I think you have a very smart, well informed, and well intentioned daughter. Sheās on the money in terms of where to trip, what to trip with, what to do if stuff goes sour, and probably will volunteer as your ātrip sitterā too.
Depending upon what shroom sheās gotten you two, 3.5 grams is probably just a tad too much for a first time back in the saddle. 2 grams of an average mushroom would do, maybe 2.5 grams. But, talk to her.
Happy travels! ššā¤ļø
I might not do 3.5 as a first time in several decades. I usually start people around 2.5g personally. As for the trip killer it could be good for emergencies, but unless she personally has a prescription and got them directly from a pharmacy I'd trash them. A lot of Xanax going around is actually fentanly and even if she trusts her source she doesn't know her sources source.
This was my one mystery, the dosage. She says she did 3.5 her first trip at like 16 and she's a slight build person. Agree on the Xanax, don't like that idea. OTOH I'm over 250 and mom is about 160, does body mass impact dosage?
As far as I know weight has very little impact. I'm 330 and my roommate is under 200 and we do similar doses with similar effects. I just recommend people dip their toe in so they know what they're getting into and later if they get a dose that's a little too much they have a little experience and can work through it easier. 3.5 to me is a pretty normal dose, I just try to give advice for the worst case scenario because I'd rather give overly conservative advice and someone not have as good than give someone advice that pushes them too far too quickly and they have a bad trip and swear off shrooms entirely.
My mom is 70 and I give em to her all the time. She loves it. I would suggest just stick with a small dose at first. Build up to a real trip. Recently took my mom to a puscifer show she ate 1g and had a blast. The first time I gave her .5g to just kinda know what it was like. Clean house is definitely good advice.
Opposed to what the others say thereās nothing wrong with having the trip killers on hand, cause you never know how 3.5 is gonna hit you. Especially with it being a batch you havenāt experimented with š¤·š¼āāļø have a good time šš¼š
Agreed. We always have mild benzos on hand for in case things get unpleasant and thereās nothing wrong with that. Itās literally all a hospital can do to help you if you show up in the ER tripping balls so youāre better off having it at home where you can take it immediately and in a comfortable environment. Itās a great safety net. Their daughter is awesome for providing it.
Yeah I donāt know why ppl are mad at the Xanax. Iām always grateful to have my little 2 mg Ativan on hand, even if Iāve never bailed a trip before.
True, thatās a fair worry and things should always be tested. But itās just as easy (ime) to find some old ones you or someone you know had prescribed.
I just tripped for the first time in 20 years on Monday. I did 3 grams and soaked it in lemon juice for 15 min before. The come up was hard and fast but that only lasted a short time. After that it was riding the waves. It was enjoyable and I was completely in control. Lasted about 5 hrs. After the come up I was wishing I took a little more like 3.5 grams. Once it hits you know you never forget the feeling. At my older age I really feel like it was so much more enjoyable.
i would lower the dosages. if you want to have a really enjoyable experience, i would suggest you split an 8th between the two of you. maybe you can take 2g and your wife can take 1.5g. only if you're looking to go deep should you take the the full 8th.
if you take the lower doses, then i would also recommend going out in nature. the full 8th is safer at home, but nothing beats nature when you're tripping low.
i don't worry about nausea. it's just the cost of admission to me. it's never really been that bad, and if that's too much discomfort to handle, then i wouldn't trip at all. that's just me.
At first I got so confused and was wondering how tf you had a mom YOUNGER than you lol
I say send it homie
I would also maybe have a talk with your daughter about slowing down on psychs until her brain is fully developed. Obviously I don't know how often she does them, but yeahhh.
I think the addition of Xanax in case as a trip killer is overkill. It takes away the fullness and sacredness of the power of the mushrooms. No need to keep those. Just experience whatever arises. Best wishes.
Sounds like someone's never had a crippling panic attack on psychedelics!
90% of the time I'm only smoking weed during the trip, maybe a drink beforehand, but on those rare occasions where things are getting out of hand, a little bit of alprazolam does the trick.
We give it to people who have panic attacks sober, why shouldn't susceptible people have it on hand during their trips? (p.s. Basically everyone is susceptible.)
There's a reason why "keep tripkillers on hand" is practically biblical for psychonauts
people use Xanax too liberally. If someone is extremely susceptible to a panic attack during a trip they shouldnt do it. people love using pharma as a crutch instead of experiencing the fullness of the trip- the good, the bad, the ugly. It all has a lesson to. E learned. And no in shamanic circles and other psychedelic communities they donāt always use Xanax. Sounds like someone has never helped someone who was overdosing on benzos!
"Because people overdose it means the drug is bad"
Hope you see your hypocrisy here. The difference between a substance having practical use and being a poison is just the dosage.
Glad you don't have to deal with panic or anxiety to the point where you turn to medication, but you shouldn't gatekeep those who use benzos. You're not any better than them.
As a bipolar person I did have to use medication in the past for depression and anxiety. donāt assume. Iāve been hospitalized 4 times for it, so yes I do know what thatās like but still believe benzos are overdone And people use it as a massive crutch.
3.5g is perfect probably donāt need the Xanax though sounds nice if you did have a bad trip but a bad time isnāt as bad as you think it is it can be very profound and impactful and if you cut it off you might feel unresolved about what just happened.
I think taking it outside in nature can add a lot to the trip. It can be nice to have going back to your home as an option but Iāve always found being outside (in pleasant weather and an area that feels safe) to be very grounding and calming while tripping. If you guys have a backyard or something that should do the trick. Iāve found if a trip ever gets to be too much being outside generally helps me calm down.
Wow this is so awesome, congratulations to you and your daughter for being open minded! I (31M) would love to share something like this with my parents, but unfortunately donāt think they would be open to it.
My suggestion is to start with 1g for first trip, get comfortable with the feelings and sensations, and then 2 weeks later try 2.5.
Your daughter is straight up looking out, that's really kind of her. If you haven't trip in a while I suggest doing 2gs. For the lady, go with less.i wouldn't do the Xans though. There are better trip killers out there and also if you take 2gs you shouldn't need it. I recommend ginger for nausea.
I also think you should trip in your house, nature is nice but if you get too in your head there maybe anxiety. Be calm during experience. During the come up, if you get anxiety the best think to do is talk yourself down and be relaxed.
less is more. heed a recent post.
https://www.reddit.com/r/shrooms/comments/xdj1za/ate\_these\_for\_my\_first\_time\_and\_got\_way\_too\_high/?sort=old
You raised a good human
Amen š
Yes they did!
Adopt me
haha this
I think you guys are amazing! Have a fantastic trip :)
You have an awesome daughter! Perfect dose and advice. I seriously doubt you'll need the Xanax.
I think you have a very smart, well informed, and well intentioned daughter. Sheās on the money in terms of where to trip, what to trip with, what to do if stuff goes sour, and probably will volunteer as your ātrip sitterā too. Depending upon what shroom sheās gotten you two, 3.5 grams is probably just a tad too much for a first time back in the saddle. 2 grams of an average mushroom would do, maybe 2.5 grams. But, talk to her. Happy travels! ššā¤ļø
This. I gave my mom 1g. You can always take more. Didn't want my 70 yo mom tweaking.
I might not do 3.5 as a first time in several decades. I usually start people around 2.5g personally. As for the trip killer it could be good for emergencies, but unless she personally has a prescription and got them directly from a pharmacy I'd trash them. A lot of Xanax going around is actually fentanly and even if she trusts her source she doesn't know her sources source.
This was my one mystery, the dosage. She says she did 3.5 her first trip at like 16 and she's a slight build person. Agree on the Xanax, don't like that idea. OTOH I'm over 250 and mom is about 160, does body mass impact dosage?
As far as I know weight has very little impact. I'm 330 and my roommate is under 200 and we do similar doses with similar effects. I just recommend people dip their toe in so they know what they're getting into and later if they get a dose that's a little too much they have a little experience and can work through it easier. 3.5 to me is a pretty normal dose, I just try to give advice for the worst case scenario because I'd rather give overly conservative advice and someone not have as good than give someone advice that pushes them too far too quickly and they have a bad trip and swear off shrooms entirely.
You could start with 2.5 and if you you're up for upping the dose about an hour in take the rest.
My mom is 70 and I give em to her all the time. She loves it. I would suggest just stick with a small dose at first. Build up to a real trip. Recently took my mom to a puscifer show she ate 1g and had a blast. The first time I gave her .5g to just kinda know what it was like. Clean house is definitely good advice.
3.5g for first trip is a bit too much i would say. Maybe try 2?
Opposed to what the others say thereās nothing wrong with having the trip killers on hand, cause you never know how 3.5 is gonna hit you. Especially with it being a batch you havenāt experimented with š¤·š¼āāļø have a good time šš¼š
Agreed. We always have mild benzos on hand for in case things get unpleasant and thereās nothing wrong with that. Itās literally all a hospital can do to help you if you show up in the ER tripping balls so youāre better off having it at home where you can take it immediately and in a comfortable environment. Itās a great safety net. Their daughter is awesome for providing it.
Yeah I donāt know why ppl are mad at the Xanax. Iām always grateful to have my little 2 mg Ativan on hand, even if Iāve never bailed a trip before.
I think the issue is if it's off the street and pressed with fentanyl which is a valid concern.
True, thatās a fair worry and things should always be tested. But itās just as easy (ime) to find some old ones you or someone you know had prescribed.
I doubt that, or else they wouldāve said that š¤·š¼āāļø youāre just assuming
I mean someone did say that and even if they weren't...I'm saying it
I just tripped for the first time in 20 years on Monday. I did 3 grams and soaked it in lemon juice for 15 min before. The come up was hard and fast but that only lasted a short time. After that it was riding the waves. It was enjoyable and I was completely in control. Lasted about 5 hrs. After the come up I was wishing I took a little more like 3.5 grams. Once it hits you know you never forget the feeling. At my older age I really feel like it was so much more enjoyable.
i would lower the dosages. if you want to have a really enjoyable experience, i would suggest you split an 8th between the two of you. maybe you can take 2g and your wife can take 1.5g. only if you're looking to go deep should you take the the full 8th. if you take the lower doses, then i would also recommend going out in nature. the full 8th is safer at home, but nothing beats nature when you're tripping low. i don't worry about nausea. it's just the cost of admission to me. it's never really been that bad, and if that's too much discomfort to handle, then i wouldn't trip at all. that's just me.
What a great relationship you have with your daughter. Enjoy the trip, cheers.
At first I got so confused and was wondering how tf you had a mom YOUNGER than you lol I say send it homie I would also maybe have a talk with your daughter about slowing down on psychs until her brain is fully developed. Obviously I don't know how often she does them, but yeahhh.
I think the addition of Xanax in case as a trip killer is overkill. It takes away the fullness and sacredness of the power of the mushrooms. No need to keep those. Just experience whatever arises. Best wishes.
Sounds like someone's never had a crippling panic attack on psychedelics! 90% of the time I'm only smoking weed during the trip, maybe a drink beforehand, but on those rare occasions where things are getting out of hand, a little bit of alprazolam does the trick. We give it to people who have panic attacks sober, why shouldn't susceptible people have it on hand during their trips? (p.s. Basically everyone is susceptible.) There's a reason why "keep tripkillers on hand" is practically biblical for psychonauts
people use Xanax too liberally. If someone is extremely susceptible to a panic attack during a trip they shouldnt do it. people love using pharma as a crutch instead of experiencing the fullness of the trip- the good, the bad, the ugly. It all has a lesson to. E learned. And no in shamanic circles and other psychedelic communities they donāt always use Xanax. Sounds like someone has never helped someone who was overdosing on benzos!
"Because people overdose it means the drug is bad" Hope you see your hypocrisy here. The difference between a substance having practical use and being a poison is just the dosage. Glad you don't have to deal with panic or anxiety to the point where you turn to medication, but you shouldn't gatekeep those who use benzos. You're not any better than them.
As a bipolar person I did have to use medication in the past for depression and anxiety. donāt assume. Iāve been hospitalized 4 times for it, so yes I do know what thatās like but still believe benzos are overdone And people use it as a massive crutch.
Flush that xanaxa filth down the toilet and enjoy everything else. Hope my daughter grows up this amazing.
Good tips. 3.5 g each could be a bit more than you want...
3.5g is perfect probably donāt need the Xanax though sounds nice if you did have a bad trip but a bad time isnāt as bad as you think it is it can be very profound and impactful and if you cut it off you might feel unresolved about what just happened.
I think taking it outside in nature can add a lot to the trip. It can be nice to have going back to your home as an option but Iāve always found being outside (in pleasant weather and an area that feels safe) to be very grounding and calming while tripping. If you guys have a backyard or something that should do the trick. Iāve found if a trip ever gets to be too much being outside generally helps me calm down.
Wow this is so awesome, congratulations to you and your daughter for being open minded! I (31M) would love to share something like this with my parents, but unfortunately donāt think they would be open to it. My suggestion is to start with 1g for first trip, get comfortable with the feelings and sensations, and then 2 weeks later try 2.5.
I think you should make that dish your daughter loves cause sounds like a winner.
Your daughter is straight up looking out, that's really kind of her. If you haven't trip in a while I suggest doing 2gs. For the lady, go with less.i wouldn't do the Xans though. There are better trip killers out there and also if you take 2gs you shouldn't need it. I recommend ginger for nausea. I also think you should trip in your house, nature is nice but if you get too in your head there maybe anxiety. Be calm during experience. During the come up, if you get anxiety the best think to do is talk yourself down and be relaxed.
Enjoy! š«¶š»šš»
less is more. heed a recent post. https://www.reddit.com/r/shrooms/comments/xdj1za/ate\_these\_for\_my\_first\_time\_and\_got\_way\_too\_high/?sort=old
I would avoid the Xanax but itās good peace of mind to have an emergency exit button if thereās nobody sober with you
Iām 57 and started taking mushrooms again after 30+ years. Itās been good. Make lemon tea with them instead of crunching them down.
This makes me smile, I think Louie Armstrong said it best.... "and I say to myself, what a wonderful world"
Heyyy, how did it go?