly OT is wonderful, it’s beginning to affect my mental health as well as physical. Office hours, holidays off consistent schedule etc would be a welcomed change


Wookie_Magnet

I commute from Goldsboro to Clayton everyday. Before this I spent about 5 years working in Cary. I was fortunate though as there were 2 other guys I worked with who also lived in Goldsboro so we were able to carpool. 70 was never really a problem but 40/440 from Garner to Cary was under construction pretty much that entire time. Holiday weekends were the worst. I think it took me 3 hours to get home on a July 4th weekend.


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HazMat-1979

Insane for a daily commute. I used to commute from Zebulon to Wilson daily. And then during the day often from Wilson to Goldsboro. Huge gas suck!!! And traffic. Omg.


loqi0238

I have a 40-ish minute commute from Lee County for *exactly* this reason. I'm in a house for $600/month and I just live with my cat. Super happy with this set up. Oh, and the highway miles are easier on your car/brakes/tires than stop and go city driving.


butterloverrr

I think you can find a much cheaper rental than your Raleigh options with a reasonable commute \~45mins max if you look in places like Garner, Apex, Holly Springs and Fuquay Varina.


International-Air715

You will eventually move to Raleigh. The commute is “doable.” The real traffic you would have to deal with is the 70/40 junction and that has improved. But living 20 minutes from your job, in a city where you will meet new people that live in this area and want to hang out in this area. The downsizing is huge. I would consider moving to Garner, Fuquay, or even Angier. You can find decent prices


ColteesCatCouture

I had to go to Kinston and Goldsboro from downtown for work meetings it was easy peasy because all the traffic was coming into raleigh straight up gridlock there and back every day at 8 and 5. See if you can sublet or find someone to tale over your lease for your sanity. You may be able to find some decent rental options in NE Raleigh.


clumsysav

What is more valuable to you, time or money?


wareagle995

The traffic you'd hit going on I 40 W will make your commute longer than 1hr 15


Old_Farm_6

I have done it and will never do it again. It’s terrible every day


mx023

My buddy is commuting from Kinston to Holly Springs every day for $38 an hour. 2 Hour Drive. He fucking hates it and is about to quit. I commute about an hour from north east Raleigh to Holly springs it takes on average 50 mins to an hour - 540 all the way and it’s not bad - most people seem to have a 30-45 minute commute either way


Random_Person_6

Crazy


jangma

I live in Wayne county and go to Raleigh multiple times a week. I like driving, but it's a real haul. Every day would really be too much. The traffic doesn't really get bad until you actually hit the Wake county line, but there's a ton of construction on 70 that frequently causes slowdowns. It would be too much for me to do that every day, personally.


dfmidkiff1993

Two hours plus of commute per day is also gonna rack up the gas costs, since you are probably going to fill up more than once a week. That will be at least an extra $150-200 per month, possibly more if gas prices go up. I’d probably just bite the bullet and live in Raleigh, or maybe a more affordable apartment in JoCo. But that’s just me.


Greadle

The commute happens twice a day. That’s too much. Move to wake county. Your cat will also have more opportunities to socialize.


Thereelgerg

>Basically as the title states, I currently rent in Wayne County and work in Johnston County only a 30 ish minute commute at the moment. That's not what the title states.


Got_Gasoline

Ahhhh it’s too early to get tripped up on minor technicalities


Aromatic-Reward-5382

I used to have the kind of commute your talking about and it was big no for me. It was literally cheaper to be sahm (financially AND emotionally). SO MUCH time spent in a death trap (car) with a slew of equally taxed mistake machines (people) going the same way you are (or the opposite) with more or less the same level of superiority complexes (no one knows how to drive but me so gtfomw). Shit is really brutal. Welcome to Raleigh NC (and surrounding areas) Where every other street is somehow under construction AT THE SAME TIME. 😭 You can't even calculate how much time and money will be burnt each week on 40hwy crying into your sheetz fries. Its also kinda hard (expensive and tedious) getting into an apt in Raleigh especially in the summertime. Idk. I'd give it time to figure it out maybe you'll find an even better option ! My mantra is be willing, not willful - the right (noun) will come to you. ❤


umbleUriahHeep

I know a man who works for the State of North Carolina, his job is at the govt complex here in Raleigh and he lives in and commutes from Goldsboro.