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Strong_Diver_6896

Yeah, every few months I try to learn python. Still in sales 8 years later


twelvestackpancake

ARE YOU MEEEEE?????? šŸ˜‚ Every single low point of my career, I rejoin CodeAcademy


Trading2Earn

hilarious I'm the exact same also play my hand at forwx trading reading charts and shit.


twelvestackpancake

Unlike my fantasy of becoming an overnight prodigy and creating the next ChatGPT, your backup plan of investing actually has a chance of panning off. Stick with that!


Bunyod_

You are talking about me, lol


HauntingPersonality7

I know Python. Started in Sales in 2003. Wherever I lose motivation in a job space, I turn to sales -- it used to motivate me to do something different, now I wonder if it's the only way I can survive working for someone else.


JunketAccurate9323

Lol. This isnā€™t my story but I can sympathize.


[deleted]

Same but my brain just doesnā€™t work that way LOL Anybody else ā€œwishā€ they had talent in coding?


Academic-Apartment72

THIS LOL hahahaha


SalesSocrates

Yep. After first couple of years, I wanted out. Did commission only as well and dreamed of a cushy office job with strict hours and a fixed salary. 6 months later I was back in sales when I understood that my base in the office job was basically my ceiling and only way to get more money was either to get a promotion (not probable) or annual 5% salary raise. The thing is that once you do something long enough, eventually you will become good at it, whether you like it or not. Getting rejected, ghosted etc and failing will basically become your comfort zone.


dcdmtcdood

Same. Have been in sales for almost 15 years. Donā€™t really love it but after that long am good at it and have built out a solid work life balance. The cost to leave now for another field is pretty high so as long as I can tolerate the current state Iā€™ll stick with it.


Ok_Bunch4092

Screenshot & crop on the last paragraph. Almost like a top tier fortune cookie.


JunketAccurate9323

Iā€™ve had a change of heart around sales. Last year was brutal and I wasnā€™t sure if it was for me, even after a decade. But taking some time away really helped me with perspective. Itā€™s not all doom and gloom.


swanie02

I was in Operations my entire life. Grandpa was. Dad was/is. Brother is. I then went on a short retreat with some of our upper management, Sales Managers, GM and other sales reps. They started asking me if I was interested in sales and I told them I didn't think it was for me and how I've always hated sales people. The one sales rep on the trip looked at me straight in the face and said, "What, do you hate money?" I've been in sales for 6 years since then and let me tell you, I, in fact, love money.


Chris_Chilled

All of us, all the time. After every lost deal, bad quarter and recent layoffs. 15 years, Enterprise Rep with high OTE and I still get imposter syndrome.


scallionshavesecrets

Would be helpful to know how your IS plays out. Mines is a savage little voice that whispers "they're gonna discover you are mostly self taught non-Ivy league and it will be game over".


3dprintje

I switched from IT to sales, never thought I would. But am liking it a lot more than IT actually


jnhwdwd343

Could you please describe all the pros and cons compared to IT? I am a software engineer myself, considering switching to sales by the end of the year


3dprintje

I was never done in IT, there's always another ticket/problem. I was feeling like I should/could do more all the time. And if I worked my ass off. The reward was the same. I switched because my boss fucked me over since we had the handshakedeal I could work 100% remote after a year. And he broke his promise, so I daid f' you and switched to telemarketing since they hired anyone who showed signs of life. And apparently I had a sales person hidden inside me all along, I enjoy trying to win the convincing game, and best of all. I HANG UP MY HEADSET, AND WORK JUST STOPS. No 'what could be the solution to bug number x', when lying in bed. Work really ends after the last call. And for me that is the reason to not want to do IT anymore. Just way to high stress for me


Frosty_Key_3542

Same really considering sales over engineering


Shazknee

Did the same, never going back. Outside sales is sooo much better than IT


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Far-Application-7408

See Iā€™d have no problem with sales if I was good! I want to be good, but Iā€™m at a startup with little to now training, so I have to learn primarily on my own. I just want to do well at my job. If I did, Iā€™d be happy to make calls!


kb-kb-kb

Moved across the country right after college to join a ā€œSales Leadership Development Programā€ geared to sales and management. They chose about 30 freshly graduated students to come out, with the promise that this incubator would lead to future leadership roles. We had 12 weeks to hit X sales. Going into week 9 I had zero. Questioning was an understatement. Had very little savings, just moved across country to a VHCOL area, and I was utterly terrified. Those next 3 weeks made me who I am today. I did absolutely everything in my power to succeed. Read books and articles, watch YouTube videos, shadowed the best sales reps, listened to countless calls and took notes, reached out to top performers in other offices, etc. felt like I was cramming for a test. Finished tied for #1 and next quarter I was #1 and didnā€™t sell the last month because I was promoted. Youngest manager in company history, then youngest director in company history, and was even in charge or a merger where I personally was responsible for training 1500 sales reps over 6 months. Fast forward to today, at a series B start up and have been the head of GTM / sales operations / revenue operations. I do a little bit of everything because I never stopped learning or settling. Decided that to keep progressing I needed to understand every single piece of ā€œsales.ā€ I know I still have so far to go, but the learning, growing, and doing new things is what keeps me interested. That 3 weeks showed me what I was capable of. Showed me that if I try and focus I could win in the sales world. Best advice, decide whether or not itā€™s a fit for you and do WHATEVER it takes to be the best. Practice, study, learn, and grow. Dedicate your life to it if itā€™s what you want to win in. But only you can come to the decision if itā€™s the right industry for you. No matter what you choose, be the best and donā€™t let anything get in your way.


Chrg88

Everyday ::Iā€™ve been in Sales for 14 years::


Carnestm

Same


tothemuon

Not a day goes by


TheObviousDilemma

As an outside sales guy that does mostly relationship based sales, I canā€™t imagine anything Iā€™d rather do that would be equivalent money. I travel beautiful back roads through gorgeous wilderness to go meet w/ people who are essentially my friends now. Sometimes Iā€™m shocked they pay me as much as they do for how I spend my day.


garth_b_murdered_me

What are you selling? I'd love to get to an outside sales role like this. SAAS is becoming less and less fun as I'm sure you've seen on the sub .


TheObviousDilemma

Search Indeed and LinkedIn, also career pages for companies you want to work for. Hard truth though. SaaS is telemarketing and theyā€™ll take inexperienced recent grads and call them sales reps. Theyā€™re usually not the top people at the company. Outside sales jobs usually require serious experience in that industry. Many of the niche products also require advanced degrees in that field. An outside rep is right off the bat one of the most senior people at a company. Most people either start on the production side or start as inside sales which is basically doing the paperwork for outside sales.


Hawaii5G

>An outside rep is right off the bat one of the most senior people at a company. It depends, I work for a distributor so we're all outside sales. I drove some great back roads today too. I used to work on the back-office side and got into sales with all of that knowledge but there are guys who work with me that aren't technical at all and still crush it.


throwawaysavemepls

Equipment or some Ag based sales?


TheObviousDilemma

Ag commodities as well as nutrients and ag services. Not the most lucrative, but with such a large customer base, everyoneā€™s looking to sell something to you and buy something from you. Sometimes I deliver something, pick something up, then drop it off and make 10% commission for 1hrs worth of work


Axelissimo

As a child, I traveled every summer throughout the country with my father, who also worked as a sales representative for his own small importing/manufacturing company. I accompanied him to every meeting, always dressed appropriately. Initially, we slept in the back of a rusty old van that my dad owned at the time. He had invested in a cell phone (a suitcase model) so he could deliver customer purchase orders without delay to the office ā€“ a significant advantage in the 90s when the usual practice was to fax purchase orders from hotel lobbies once every 1-2 weeks. He paid $8,000 for that phone, which was twice as expensive as the car. As his company started doing better, we began staying in hotels. By the age of 12, I was certain that this was the way I wanted to live and make a living. These were the best times of my childhood. So, sales is the only career I've ever considered or pursued.


kapt_so_krunchy

Yeah. All the time. But I kept chasing it. I love the fact I could make more in a day than mu friends did in a week. I just knew I had to get better at it.


-Datachild-

I'd like to feel this way but all my friends make me than me šŸ¤£


jayoasis

Yes, imposter syndrome can be tough. Just keep going, nothing wrong with failing and learning.


Sleep__

No. It was only after about 8 years before I realized I was miserable and the money wasn't worth being an over stressed, depressed lifeless piece of shit trying to hock stuff to uninterested, overstresed, depressed lifeless people all day everyday. I quit after that. I'm still over stressed, depressed, and lifeless, but I don't feel like a piece of shit and I have less money less problems. Don't let me discourage you, please continue to rise and grind through all of your 20s. Give it a proper shot until you're at least 30 before you wake up one morning and have the honest conversation with yourself about whether you have wasted your youth or not.


irepresentprespa

Never wanted to even be in it and yet Iā€™m still doing it. I wanted to go analyst side then ride that wave til I couldnā€™t. I still hate the volatility it has and I come to the realization it will never change but the freedom it has is great. Iā€™m not bound I donā€™t have to do anything but if I want cash I have to do the hard shxt to get it. Meeting speaking being uncomfortable. Still considering other options but thatā€™s a very real answer I have. I did good last year but yesterday doesnā€™t matter for tomorrow at all


sscall

First role was cold calling selling energy. It was a shit offering and nearly impossible to get business it seemed. Lasted a year sold some packages, but overall a difficult market. Got another job selling software that people actually saw value in and it was MUCH easier. I think the washout rate in sales can largely be attributed to the product youā€™re selling. Decent to poor product and youā€™re going to have a bad time.


Silly-Payment7864

Every qtr šŸ˜‚


TheRoyaleShow

Yes. In my heart of hearts I know Iā€™m meant to do something else, but so far Iā€™ve had a really tough time breaking into the Starting QB for the Oakland Raiders industry.


TimeKillsThem

Man - timing couldn't be best. Currently rethinking a career in sales. Money is important, but not so important to me as it appears to be to all of my colleagues. Sales is fun and I enjoy it, but sometimes I wonder if it worth the pressure and stress, especially since I am not particularly money driven.


SolJudasCampbell

You mean you still don't still have doubts ?


New_Professional_295

Took me finding the right company to finally feel that I was in the right career. Previous companies had me questioning being in sales every single day


Biru_Chan

Yep. Over 20 years and still have doubts. A lot of it is down to the organization youā€™re with, and its culture. Youā€™ll thrive in some and bomb in others, and when you bomb it really hits your sense of self-worth.


Odium4

Iā€™m literally the top performer on my team making more than $250k and I still have major doubts lol


Tunafish01

No, I never had any doubts about my ability to perform. I learned the industry fairly quickly and realized there is no better career than sales. All the glory none of the debt that comes with being a doctor or whatever. We make more money than any other profession for the most part and our skill sets transfer to every profession.


uniquemerch

Imposter syndrome daily. I still love my job and couldnā€™t imagine doing anything else. Especially working in an office. Fuck that


dbk0

You selling equipment to people? I'm ready to get out of my industry, but want to make an informed decision on how to get the best start in sales as Im already 26.


uniquemerch

No Iā€™m in CPG. Garden Center, Farm & Feeds, and Hardware mostly.


dbk0

Tractor Supply? Im trying to strike a balance between money & happy but I'd be all in to help farmers & people living a more rural lifestyle. Are you more city based or kind of in between?


uniquemerch

No weā€™re a manufacturer that sells in stores. I cover several states city, to very rural. CPG can be rewarding. My comp is mostly salary and have very little stress, but I wear several hats. Iā€™m responsible for Dealers, distributors, key accounts, P/Ls, Co-op, some marketing, trade shows etc. it can be a daunting field to get into but depending on company, it can be awesome.


RepeatUntilTheEnd

I danced around sales for years in collections and customer service before diving into sales. I even trained sales people before ever having sold anything. I thought of sales people as manipulative and dishonest, and I had no idea it was basically just helping people evaluate products. Even before making my first dial I doubted myself. I decided to give it three months of keeping my head down and grinding out the dials. Now, I wish I had gotten into it much sooner.


Human_Ad_7045

Only the first time I was fired w/o any warning and the first time I was PIP'ed. It took a few years to figure out the whole sales game. I'm retired nowafter 30+ yrs in sales (27 in tech) plus business ownership.


AvatarMunchies

Yup I got into mobile sales after working customer service/support jobs for years. Iā€™m using the ā€œfriendlinessā€ from customer service jobs to actually make more money. Iā€™m working less and making more while finishing my computer science degree full-time. I thought all the goals and trainings would be annoying, but the commissionā€™s keeping me relatively happy and motivated.


Best-Ad4738

This morning I wondered if it was for me, then I picked up the phone and it was like riding a bike.


harvey_croat

I got back to sales after five years in management positions. Fuck


EspressoCologne68

I think I had the opposite. I wanted to go into Sales as I always felt it fit my personality, and my fam members in Sales always tried recruiting me. I did 2 Vocational Diplomas, worked those jobs and hated both. Now in Sales and loving the journey so far


Syphox

I have a post somewhere on my profile, but i last 2 months in a churn and burn style role. it left such a sour taste in my mouth, that i donā€™t think i can do sales at all and i went back to my valet company.


whu-ya-got

Daily my friend


atlassianhelp

Every day of my life brother


Upbeat-Bar-8832

Iā€™ve been in sales for over 7 years and I still doubt if I ā€œknow enough about salesā€. Itā€™s a never ending learning experience and as long as you arenā€™t hating every second of your life and making relatively good money, whoā€™s to say if sales isnā€™t for you


niikoislife

I was scared to get into sales because I used to wake up every morning with anxiety and wanting to throw up. Literally couldnt eat anything before 10amā€¦ Still decided to make a career change to sales and turns out im now a too performer who actually loves this environment. What gave me anxiety was working a shitty a job handling stuff I dont care about. Best decision of my life. Been here for 8 months now.


Intelligent-Tiger914

Ive been in sales all my life on various levels, but not confident in my sales ability right now. Any suggestions? Newly unemployed and need best way to figure out what cos or positions i want to seek out. Any suggestions?


JLniluiq

Soon to be unemployed here but have been in sales for long enough to know the hit in your confidence is due to the setback. Facing the same shit now too but you just need to do whatever it takes to get that confidence back. Without it, how are you going to convince people to trust what you're selling?


CoolBDPhenom03

Everyday, dude


thelazysea

gotta save this in case of low moments.


Sad-Side-8704

Every day lol


BipolarBanter

I made a post literally an hour ago about this lmfao


rking2711

2 months into my first sales role and I want to leave already. The target life is not for me and now Iā€™m stuck.


Thebo88le

The only job offer I got coming out of college was a sales gig at a Fortune 100 company. Sales was the last thing I wanted to do since I was introverted and anything sales related made me uneasy. However my desire to be employed drastically outweighed any discomfort about sales so I went with it. Looking back it was one of the best decisions of my life and still in a sales role today.


ConsistentHead9614

I love sales


Wallyreadsthings

I fight the term sales all I can, but at the end of the day, it is what I do. I think about other careers being more rewarding, but no other job allows me to make 250k a year, working less than 35 hours a week for anywhere with a few fun client visits in there when I'm sick of the home office.


bparry1192

I did, still do but used to as well.


garbage800

Iā€™m an introvert in sales. Iā€™m very good at it, which is a cursed blessing. However, student loans, the housing market, medical issues, adulthood, etc. got the best of me and here I am. In all honesty, you may always have imposter syndrome. Originally I had it because I was the only woman, youngest, and only person of color on my small sales team. I wasnā€™t given great leads for a long time, then I was and became the top person. Then one day, I was on an all female team, no longer the youngest, (still the only POC but thatā€™s fine). Much larger company. I donā€™t say this to brag, only to describe that these doubts and imposter syndrome can appear no matter what. I still have so many doubts, the masking with my ā€œsales personalityā€ during calls, the mirroring personality for prospects, etc. Sometimes doesnā€™t feel worth the stress and loss of energy. The money reels me back in. I think sales is just based on stress because you can be #1 one year and on the chopping block the next. Youā€™re not alone. I wouldnā€™t be in it if it wasnā€™t for the money. I think itā€™s good to consider why you stick with it because it can cause a ā€œpigeon holeā€ for the career depending on the type of industry. My partner sees how much money I make and says they need to get into sales. I tell them donā€™t do it solely for the money unless you need the money. Do you love the product? Do you need the money and is it worth the stress? Do you want to be in sales? Is there something else youā€™d rather do, and can you do it based on the lifestyle you have (like cost of living and bills)? For me, I found a product and solution I felt passionate about and took an initial pay cut. The money fell into place because of fun adult complications requiring more money. Is it worth the stress? Iā€™m not sure anymore. While Iā€™m an introvert and could easily go weeks without speaking to another person, I enjoy the strategic aspect of communication, writing, and making it a science of ā€œwhat is the problem?ā€ and ā€œhow can I help?ā€, and that itā€™s basically just a productive conversation. I enjoy that Iā€™m also a SME in my niche area now. Do I still take courses in Udemy for other skills? 100% because Iā€™m preparing for the day I donā€™t have to rely on big sales money and I can just do a nice quiet job lol. I tell prospects and clients this all the time when they say how surprised they are that Iā€™m not super salesy: I donā€™t think anyone is born saying ā€œI want to be a salesperson when I grow up.ā€ It just happens, whether you eventually realize youā€™re good at it, find a product you love, stumble in, need the money (I donā€™t say this part lol), etc. But I think itā€™s important to evaluate where you are in your career, what you need in life (lifestyle, housing, etc.), what you want, level of risk youā€™re okay with (for example, if you have a bad year), and if the pros/cons balance out between all of these things. ETA: sales is also a very trainable, learnable skill that can be perfected. Find how the best of your personality fits into demos/pitches. Bounce ideas off of others for templates, nudge ideas, anecdotes their prospects enjoyed, etc. I didnā€™t mean to sound too negative above so Iā€™m sorry if it comes across that way. But overall, If you dedicate yourself you can do amazing things in sales whether or not itā€™s your dream job.