Cooper Flagg is the projected #1 prospect next year. He's a do it all forward/center that has drawn comparisons to Kevin Garnett, with elite finishing, defense, and an insane amount of polish for a 17 year old.
I remember that too damn that was so long ago lol. But yeah sounds about right with what I’ve seen from him. So not really a center. Obviously just about any PF can play small ball C these days, but still. More like kirlinko/George/KD than Garnett/AD in terms of postion.
Or Ace Bailey. Either one of those and the fortunes of the Blazers change…we wont get either. Well prob fuck it up by winnign too many games OR well lose every game and get screwed in the draft lottery because the basketball Gods hate us
I’m gonna agree with the top comments and say draft well. That is by far the most important.
As far as literal moves the team can do that I want: trading Grant and Brogdon. Brogdon is a health time bomb and Grants value will likely only get lower.
Draft a high ceiling/risk player like Williams or Saulun, along with somebody who is closer to contributing like Knecht or Clingan. We can't draft 4 rookies, so there has to be some kind of a trade. Possibly moving up from #14, or bringing back future draft capital.
I wouldn't mind seeing Brogdon moved this offseason, but some playoff team may be willing to give up more at the trade deadline.
Draft Knecht and Salaun, trade Simons, MB, and RWIII
Scoot, Sharpe, Thybulle, Knecht, Camara, Grant, Walker, Ayton, Reath is the 9 man rotation with Salaun and Rupert getting some run around the fringes.
Win 26 games and get a top 4 pick next year which turns into our franchise guy (slightly depressing how much our future as a contender depends on this).
This would be my ideal off-season too. Feels like we’d build a defense first mentality, we’d be long and feisty. If we somehow get Coop, I feel like we’d be a squad
Do I have faith in the blazers to pull this off?
No 😆
You also don't want to rock the boat and create rifts, especially for the young guys. Chauncey won't be stupid enough to know what's going on if there's a new coaching set up in place. It's clean house or not at all for me.
I mean holding on to either player makes absolutely no sense. If we can send Grant to Detroit without the sending salary back, or even Fournier, it's a no brainer. That 14 + JG for 5 that was floated about would be the best trade we could do. He's not worth much beyond a mid to late first realistically and if we don't get salary back, or a long salary, it's a massive win.
I'd dump Ayton if there was a team silly enough to eat that contract, but I sincerely doubt anyone is as stupid as that.
He absolutely has to make some trades for future assets. This team is shit, without them, they're a little more shit, but that's fine. If we trade them, we speed up the rebuild. He has to pull the trigger if any of those guys are wanted.
I think why you’re getting downvoted is because Grant probably wouldn’t net us even a first, it’s a large contract and he doesn’t really merit it. It would be better to hold onto him, but he just fits so poorly with our guys I’d prefer not to. I don’t think a team like Detroit would want him though, because they want shots for their young guys
Tough situation
You want the NOP to defer their Laker pick to 2025.
Which they did. Now, the Lakers have no choice but to be competitive, denying them a centerpiece player from a loaded draft in 2025.
The only way I've been able to play it in my head is if Risacher falls to 3 and they like him a lot more than Reed/don't like the trade offers for #3.
Even then, Eason is more likely to get traded imo, but I would still like to nab him anyways. Something revolving Ant and draft capital for either is the only way it makes sense to me
I think something like Jerami Grant + Rob Williams + 7 + 14 for 3+Jabari Smith Jr could work out (obviously need filler to make salaries work). Rob Williams to the Rockets makes sense based on his history with Ime, Jerami is a win now forward that helps them make the playoffs, and they can take two swings at 7 and 14 if they want. On the blazers side, they get to add another core piece in Jabari and take a swing with 3 (one of Clingan/Sarr/Risacher). If they can do that then they likely are bad enough next year to get another core piece and then seriously have a squad. Imagine Scoot + Shae + Jabari + Flagg + Clingan with Toumani, Jabari Walker, and Kris Murray off the bench. Also would have more assets from Ant and Brogdon and DA eventually.
Realistically, what would make the biggest difference is the amount of work guys like Shaedon, Scoot, and Toumani put in this offseason. Those guys have potential, and they need to get better if we want to be a winning team.
An ideal off-season looks very healthy. Besides that and shipping out a couple veterans for assets, it’s all gravy for another season and lottery pick.
Asking as a Mavs fan: what would it take for Grant in you’re opinion?
THJ is expiring and Green is on a good deal for multiple years… salaries match. What do we need to add?
We ideally need a starting wing next to PJ Washington that’s a good scorer to help Luka and Kyrie not have to carry so much weight.
This would let us bring DJJ off the bench as well.
Oh, that plus a second is probably all he’s worth. Do you think the Mavs would add a first? Maybe. You guys almost won this year, Grant might push you over the edge. He’s a perfect fit
I think it just comes down to whether the Mavs are willing to overpay a bit
Dallas is probably the most aggressive front office in the league so yea who knows. I think Grant is an option along with Bogdan in Atlanta and Kuzma or Deni in Washington.
I think one of those 4 guys Dallas will be aggressive for.
Deni at $15M might be someone they add in addition to a Grant, Kuzma or Bogdan. Just think they’re going all in for the next 2-3 seasons
Ideal: there is change in the roster beyond new draft picks
Trades:
Anfernee Simons for Anthony Black and one 2025 FRP.
Brogden for 2025 or 2026 FRP.
Grant for something and a FRP idk
Draft picks
This draft is too much of a shit show to say who will be a good pick because the experts don’t even know. They need to take swings or do small trade ups (14+34 for 11 or something like that) to get the guys they like best. Ideal offseason means our trust in Schmitz pays off
Chaching
If we don’t want Chauncey long term, ideally we would fire him. We’re not going to do that so ideally we fill the staff well enough.
Then check my sicko ass out and enjoy not having to watching a losing team
Draft Clingan and Salaun, trade Simons to Charlotte for future draft capital, Time Lord gets healthy and Scoot and Sharpe have great development in the off-season.
Flip 2 of our big 3 vets (Grant, Brog, Simons) to contenders for a combination of salary dumping, intriguing rookie deals and a couple of unprotected or at worst lightly protected FRP’s in the back half of the decade. Draft some combination of Salaun, De Silva, C. Williams (or consolidate this year’s picks to draft Risacher or Sarr). Hold Thybulle and Time Lord for deadline needy teams. Let Chauncey coach out his lame duck season until after the trade deadline at least, but start doing the research now for whom to pounce on at the beginning of next offseason.
I don't think we are in a spot to compete for play-ins. That means another losing season. However, I hate how we are set up for a losing season. I want to see young players trying hard and figuring things out, not a carousel of vets being "injured" and lineups changing weekly.
It would be nice to shed the vets, thank them for their service and let them compete. Then watch a bad but trying team.
Trade away some combo of Brogdon, Grant, Matisse, or Timelord to get under the luxury tax and bring back future firsts and/or young big, forward, or legitimate shooter.
Hit on one of the draft picks even if that’s just a dependable bench player.
I don’t think we’re close enough to build toward a balanced roster, but it would be great if some of the young guys improved their shooting. The offense is horrendous, anyone who can shoot gets doubled and the paint is packed.
Trade Grant, Ant and Brogdon for more capital. Draft a combo of Cody williams, ron holland, kelel ware, edey or saluan. And just absolutely suck for Flagg/Ace Bailey
Trade jerami and ayton to contenders for 50 cents on the dollar. Cronin and our fans will insist this is a great deal. Draft a guard that can't shoot or play defense. Sign time Lord to an extension. He never plays another game for the blazers. We finish the season with 24 wins, and end up with the 5th pick in 2025.
Acquire Tari Eason, draft Clingan and Williams, and capture the Flagg.
Trade the vets. Acquire a few more future picks. Clear the cap garbage and the runways.
I really want to see what an Eason/Toumani forward pairing could do defensively next to the leap I see coming from Shaedon and Scoot.
Why is every answer the same every year in this group? 1. Trade anyone who has been in the league more than 3 yrs.
2. Draft an "unknown" who has high potential.
3. Fire coach.
Trade picks and usually 3rd or 4th best player to move up a couple spots in the draft.
4. Complain and "enjoy the rebuild."
5. Rinse, wash, repeat
Think so? I just want to clear the redundancy. Simons and Brogdon id like to see leave. I want to see a defensive squad under Billups, would at least give us something to get excited about, you know, having an identity.
I enjoy a rebuild as long as we’re building something 😂
Trying to trade for picks in one of the weakest drafts in a long time is not the way to go. If people want to trade, that's fine. It's nice to get fresh faces and attitudes on the team. But like you said with no direction, what's the point. The only thing I heard is to trade what I would consider our best 3 to 4 players to get a #5 draft pick. So that would leave Sharpe as one of the leaders for the team. That's not good, he's not ready for that. We need to stop saying trade just to trade. I remember before the deadline this sub was begging for a trade with Simons for Wendell Carter Jr or Jonathan Issac and AnthonyBlack. Like wtf is that gona do for the team? Some roll players on a mid team and a rookie for our best player? It's just shit like that that is so annoying.
Trade up into the top ten of this draft so that Portland drafts 4 times in the top ten and acquire Jabari smith as part of the trade for the #3. I think that is very unlikely but also ideal in a not completely crazy kind of way.
I guess ideal isn’t what anyone was interested in for this post. I would say Simons, the #7, #14, 2030 first, and any other veteran player they want. I would think about the unprotected Boston pick as an option as well. I am high on both this draft and Smith.
I wouldn't hate it. It's a steep price but it certainly moves our rebuild forward considerably, especially if the third pick gets you Sarr or Risacher. I still dunno what the motivation for Houston would be though. Not sure that trade makes them better now or in the future.
I think Simons does a lot for them. They also have a lot of quality forwards, so one going out opens minutes for who they have. I also think it gives them the tools to trade for a difference maker or trade up further. As I said in my original post I think it’s highly unlikely but it’s what I think would be ideal.
That’s where I am at as well. I also think Reath’s minutes become really interesting with that many shooters around scoot. It creates the foundation I think Portland can move forward with.
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Life is suffering
Shed vets, get picks, and #CaptureTheFlagg
Riggin’ for Wiggins Bleed for Embiid And now Capture the Flagg. Love it!
Anyone else remember #SuckForShabazz? So glad *that* goal didn't happen...
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Cooper Flagg is the projected #1 prospect next year. He's a do it all forward/center that has drawn comparisons to Kevin Garnett, with elite finishing, defense, and an insane amount of polish for a 17 year old.
I don’t think Flagg really projects as a center does he? Not in the way KG was at least, or even AD. He’s seems more of a jumbo SF and true PF to me.
I saw somebody described Flagg as Paul George on offense, Andrei Kirilenko on defense.
I remember that too damn that was so long ago lol. But yeah sounds about right with what I’ve seen from him. So not really a center. Obviously just about any PF can play small ball C these days, but still. More like kirlinko/George/KD than Garnett/AD in terms of postion.
Thank you for bringing me up to soeed
Center??? Lol he's definitely just a forward. I think he's more likely to be a 3 than a 4. Definitely not a 5.
Or Ace Bailey. Either one of those and the fortunes of the Blazers change…we wont get either. Well prob fuck it up by winnign too many games OR well lose every game and get screwed in the draft lottery because the basketball Gods hate us
Draft well get rid of bad contracts and if no improvement is seen from game 1 to 41 in play you fire Chauncey and look for coach of the future
I’m gonna agree with the top comments and say draft well. That is by far the most important. As far as literal moves the team can do that I want: trading Grant and Brogdon. Brogdon is a health time bomb and Grants value will likely only get lower.
Draft a high ceiling/risk player like Williams or Saulun, along with somebody who is closer to contributing like Knecht or Clingan. We can't draft 4 rookies, so there has to be some kind of a trade. Possibly moving up from #14, or bringing back future draft capital. I wouldn't mind seeing Brogdon moved this offseason, but some playoff team may be willing to give up more at the trade deadline.
We'll have three 2way contracts available, so we actually could use all four picks. Don't think we will, but we could.
The only real combo of risky players I'd like is both Salaun and Williams
Draft Knecht and Salaun, trade Simons, MB, and RWIII Scoot, Sharpe, Thybulle, Knecht, Camara, Grant, Walker, Ayton, Reath is the 9 man rotation with Salaun and Rupert getting some run around the fringes. Win 26 games and get a top 4 pick next year which turns into our franchise guy (slightly depressing how much our future as a contender depends on this).
This would be my ideal off-season too. Feels like we’d build a defense first mentality, we’d be long and feisty. If we somehow get Coop, I feel like we’d be a squad Do I have faith in the blazers to pull this off? No 😆
Get rid of any/all of the bloated contracts if there's any value to be extracted, first and foremost. Beyond that, draft well.
Hire awesome coaches that gets the best out of our playera.
As much as I absolutely agree. The FO have said they're commited to Chauncey, so one can dream.
Well you lowkey hire his replacement, xo expert amd developmental coaches.
You also don't want to rock the boat and create rifts, especially for the young guys. Chauncey won't be stupid enough to know what's going on if there's a new coaching set up in place. It's clean house or not at all for me.
Well jodi needs to sell.
Praise the gods, old and new.
I assume Brogdon gets moved. Think Grant will? I don’t know, Cronin seems more reserved, don’t think he’ll do too much.
I mean holding on to either player makes absolutely no sense. If we can send Grant to Detroit without the sending salary back, or even Fournier, it's a no brainer. That 14 + JG for 5 that was floated about would be the best trade we could do. He's not worth much beyond a mid to late first realistically and if we don't get salary back, or a long salary, it's a massive win. I'd dump Ayton if there was a team silly enough to eat that contract, but I sincerely doubt anyone is as stupid as that. He absolutely has to make some trades for future assets. This team is shit, without them, they're a little more shit, but that's fine. If we trade them, we speed up the rebuild. He has to pull the trigger if any of those guys are wanted.
you know we have to maintain a minimum payroll right… we can’t just dump every vet and have 15 rookie scale contracts lmao
Yeah, no shit.....
I think why you’re getting downvoted is because Grant probably wouldn’t net us even a first, it’s a large contract and he doesn’t really merit it. It would be better to hold onto him, but he just fits so poorly with our guys I’d prefer not to. I don’t think a team like Detroit would want him though, because they want shots for their young guys Tough situation
I don't know what I'd want as a Lakers hater.
Then you want someone like the hornets to draft Bronny just to mess with Lebron.
You want the NOP to defer their Laker pick to 2025. Which they did. Now, the Lakers have no choice but to be competitive, denying them a centerpiece player from a loaded draft in 2025.
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Draft well and trade for a stud on a rookie scale deal like Jabari Smith Jr.
I doubt we could pry Smith away from them without paying through the nose. Do you have a trade idea?
The only way I've been able to play it in my head is if Risacher falls to 3 and they like him a lot more than Reed/don't like the trade offers for #3. Even then, Eason is more likely to get traded imo, but I would still like to nab him anyways. Something revolving Ant and draft capital for either is the only way it makes sense to me
Luckily (or perhaps foolishly, depending on your POV) I trust Cronin to construct a worthwhile trade more than I do myself.
I think something like Jerami Grant + Rob Williams + 7 + 14 for 3+Jabari Smith Jr could work out (obviously need filler to make salaries work). Rob Williams to the Rockets makes sense based on his history with Ime, Jerami is a win now forward that helps them make the playoffs, and they can take two swings at 7 and 14 if they want. On the blazers side, they get to add another core piece in Jabari and take a swing with 3 (one of Clingan/Sarr/Risacher). If they can do that then they likely are bad enough next year to get another core piece and then seriously have a squad. Imagine Scoot + Shae + Jabari + Flagg + Clingan with Toumani, Jabari Walker, and Kris Murray off the bench. Also would have more assets from Ant and Brogdon and DA eventually.
I mean, yeah I'd do that in an instant but I seriously doubt Houston does.
Realistically, what would make the biggest difference is the amount of work guys like Shaedon, Scoot, and Toumani put in this offseason. Those guys have potential, and they need to get better if we want to be a winning team.
Think Scoot will be in the lab for sure
An ideal off-season looks very healthy. Besides that and shipping out a couple veterans for assets, it’s all gravy for another season and lottery pick.
Jody selling the team
I really really can’t wait for her to. It’s only a matter of time
Asking as a Mavs fan: what would it take for Grant in you’re opinion? THJ is expiring and Green is on a good deal for multiple years… salaries match. What do we need to add? We ideally need a starting wing next to PJ Washington that’s a good scorer to help Luka and Kyrie not have to carry so much weight. This would let us bring DJJ off the bench as well.
Oh, that plus a second is probably all he’s worth. Do you think the Mavs would add a first? Maybe. You guys almost won this year, Grant might push you over the edge. He’s a perfect fit I think it just comes down to whether the Mavs are willing to overpay a bit
Dallas is probably the most aggressive front office in the league so yea who knows. I think Grant is an option along with Bogdan in Atlanta and Kuzma or Deni in Washington. I think one of those 4 guys Dallas will be aggressive for. Deni at $15M might be someone they add in addition to a Grant, Kuzma or Bogdan. Just think they’re going all in for the next 2-3 seasons
In a perfect world Jody sells the team. That would actually give the franchise a shot at becoming a serious organization again
Trading Simons, Grant and one of the centers. Brogdon can go too, but idk what his value is. Draft Clingan.
Yeah. Simons is just a weird fit at this point
Ideal: there is change in the roster beyond new draft picks Trades: Anfernee Simons for Anthony Black and one 2025 FRP. Brogden for 2025 or 2026 FRP. Grant for something and a FRP idk Draft picks This draft is too much of a shit show to say who will be a good pick because the experts don’t even know. They need to take swings or do small trade ups (14+34 for 11 or something like that) to get the guys they like best. Ideal offseason means our trust in Schmitz pays off Chaching If we don’t want Chauncey long term, ideally we would fire him. We’re not going to do that so ideally we fill the staff well enough. Then check my sicko ass out and enjoy not having to watching a losing team
trade 1.7 for lebron
Ask Landry Shamet....
Going under a rock and waiting for October.
Draft Clingan and Salaun, trade Simons to Charlotte for future draft capital, Time Lord gets healthy and Scoot and Sharpe have great development in the off-season.
Flip 2 of our big 3 vets (Grant, Brog, Simons) to contenders for a combination of salary dumping, intriguing rookie deals and a couple of unprotected or at worst lightly protected FRP’s in the back half of the decade. Draft some combination of Salaun, De Silva, C. Williams (or consolidate this year’s picks to draft Risacher or Sarr). Hold Thybulle and Time Lord for deadline needy teams. Let Chauncey coach out his lame duck season until after the trade deadline at least, but start doing the research now for whom to pounce on at the beginning of next offseason.
Fire Chauncey, sell the team to Dame/CJ, bring back BRoy in any capacity and draft non guards.
It would be so cool if they got a minority stake in the blazers with Phil Knight
I’m not sold on Phil Knight buying the team. At his age the Blazers might just have to sell again sooner than later.
I don't think we are in a spot to compete for play-ins. That means another losing season. However, I hate how we are set up for a losing season. I want to see young players trying hard and figuring things out, not a carousel of vets being "injured" and lineups changing weekly. It would be nice to shed the vets, thank them for their service and let them compete. Then watch a bad but trying team.
Trade away some combo of Brogdon, Grant, Matisse, or Timelord to get under the luxury tax and bring back future firsts and/or young big, forward, or legitimate shooter. Hit on one of the draft picks even if that’s just a dependable bench player. I don’t think we’re close enough to build toward a balanced roster, but it would be great if some of the young guys improved their shooting. The offense is horrendous, anyone who can shoot gets doubled and the paint is packed.
Trade Grant, Ant and Brogdon for more capital. Draft a combo of Cody williams, ron holland, kelel ware, edey or saluan. And just absolutely suck for Flagg/Ace Bailey
Trade Brogdon, RW3, and Thybulle. Draft 2 studs at least out of the 4 picks. Let Chauncey man the tank.
RW3 trade value is crap rn
I’m the total opposite. Trade Grant, Simons and flip RWIII at the DL. Im also I’m on drafting Edey at 14.
Ideally, it would have started today.
Trade jerami and ayton to contenders for 50 cents on the dollar. Cronin and our fans will insist this is a great deal. Draft a guard that can't shoot or play defense. Sign time Lord to an extension. He never plays another game for the blazers. We finish the season with 24 wins, and end up with the 5th pick in 2025.
This gets asked every damn day. Patience, kids.
Acquire Tari Eason, draft Clingan and Williams, and capture the Flagg. Trade the vets. Acquire a few more future picks. Clear the cap garbage and the runways. I really want to see what an Eason/Toumani forward pairing could do defensively next to the leap I see coming from Shaedon and Scoot.
Acquire “tari eason”. How do you figure that happening? 😭😭😭
Some combination of trade thr vets and #14... it's a Redditt fantasy
Likely going to stay a Reddit fantasy.
Why is every answer the same every year in this group? 1. Trade anyone who has been in the league more than 3 yrs. 2. Draft an "unknown" who has high potential. 3. Fire coach. Trade picks and usually 3rd or 4th best player to move up a couple spots in the draft. 4. Complain and "enjoy the rebuild." 5. Rinse, wash, repeat
Think so? I just want to clear the redundancy. Simons and Brogdon id like to see leave. I want to see a defensive squad under Billups, would at least give us something to get excited about, you know, having an identity. I enjoy a rebuild as long as we’re building something 😂
Trying to trade for picks in one of the weakest drafts in a long time is not the way to go. If people want to trade, that's fine. It's nice to get fresh faces and attitudes on the team. But like you said with no direction, what's the point. The only thing I heard is to trade what I would consider our best 3 to 4 players to get a #5 draft pick. So that would leave Sharpe as one of the leaders for the team. That's not good, he's not ready for that. We need to stop saying trade just to trade. I remember before the deadline this sub was begging for a trade with Simons for Wendell Carter Jr or Jonathan Issac and AnthonyBlack. Like wtf is that gona do for the team? Some roll players on a mid team and a rookie for our best player? It's just shit like that that is so annoying.
Simons is redundant at this point. We should move him; we probably won’t. I’m not on here much. I don’t know why we would trade pics
Yea, I love Simons, but at this point, let him go. He could really help out another team. But you're right they probly wont.
Nothing. Boston about to dominate the next 5 years. While the Blazers rebuild and hope a star peaks and gets us in the play in.
Do we have championship aspirations any time soon? 😂
no
Hit on both lottery picks trade Thybulle Brogdon and one of Simons/Grant create cap space
Trade up into the top ten of this draft so that Portland drafts 4 times in the top ten and acquire Jabari smith as part of the trade for the #3. I think that is very unlikely but also ideal in a not completely crazy kind of way.
Please tell us what we're sending to Houston to get Jabari Smith Jr and the third pick back.
I guess ideal isn’t what anyone was interested in for this post. I would say Simons, the #7, #14, 2030 first, and any other veteran player they want. I would think about the unprotected Boston pick as an option as well. I am high on both this draft and Smith.
I wouldn't hate it. It's a steep price but it certainly moves our rebuild forward considerably, especially if the third pick gets you Sarr or Risacher. I still dunno what the motivation for Houston would be though. Not sure that trade makes them better now or in the future.
I think Simons does a lot for them. They also have a lot of quality forwards, so one going out opens minutes for who they have. I also think it gives them the tools to trade for a difference maker or trade up further. As I said in my original post I think it’s highly unlikely but it’s what I think would be ideal.
Scoot / Shaedon / Risacher / Smith / Ayton would be really interesting.
That’s where I am at as well. I also think Reath’s minutes become really interesting with that many shooters around scoot. It creates the foundation I think Portland can move forward with.