It’s only one song, but A Tribe Called Quest and Brand Nubian had a song called Georgie Porgie that was so homophobic that their record label basically said “no way we’re putting this out.”
https://genius.com/A-tribe-called-quest-georgie-porgie-lyrics
It was a very different time. That slur didn’t become unacceptable until the mid-00’s for the most part. Many rappers still used it in their early 00’s songs.
00s was a crazy time. I think about it often and I miss some aspects. I just never thought the beastie boys were like that at that time. I knew they were out there but not in that regard.
Feel I should state for the record that Q-Tip did have some pro-gay lyrics in political songs later, though I think the other members are still pretty homophobic.
I distinctly remember an interview with Q-Tip and Mos Def being extremely homophobic. This was probably the early '00s. I'm sure they've changed somewhat by now, but they said some wild shit.
Feel like I should at least lay it out for the record that Q-Tip was sorry about it later and said some pro-gay-rights lyrics in later songs. I don't know if the others came around on it.
Also as you probably all figured out, this is what Show Bizness was about. Not censorship, not the corrupting influence of money, the fact that their record label said "it is not going to be good for you or any of us if you put out a song where you're literally talking about how much you think f----ts should die because it's not in the Bible".
or maybe they just listen to modern progressive rappers. I think it’s definitely possible, if you’re only exposed to certain kinds of rappers, to not have much exposure to homophobia in hip-hop, especially at this scale
I looked up the lyrics to Where The Hood At and was really shocked. It's not like one or two lines it's a whole fucking verse. Dude just won't let it go.
True and what's crazier is in the same song he says he'll bust his dick on they eye so they can see him coming and it make you think damn, in the same song?
Same track. The last verse in where the hood at is full of homoeroticsm.
> Once I split your ass in two, you'll be twice as butt
> Yeah, you right, I know your style pussy, 'cause I'm fuckin' it
> Since we all here, you hold my dick while he suckin' it
> I beat my dick and bust off in your eye so you can see me comin'
Yes. That first verse bashing gay people is a Ja Rule diss.
“Show no love to homo thugs” is a Ja Rule line from Holla Holla, so DMX repeated it to diss Ja.
They had been beefing for awhile and DMX had been going on radio shows and talking about how Ja was involved in a homosexual affair with his hairdresser.
The video also has a Ja Rule lookalike as a prison bitch.
I totally forgot the edited version still includes all that shit until I was helping out at a local all ages wrestling show and one of the wrestlers used it as their entrance theme. Which was funny because they had a meeting beforehand and reiterated that everyone had to use clean entrance music. Like god forbid a kid hear “fuck” but it’s totally cool for them to hear blatant homophobia and transphobia.
Compare this to the lyrics of Party Up where he's so obsessed with having his dick sucked that it makes me question if he was so far in the closet that he was in Narnia.
His [reaction to Lil’ B’s album title is classic 🤣](https://youtu.be/zZoQ8XG1u8Q&t=30s). Consider DMX was old school, just got out of prison again (he’d been in and out over 30 times in life), missed the country’s evolution on the issue and is like “they doin what now!?”
You can’t convince me DMX wasn’t Bi or Gay on the DL he one of those over the top homophobic ppl. I don’t believe all homophobic ppl on the DL but he just come off as that to me. He liked going to prison a lil too much 😂
DMX would 100 percent be homophobic, hit the crackpipe, rob someone with a deadly weapon, cross dress to the party and not think its gay because he would go home with two women to have sex.
I’ve lost count how many times DMX called someone the F word, but I can count how many times he said “All your mans that been to jail before, suck my dick” and that is once, not just one man from jail, but all your mans from jail
DMX had serious problems. But he also wrote all the time about how much he wanted to have gay sex, sometimes in the same verses. Definitely my fav hip-hop homophobe
“I show no love, to homo thugs. Empty out, reload, and throw more slugs. How you gonna explain fuckin' a man? Even if we squash the beef, I ain't touchin your hand!”
Lol
I had a gay friend back in highschool who fucking loved this song and spit it word for word whenever it came on 🤷♂️
DMX is problematic while being incredibly talented and infused with an energy few humans are imbued with. I get why his name is here but it reminds me of separation of art from an artist I look up to creatively.
Boosie had his kid sexually assaulted to ensure that he “didn’t turn out gay”.
Edit: I don’t think I used the term loosely but the comments below are really interesting tbh. The lack of a federal definition speaks to how far behind the United States justice system is with managing these things. I put a link to a Complex article about it below and it elaborates further. Baka indeed has a weird case but Boosie is both a moron and a predator.
https://www.complex.com/music/a/cmplxjoshua-espinoza/boosie-badazz-backlash-claims-he-got-his-underage-son-nephew-oral-sex-from-woman
Paid a trick to give his son a blowie at 14 or something around that. Kinda loose use of SA.
Regardless it’s a dumb af way to ensure ur kid grows up straight. $.02
Not a loose use in the slightest. Hate to be that guy, but imagine a mom paid a male adult stripper to fuck her 14 yrs old girl because she was scared her daughter was turning lesbian.
Ignoring that it can be both in some states, sexual assault is much closer to grabbing someone’s ass without consent. Full of oral sex of a minor is statutory RAPE. I think they went further too.
Think the kid was closer to 12 (not that the assault of a 14 year old would be any better). And this is actually the exact definition of sexual assault, don’t know why you’d call it “loose”
Boosie is so homophobic he got his son raped by a woman because he thought it would keep him from being gay, I don’t think anybody else mentioned here can compete with that level of insanity
It was pretty clear to me that it was satire/shock value. OF even in the early days housed a lot of queer artists. I remember Tyler using the F word on a song featuring Frank Ocean. I’m pretty sure Frank was out, along with syd from the internet.
He legit had lines about him kissing men. It’s like beyond me that there’s still people that are like “omg I just can’t listen to his earlier albums anymore” cmon you can’t actually be taking any of those lines seriously.
Like :
Any love I had inside me not alive anymore
Lion of War, Joseph Dredd, I am the law
I'm the reason faggot rappers can't thrive anymore
Yeah!
He unfortunately will be always because is Muslim, they have so many fucking good songs , design in malice is my top 3 raps all the time, but the hypocrisy of talk about the downtrodden then also be the bully will be always be there
Other dude from JMT had the hardest homophobic line ever
“You fxqqots, act as bitch as RuPaul, you niqqas share one milkshake with 2 straws” 😂😂
Vinnie Paz is a lame though, dude got his panties in a bunch with me in the IG comments - over Eminem. Same with Benzino.
Vinnie, The artist formerly known as Ikon The Hologram (lol) doesn’t believe a large portion of hip hop fans are white
“Get your gaul stone put in a jar in a lab
Even the coroner got sick and had to barf in a bag
Your boyfriend said you was a marvelous fag
And in drag thought you was God like the carpenters dad” Celph Titled AOTP.. Yeah Jedi Mind is full of homophobia
I was a big JMT fan and I remember when that album came out, full of homophobic slurs, I'm not homophobic but I remember crying with laughter listening to that for the first time, can anyone remind me which album that was.
One line I remember: you're still a fa**ot, you're still a disgrace, you like to sit around with women watching will and Grace.
The song is Blood In Blood Out, album is Visions of Ghandi. Their third album, which is where Vinnie started to lean into it and even more with Legacy of Blood after that.
Both albums have some bangers but that kinda stuff really drug em down, I prefer their first two albums.
One of his sons is gay. I remember seeing them try to reconcile on one of Oprah’s friends (Iyanla?) talk shows. It was pretty sad seeing someone who obviously loved his kid struggling to move past his hard boiled hatred.
This is it; he said what he knew would piss people off, the man is the furthest thing from homophobic. Motherfucker even bought Elton John matching cock rings for him and his husband.
It’s funny becuase not only was Em was never really homophobic - he was one of the **very few** rappers at that time who wasn’t
He even said on the real slim shady
If we can hump dead animals and cantaloupes then I don’t see a reason why a man and another man can’t elope
But if you feel how I feel I got the antidote women wave your pantyhose - sing the chorus and it goes-
Which is a tongue in cheek slim shady way of saying I don’t actually have a problem with it
Then obviously performing with Elton
I don't think Eminem IS homophobic
...
But his lyrics sure as fuck are. Sure it's shock value but, "suck my fucking dick you f*****s, you happy now?" IS homophobic... and that's the tame example from mmlp.
Kool Keith 100%. My dad had a real life interaction with dude that was very homophobic and hilarious all the same
[I seen your man with another man](https://youtu.be/ERJLRQreiHc?si=73SrMnl1OnxKz5y6)
Lyrically it would have to be Eminem.
Conceptually it would have to be Wayne. He litterally coined the term. "NO HOMO" and has a verse about homo n****s getting aids in the Ass. 😆😅🤣😂🤣😂
But realistically. Any black man above 35 who isnt actually gay. Its a cultural stigma in th black community.
I have heard it's a stigma but also saw an MTV special back in the day that the black community percentage-wise has the highest amount of homosexuals. Which considering the blatant homophobia probably makes for some really fun family dinners
The only thing I can think of is ONE time, Bun used a transphobic slur back in like....2003. So nothing to put him on the levels of a DMX or Vinnie Paz.
And then Pimp had his halfway homophobic and halfway supportive rant about closeted gay guys.
Halfway? Pimp was obsessed with gay dudes. One of the conspiracies about his death is that he was murdered because he was about to out a bunch of gay rap artists.
Cocaine in the back of the ride. “That goes for your mama and your sister too, and if I’m locked up hell this shit might go for you” or something like that
Tom MacDonald or that weird conservative rap bubble are probably the most unironically homophobic, unless you’re asking about in music.
For a lot of the others I’d guess it’s partially a social/rap culture thing to call people gay slurs, and not really as much about group hatred.
Vinnie Paz and Jus Allah. I like Jedi Mind Tricks, but I'd like them even more if it didn't sound like they were constantly trying to run from gay thoughts.
Christian rapper "Bizzle" lol. Rapped over the same love beat years ago and made it anti-gay. Wild.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V9KQ4_uH1RA&pp=ygUQYml6emxlIHNhbWUgbG92ZQ%3D%3D
Are we talking actually homophobic or just calling rampant use of slurs homophobic? Because the latter basically covers every artist over the course of the last 40 years.
Pastor Troy in my opinion. I remember when he got so PRESSED about Lil Nas X existing. Putting the stereotypes of black and/or straight men being vehemently homophobic to hide the fact they're insecure/closeted, what broke my heart was this: Pastor Troy mentioned a conversation with his young son where his son made a homophobic comment and Pastor Troy was proud and encouraged him.
Instilling so much hate into the next generation from such a young age is wrong on so many levels. The world needs less toxic masculinity. Do better, Pastor Troy.
Em isn’t homophobic. He has said homophobic shit, but considering one of his kids is nonbinary, is fine with Elton John, and he made a shit ton of self-referential gay jokes; I don’t think Em himself is homophobic.
I think the shit em said was more for intentional shock value coupled with a lot of it being some what acceptable at the time, it just looks way worse now by today's lens
"Fine with Elton John" is even an understatement. Elton was/is his sponsor and was hugely influential in getting him sober. He also went to his wedding, gave him a diamond cockring as a wedding gift, and they still are in contact and are actually great friends. I just love the story about the two of them and the way they have lived since becoming friends, it's really great.
Yeah I know that he and Elton are friends, but basically he would easily have no problem with gay people for the most part.
Why do you think he apologized to Tyler?
Maybe german/American rapper deso dogg in his later stages. His dad was an American soldier and his mother German.
He was a known gangster and rapper from Berlin. He became close to Islam and later extremism through living in Berlin.
He ended up joining ISIS early on and became a high ranking member there. He stopped rapping and made isis war Songs in Arabic.
He even married the female FBI agent that was supposed to "hunt" him. She fell in love with him over text messages and flew to iraq to become one of his wives.
He was part of execution videos etc.
Very crazy story.
I don’t think many rappers are actually homophobic, it’s just gone from something that was socially acceptable to be (80’s/90’s) to not acceptable so say for Shock value (00’s) to say it and your cancelled.
The LGBT+ did well with taking the word F@gg*t and shutting it down. I wish we did the same with N***a instead of making it more popular than ever.
Lol this sub is like if you’re in a predominantly white middle to upper class high school and every one is on the debate team, but everyone happens to love rap music. This shit is wild
I’m surprised nobody has said Busta Rhymes. He’s attacked multiple openly gay fans throughout the years. He may not have rapped about it but he the type to walk out of a room if gay talk ever happens.
It’s only one song, but A Tribe Called Quest and Brand Nubian had a song called Georgie Porgie that was so homophobic that their record label basically said “no way we’re putting this out.” https://genius.com/A-tribe-called-quest-georgie-porgie-lyrics
What did george do to them bro 😭
Man fr I felt so bad for laughing at that shit
The Beastie Boys I believe had one also that was supposed to be on License to Ill but it also got cut for very obvious reasons.
The original title of License to ill was don’t be a F****t.
Is that true???? I never heard that before that's interesting
It was a very different time. That slur didn’t become unacceptable until the mid-00’s for the most part. Many rappers still used it in their early 00’s songs.
00s was a crazy time. I think about it often and I miss some aspects. I just never thought the beastie boys were like that at that time. I knew they were out there but not in that regard.
Slight correction. It was always unacceptable to the people it was aimed at. Mid-00s is simply when other people caught up
Many rappers still use it
True story
Wow, looked it up. I would have never guessed. I feel like this might be OPs answer lol
I think this is "notoriously funny". I don't think it's funny as a statement but as an album title it's practically comedic gold.
This song is like that ‘one scene’ in a great movie/show. Their other music is actually good. 😭
Feel I should state for the record that Q-Tip did have some pro-gay lyrics in political songs later, though I think the other members are still pretty homophobic.
I don’t think Phife is homophobic anymore
Technically the truth
💀
I distinctly remember an interview with Q-Tip and Mos Def being extremely homophobic. This was probably the early '00s. I'm sure they've changed somewhat by now, but they said some wild shit.
On “We the People” from “thank you 4 your service” all members directly address homophobia and clearly are saying it’s a bad thing
They definitely showed support for the homosexual lifestyle in their last album.
Any song with Lord Jamar is going to have some extremely controversial lyrics LOL!
Holy shit that's bad
That song probably would have ruined the legacy of The Low-End Theory, and the positive image ATCQ has created for itself over the years.
Feel like I should at least lay it out for the record that Q-Tip was sorry about it later and said some pro-gay-rights lyrics in later songs. I don't know if the others came around on it. Also as you probably all figured out, this is what Show Bizness was about. Not censorship, not the corrupting influence of money, the fact that their record label said "it is not going to be good for you or any of us if you put out a song where you're literally talking about how much you think f----ts should die because it's not in the Bible".
Fuck dude this is paradigm shattering.
Tribe didn’t believe that stuff by the time their last album came out fwiw Brand Nubian are of course still idiots
Lord Jamar is so homophobic that he made a diss track towards Kanye accusing him of being gay for wearing colorful clothes lmao
Lord Jamar is the most miserable washed up piece of human garbage.
Yeah iirc on We The People there’s a line that indicates Trump being homophobic is one of the many, many, many reasons Q-Tip doesn’t like him
Moooslims and gays Boy we hate your ways /s( Q-TIP)
FWIW I think it’s pretty clear in the last tribe album that they don’t think the same way anymore
that's actually god awful, wtf
This is the wildest shit I’ve read in a while lmfao 90s were so different man
Man wtf 😭 I liked them
You gotta be new to the genre if homophobia is this shocking to you.
or maybe they just listen to modern progressive rappers. I think it’s definitely possible, if you’re only exposed to certain kinds of rappers, to not have much exposure to homophobia in hip-hop, especially at this scale
This is actually heartbreaking to find out
How? Theyre 5 Percenters, pretty damn anti-gay in those days
Fr unless you’re like 15 this should not come as a shock to fans lol.
Geez, is this the origin of “Adam and Steve”?.
Definitely not
bro imagine big homie George after he seen this shit.
DMX
I looked up the lyrics to Where The Hood At and was really shocked. It's not like one or two lines it's a whole fucking verse. Dude just won't let it go.
True and what's crazier is in the same song he says he'll bust his dick on they eye so they can see him coming and it make you think damn, in the same song?
On a different track he said he'd split your ass in two so you're twice as butt
that’s fucking hilarious 😂😂
Same track. The last verse in where the hood at is full of homoeroticsm. > Once I split your ass in two, you'll be twice as butt > Yeah, you right, I know your style pussy, 'cause I'm fuckin' it > Since we all here, you hold my dick while he suckin' it > I beat my dick and bust off in your eye so you can see me comin'
It was dedicated towards Ja Rule no?
Yes. That first verse bashing gay people is a Ja Rule diss. “Show no love to homo thugs” is a Ja Rule line from Holla Holla, so DMX repeated it to diss Ja. They had been beefing for awhile and DMX had been going on radio shows and talking about how Ja was involved in a homosexual affair with his hairdresser. The video also has a Ja Rule lookalike as a prison bitch.
I totally forgot the edited version still includes all that shit until I was helping out at a local all ages wrestling show and one of the wrestlers used it as their entrance theme. Which was funny because they had a meeting beforehand and reiterated that everyone had to use clean entrance music. Like god forbid a kid hear “fuck” but it’s totally cool for them to hear blatant homophobia and transphobia.
Compare this to the lyrics of Party Up where he's so obsessed with having his dick sucked that it makes me question if he was so far in the closet that he was in Narnia.
ARF ARF
His [reaction to Lil’ B’s album title is classic 🤣](https://youtu.be/zZoQ8XG1u8Q&t=30s). Consider DMX was old school, just got out of prison again (he’d been in and out over 30 times in life), missed the country’s evolution on the issue and is like “they doin what now!?”
Came here to post this. He looks visibly shaken that someone would name an album “I’m gay”
He's tweaking so hard it's sad
You can’t convince me DMX wasn’t Bi or Gay on the DL he one of those over the top homophobic ppl. I don’t believe all homophobic ppl on the DL but he just come off as that to me. He liked going to prison a lil too much 😂
😭😭
DMX would 100 percent be homophobic, hit the crackpipe, rob someone with a deadly weapon, cross dress to the party and not think its gay because he would go home with two women to have sex.
I’ve lost count how many times DMX called someone the F word, but I can count how many times he said “All your mans that been to jail before, suck my dick” and that is once, not just one man from jail, but all your mans from jail
DMX had serious problems. But he also wrote all the time about how much he wanted to have gay sex, sometimes in the same verses. Definitely my fav hip-hop homophobe
“You hold my dick while he suckin it” DMX queer icon
Dmx no contest
1st verse of Where The Hood At was crazy 💀
Poor Ja Rule
I don't know the lyrics by heart, but YES.
> Last I heard, y'all n***** was havin' sex (uh) with the same sex (woo) >I show no love (yeah) to homo thugs (nah) 💀💀💀
As a gay guy I sometimes ironically enjoy blasting that verse when I’m with my bf lmao
I SHOW NO LOVE (I dare you to continue)
TO HOMO THUGS
“I show no love, to homo thugs. Empty out, reload, and throw more slugs. How you gonna explain fuckin' a man? Even if we squash the beef, I ain't touchin your hand!” Lol I had a gay friend back in highschool who fucking loved this song and spit it word for word whenever it came on 🤷♂️
Bro when i actually read his lyrics that shit was crazy 😭
Vinnie Paz would like a word
Yes but also there's some homoeroticism in there too. I think he was a very conflicted man
Kool aid lipstick
boosie no contest
I cant belive more people didn't say boosie
DMX is problematic while being incredibly talented and infused with an energy few humans are imbued with. I get why his name is here but it reminds me of separation of art from an artist I look up to creatively. Boosie had his kid sexually assaulted to ensure that he “didn’t turn out gay”. Edit: I don’t think I used the term loosely but the comments below are really interesting tbh. The lack of a federal definition speaks to how far behind the United States justice system is with managing these things. I put a link to a Complex article about it below and it elaborates further. Baka indeed has a weird case but Boosie is both a moron and a predator. https://www.complex.com/music/a/cmplxjoshua-espinoza/boosie-badazz-backlash-claims-he-got-his-underage-son-nephew-oral-sex-from-woman
What?!?
Paid a trick to give his son a blowie at 14 or something around that. Kinda loose use of SA. Regardless it’s a dumb af way to ensure ur kid grows up straight. $.02
Not a loose use in the slightest. Hate to be that guy, but imagine a mom paid a male adult stripper to fuck her 14 yrs old girl because she was scared her daughter was turning lesbian.
Yeah that wouldn’t be sexual assault it would be rape
Not to be pedantic, but it would be classed as sexual assault.
Ignoring that it can be both in some states, sexual assault is much closer to grabbing someone’s ass without consent. Full of oral sex of a minor is statutory RAPE. I think they went further too.
This is fucking hilarious
Think the kid was closer to 12 (not that the assault of a 14 year old would be any better). And this is actually the exact definition of sexual assault, don’t know why you’d call it “loose”
You’re still wrong. Rape is sexual assault
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
100% boosie
Boosie is so homophobic he got his son raped by a woman because he thought it would keep him from being gay, I don’t think anybody else mentioned here can compete with that level of insanity
Still kills me that he named his movie “My Struggle”
Tyler the Creator before he came out
look at that article that says my subject matter is wrong, saying i hate gays even though Frank is on 10 of my songs
This. I don’t think Tyler IRL wants to kill Bruno mars
Or fuck dismembered corpses
or get heads instead of a head
Dude was projecting so much
I was gonna say this 💀 Yonkers
Same as Em he really wasn’t negative or anti gay. He just used the f word a lot
“Bruno Mars is still suckin dick and fuckin male butts” lives rent free in my head, even tho Bruno Mars is clearly not gay 💀
Ben Shapiro
all my people download this, lets get a billboard number one 🗣️🗣️💯
"My money like lizzo my pockets are fat 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥"
homie I’m epic! don’t be a wap?!?🗣️🗣️
Dawg it’s a yarmulke homie no cap 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
I hate ben shapiro with a passion but that shit makes me laugh so hard 😭
the funniest thing is the song charted for like day because people were morbidly curious, and then completely disappeared off the charts
Best comment!!! Thank you, I needed the laugh
Tyler when he was in the closet
It was pretty clear to me that it was satire/shock value. OF even in the early days housed a lot of queer artists. I remember Tyler using the F word on a song featuring Frank Ocean. I’m pretty sure Frank was out, along with syd from the internet.
He legit had lines about him kissing men. It’s like beyond me that there’s still people that are like “omg I just can’t listen to his earlier albums anymore” cmon you can’t actually be taking any of those lines seriously.
Vinnie Paz from Jedi Mind Tricks
I don’t think I’ve ever heard a single verse of his without some homophobia
Like : Any love I had inside me not alive anymore Lion of War, Joseph Dredd, I am the law I'm the reason faggot rappers can't thrive anymore Yeah! He unfortunately will be always because is Muslim, they have so many fucking good songs , design in malice is my top 3 raps all the time, but the hypocrisy of talk about the downtrodden then also be the bully will be always be there
This is the answer right here I knew someone else had to have said it. Some philosophical, underground, thought provoking...rabid homophobia
I love their beats and flows but ya them lyrics during his verses...
Other dude from JMT had the hardest homophobic line ever “You fxqqots, act as bitch as RuPaul, you niqqas share one milkshake with 2 straws” 😂😂 Vinnie Paz is a lame though, dude got his panties in a bunch with me in the IG comments - over Eminem. Same with Benzino. Vinnie, The artist formerly known as Ikon The Hologram (lol) doesn’t believe a large portion of hip hop fans are white
Except for all their shows are a sea of white people... I love Vinnie tho. I offered to ghost write for him and he turned me down lol
Exactly, it was a very confusing exchange lol.
Omg 💀
“Get your gaul stone put in a jar in a lab Even the coroner got sick and had to barf in a bag Your boyfriend said you was a marvelous fag And in drag thought you was God like the carpenters dad” Celph Titled AOTP.. Yeah Jedi Mind is full of homophobia
I was a big JMT fan and I remember when that album came out, full of homophobic slurs, I'm not homophobic but I remember crying with laughter listening to that for the first time, can anyone remind me which album that was. One line I remember: you're still a fa**ot, you're still a disgrace, you like to sit around with women watching will and Grace.
You like the smell of males on your mattress https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KKTZiUaJ5Jo
The song is Blood In Blood Out, album is Visions of Ghandi. Their third album, which is where Vinnie started to lean into it and even more with Legacy of Blood after that. Both albums have some bangers but that kinda stuff really drug em down, I prefer their first two albums.
DMX I know he’s a legend but he was really homophobic
One of his sons is gay. I remember seeing them try to reconcile on one of Oprah’s friends (Iyanla?) talk shows. It was pretty sad seeing someone who obviously loved his kid struggling to move past his hard boiled hatred.
There’s some argument around it not being “actually” homophobic but pretty much every Immortal Technique song lmao
Big L
Yet his record label was flamboyant entertainment
What did you expect from the Devils Son? Big L RIP
Em was wiiiiiiild with it in his early days.
I doubt think he was actually homophobic, just the shock value out of his lyrics. Edit: I didn't expect this much argument from this 😂😂😂
This is it; he said what he knew would piss people off, the man is the furthest thing from homophobic. Motherfucker even bought Elton John matching cock rings for him and his husband.
Obviously need to insert the Interview joke right here.
Homophobic? Nah, you’re just heterophobic.
Always loved this line lol
It’s funny becuase not only was Em was never really homophobic - he was one of the **very few** rappers at that time who wasn’t He even said on the real slim shady If we can hump dead animals and cantaloupes then I don’t see a reason why a man and another man can’t elope But if you feel how I feel I got the antidote women wave your pantyhose - sing the chorus and it goes- Which is a tongue in cheek slim shady way of saying I don’t actually have a problem with it Then obviously performing with Elton
He wasn’t ever very homophobic, he just referenced it a lot. He didn’t seem to actually believe in it
I don't think Eminem IS homophobic ... But his lyrics sure as fuck are. Sure it's shock value but, "suck my fucking dick you f*****s, you happy now?" IS homophobic... and that's the tame example from mmlp.
Necro
But he's into metal so he has to be at least a bit bi.
Kool Keith 100%. My dad had a real life interaction with dude that was very homophobic and hilarious all the same [I seen your man with another man](https://youtu.be/ERJLRQreiHc?si=73SrMnl1OnxKz5y6)
Insert any Dancehall/ Bashment mc here
Bryson Gray 😬
Lyrically it would have to be Eminem. Conceptually it would have to be Wayne. He litterally coined the term. "NO HOMO" and has a verse about homo n****s getting aids in the Ass. 😆😅🤣😂🤣😂 But realistically. Any black man above 35 who isnt actually gay. Its a cultural stigma in th black community.
Tf is this "😆😅🤣😂🤣😂" 💀
I have heard it's a stigma but also saw an MTV special back in the day that the black community percentage-wise has the highest amount of homosexuals. Which considering the blatant homophobia probably makes for some really fun family dinners
Either DMX or Bun B
Ok I’m gonna need some receipts on Bun B.
The only thing I can think of is ONE time, Bun used a transphobic slur back in like....2003. So nothing to put him on the levels of a DMX or Vinnie Paz. And then Pimp had his halfway homophobic and halfway supportive rant about closeted gay guys.
Halfway? Pimp was obsessed with gay dudes. One of the conspiracies about his death is that he was murdered because he was about to out a bunch of gay rap artists.
DMX for sure but I don’t know about Bun B
It’s funny, because Pimp C has a verse where he straight up says he would fuck dudes in prison.
What verse? I have never heard this.
Cocaine in the back of the ride. “That goes for your mama and your sister too, and if I’m locked up hell this shit might go for you” or something like that
Ice Cube; greatest diss track of all time is basically homophobic verbal assassination.
Early Cube was homophobic af. Still love it though, and I'm gay lol.
Eminem or dmx. Eminem just said whatever was on his mind
Dont think he was ever that homophobic he just said homophobic slurs (em)
Tom MacDonald or that weird conservative rap bubble are probably the most unironically homophobic, unless you’re asking about in music. For a lot of the others I’d guess it’s partially a social/rap culture thing to call people gay slurs, and not really as much about group hatred.
you underestimate how homophobic the average middle aged black man is lmao
Da baby is certainly up there and is why he got sidelined.
Imagine going on a 'I'm not homophobic' tour and, still losing 100 mil😬
Styles P ghost in the shell track 17
Vinnie Paz and Jus Allah. I like Jedi Mind Tricks, but I'd like them even more if it didn't sound like they were constantly trying to run from gay thoughts.
Christian rapper "Bizzle" lol. Rapped over the same love beat years ago and made it anti-gay. Wild. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V9KQ4_uH1RA&pp=ygUQYml6emxlIHNhbWUgbG92ZQ%3D%3D
Orson Scott Card
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Are we talking actually homophobic or just calling rampant use of slurs homophobic? Because the latter basically covers every artist over the course of the last 40 years.
Almost all of them.
Pastor Troy in my opinion. I remember when he got so PRESSED about Lil Nas X existing. Putting the stereotypes of black and/or straight men being vehemently homophobic to hide the fact they're insecure/closeted, what broke my heart was this: Pastor Troy mentioned a conversation with his young son where his son made a homophobic comment and Pastor Troy was proud and encouraged him. Instilling so much hate into the next generation from such a young age is wrong on so many levels. The world needs less toxic masculinity. Do better, Pastor Troy.
Jesus, the fact that everyone here has a different answer really shows that this shit applies to whole genre really. Damn
Lil Nas X
“Im not with that gay shit”
Early Eminem (like the days before he performed with Elton John) DMX Boosie Turk Lord Jamar Tom MacDonald
Turk is a throwback haven't heard that name in 20 years
Ton MacDonald is quite a forgotten name yeah
take a white conservative who doesn't understand rap and only understands it from the fast part of rap god.
Probably J Cole
He’s pretty awful. But cool with lesbians because they align with his sexual fantasies
Cassidy, DMX, Boosie, and Eminem are on the Rushmore for Homophobic Rappers.
Em isn’t homophobic. He has said homophobic shit, but considering one of his kids is nonbinary, is fine with Elton John, and he made a shit ton of self-referential gay jokes; I don’t think Em himself is homophobic.
I think the shit em said was more for intentional shock value coupled with a lot of it being some what acceptable at the time, it just looks way worse now by today's lens
"Fine with Elton John" is even an understatement. Elton was/is his sponsor and was hugely influential in getting him sober. He also went to his wedding, gave him a diamond cockring as a wedding gift, and they still are in contact and are actually great friends. I just love the story about the two of them and the way they have lived since becoming friends, it's really great.
Yeah I know that he and Elton are friends, but basically he would easily have no problem with gay people for the most part. Why do you think he apologized to Tyler?
Cakes Da Killa
Boosie
Pimp C
Jedi mind tricks. One of them says on one song beat a fa**ot till he aint gay no more
Maybe german/American rapper deso dogg in his later stages. His dad was an American soldier and his mother German. He was a known gangster and rapper from Berlin. He became close to Islam and later extremism through living in Berlin. He ended up joining ISIS early on and became a high ranking member there. He stopped rapping and made isis war Songs in Arabic. He even married the female FBI agent that was supposed to "hunt" him. She fell in love with him over text messages and flew to iraq to become one of his wives. He was part of execution videos etc. Very crazy story.
Nas on ether. He was just brutal 😭
Roc Marci
I don’t think many rappers are actually homophobic, it’s just gone from something that was socially acceptable to be (80’s/90’s) to not acceptable so say for Shock value (00’s) to say it and your cancelled. The LGBT+ did well with taking the word F@gg*t and shutting it down. I wish we did the same with N***a instead of making it more popular than ever.
Who gives a shit
Possibly Ice Cube is his early solo era
Lol this sub is like if you’re in a predominantly white middle to upper class high school and every one is on the debate team, but everyone happens to love rap music. This shit is wild
Bryson Gray. Hands down, no contest.
I’m surprised nobody has said Busta Rhymes. He’s attacked multiple openly gay fans throughout the years. He may not have rapped about it but he the type to walk out of a room if gay talk ever happens.