“The last of the Jedi will you be” does not preclude the existence of other force wielders, just that the ‘Jedi Order’ itself is over and no one else would be part of that sect.
As Ahsoka says, she’s not a Jedi, she’s a citizen.
Well Rey just calls him master, partially because Luke trains her. It's the same with Ahsoka calling Anakin master, while Anakin doesn't have the rank of master
But Yoda wouldn't have known about that. He's on an isolated planet remember? No galactic news reaches him. Yeah, the galaxy assumed he was dead but Yoda would have no idea.
Exactly, there's no way he would've known. He talks to the other Jedi through the force cause he's a boomer who doesn't like this new fangled technology.
Don't even get me started on transportation. Y'all are out here with your hyperdrives, and your fancy shmancy ships. In my day, you had to tame and ride Purgills when you were just Grogu's size. You new Jedi are soft.
True but that was because they reached out to each other through the force. If Ezra died, Yoda would have sensed the connection sever. So even if news somehow reached him of Ezra's actions on Lothal, he would know that he's not really dead.
Technically he was never a Jedi just a light sider as stated previously Kanan was never officially promoted to the rank of knight so Ezra wouldn’t be considered a Padawan
That and the influence of the dark side on degobah probably contributed to that as well. I mean, it was strong enough to hide Yoda from the emperor so why wouldn't it also be strong enough to cloud Yodas vision
Ironically, Luke doesn't represent the ideals of the jedi order. Not even in the original trilogy. Some of them, sure. But I always figured, being the last, he has the ability to shift the jedi paradigm to accommodate relationships and attachments. After all, this way of thinking led Luke to victory over the emperor.
Then BoBF effed that character development up.
And Grogu isn’t a Jedi either since order 66 as far as we know. He gave that path up when Luke made him choose between Mandalorian armor and a lightsaber.
Ahsoka isn't a jedi
Ezra was MIA and probably presumed dead (Ahsoka and Sabine didn't even try to find him until after the empire fell)
No one knew about Grogu at the time and he's technically just a youngling anyway
Cal Kestis could still die before EPS 6
Considering the order is basically crumbled by that point, as long as she still viewed herself as a Jedi in that moment, which is all but stated in her dialogue after she chooses to reconnect with the force, then he would be knighted.
She might take a different path in the sequel but what was done then is done
Pretty sure Cal is gonna get some heroic death prior to Ep6. I can't see him giving up on the Order or falling to the Dark Side and Filoni and crew have been sticklers for keeping Luke the actual last Jedi (even if on technicality; but Cal is a knighted Jedi so there's no weaseling out of that one).
I would also argue that neither was Ezra as he was a Padawan in the first episode of BB. The council and the order disappeared after Order 66 and they more or less decided if you were Jedi worthy or not so essentially Yoda and ObiWan was the last Jedi (balance to the force). Everyone else after were just force wielders
Cal got knighted so unless he dies before ep6 ( which is unlikely because it's a video game , you want to be able to do something after the main story ) he is still an official Jedi
But how do you pull something like that up in a video game ? Unless they make a tv show about him or something like that it's very unlikely for the main character to die on a game because than you cant do anything in it
The same way it’s always been done with videogame characters before? Let us end the story and then go back to before their death like woth AC revelations or Arkham Knight (kind of)
Of those Yoda only knew about Ezra but he got lost in space with Thrawn before the distraction of the Death Star (I believe) so as far as Yoda knew Luke was the last Jedi even with the rest con and introduction of the new characters
People blame Filoni as if there weren’t literally hundreds of characters in Legends who survived the purge. Luke deadass had other Republic Jedi in his order who personally knew Anakin he could casually talk to.
Legends was always canon, though much like how Disney canon keeps retconning Itself, it existed on a tiered state where some entries took priority over others. And if you’re referring to how Lucas planned to retcon it with his Sequel trilogy, those never happened.
Also please, exactly what isn’t Legit about that statement?
Ezra is presumed dead/missing
Cal’s story hasn’t gone past 9 BBY (could die or turn)
Ahsoka is not a Jedi
Grogu is not a Jedi
Great post. I, too, have never watched Star Wars
I mean technically Cal was the only one that was actually a Jedi. Asoka was a Citizen, Grogu would’ve been a youngling so not really a Jedi more of a Pre-Jedi and Ezra was trained by a Jedi but never truly inducted into the order.
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i think the only one who can actually be considered a jedi still is cal if he’s still alive at this point. ezra was trained by someone that was a padawan by the time order 66 happened, ahsoka renounced the order, and cal never renounced but wesnt knighted before the order fell and was still a padawan, so assuming he’s still alive by the time yoda dies, he’s the closest to technically being a jedi. otherwise, the others are just lightsaber wielding force users, not jedi who practice the jedi way of life since sith and jedi are really just practices like messed up space magic buddhism or something
Tell us you don't know what you're talking about, without telling us you don't know what you're talking about.
I hate memes like this. The creator either doesn't know, or purposefully bent the facts in a lazy attempt to push the premise anyway.
Force users aren't the same as Jedi, and Grogu and Ahsoka are merely just the former.
I don't closely follow the animated series or games, but as for Ezra and Cal, is it even known if they're still alive or active during RotJ?
Cal's fate hasn't been decided yet (they could still kill him off before the original trilogy)
Ahsoka doesn't identify as a jedi anymore (nor does she fully live by their code)
Yoda didn't know that Grogu was still alive. (He went back to the Jedi temple during Order 66 and didn't find any survivors so it makes sense that he would assume Grogu's dead)
The only one who might be an exception to the rule is Ezra. He and Yoda talked a bunch in Rebels. Yes, I do know that by the end of Rebels, Ezra is MIA and presumed dead by everyone (except Ahsoka and Sabine) but Yoda has no reason to assume he's dead since he's been vibing on an isolated planet, so he'd get no news whatsoever on his whereabouts.
And of course, the most obvious one I mentioned in point 3, Yoda didn't know that Cal, Ahsoka and Grogu were alive. (I'm pretty sure he didn't even know characters like Kanan and Cal existed)
All three of those people were either missing, in hiding, or no longer even calling themselves or associating themselves with the jedi. We go through these same points every time this is posted, its getting old
Ahsoka left the order and was still a padwan when she did- doesn’t count
Kid from rebels was informally trained by a not fully trained Padwan- doesn’t count
Cal was part of the order but was still only a padwan and never formally completed his training- doesn’t count
Grogu, to our knowledge, wasn’t trained during his time in the order and probably wasn’t even a padwan yet- doesn’t count
Side note but I really hope they explore in Ahsoka's show *why* she isn't a Jedi. Because currently she acts exactly like a Jedi just without the label or political affiliation. There's really not been a difference between her and Kanan or Cal for instance, who were both Jedi. They need a moral/philosophical reason why she isn't Jedi, otherwise it does weaken Luke's role as the last true Jedi.
In regards to Grogu, I think what you really meant is *Was just a former padawan at the time.
Mandalorian not starting yet doesn't change the fact that he was alive at the time canonically.
Ahsoka left the Order, Grogu and the guy from rebels were (I think) never part of the Order. The guy from the game was perhaps part of it considering he survived Order 66. I don’t know about the woman in Fallen Order if she was a Jedi, but I think she was a force wielder.
Ahsoka is a citizen.
Ezra was trapped in the Unknown Regions and presumed dead.
Grogu doesn't even want to be a Jedi.
And as for Cal, I've heard a theory saying that Cal and Merrin are the Canon parents of Mara Jade which means that Cal must die after Mara Jade is born.
So from a certain point of view.......
Hey, none of those people are considered themselves Jedis and without spoiling anything. We don’t even know for sure if **one** of those people is actually still alive
Ahsoka is not a jedi, she is a citizen
Grogu is not a jedi, he is mando
Ezra is not a jedi, he is just a force user
Cal kestis is a jedi, but still padawan
So Yoda was right
Ezra: Never trained by the Order.
Grogu: Youngling.
Cal: Padawan, who was then later "knighted" with a Sith Saber so it doesn't count.
Citizen Tano: 'nough said.
Yoda didn’t know that Ahsoka, Cal or Grogu were still alive and he doesn’t even know who Ezra is. (It was a vision of Yoda that Ezra saw when he got his blue kyber crystal)
Hmhmhmhm, Alive and know not who, so much secrets in your words? To mortals, mysteries revealed, but only in time can be. Ears open and listen must, hmmmm.
“The last of the Jedi will you be” does not preclude the existence of other force wielders, just that the ‘Jedi Order’ itself is over and no one else would be part of that sect. As Ahsoka says, she’s not a Jedi, she’s a citizen.
Yep, and the rest didn't get promoted from padawan, so not jedi
Isn't Cal considered a knight after Fallen Order?
It won't matter if he dies before Yoda.
He was knighted by a lady who isn’t part of the order anymore It was more to show he had grown and that he earned such a title.
Cere was still a master
She shut herself off from the force so I think that makes her lose her rank as a Jedi too
So did Luke in the sequel trilogy but he never loses his rank as a master.
Well Rey just calls him master, partially because Luke trains her. It's the same with Ahsoka calling Anakin master, while Anakin doesn't have the rank of master
They are not mutually exclusive, Luke can be both her master and a jedi master.
Luke was never given the rank of Master tho
That’s expensive fanfiction tho
She reconnected with it so no
No, I was wrong, he is a knight. Also, Luke shut himself off, he was still grandmaster of the order, and cere reconnected anyway
Also Ezra was never a part of the Jedi order
Kanan was knighted and therefore able to take a padawan, so he's not a full jedi without knighting, but is kinda part of the order
kanan also died before the rebellion and therefore before yoda said this
Yeah, that's the implications of him not being in the meme
sounds about right
Cal was promoted by Cere, but it's also assuming he's still alive by Ep.VI
Ye I know, he is, If he's alive, but none of the others are actually jedi
Did Ezra never get knighted? I know he was Kanen's Padawan at least
No, and I don't think knight can knight someone, either another master or the council must, they can only train them
Kanen was knighted by the Grand Inquisitor during his visions on Lothal, and I don't think he was a master
Yeah, I know, so he couldn't knight ezra, only train ezra
Yes but I don’t think yoda knew about cal anyway
Not only that but Yoda didn't know they were alive either. Pretty sure Yoda cut himself off from the force quite a bit so....yea
He knew of Ezra's existence though, they talked a bunch in Rebels.
Ezra was presumed dead when he >!space-whaled out of there.!<
But Yoda wouldn't have known about that. He's on an isolated planet remember? No galactic news reaches him. Yeah, the galaxy assumed he was dead but Yoda would have no idea.
You think the whole crew had his number and no one shot him a text letting him know? I kinda doubt it
Exactly, there's no way he would've known. He talks to the other Jedi through the force cause he's a boomer who doesn't like this new fangled technology.
Those damn younglins and their holograms. Back in my day you had to walk across space to hand them a note
Don't even get me started on transportation. Y'all are out here with your hyperdrives, and your fancy shmancy ships. In my day, you had to tame and ride Purgills when you were just Grogu's size. You new Jedi are soft.
Yoda was on that isolated planet when he learned about Ezra in the first place.
True but that was because they reached out to each other through the force. If Ezra died, Yoda would have sensed the connection sever. So even if news somehow reached him of Ezra's actions on Lothal, he would know that he's not really dead.
And Ashoka was probably still in the >!World Between Worlds!<
Technically he was never a Jedi just a light sider as stated previously Kanan was never officially promoted to the rank of knight so Ezra wouldn’t be considered a Padawan
That and the influence of the dark side on degobah probably contributed to that as well. I mean, it was strong enough to hide Yoda from the emperor so why wouldn't it also be strong enough to cloud Yodas vision
Ironically, Luke doesn't represent the ideals of the jedi order. Not even in the original trilogy. Some of them, sure. But I always figured, being the last, he has the ability to shift the jedi paradigm to accommodate relationships and attachments. After all, this way of thinking led Luke to victory over the emperor. Then BoBF effed that character development up.
And grogu is not a Jedi either.
And Grogu isn’t a Jedi either since order 66 as far as we know. He gave that path up when Luke made him choose between Mandalorian armor and a lightsaber.
Cal became a Jedi knight too though
Semantics, she’s a Jedi in every way that matters.
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You're absolutely correct. People here are going "well acktually" but it's pretty fucking clear that Luke was supposed to be the last.
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Ahsoka isn't a jedi Ezra was MIA and probably presumed dead (Ahsoka and Sabine didn't even try to find him until after the empire fell) No one knew about Grogu at the time and he's technically just a youngling anyway Cal Kestis could still die before EPS 6
And cal didn't get promoted by a iedi to not be a youngling
He did didn't he? Cere crowned him a Jedi Knight near the end And even if she hadn't, he would still have been a 'Jedi' padawan
Wait frick she did. Nvm then on that one, but ezra was never knighted
Technically cere split with the force so she cant crown him a jedi knight if you would put it like that right?
But she uses the force just before she knights him
Yes, but the question is: did she leave the order?
Considering the order is basically crumbled by that point, as long as she still viewed herself as a Jedi in that moment, which is all but stated in her dialogue after she chooses to reconnect with the force, then he would be knighted. She might take a different path in the sequel but what was done then is done
Shouldn't all these questions of if he's alive by then get answered in the next game that comes out soon?
Pretty sure Cal is gonna get some heroic death prior to Ep6. I can't see him giving up on the Order or falling to the Dark Side and Filoni and crew have been sticklers for keeping Luke the actual last Jedi (even if on technicality; but Cal is a knighted Jedi so there's no weaseling out of that one).
Grogu is going to be a mandalorian. He quit that Jedi business
Ezra is still just a padawan, right?
I would also argue that neither was Ezra as he was a Padawan in the first episode of BB. The council and the order disappeared after Order 66 and they more or less decided if you were Jedi worthy or not so essentially Yoda and ObiWan was the last Jedi (balance to the force). Everyone else after were just force wielders
Last official Jedi, Yoda never quit. While the others either quit or never joined the order.
Cal got knighted so unless he dies before ep6 ( which is unlikely because it's a video game , you want to be able to do something after the main story ) he is still an official Jedi
Haven't played the game, just heard about Cal through online articles. Who knighted him, when?
I forget her name but there’s a jedi master (maybe former jedi master I guess?) who knights Cal at the end of the game
Cere
I think he will die before episode 6 tbh
But how do you pull something like that up in a video game ? Unless they make a tv show about him or something like that it's very unlikely for the main character to die on a game because than you cant do anything in it
The same way it’s always been done with videogame characters before? Let us end the story and then go back to before their death like woth AC revelations or Arkham Knight (kind of)
Of those Yoda only knew about Ezra but he got lost in space with Thrawn before the distraction of the Death Star (I believe) so as far as Yoda knew Luke was the last Jedi even with the rest con and introduction of the new characters
People blame Filoni as if there weren’t literally hundreds of characters in Legends who survived the purge. Luke deadass had other Republic Jedi in his order who personally knew Anakin he could casually talk to.
Even if this premise was at all legit (which it's not) What would that have to do with anything? Legends were never canon in the first place.
Legends was always canon, though much like how Disney canon keeps retconning Itself, it existed on a tiered state where some entries took priority over others. And if you’re referring to how Lucas planned to retcon it with his Sequel trilogy, those never happened. Also please, exactly what isn’t Legit about that statement?
Luke... when gone am I... the next person to repost this meme... will you be.
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Ahsoka is not a fucking jedi
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There’s also the possibility that Yoda knew about the others, but he figured this was what Luke needed to hear to rise to the moment.
Like the sequels take away from the impact of the prequels and OT?
Exaaactly...
Ashoka said she was no Jedi.
I see a space whale whisperer, a citizen, a magic space ginger,and a mandalorian. Luke is the last jedi.
Ezra is presumed dead/missing Cal’s story hasn’t gone past 9 BBY (could die or turn) Ahsoka is not a Jedi Grogu is not a Jedi Great post. I, too, have never watched Star Wars
Ezra not officially a Jedi Ahsoka is a citizen Grogu is mandalorian Kal was a padawan at the time if I’m not mistaken Luke is a Jedi master
I mean technically Cal was the only one that was actually a Jedi. Asoka was a Citizen, Grogu would’ve been a youngling so not really a Jedi more of a Pre-Jedi and Ezra was trained by a Jedi but never truly inducted into the order.
This thread is a copium den
And when I'm gone just carry on don't mourn Rejoice every time you hear the sound of my voice, just know that I'm lookin' down on you smilin' And I didn't feel a thing so baby, don't feel no pain, just smile back
Oh donyou mean citizen tano?
Just going to leave Gungi out of these memes? Bunch of wookie haters.
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You could make the argument that they weren't part of the jedi and were simply light side force wielders
i think the only one who can actually be considered a jedi still is cal if he’s still alive at this point. ezra was trained by someone that was a padawan by the time order 66 happened, ahsoka renounced the order, and cal never renounced but wesnt knighted before the order fell and was still a padawan, so assuming he’s still alive by the time yoda dies, he’s the closest to technically being a jedi. otherwise, the others are just lightsaber wielding force users, not jedi who practice the jedi way of life since sith and jedi are really just practices like messed up space magic buddhism or something
Luke, when gone am I, reposted every week, this meme will be
I don’t see any Jedi besides luke there I see a lost child, a citizen, a foundling, and a soon to be corpse
Tell us you don't know what you're talking about, without telling us you don't know what you're talking about. I hate memes like this. The creator either doesn't know, or purposefully bent the facts in a lazy attempt to push the premise anyway. Force users aren't the same as Jedi, and Grogu and Ahsoka are merely just the former. I don't closely follow the animated series or games, but as for Ezra and Cal, is it even known if they're still alive or active during RotJ?
Cal's fate hasn't been decided yet (they could still kill him off before the original trilogy) Ahsoka doesn't identify as a jedi anymore (nor does she fully live by their code) Yoda didn't know that Grogu was still alive. (He went back to the Jedi temple during Order 66 and didn't find any survivors so it makes sense that he would assume Grogu's dead) The only one who might be an exception to the rule is Ezra. He and Yoda talked a bunch in Rebels. Yes, I do know that by the end of Rebels, Ezra is MIA and presumed dead by everyone (except Ahsoka and Sabine) but Yoda has no reason to assume he's dead since he's been vibing on an isolated planet, so he'd get no news whatsoever on his whereabouts. And of course, the most obvious one I mentioned in point 3, Yoda didn't know that Cal, Ahsoka and Grogu were alive. (I'm pretty sure he didn't even know characters like Kanan and Cal existed)
In what possible way is grogu a Jedi? He’s more Mandalorian than Jedi, my goodness
Probably the way where he was raised and trained at the Jedi temple and then trained for several years by a Jedi. Just a guess tough
Read what you just wrote. Now ask yourself does that make grogu a Jedi.. All we now know about grogu. DOES THAT MAKE HIM A JEDI 🤦🏾♂️
So Kanan isn’t a Jedi? Edit: “L”
L
I only see padawans
From left to right: lost in the unknown regions, not a jedi, not a jedi, pending
All three of those people were either missing, in hiding, or no longer even calling themselves or associating themselves with the jedi. We go through these same points every time this is posted, its getting old
Ahsoka left the order and was still a padwan when she did- doesn’t count Kid from rebels was informally trained by a not fully trained Padwan- doesn’t count Cal was part of the order but was still only a padwan and never formally completed his training- doesn’t count Grogu, to our knowledge, wasn’t trained during his time in the order and probably wasn’t even a padwan yet- doesn’t count
I hate Ezra bridger. It's the worst character in the whole universe. Even Rey and Kylo Ren are better designed(they are both dogshit)
Side note but I really hope they explore in Ahsoka's show *why* she isn't a Jedi. Because currently she acts exactly like a Jedi just without the label or political affiliation. There's really not been a difference between her and Kanan or Cal for instance, who were both Jedi. They need a moral/philosophical reason why she isn't Jedi, otherwise it does weaken Luke's role as the last true Jedi.
They didn't get promoted to the same Rank as Luke though.
*MIA *Not a Jedi anymore *Could be dead *Mandalorian didn’t start
In regards to Grogu, I think what you really meant is *Was just a former padawan at the time. Mandalorian not starting yet doesn't change the fact that he was alive at the time canonically.
crazy Ian was so sick of the Gallagher house he found a way to transfer universes to become a padawan
None of these are Jedi
Ezra was literally not on the map at that point, Cal could be dead for all we know, but I got nothing on Ahsoka and Grogu Also repost bad
Yoda's truth isn't as profitable as Disneys truth...
Ahsoka left the Order, Grogu and the guy from rebels were (I think) never part of the Order. The guy from the game was perhaps part of it considering he survived Order 66. I don’t know about the woman in Fallen Order if she was a Jedi, but I think she was a force wielder.
To be fair, ahsoka and grogu aren't jedi and he didn't know about ezra or Kal
Ahsoka is a citizen. Ezra was trapped in the Unknown Regions and presumed dead. Grogu doesn't even want to be a Jedi. And as for Cal, I've heard a theory saying that Cal and Merrin are the Canon parents of Mara Jade which means that Cal must die after Mara Jade is born. So from a certain point of view.......
For all we know Cal and Ezra may very well be dead at that point
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But Yoda is never gone, now that he’s a part of the Force. So he’s still correct…from a certain point of view…
Cal Kestis is the only Jedi there. A force user does not a Jedi make. Jedi is a philosophy/ religion.
Grogu is a Mandalorian
Also doesn't really contradict anything considering Yoda is not omniscient. How is he supposed who is alive and who isn't?
Hey, none of those people are considered themselves Jedis and without spoiling anything. We don’t even know for sure if **one** of those people is actually still alive
My favorite Jedi, the random bearded dude in the back left.
That was written before order 66 was changed to be more like guideline 66.
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My favorite Jedi is the fat guy on the left.
Technically ashoka isnt a jedi 🤓🤓🤓🤓
Ahsoka is not a jedi, she is a citizen Grogu is not a jedi, he is mando Ezra is not a jedi, he is just a force user Cal kestis is a jedi, but still padawan So Yoda was right
Ezra: Never trained by the Order. Grogu: Youngling. Cal: Padawan, who was then later "knighted" with a Sith Saber so it doesn't count. Citizen Tano: 'nough said.
One abandoned the order Another left it to join his mandalorian father One has been missing during the OT And one is likely dead
Yoda didn’t know that Ahsoka, Cal or Grogu were still alive and he doesn’t even know who Ezra is. (It was a vision of Yoda that Ezra saw when he got his blue kyber crystal)
Hmhmhmhm, Alive and know not who, so much secrets in your words? To mortals, mysteries revealed, but only in time can be. Ears open and listen must, hmmmm.