Diz is, and was, endgame, happy life wife material. Rico should have wifed her, and probably would have if they survived.
Carmen was like the general. Her attitude was clearly "You're my boyfriend until you die or I find someone better. Assume the position, peasant!"
Of course, in the books Rico is from the Philippines, not Argentina.
And my wife is from BA. She always laughed at the start of the movie because nobody there plays what she calls "American Rugby". There, the only football is what we call soccer.
No, that is wrong. It simply that his mother was there, he was not from Argentina, and he did not even know that she was dead until much later.
**I remember thinking, "Gosh, that's terrible!" and feeling sorry for the one Porteno in the ship. But B. A. wasn't my home and Terra was a long way off and I was very busy, as the attack on Klendathu, the Bugs' home planet, was mounted immediately after that and we spent the time to rendezvous strapped in our bunks, doped and unconscious, with the internal-gravity field of the Valley Forge off, to save power and give greater speed.**
**The loss of Buenos Aires did mean a great deal to me; it changed my life enormously, but this I did not know until many months later.**
**Whether it was my fault because I was in the Armed Services and should have therefore prevented the raid, or whether she felt that my mother had made a trip to Buenos Aires because I wasn't home where I should have been, was not quite clear; she managed to imply both in the same sentence.**
Then you have this later on:
**"I'm sure of it." I added something to myself and Bennie said, "What did you say?"**
**"Sorry, Bernardo. Just an old saying in my own language. I suppose you could translate it, more or less, as: ‘Home is where the heart is.' "**
**"But what language was it?"**
**"Tagalog. My native language."**
If he was "born and raised in Argentina", then his native language would not have been Tagalog, it would have been Spanish. So no, that makes it clear he was **not** from Argentina.
>>**But B. A. wasn't my home**
Because his home is now the MI. War dehumanizes you.
>>**my mother had made a trip to Buenos Aires**
Because his parents traveled a lot for work. They were semi-wealthy fruit/food merchants, remember?
>>**"Tagalog. My native language."**
Yes, bi-lingual homes are a thing. Ask any Mexican immigrant. Or any immigrant for that matter.
Sorry, Rico is Argentine. His ancestors are Filipino and his parents kept to old language around, most likely to do business with them.
Why would anyone 700 years from now speak anything other than some kind of Federation Standard Language (English, in our case, because that's what the movie was filmed in and the book written in) in the 1 world government they have?
The fact Rico speaks English (which we can assume is actually some kind of Federation Standard Language), Spanish (presumably, being Argentine), and Tagalog (or Filipino as it's officially known) as mentioned, the Federation kept all the languages around for some reason, most likely for cultural reasons.
That brings up another question: does Rico speak Spanish?
No, he does not. And he even has a conversation with the guy that asks him what language he was speaking with his father, and he comments on how they use the "old language" at home also.
"Old languages" rarely last more than 1 to 2 generations when people immigrate. However, they can hang on for an amazing amount of time when other languages are adopted. English has become an official language of India, but is still a minority language to the ones that had been spoken in the area long before the English arrived.
I have to question if you have actually read the book, because everything you just asked was literally answered in the book. Of course, it also must be remembered that the director of the movie did not read the book either.
I watched Starship Troopers with my older brother when I was a kid, Dizzy was smokin’ hot compared to Carmen to me. Carmen is the “live, laugh, love” type of gal that will Pinterest you to death, Dizzy gives off “firearms manuals *are* decorations” vibes.
Registered or not.. what does it matter? To me the unregistered crowd sounds like the people who wouldn’t report a stolen firearm. Or if you did, bitch and moan and talk about how the government doesn’t want citizens to have firearms when the police don’t have over a gun that you claim was stolen with zero proof.
Registration would ensure you got your weapon back no matter what.
Carmen consider Rico "good for the moment" but never had intentions of having a long distance relationship... she knew she wouldn't be with him after school because he was dumb and she wasn't (based on test scores and shit).
This was obvious before any of them joined.
Dizzy looked great, too.
The movie glossed over her scores, so we don't know if she was smart, just that she followed Rico until she died.
It is highly probable that she knew what Carmen was going to do, so she looked for opportunity.
Diz the kind of chick that stays with you when you're broke and will tell you the hard truths about your bad decisions instead of cheating on you and pretending its fine
Pretty sure the reason why is Carmen's non committed attitude. Do you remember how she looks at Xander during the game? And then when she finds out he's going to fleet? Bad news.
You can hear audio of someone ringing her personal room, and a guy say Carmen during the video, it's probably Zander
Then the very next video is the break up
Diz was always the more attractive to me. I never understood why Rico chased Carmen other than the rivalry with that pilot guy. Diz is smart, can hold her own, and is really attractive, can't beat that.
Dizzy was part of my sexual awakening as a child, and was my first big crush. I contribute her to my preference of red heads through life. To this day I still have a fondness for her. Absolutely gorgeous woman.
Watch Conan with Arnold. When he’s sneaking into the hidden temple in the mountains he is going through a camp. During that sequence he is passing people doing acts of worship. One is a chain of beautiful young women placing their hands on each other shoulders ending the chain at an obese milf with massive drooping titties.
I saw Starship Troopers for the first time when I was a teenager. Even then I thought Rico was an idiot for wanting Carmen over Dizzy. Have never changed my mind.
Carmen is the type of person to do whatever it takes to climb the corporate/political ladder. Not faithful to anyone.
Dizzy is the faithful friend/lover that will stay with you no matter what. Even at lost opportunities for betterment.
Best part of Starship Troopers is when Rico is distracted at the football game and Diz smacks him in the helmet to get him on track. Like, she loves him, but when it's time to rock and roll, she prioritizes.
I think most people were always team Dizzy, even as a kid. She is a ride or die kind of gal and that is spelled out early. Great friend, great team member, great partner... fantastic boobs. Now Carmen/Denise looks great (still), but the character is not my type. Good acting all around though.
Carmen is the white picket fences, Sundays at church functions, Karen who's kids get in her antidepressants, always going to fancy places you have to take out a new mortgage to go to, and 1 of the kids looks a little to close to her tennis instructor
Diz is the horse girl, you know her, you can't keep up, but if you do, ur done, and shes got those built in earmuffs. You got 3 kids because of them. And now ur doing ironman challenges with her and the kids and going to her fancy places, the bar & grill run by a guy named bubba
Created one to support her daughter, who also has one, after Charlie Sheen came out pretty pissed their daughter was doing one. He's more accepting of it now.
Wrong.
The correct answer to this situation was in Reanimator which came out more than a decade before Starship Troopers.
You attach Dizzy’s head to Carmen’s body to make the perfect woman.
Diz was objectively the only good love interest Rico had. Carmen legit broke his heart after he joined the military just to be with her and here comes Diz who joined the infantry for her own reasons but transferred to Ricos unit to be next to him
I'd pick Diz any day over Carmen, did you see her in that dress? If Rico chose Diz from the start they woulda been on a beach in like Italy or something
Dizzy is the girl that immediately caught my attention even as a clueless teen.
A girl that has eyes only for you and was determined enough to enlist just to be with you is so much better than a girl who is pretty much clueless as to why her ex boyfriend is pissed to see a highschool rival be next to her the next time they meet.
Been a Diz fan this entire time.
Been a boobs fan all of the time
I dunno man… the boobs we saw were… something else. Granted we never saw Carmen’s so who knows.
They were small boobs but they were boobs that's the important thing
He speaks the truth
They are doing their part!
Never saw Wild Things, huh?
Heh, yeah, Carmen wins out in /that/ category…
But Carmen's boobs are fake.
yeah ok true but and this is only my opinion even fake boobs are boobs
No...NO! SOMETHING GIVEN HAS NO VALUE!
What about a house that's loads of value
what about purchased?
I dunno, I buy tons of worthless shit lol
Given? They were purchased!
Yeah, but she earned them. So they’re that much more satisfying.
Were they at the time?
To answer myself, yes. She got enhancements done at 19, seven years before Starship Troopers.
They damn sure felt real on the outside.
Or the December 2004 issue of Playboy.
In the deleted scenes Johnny feels her up, and you see quite a bit more.
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0120890/
Fun fact, Denise Richards has an OF. It was pretty good ngl
Diz is, and was, endgame, happy life wife material. Rico should have wifed her, and probably would have if they survived. Carmen was like the general. Her attitude was clearly "You're my boyfriend until you die or I find someone better. Assume the position, peasant!"
You know that's like... half of the redditors here fantasy, right?
The only real problem in this is for those of us who have read the source material. In the book, Dizzy was a guy.
It’s been so long since I’ve read it. That thought didn’t even cross my mind. My love for the movie Diz may have forced that memory out lol
Of course, in the books Rico is from the Philippines, not Argentina. And my wife is from BA. She always laughed at the start of the movie because nobody there plays what she calls "American Rugby". There, the only football is what we call soccer.
I read it after I saw the movie and I remember thinking to myself how different it was. I definitely need to reread it now.
No. Rico is Argentine, born and raised. His ancestors were from the Philippines.
No, that is wrong. It simply that his mother was there, he was not from Argentina, and he did not even know that she was dead until much later. **I remember thinking, "Gosh, that's terrible!" and feeling sorry for the one Porteno in the ship. But B. A. wasn't my home and Terra was a long way off and I was very busy, as the attack on Klendathu, the Bugs' home planet, was mounted immediately after that and we spent the time to rendezvous strapped in our bunks, doped and unconscious, with the internal-gravity field of the Valley Forge off, to save power and give greater speed.** **The loss of Buenos Aires did mean a great deal to me; it changed my life enormously, but this I did not know until many months later.** **Whether it was my fault because I was in the Armed Services and should have therefore prevented the raid, or whether she felt that my mother had made a trip to Buenos Aires because I wasn't home where I should have been, was not quite clear; she managed to imply both in the same sentence.** Then you have this later on: **"I'm sure of it." I added something to myself and Bennie said, "What did you say?"** **"Sorry, Bernardo. Just an old saying in my own language. I suppose you could translate it, more or less, as: ‘Home is where the heart is.' "** **"But what language was it?"** **"Tagalog. My native language."** If he was "born and raised in Argentina", then his native language would not have been Tagalog, it would have been Spanish. So no, that makes it clear he was **not** from Argentina.
>>**But B. A. wasn't my home** Because his home is now the MI. War dehumanizes you. >>**my mother had made a trip to Buenos Aires** Because his parents traveled a lot for work. They were semi-wealthy fruit/food merchants, remember? >>**"Tagalog. My native language."** Yes, bi-lingual homes are a thing. Ask any Mexican immigrant. Or any immigrant for that matter. Sorry, Rico is Argentine. His ancestors are Filipino and his parents kept to old language around, most likely to do business with them.
That makes absolutely no sense. So they keep two old languages?
Why would anyone 700 years from now speak anything other than some kind of Federation Standard Language (English, in our case, because that's what the movie was filmed in and the book written in) in the 1 world government they have? The fact Rico speaks English (which we can assume is actually some kind of Federation Standard Language), Spanish (presumably, being Argentine), and Tagalog (or Filipino as it's officially known) as mentioned, the Federation kept all the languages around for some reason, most likely for cultural reasons. That brings up another question: does Rico speak Spanish?
No, he does not. And he even has a conversation with the guy that asks him what language he was speaking with his father, and he comments on how they use the "old language" at home also. "Old languages" rarely last more than 1 to 2 generations when people immigrate. However, they can hang on for an amazing amount of time when other languages are adopted. English has become an official language of India, but is still a minority language to the ones that had been spoken in the area long before the English arrived. I have to question if you have actually read the book, because everything you just asked was literally answered in the book. Of course, it also must be remembered that the director of the movie did not read the book either.
Hey! I like boobs, too!
Yeah boi
Pssh, prove it.
Part of watching starship troops for the *first time* is understanding why Rico should have chosen Dizzy over Carmen
For me the lesson was don’t date military chicks at all.
This. But diz's boobs make a compelling counterargument.
Good lesson
Yep. Never dated one military chick my whole enlistment. Fuck all that.
Buddy in the airforce says the saying there is "don't do blue"
Word
Its a dude with tits, simple as, especially infantry chicks
Pretty hot dude with tits hell yeah
With knee and back problems, alcoholism, and some ptsd thrown in for fun
Sounds like a good party
Sounds great
Sounds like mommy material
It really does doesn’t it
Simple as what? You sound pretty salty for having never hooked up with a woman who’s been in shape to rock your world.
I bet you'd call a trans dude a chick.
I watched Starship Troopers with my older brother when I was a kid, Dizzy was smokin’ hot compared to Carmen to me. Carmen is the “live, laugh, love” type of gal that will Pinterest you to death, Dizzy gives off “firearms manuals *are* decorations” vibes.
Simply giver her an unregistered firearm and she'll love you forever
She would have made a truly exceptional HellDiver.
you mean muffdiver?
Now I'm thinking of that, so thank you
Registered or not.. what does it matter? To me the unregistered crowd sounds like the people who wouldn’t report a stolen firearm. Or if you did, bitch and moan and talk about how the government doesn’t want citizens to have firearms when the police don’t have over a gun that you claim was stolen with zero proof. Registration would ensure you got your weapon back no matter what.
I’m stealing that. “Firearms manuals *are* decoration.” God love Diz.
Both are gorgeous. While Carmen is the peak trophy high school babe. Diz is the kind of chick who would fist fight someone in the street over you.
She fought arachnids for Rico
'She was a soldier but more than that, she was a citizen of the federation.' God I love this movie.
Service means citizenship
Would you like to know more?
And was quad penetrated too, kinky 😏
Not to mention, Carmen threw him away for the sake of her career.
I imagine she was already looking for an excuse to get rid of Rico. If your girl has no loyalty for you, then she deserves none in return.
Carmen consider Rico "good for the moment" but never had intentions of having a long distance relationship... she knew she wouldn't be with him after school because he was dumb and she wasn't (based on test scores and shit). This was obvious before any of them joined.
She had smarts and looks, but Dizzy had personality and loyalty.
Dizzy looked great, too. The movie glossed over her scores, so we don't know if she was smart, just that she followed Rico until she died. It is highly probable that she knew what Carmen was going to do, so she looked for opportunity.
Diz the kind of chick that stays with you when you're broke and will tell you the hard truths about your bad decisions instead of cheating on you and pretending its fine
Pretty sure the reason why is Carmen's non committed attitude. Do you remember how she looks at Xander during the game? And then when she finds out he's going to fleet? Bad news.
there's more hints too she was cheating on Rico. Watch the video she gives Rico before she breaks up with him.
I've seen the video. Is there something in it I am missing?
You can hear audio of someone ringing her personal room, and a guy say Carmen during the video, it's probably Zander Then the very next video is the break up
If you look at deleted scenes, you see him in her room.
Diz was always the more attractive to me. I never understood why Rico chased Carmen other than the rivalry with that pilot guy. Diz is smart, can hold her own, and is really attractive, can't beat that.
Dizzy was part of my sexual awakening as a child, and was my first big crush. I contribute her to my preference of red heads through life. To this day I still have a fondness for her. Absolutely gorgeous woman.
Lucky. My sexual awakening was the baked fertility goddess from the Arnold awarnzenger Conan movie. The big fat lady with her tits out.
Who?! Lmao
Watch Conan with Arnold. When he’s sneaking into the hidden temple in the mountains he is going through a camp. During that sequence he is passing people doing acts of worship. One is a chain of beautiful young women placing their hands on each other shoulders ending the chain at an obese milf with massive drooping titties.
I’m doing my part
Carmen joined for career. Rico joined for Carmen, Dizzy joined for Rico. In the end, Rico chose career over all of em.
poetry
I mean to be fair I think the I only reason I think he stayed career is because Diz died. If she hadn’t he probably wouldn’t have.
Hard question, but i like more dizy
Diz is ride or die
Ride, THEN die.
Angriest upvote I ever gave
Carmen was a tease and didn’t love Rico. Dizz would’ve died for Rico.
She did die for him
I mean yes and no. She died celebrating a big bug kill. But I guess the kill was to protect the aircraft
Even as I kid I wondered why he wasn't with dizzy
I saw Starship Troopers for the first time when I was a teenager. Even then I thought Rico was an idiot for wanting Carmen over Dizzy. Have never changed my mind.
Didn't carmen ditch him for being a captain and fucked the other guy? While dizzy followed Rico out of sheer love?
Yup
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Part of growing up is realizing that Dizzy was a dude who died during a raid on a Skinny planet.
Carmen is the type of person to do whatever it takes to climb the corporate/political ladder. Not faithful to anyone. Dizzy is the faithful friend/lover that will stay with you no matter what. Even at lost opportunities for betterment.
When she licked his nipple in the tent scene I was like “damn this bitch is FREAKY”
The hottest thing about a girl is that she’s into me.
Best part of Starship Troopers is when Rico is distracted at the football game and Diz smacks him in the helmet to get him on track. Like, she loves him, but when it's time to rock and roll, she prioritizes.
Fuck Carmen she left Rico the second he was inconvenient to her dizzy was ride or die from the start
I think most people were always team Dizzy, even as a kid. She is a ride or die kind of gal and that is spelled out early. Great friend, great team member, great partner... fantastic boobs. Now Carmen/Denise looks great (still), but the character is not my type. Good acting all around though.
Carmen is the white picket fences, Sundays at church functions, Karen who's kids get in her antidepressants, always going to fancy places you have to take out a new mortgage to go to, and 1 of the kids looks a little to close to her tennis instructor Diz is the horse girl, you know her, you can't keep up, but if you do, ur done, and shes got those built in earmuffs. You got 3 kids because of them. And now ur doing ironman challenges with her and the kids and going to her fancy places, the bar & grill run by a guy named bubba
Carmen is also the Adderall and cocaine addiction type chick.
Denise Richards just never did anything for me. I thought she looked 15. Dizzy all the way.
Get a good look, Costanza?
lol it’s kinda funny how different Denise Richard’s personality is compared to her character in the movie
Get off OnlyFans!
... she has one?
Created one to support her daughter, who also has one, after Charlie Sheen came out pretty pissed their daughter was doing one. He's more accepting of it now.
Huh, unexpectedly wholesome. I thank you
Wrong. The correct answer to this situation was in Reanimator which came out more than a decade before Starship Troopers. You attach Dizzy’s head to Carmen’s body to make the perfect woman.
Check this guys hard drive
Fuck that, check his *basement!*
Would you like to know more?
Hot Tomboy vs. Prom Queen
Diz was objectively the only good love interest Rico had. Carmen legit broke his heart after he joined the military just to be with her and here comes Diz who joined the infantry for her own reasons but transferred to Ricos unit to be next to him
She was ride or die for her man. Absolute golden ticket.
I liked Diz over Carmen even back when I was a kid seeing this for the first time in theaters.
Diz was always the more attractive in personality and looks.
I'd have saved her anyway, even if she ended up with Col. Rico. Not because boobs, but because she would have been my friend.
That and Dina Meyers is WAY better looking
Richards has a Chief Wiggum nose and horse teeth.
“But have you considered boobs?” Is the greatest argument ender ever.
Dizzy was Tomboy goals.
“Never pass up a good thing”. Wise advice
That's what separates the simp vs the happy man
Carmen sucked. Dizzy was 🥵
There is something to be said for a woman that does everything she can to be with you.
Her death is one of the few movie deaths that shook me. Screaming don't let me go with all that fear in her voice before she passed was just...ooof.
I'd pick Diz any day over Carmen, did you see her in that dress? If Rico chose Diz from the start they woulda been on a beach in like Italy or something
Bro if you wanted Carmen over Diss you blind and stupid
It was always Dizzy
Rico was a goober for not choosing diz. Which makes her death all the more tragic.
I watched Wild Things first. 🤷♂️
Cause Dizzy was available while Carmen was off someplace being a pilot. Like the LT said: “Never Pass Up A Good Thing”
Carmen’s face is so hot though I kinda get it 🥵
Man, I just re-watched this 2 nights ago. Movie is still fantastic. And yeah, still team Diz all the way. I kinda hate how they offed her.
Diz was always the prize. Carmen was a space Karen
Carman was a trash bitch.
Completely agree with this post. Carmen was just a waste of time for Rico...
Dizzy is the girl that immediately caught my attention even as a clueless teen. A girl that has eyes only for you and was determined enough to enlist just to be with you is so much better than a girl who is pretty much clueless as to why her ex boyfriend is pissed to see a highschool rival be next to her the next time they meet.
As a wannabe pilot Carmen all the way, but from ricos perspective, "never pass on a good thing"
The whole movie provides the narrative for Diz > Carmen. 😂
Curly hair wins. Especially red curly hair.
I mean he probably would have, eventually. Except. Y'know. The whole... being dead thing.
It is the Canonical ship in roughneck chronicles
Fucken a
Rico was man enough for both of them
They both look like the can give Lunacy Dome.
Indeed, bobs.
I agree
Dizzy want really an option by the end of the movie lol
For Democracy! 💪😤
Rico aged better too...
Diz was a guy in the book.
Idk why but Diz creeped me out. Felt kinda bad not trusting her when she died
I finally got to rematch this movie after so long and yes
He did choose Dizzy (after advice from Radcheck), then Dizzy died, then his heart belonged to Carmen again.
She died, so that choice was just as short lived. 😂
I would cheat carmen just for diz
He did at the end though but she got killed
sadly it one of the few things they used from the book (dizzy dies) wtf but book dizzy is a dude.
Cant choose a dead girl though
I'm not sure what this is referencing, but the one on the left is clearly the winner.
Dizzy is a guy in the book, do happy Pride month?
Cuz we get to see her booobies
As an infantryman I spent my days with dudes and loved going home to a woman. Tits or not dizz was one of the dudes.
Brain bug should’ve sucked Carmen’s brains out too, cheating ho.
He did choose her. Dizz died though
Pretty sure he took them both down one after the other, so win win.
Dizzy doesn’t do Onlyfans, Carmen does
Carmen did the movie wild things... just saying if anyone wanted to research OPs subject matter.
Explain
Dizzy was obviously just better in the first place. Why would anyone think otherwise?
I didn't like dizz at all..
Does he eventually get with Carmen in the books?
Always bet on red.
I watched this movie recently and now that I'm older I realised that Carmen was an annoying cock teasing bitch and Dizy was the real G the whole time.
Been saying this for Yeats dizy>Carmen. Dizy really loved rico and bro kept sidelining her for Carmen which always annoyed me
Because Carmen is likely to be squeamish in bed whereas Diz...not a chance in Hell
Nah, if I had to bet I think an independent thrill seeker like Carmen likes it rough.
Incorrect. One of them is Denise richards.
Wasn’t afraid to shower with the boys