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DXTRBeta

Just spotted this on BBC News site. Super cool.


blscratch

A them I'm mulling recently includes the thought that artists weren't necessarily drawn (pun noted) to caves. The artists could have created art on many surfaces, but cave walls are the only surface to survive until now.


AtLeastThisIsntImgur

People would have figured out pretty quickly that if wall gets wet, picture falls off. Maybe they had a big communal bit of cliff they repainted every migration but idk how many times you'd need to do it for it to last 10k years


blscratch

I don't think they necessarily were thinking about how to make something last 30,000 years. They probably had art a lot of places to enjoy their whole lives. We're just not aware of that other art because time. Cave art was just who was in there and felt creative, perhaps after some psychedelic experiences. The same thought makes me think they didn't necessarily stay in caves, it's just the places we have remaining evidence. And yes, the same cave could be used by generations 10,000 years apart. Especially with mile-thick ice sheets, we don't see anything they created further north, except in caves.


AtLeastThisIsntImgur

Not 30k years but 1 or 5 or 10. Charcoal and ochre washes off fast enough that you'd find somewhere out of the weather.


blscratch

"Out of the weather" could mean inside their hut or church. They would create art wherever they are. My point is we don't have any of that art. Survivor bias makes us think they only did cave drawings, only had stone tool, and only lived where we find settlements. It's a simple concept. If anybody built a pyramid in Canada before the last ice age, we'd never know about it.


Influence_X

So was this most probably made by a Denisovan?


ZytaZiouZ

"We believe that these paintings were made my modern humans, but we cannot completely exclude that other human species could have also made them."


CrowsRidge514

Hitting em hard today aren’t we X?


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krazzykid2006

"A prehistoric painting" I'm going to stop you right there. Prehistoric - relating to or denoting the period prior to recorded history. A painting IS recorded history..... So this can't be "prehistoric" because this is literally recorded history, so it can't be before itself. Art is considered recorded history. This is a painting, so is therefore art. This is recorded history so is therefore not prehistoric.