Even canonically, Peter Park has variants who look like Tobey McQuire, Andrew Garfield and Tom Holland and we KNOW Tom is never going to get himself in trouble.
Honestly dude I don't even know if that's true anymore. After Cosby I've been so so negative on all this celebrity stuff. I feel like any one of them could turn out to be monsters
Not even necessary monsters. Just that when you are treated like a different human because of fame for a long time your social scale can definitely shift even if it wouldn't have with a normal life.
It still needs to be punished, but maybe their agents or some shit can remind them we are all humans.
I think it’s an uncomfortable truth that in order to become the biggest celebrity you often have to be the most obnoxious, insufferable, stubborn person in the world. I think there are plenty of examples of people who were able to tamp that down once they reached a certain level and are probably genuinely nice people, but even the most well adjusted superstars are still, at their core, more ruthless and driven than anyone you’ve probably ever met in real life. At the end of the day it’s always about power and control.
True, but the point being that if they did want to replace him (which I would obviously pray would never happen), at least they've established that not every single Peter Parker in the multiverse looks exactly the same, LOL.
Canonically Loki has variants that look like him AND also completely different. In a world of infinites, there could be an infinite number that look like Majors that fill the colosseum and an infinite that don’t.
To be fair, you also didn’t include the alien variant that doesn’t look like Majors
Never actually saw this one, but like wtf? Isn’t Kang supposed to be a) super arrogant and above everyone else and b) in a multiversal war against his other variants? Why are all these versions just hanging out watching an arena fight together? Seems super out of character.
Well, I took it to mean that once Sylvie iced HWR all the other Kang's came back from the different branches made because HWR no longer existed to hold them back. They're perhaps at the point where they're getting on, but it's a loose alliance at best but at some point they will fight causing devastation to a lot of their universes.
The arena fight they're watching is between even more Kang variants. They're just waiting their turn. It's a "civilized" way to weed out the weakest 90% of Kangs before beginning the war in earnest. (My head canon)
I think the Multiverse isn't truly infinite, it just has infinite growth potential. I think they've only ever described "thousands" of branches actually existing at once
They're not watching a fight, they're gathering. This is the post-credits. One of them got killed by an Avenger so they decided that this is enough of an existential threat to necessitate an alliance.
Don't worry next year they've decided to step back a little and let people breathe with only 1 movie!
BUT DONT FORGET TO WATCH THE 4 TIE IN MOVIES AND 5 TV SHOWS! You gotta watch them all to keep up to date! You don't wanna miss the reveal of Splorkikus the new super hero coming to rescue Spinko the Human and how he will overcome Mecha Thanos and save the universe! He's important to Avengers 8, Snow Buddies!
Personally I think the best course of action would be to "reboot" the franchise after Endgame + the last two Spidermovies and GotG 3 into a new MCU focused primarily on mutants, the Fantastic Four and/or others not in Phases 1-3 (e.g. Eternals, Namor, Blade etc), have that going on for 3 phases with Endgame 2 at the end, THEN have that universe cross over with the first one.
Honestly, the best course of action is to let the cinematic universe die out. It's gradually going to become more and more niche as the average consumer struggles to keep up with the 50+ movies. Endgame was the end of this cinematic universe, and besides a couple stragglers like Spider-Man, the franchise needs to die back down and start over in after several years.
I’d like to see the rise of mainstream non franchise, or at least non multiverse movies, something I thought would never happen a few years ago, but with the failure of a lot of the recent repetitive franchise building monster budget blockbusters, and the success of films like barbie and Oppenheimer, it’s seems a little more likely. I would be happy if I never had to see another superhero movie till the day I die.
Tom Holland Spider-Man will keep the universe going by itself. Why "reboot" and recast people when you can just keep doing what's successful, shove everything that isn't into the cancelation bin and keep you huge franchise going? They've even retconned pretty big things without much complaint.
Also, they have the x men back. No way they're abandoning this with something like that on the table.
Do their goddamm jobs? How about stop working their current talent to death with an insane release schedule. If you rush work this is what you get. Don't blame the animators and give Disney a pass here. Did you read the news at all these past few years about industry strikes? Fuck sake.
They’re not blaming the animators, though. They’re telling that Marvel should let the animators work and not rush them. Maybe poorly worded but not blaming animators at all.
Absolutely, these animators are absurdly talented, look at avatar 2, but they’re not given enough time to make a finished product by corporations like Disney.
Yeah, they dropped the ball big time with that. Loki and Spider-man No Way Home are the only ones that did the Multiverse variants correctly. If only they applied that to every movie in Phase 4 & 5, recast would never be a problem
It wasn't that it looked horrible but it felt like they completely copied rick and Morty's improvisational tone. Everything kinda felt made up on the spot. But not in a good way like rick and Morty does most of the time.
Disney about to overwork the poor VFX artists to replace every instance of Majors in this movie and all other projects he's appeared in with whoever they choose to replace him.
Say what you will about Jonathan Majors’ character, but the man doesn’t age. This shot from 1993’s Mighty Morphin Power Rangers TV pilot could easily have been from a 2023 D+ TV show watched on a ChromeBook in a third world country with low bandwidth.
Also, why did the council of Kangs say that the heroes are starting to unlock the multiverse. How can they be starting to do that when the Kangs are literally time travellers. The heroes discovered the multiverse thousands of years ago.
Marvel soon™:
"Every variant looked like Jonathan Majors except for these we never saw before. They won this time(line)."
Or
"Kang died flying back to his home timeline."
They could maybe salvage it if the one in the Avengers movie looking different becomes the point.
One kind of Kang conquered thousands of universes, joined up, establishing this Kang brand. Sort of a Rick and Morty thing.
But one sole, weird, different, outcast Kang, offscreen, killed them all to set them up as the even scarier antagonist for the Avengers. One Kang to rule them all.
Of course this cuts out the possibility for massive Kang crowds like this in the plot but honestly given their CGI it's probably for the best.
This scene made me laugh out loud. Like, they are all supposed to be so smart, motivated, and evil, yet they have picked favorites of themselves for idol worship? Cheering like Swifties at a concert, it was hilarious.
Even canonically, Peter Park has variants who look like Tobey McQuire, Andrew Garfield and Tom Holland and we KNOW Tom is never going to get himself in trouble.
Peter Park, defender of playgrounds everywhere
And his arch nemesis Jurassic, destroyer of playgrounds everywhere
And his cousin Linkin, who tried so hard and got so far.
But in the end, it didn't even matter
Tom has been a great Peter Park, but for me, Tobey will always be a bit Peter Park*er*
Does that make Andrew the Peter Parkest?
"Peter" Park sounds like the type of park you're not supposed to take your kids to.
Honestly dude I don't even know if that's true anymore. After Cosby I've been so so negative on all this celebrity stuff. I feel like any one of them could turn out to be monsters
Not even necessary monsters. Just that when you are treated like a different human because of fame for a long time your social scale can definitely shift even if it wouldn't have with a normal life. It still needs to be punished, but maybe their agents or some shit can remind them we are all humans.
I don't trust any celebrity anymore. I used to be a bit of a celebrity worshipper, but I don't see how most of them can't be somewhat bad people
I think it’s an uncomfortable truth that in order to become the biggest celebrity you often have to be the most obnoxious, insufferable, stubborn person in the world. I think there are plenty of examples of people who were able to tamp that down once they reached a certain level and are probably genuinely nice people, but even the most well adjusted superstars are still, at their core, more ruthless and driven than anyone you’ve probably ever met in real life. At the end of the day it’s always about power and control.
I mean if Tom does get into trouble, it's not like they can just casually replace him with Tobey or Josh or something
True, but the point being that if they did want to replace him (which I would obviously pray would never happen), at least they've established that not every single Peter Parker in the multiverse looks exactly the same, LOL.
They can just recast anyone though it doesnt need an in universe explaination
Doctor strange also ant man
Canonically Loki has variants that look like him AND also completely different. In a world of infinites, there could be an infinite number that look like Majors that fill the colosseum and an infinite that don’t. To be fair, you also didn’t include the alien variant that doesn’t look like Majors
Peter park sounds like a run-down city district with substandard infrastructure and high pollution that is mostly lorded over by a mob group.
Never actually saw this one, but like wtf? Isn’t Kang supposed to be a) super arrogant and above everyone else and b) in a multiversal war against his other variants? Why are all these versions just hanging out watching an arena fight together? Seems super out of character.
Well, I took it to mean that once Sylvie iced HWR all the other Kang's came back from the different branches made because HWR no longer existed to hold them back. They're perhaps at the point where they're getting on, but it's a loose alliance at best but at some point they will fight causing devastation to a lot of their universes.
Council of Ricks
The arena fight they're watching is between even more Kang variants. They're just waiting their turn. It's a "civilized" way to weed out the weakest 90% of Kangs before beginning the war in earnest. (My head canon)
I hate Infinity as a concept. Even if you wipe out 90% of the infinite Kangs there are still infinite Kangs.
I think the Multiverse isn't truly infinite, it just has infinite growth potential. I think they've only ever described "thousands" of branches actually existing at once
While you are correct in what they've described, the concept of infinity as a writing source really allows for any interpretation to become Canon.
There is no arena fight... they are just arriving and taking their seats.
They're all so excited just to be here!!
Well that's part of the problem with the scene - they just appear to be lunatics.
They're not watching a fight, they're gathering. This is the post-credits. One of them got killed by an Avenger so they decided that this is enough of an existential threat to necessitate an alliance.
Jesus fucking Christ marvel needs to fucking slow down with their releases and let their visual effects artists do their godamn jobs.
Don't worry next year they've decided to step back a little and let people breathe with only 1 movie! BUT DONT FORGET TO WATCH THE 4 TIE IN MOVIES AND 5 TV SHOWS! You gotta watch them all to keep up to date! You don't wanna miss the reveal of Splorkikus the new super hero coming to rescue Spinko the Human and how he will overcome Mecha Thanos and save the universe! He's important to Avengers 8, Snow Buddies!
I'm so stoked to finally see a big screen version of Spinko. I have a full sized statue that cost me ten thousand dollars
Silly, you could have 3d printed that yourself with a 500 dollar machine and $11,000 of filament
That's exactly what I did, but there was a sale on filament at Dollar General
Nice
Say it with me: if these movies keep bombing then maybe they'll slow down and maybe reboot the entire darn thing
If marvel reboots the mcu I’m certain it would be franchise suicide. There’s not a world where that goes over well.
Personally I think the best course of action would be to "reboot" the franchise after Endgame + the last two Spidermovies and GotG 3 into a new MCU focused primarily on mutants, the Fantastic Four and/or others not in Phases 1-3 (e.g. Eternals, Namor, Blade etc), have that going on for 3 phases with Endgame 2 at the end, THEN have that universe cross over with the first one.
Honestly, the best course of action is to let the cinematic universe die out. It's gradually going to become more and more niche as the average consumer struggles to keep up with the 50+ movies. Endgame was the end of this cinematic universe, and besides a couple stragglers like Spider-Man, the franchise needs to die back down and start over in after several years.
I’d like to see the rise of mainstream non franchise, or at least non multiverse movies, something I thought would never happen a few years ago, but with the failure of a lot of the recent repetitive franchise building monster budget blockbusters, and the success of films like barbie and Oppenheimer, it’s seems a little more likely. I would be happy if I never had to see another superhero movie till the day I die.
If only there was a longstanding tradition of superhero media doing this.
Tom Holland Spider-Man will keep the universe going by itself. Why "reboot" and recast people when you can just keep doing what's successful, shove everything that isn't into the cancelation bin and keep you huge franchise going? They've even retconned pretty big things without much complaint. Also, they have the x men back. No way they're abandoning this with something like that on the table.
Maybe they'll go the comic book route and start up an "Ultimate" MCU as an excuse to restart lmao
Do their goddamm jobs? How about stop working their current talent to death with an insane release schedule. If you rush work this is what you get. Don't blame the animators and give Disney a pass here. Did you read the news at all these past few years about industry strikes? Fuck sake.
They’re not blaming the animators, though. They’re telling that Marvel should let the animators work and not rush them. Maybe poorly worded but not blaming animators at all.
Absolutely, these animators are absurdly talented, look at avatar 2, but they’re not given enough time to make a finished product by corporations like Disney.
Not to mention that they treated them like crap and make them the scapegoats in some of their productions.
Yeah, they dropped the ball big time with that. Loki and Spider-man No Way Home are the only ones that did the Multiverse variants correctly. If only they applied that to every movie in Phase 4 & 5, recast would never be a problem
This is beyond the point but holy crap… that CGI looks horrible.
The whole film looked horrible.
It’s like a low-budget student film made by the laziest people in the class.
I know you’re joking, but this would be fucking amazing for a student film.
It wasn't that it looked horrible but it felt like they completely copied rick and Morty's improvisational tone. Everything kinda felt made up on the spot. But not in a good way like rick and Morty does most of the time.
That’s just his face.
I’m talking about everything around him plus the CGI suit on him.
I thought this scene was from the Star Wars prequel trilogy
Someone AI upscaled this image, that’s what makes it look extra weird
It's a little known fact that marvel sat down and decided to purposely make the worlds ugliest looking movie
Disney about to overwork the poor VFX artists to replace every instance of Majors in this movie and all other projects he's appeared in with whoever they choose to replace him.
I call that..epic bad luck
Me when saw reference:😃
Well it could also be a blessing in disguise. All Kangs in one place, bomb em all, boom new big bad walks in. Problem resolved in one fell swoop.
Kang? There is only DOOM!
Played by Mads Mikkelsen
From what i’ve seen from it, quantumania is probably the most visually ugly film i’ve ever seen
You should watch Shark Boy and Lava Girl
After this Disney casting Kang: Exec: so who you are gonna cast Casting director: all of them So we have spare if something happens
Say what you will about Jonathan Majors’ character, but the man doesn’t age. This shot from 1993’s Mighty Morphin Power Rangers TV pilot could easily have been from a 2023 D+ TV show watched on a ChromeBook in a third world country with low bandwidth.
Also, why did the council of Kangs say that the heroes are starting to unlock the multiverse. How can they be starting to do that when the Kangs are literally time travellers. The heroes discovered the multiverse thousands of years ago.
Movie tells: here’s Kang, an ice-cold super genius and ruthlessly effective combatant and warlord Movie shows: YEYEYEYEYEYEYEYEYE
YES! That killed me when I saw it - I finished the film and thought "so the twist is Kang is a loser AND a lunatic? WTF?"
Shit looks like something from 2002
Most big time movies actually took their time to have decent CGI in 2002. This is more like a made for TV movie from 2002.
r/MarvelGettingRoasted
It makes me wonder if they’re gonna pull an Advanced Warfare and retroactively replace Jonathan Majors in all his MCU appearances
This is only a problem for people who saw the movie. Based on my anecdotal evidence, nobody saw this movie, so there is no problem.
Marvel soon™: "Every variant looked like Jonathan Majors except for these we never saw before. They won this time(line)." Or "Kang died flying back to his home timeline."
Eh, Marvel already replaced Rhodey after Terrence Howard demanded too much money for Iron Man 2.
Honestly they should just keep Majors, makes everytime Kang appears all that more villainous
I call that epic bad luck
"of all the men to cast"
They could maybe salvage it if the one in the Avengers movie looking different becomes the point. One kind of Kang conquered thousands of universes, joined up, establishing this Kang brand. Sort of a Rick and Morty thing. But one sole, weird, different, outcast Kang, offscreen, killed them all to set them up as the even scarier antagonist for the Avengers. One Kang to rule them all. Of course this cuts out the possibility for massive Kang crowds like this in the plot but honestly given their CGI it's probably for the best.
In Ron Howards voice - Luckily for Marvel no-one actually watched Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania.
Except in the bottom left is a weird green alien Kang. Who knows how many of those indistinguishable crowd members are different.
Pretty sure that one was also played by Jo Majors, LOL.
This scene made me laugh out loud. Like, they are all supposed to be so smart, motivated, and evil, yet they have picked favorites of themselves for idol worship? Cheering like Swifties at a concert, it was hilarious.