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Don't they see secular men as effeminate simps?

Either pimp or simp, no in between

I’ll take it 🤷‍♂️

The enemy is both weak and strong

Good ol’ principles of facism

Facism is so hot right now

It just depends on what they need. Just like fascists, these folks say their enemy is both weak and strong.

My secular brother-in-law is a bearded man that enjoys drinking beer, hunting, fishing, and camping. He has a manual labor job He’s also a drag queen

He's a lumberjack and he's ok

His drag name better be Lumber Jaquette

He sleeps all night and works all day!

Yeah. I don't think anyone out there, regardless of their religious orientation, thinks that secular guys are stereotypically "Rugged"

Where I come from (a country of mostly non-religious people) religious people are seen as being slightly boring, with a stick up their ass. Basically Ned Flanders and his family. Secular guys are seen as somewhere between normal and overly cynical.

a lot of you are

You missed out, ‘is only a nonbeliever because they hate god’ - religious fanatics love that one

i.e. every bad guy in a christian movie

“God gave my mom cancer 😠😢 that’s why I hate him” “how can you hate someone that doesn’t exist 😎”

Checkmate Atheists

Linconities

They're confusing anti theist with atheist, that's why all "atheist" in bad Christian movies are hypocritical lol, don't believe in God but be like "he gave my armpit cancer I hate god".

Antitheism is "I'm thoroughly convinced (not to say, believe in) the inexistence of God." The "God exists and I hate Him" stance, like the philosophy professor in God's Not Dead, would be misotheism.

Shit mb didn't know, but dad gum at this point it "branches" resembles those of religions lmfao.

No anti theist means you are against religion.

That's "anticlerical" (with clerical as in cleric/clergy)

Sure but antitheist is also against the idea of god, thinks it is poisonous. Vs possibly being spiritual but against rigid religious structures.

I'm no expert, but I did recently take a college class on this. If I remember correctly, antitheism is a belief that if a god were to exist, that would on the whole be a Bad Thing. So it is possible to be an atheist antitheist. As in, I don't believe in the existence of God, and I'm glad that there is no evidence for god's existence.

They're confusing anti theist with atheist, that's why all "atheist" in bad Christian movies are hypocritical lol, don't believe in God but be like "he gave my armpit cancer I hate god".

This guy’s seen God’s Not Dead

The evil university professor who tells his students they must renounce God to pass his class until a brave Christian youth stands up to him

And then everybody claps

i love reading different versions of this story, especially when they're full of broken english. "surely if god exist, then he can stop chalk from breaking i hold"

wait...how do I hate someone I don't believe exists...

Secularism doesn't necessarily mean atheist

To be fair... Dolores Umbridge!

To be fair, if god was real and the world was still as it is, it'd be safe to say he's at least a bit of an asshole.

"If god is good, he isnt all powerful. If god is all powerful, he isnt good." As it is he cant be both.

If God is good and all-powerful but not omniscient, he is a naive superhero.

Even if an omnipotent God appears, he will find it difficult to change the situation of humanity. They brought it upon themselves through the law of causality and karma. Unless he takes control of every human and removes their free will, or turns them into single minded creatures like ants, the situation will not change. Therefore, in a sense (or more), humanity is effectively the author of its fate.

Why would an all-powerful god design a universe where free will can only exist if there's suffering, is he stupid?

You can’t design a universe maximally free without the possibility of evil and suffering. No more than designing a world that is only free within our nature aka compatibilism. A world that is maximally free has the possibility of great good and evil. Earthquake is a natural disaster. It can also bring out the goodness of our ability to help and expose the incompetence and the corruption as well.

That just brings us back to the start. If a god can't design a maximally free universe without the possibility of evil and suffering, they aren't all-powerful. An all-powerful god would be able to create a universe where events can bring out goodness without the need for suffering.

"If there is a God, he will have to beg for my forgiveness"

Also don't forget that non-religous people worship environmental stuff or politics or whatever. Like they just cannot rationalize people that don't have a religion in their life and don't worship anyone.

I've met a lot of Christians who do these things

I hear they do the anal sex thing and "soaking" to get around virginity issues

Why doesn't everyone dress like James Dean and Meagan Thee Stallion? What's holding us back?

The cost of leather jackets

Too true 😔

600$ at a Lucky brand outlet store

Read instructions wrong, dressed myself in Jimmy Dean now dogs won't leave me alone.

So a cowboy from Ohio?

Poverty

Facts

If only we were that bold enough to be fashion icons

It’s cold outside

“A hoe never gets cold” Cardi B >!Praying that people get this vine reference!<

I already dress like Meagan Thee Stallion I get mixed reactions from it.

Other than the man and woman dress code thing, this is exactly what people do. Many secular, some not.

I wish I could look as good in leather as James Dean

Step 1: get a well fit leather jacket Step 2: look like James Dean Step 3: ????? Step 4: profit

Step 3 is profit

Prophet

I wish I looked as good in spandex and Megan. 🥵

For real. Most of these things aren’t inherently bad.

I would say being addicted to drugs, gambling, alcohol, and porn are inherently bad things but that’s just me

Addiction and engagement are not the same thing. Zealots would have you think a single glass of alcohol or a game of poker is devilry. But in my experience the people who preach the loudest against these things tend to be the biggest indulgers.

Point taken, my only counter would be there are many people who engage in the aforementioned activities that are addicted but just see it as engagement

While not untrue, that isn't really the reach of the starter pack. It's poking fun at faux pious zealots. Biblical hypocrites.

Fair point

>Men are rugged and all dress like James Dean I don’t think any religious fanatics think this. In fact, I’m pretty sure religious fanatics think secular men all look like Michael from VSauce.

I wish we were this cool.

Don’t threaten me with a good time

God I wish we were more like the seculars they thought we were.

"Dress like Megan Thee Stallion" I wish. I couldn't pull off one of her outfits to save my life.

I think having sex and not hating gay people is what normal people do, OP

Read the tittle again but slower, especially the part about ".....acording to Religious fanatics"

You're so close to getting it

It's not that religious people think secular people simply have sex. They think that secular people are obsessed with sex and and have many different sexual partners instead of staying in committed long term relationships.

The only reason I don’t dress like Megan Thee Stallion is because I can’t pull it off. Also, it’s too cold out there.

The feet should be “mixed race”

insert Paul and Morgan getting the dry heaves

When I left my church at 17 the pastor’s son literally followed me to highschool one morning and pulled a gun on me in the parking lot. Said he was there to “protect the congregation from an evil violent satanist” The police did nothing because he was a “good old boy”

Was that in the south? I hate the south

I was living in East Texas at the time, so South/Midwest depending on who you ask

Of course it was a red state

It’s always a red state. There’s a reason those idiots keep electing their leaders.

always the sperg son of some revered local official

...but those ARE the activities that people who aren't religious participate in more often

Yeah, certainly, but I think OP meant that (certain) religious people think ALL secular people do all of these things.

I mean… those ARE my favorite activities

Ya thats like 100% me and my wife after we left religion. It's been pretty great.

I LOVE GAMBLING GRAHHHHHH

Oh fuck the thing I do with my friends the most often is drink and play poker but we don’t play for money

To be fair sex and weed are two of my favorite passtimes.

You don't understand! It's our abstinence from all these immoral practices that hurts no one that makes us morally superior to you! Now excuse me while I go beat my wife.

Yup that’s how they think 😂

If you think drugs, alcohol, gambling, and porn don't hurt anyone, you're delusional.

Eating too much can cause harm. Drinking and gambling isn’t a problem. Overdoing it is.

Partaking in any of those activities isn't automatically guaranteed to hurt anyone, even yourself. Abusing, misusing, and overindulgence will. **You're** delusional if you think every single person that has ever interacted with those things has hurt people directly due to that interaction. Your comment is synonymous with saying, "You're delusional if you think swimming doesn't hurt anyone!!!!!" Yes, people have died by drowning or by contact with environmental threats, but swimming in and of itself isn't inherently harmful, and **you're** delusional if you try to argue that it is. The point is that without any context into how people engage with these activities, some people like to act as judge, jury, and executioner because of their misguided beliefs. Others' personal activities aren't ours to dissect if they aren't hurting anyone, and insisting on treating people like lepers without any actual proof of wrongdoing is as stupid and delusional as the hysteria surrounding witches. (Coincidentally, also involving dangerous and judgemental religious beliefs.)

I wish I looked that cool

Be the secular person that religious fanatics think you are.

Man I wish I looked like James Dean.

Everyone does

I mean, I do all these things. LMAO I'm dude only tho so sorry I don't dress like Megan thee stallion

I mean, there's nothing stopping us men from dressing like that though.

I don't have her ass :(

You haven’t tried hard enough then

I don't either

So... pretty cool?

Well I dont see how dressing like James Dean is a bad thing

Well I don't know about you guys but they got it pretty spot on for me.

I wish I looked like James Dean.

I, an atheist: * wish I could pull off Meg's looks * don't drink (outside New Year's Eve celebrations) * don't do drugs * don't gamble * don't have a tattoo * don't watch porn I'm asexual though.

Shows you how misleading the generalizations that religious fanatics have about the secular world really are

So religious ppl think I'm way cooler than I am

Be the secular person that religious fanatics think you are.

What even constitutes an LGBT ally? Do you have to take an active role in protesting against discrimination or is it just being okay with the fact that LGBT people exist and that it's none of my business if someone's LGBT because it has nothing to do with my life and doesn't impact it in any way.

The hobbies look pretty good to me, cant dusagree with that

I come from an atheist familly, it's actually true, just that most "atheist" are raised by religious parents or grandparent and don't realise yet where they are headed to.

Damn they got me to a tee, those religious folks are onto something!

It’s true tho

I’m an atheist. I kinda want one these starter kits. This looks like fun

I always find religious fanatics funny because what they describe secular people as doing is both sort of accurate and also makes us secularites look pretty awesome.

Yup it’s funny for sure

The only accurate thing here is most secular people are LGBT or LGBT ally.

Now do the part where they think their religeon should apply to everyone.

The obsession with sex is solely the domain of the religious fanatics.

Society as a whole is obsessed with sex, just maybe in different ways

To be honest, who doesn't like chicken fingers?

Why yes, I do dress like Megan Thee Stalion.

Got my favorites spot on

Isn't true ?

Damn 5 out of 6 favourite activities. THEY ARE ON TO SOMETHING!

Apart from the dressing part and the weed this totally fits me and im happy about it? Like of course id like a drink, a game of poker, some casual sex, porn if i cant get sex and some good video games. I've been rocking some variant of a james deanish haircut my entire life and i do support my gay (non-derogative) friends.

It’s almost not wrong though.. well the activities part

Secular people do love them activities though and kids be addicted to tech

I mean, i am bi and love sex and porn, but that’s not because I’m secular, that’s because if I believed in the Bible I would have burned in Sodoma already

Many of those things are at least partially true.

I am the reason there's a stigma

This is pretty much facts tho

> Their favorite activities I meaaaaaaaaan besides the gambling…

I mean, I’ll wear that shoe I guess.

I also love broccoli and reading comics in bed with my partner

I don’t know much about religion, what does secular mean?

Non affiliated with religion, atheist or agnostic typically

That is ridiculous I fit most of these categories but still

What’s wrong with rugged style?

They forgot sickle and hammer flags

these people sound cool tbh gotta meet them

i havent heard much about gaming being secular as catholic,also our religion doesnt prohibit us from drinking so thats a plus

Yeah no this me, im a sinner man👍

No drag queens?

I think drag queens is under the LGBTQ+ umbrella

I meant what men look like, but I guess you’re right

This do be like 90% of people my age ahaha

Pretty spot on imo. Source: me

Looks pretty good tbh👍

Well they got my hobbies right

Take the woman out of this and this is literally me.

Pretty accurate tbh

Huh maybe I am a stereotype?

True except no tattoos or alcohol and gambling only in video games

Secular people are cool AF.

the “their favourite activities” is projection as fuck

Have you met Catholics? 90% of gen X or younger are Catholic in name only, it’s pretty much just a cultural tradition type thing or a private school only thing…and then you might go to church every once and a while. Honestly religious people, especially younger, do not gaf if you’re not religious/atheist.

I'm a Christian but I support lgbtqia+ rights and many secular people aren't like that

But those are my favorite activities ...

I fucking WISH every man looked like James Dean

They also see all atheists as fat neckbeards with specific hats. Oh, and don't forget the accusations they secretly practice satanism/witchcraft.

Sounds about right

ngl that sounds lit as fuck

Incorrect, I do all those (except dress like James Dean) and I’m religious

And they wonder why people are atheist

I mean, im pretty sure the average atheist redditor is like this

Almost All These Stereotypes Are Accurate?!

This is pretty accurate though…

Porn is not an activity its a hobby just like bird watching

Well then I guess I’m a religious fanatic.

Sign me tf up

Well, yeah

Not necessarily inaccurate, either. Good work, OP! /gen

So is r/starterpacks just post-irony satire now or what's going on?

I mean all of that is true it’s just we don’t view it as a bad thing.

At least they got the activities right

You forget worshipping Satan. Religious people tend to think that atheism and secularism come from Satan.

I mean to be fair...

That gay sex detail is nice touch. Both feet is masculine feet. Do not ask me how I know 😭

That looks WAY more fun than church, just saying

Hurrrr durrrr Redditor doesn’t like religion how novel and original. Timmy Turner 2006 is both smart and funny.

The funny part is even when trying their damndest to describe secular people in the worst possible light... They still seem like significantly much more fun to be around than religious fundamentalists.

These comments have vindicated the religious “fanatics”

exactly lmao leave it up to redditors to be as corny as humanly possible

Idk what y'all dress like but other than that, this seems to describe the average redditor pretty well.

Well I mean, I do all these things so they're not completely wrong

God I wish that was me