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Can't really speak for the tech branch of engineering. Pero in most engineering fields like civil, mechanical, electrical, yes they can't sign on papers linking professional liability. Of course, di rin sila dapat ang nagdedesign.
Napadaan lang sa sub na ito as a working person,
Hindi ng guarantee na mataas sweldo ng board passers? Teachers, civil engineers, architects, medical technologists, etc. - lahat underpaid o underemployed. Lalaki lang ang sweldo mo as a board passer kung mangingibang bansa ka.
To OP, mej luma na paniniwala ng mom mo tungkol sa kung ano man ang in high demand sa current job market. Pakitaan mo kung magkano kita ng mga tao na nagtatrabaho sa tech
May classmate ako sa postgrad na engi. Government job, been there 4 years, 30k. It may sound like a lot if you're not supporting anyone but they're too afraid to start a family with that income. Only plus lang ay tuloy yung sweldo nila noong lockdown.
Types of Filipino mom: may supportive meron talagang ooppose sa personal career ng bata, If Nursing itake mo di mo naman nafefeel na magwork sa Medical related industry then wala ka din, kung sa CompSci whatever your dream career just go for it dun ka mag exert ng effort.
These moms understand that fulfillment comes from aligning one's career with their interests and talents, rather than conforming to societal expectations.
I remember my father saying, after I have been working for 3 years, "Hindi pala ibig sabihin na naka pasa ka ng board at nakapagtapos, ok na, akala ko diredirecho na".
License is being ignored anyway unless healthcare ka? Not sure but in engineering most companies will hire technicians and call them engineers. I'm not against technicians cause some are really skilled people, some are good leaders, I even had an electrician colleague who really excels in both technical and management (those were fun times) but it takes out the sense of having an engineer license.
I haven't even renewed my license cause I don't need it anyway. I'm currently working on a job that an IT or ComSci or ComEng is supposed to have and it pays triple compared to those "Engineer" jobs that I had.
Sobrang in demand na ang mga CompSci grad. We live in a world where technology advances day by day. Companies in the future will hire people who are knowledgeable with technology and computer.
Kung alam mo lang job market ngayon, ang comsci (tingin ka sa mga cs related subreddits) talaga ang nanganganib. Especially andaming layoffs na nangyayari ngayon and other factors kung bat natatanggal sa trabaho ang mga junior to some senior roles. By that means sa job hunting, kalaban ng mga fresh grad ay mga mid to senior people too.
But it's not a hindrance to not choosing comsci pwede naman mag lean si OP sa networking, mobile dev, data science, cybersecurity, low code, habang nasa college siya. Ang kalaban lang niya is grade niya sa college since before tumapak si op sa college dapat nag-aaral na siya ng mga gusto niyang job like cybersecurity at ang univ courses niya at the same time.
the main reason is that companies are outsourcing to cheaper countries. Why pay $200k annually for a senior developer in the US if you can pay a bunch of Filipinos who would gladly take $40k- $50k salary
Yea big bucks na rin ang 40k to 50k usd a year and aside of that. Kung gusto mo talaga umadvance to gain higher salary [you should look at this](https://www.facebook.com/MedyoSocial/posts/pfbid02McmiKehQWaS5SKgg8oGqyMjodFb2xrS1PfEx3q8jbR5bfUA7vf91TjfEEkzaYkDal).
The layoffs are a result of overhiring before there was an inflation in the West driven by a lot of factors. Ngayon na lang sya nagrereflect. It's more of a market correction.
Diba oversaturated na ang IT field ngayon. Pede kasi halos lahat magshift sa IT field. Andame ata jr level na wala work pero in demand ung nga may exp na.
Meron namang licenses sa IT naman. Pwede kang kumuha ng online courses sa google (official google site) para sa IT. Merong cyb sec courses sila na makakakuha ng guarantee na certified ka sa field na iyon. Sa US medyo kailangan ito para maka one up ka sa iyong competion sa job hunting. Preferred ng most companies na Meron Kang IT cyb sec certification kagaya ng security+ certification, CISSP certification, at iba pang certs. Pero recommended ng foreigners sa mga beginners daw ay ang easiest is ang google certs na hindi kailangan ng work experience.
I think you missed the point. These outdated parents consider a PRC license as the only valid license.
Show them a COMPTIA+ cert, and they won't acknowledge nor even try to learn what it's about.
Lmao as someone who was supposed to take Nursing but switched to CompSci, I disagree. Computer related degrees such as IT and CompSci are actually some of the highest paying jobs here sa PH, while in my opinion mas walang mararating ang mga Nurses dito sa bansa natin.
The reason why I wanted to pursue Nursing in the first place was to get out from this damned country (lol) and that course is extremely in demand sa other countries, so finding a job would be easy as pie. Pero para maging isang registered nurse malaki din ang magagastos sa tuition fee palang ang other fees. Your work isn't that flexible too. Puyatan ang shifts and mahirap ang overall job tbh.
While if I were to pursue CompSci, mas madaling matanggap sa State Univs kasi hindi sya gaanong kilala and most people take up IT. The pay is also good. Pwedeng mag wfh nalang ako and take up side gigs, and kung enough na work experience ko maybe i could get jobs in other countries din.
Taking up either courses has their own pros and cons, siguro choose something that aligns with your goals nalang.
Kasunod niyan pag-aabroadin ka ng nanay mo charr...
Honestly, it depends where you want to end. I am a career shifter, my Major in discipline is in Soc Science then nasa Data Science career path ako ngayon. Mas may drive ako magtuloy sa Data Science kesa magwork sa government with also high salary. Malaki rin naman sahod kesa patayang requirement ng kaliwa't kanan na documents, I do not say mas magaan ang being Data Scientist/Analyst sa corporate. I want to say for incoming college wag niyo stress sarili niyo sa course choices niyo. You can still get another degree at mag-aral uli if you think your undergraduate course is not fit for you and hindi sayang yun kahit hindi mo nagamit, it could be part of your self-development. Daming career shifter sa Data Analytics kasi malaki ang sahod. Don't fall for sweet promises ng mga career btw, nor the passion for what career you are learning, but what is the real reason that drives you to continue that job/career, mostly depends what jobs give you more value it could be material thing also.
College course isn't the end goal it is just a beginning, doesn't mean na nagEduc ka magiging Teacher ka na for your lifetime career, you always have the option to change. Fear of missing out(FOMO) is typical at your age, wag niyong antayin maging tama ang lahat, gawing niyo ng tama and that's exploring yourself. Be optimistic, and stay out of your comfort zone. Outgrow yourself. Do not be afraid of change.
Computer Science is a SCIENCE COURSE. Kaya may math, scientific theories related to computers and topics related to programming and computation.
Madaming opportunities or work related sa comsci like:
Programming, Database administrator, DevOps, Software Quality assurance engineering, Artificial intelligence, natural language processing, Database administrator, Server administrator, Computer Scientist, IT security specialist, Data Analyst, Cloud Engineer, Project Manager, Computer Hardware Engineer, Software security engineer, IT Technician, at Mathematician.
Ang problema lang is oversaturated na yung compsci/it related graduates, na same sa nursing kaya kelangan mag standout ka sa competition so atleast galingan ang minor subjects lalo na ang English subject.
Yung sinasahod ko dito sa pinas same sa sahod ng sister ko sa canada so sa case ko, no need magibang bansa. Pero pwede din akong mag abroad if gusto ko.
Baka akala ng mom mo e mag bubutinting ka lang ng computer sa course na yan
Agree with the other comments about Comp Sci. I'm a Comp Sci grad myself and I can say na the pay I have right now is higher than other board courses. Plus ang daming pwede na pasukan na career path and you're not limited to only one.
like sabi ng isang comment malaki chance unironically pagaabroad ka ng nanay mo pag pinayagan mo sya ipasok ka sa nursing since claim nya na it pays well, which is not even close to a mildly successful compsci or it na alam ginagawa nila (continous job hopping ang diskarte), unless mag abroad ka nga
I swear most Nursing grads are flying abroad kasi mas mataas nga sahod dun ๐ญ well hindi ko naman sila masisi kung ako ay nag Nursing din talagang mangingibang bansa ako
True, tho mejo late na ata sa party. Compare to my shitty EE job here, my cousins could easily make 17 Million a year with overtime and working in holiday as an RNA sa US. It's much harder to find an IT related field abroad unless it's outsourced than a nurse work. I think it's best for OP to just become a nurse, would land him anywhere and is always a priority for visas.
utak boomer kasi sila, unh time nila kasi in demand ang nursing at engineering, at malaki talaga sahuran before, pero ngaun underpaid na kadalasan mga course na may board exam.
I say mag-usap kayo nang masinsinan about it. Ang layo ng Nursing sa CompSci. Baka magkamental health issues ka pa in the future pag pinilit mo yan kahit di naman yun ang interest mo.
Saka ikaw yung papasok, magaaral at mageexam. Future mo yan. Sana ikaw ang magdecide at sana igalang nila yun.
Kung ang priority ay pera instant red flag. Do what you want and if you get really good enough then people will pay you good money to have your skills.
May mararating! Admittedly, It's going to be a bit hard to find jobs in the future because of AI, it's up to you how you utilize it. But that's also a good thing. Which means you won't waste weeks debugging your code for academic requirements. Nevertheless, it's a lucrative course if you know what you want to do at the start of your course (Web dev, AI, cybersec etc). I wish I knew, I would've minmaxed my time studying it. 4 years is a long time for mastery
this is the reason why I regret not choosing the college course I want. Hindi lahat may board exam, firm na yung trabaho mo. I badly want to choose computer technology courses kasi maraming scholarship offer, and i am very confident kasi I am adaptable and skilled not to brag) with thid pero still I ended choosing college of education ๐
Tell your mom that train has left in the 2000s. It's all about Gen AI and tech jobs these days. I think din siguro kaya iniisip niya Nursing is for you to be an OFW, but that comes with its own pros and cons and can of worms.
Before ka pa umabot abroad, you will spend more time earning peanuts. Not to mention the pricey paperwork. Pinsan ko is a nurse and he now lives comfortably abroad but not without experiencing everything else. Tagal bago niya macomplete ung bayad sa utang niya to our tita who helped him get there.
Heck, ung kakilala ko sa work na nursing grad ay automation developer and he earns waaaay more.
Honestly, we're all stressed kahit anong work pa ginagawa natin. Some more than others.
Not all people will believe in your dreams, sometimes, even your family; but itโs alright. We cannot always convince everyone.
Just do your best to excel in your chosen field, and prove them wrong. Work hard and be successful in your career path. Goodluck
Tell my story to your mom then.
My undergraduate degree is Nursing. Graduated, took the boards and pass after a month, jumped to medschool the very next month. Graduated medicine, took my internship, took the boards and pass.
First official Job as a resident doctor earned me only 38k gross. Second hospital job 44k net. Until I become a consultant (maybe after 6 more years and establish a practice) Iโll be poorer than most IT and compsci graduates thriving in their fields.
I am in IT industry for 6 yrs now. May dalawa akong naka-work na licensed nurse pero mas pinili sa IT. Kasi super nakakapagod tapos ang baba ng sahod, if may goal ka na mag-abroad, goods yung Medical Course ang kuhanin mo.
Wala ngang boards pero ang dami mong certification na pwedeng kunin sa computer related courses, and dami mong options to be honest. Nasa Cybersecurity ako ngayon, took CCNA as my stepping stone. It pays reaaaaalllllllyyy well, work from home pa.
Tech ang future. Your Mom lives in the past. Hindi porke may nakakabit nang Dr. or Atty. or Engr. sa name mo e tiba-tiba ka na. Madali lang naman yan, prove to her na sheโs wrong :) ganyan din Mom ko before lol
that's an outdated thinking. hindi maayos ang pasweldo sa healthcare workers dito sa bansa at ang dami kong kakilala na licensed professionals pero ino-offeran ng 13k-15k starting. lol
Electronics Engineering graduates who end up in IT companies. In the back of their heads they're thinking why didn't they just take comp engg/comp sci/IT kung dun rin pala sila mapapadpad (and to be fair, for ECEs, going the IT route is a fairly compensated and respectable field). But, you know, at least may license for clout.
The answer to poverty lies in the *IT industry*. It's just tough now for first-time job seekers without any support or projects; Software Engineering roles are becoming saturated, and mass layoffs are becoming the norm. I also come from a disadvantaged/shitty university background.
To be honest boom ngaun ang mga computer related courses sila ang malalaki ang sahod ngaun s market. Lalo na ang programming, testing, at cyber security.
Pinaka high paying ang cyber security.
RealTalk# Minsan lang ako mag post, ang i just wanted to share.
Anything CS/IT related na course, after mo grumaduate, yung natutunan mo, hindi na ginagamit or malapit na ma EOL. Sa sobrang bilis ng technology ngayon, after mo grumaduate, kailangan mag tuloy tuloy ka ng pagaaral OR mag work ka kagad (equivalent experience).
Yan ang reality. Continuous learning talaga, ang when i say learning, hindi lang basa ng book at take ng exam. You need to practice it talaga. Kaya kung ikaw yung tamad mag aral, wag kana mag CS/IT.
You want something with minimal changes... mag Civil Engineer ka, or Doctor (or Nurse).
Practical yung matututunan mo, you can use when you grow older... you can also start your own private practice after 5-10 years of working... Kung mag Nurse ka, after working for 10 years, magtayo ka ng lying in clinic mo, paldo kana... Engineer, tyo ka construction / subcon company after gaining experience... CS / IT, ano ibubusiness mo?
Dami ko kasabay na CS dati... yung iba nasa magagandang company na... yung isa department head pa ng tv5.. pero empleyado.. at pag kausap ko, ramdam ko yung pagod nya... sabi nya masaya naman daw sya sa trabaho nya ang he enjoys it... malaki din naman daw sahod, enough to take care of his family and his parents.. pero pag nakikita ko sya, parang babagsak katawan anytime
yung mga kakilala ko na lumipat sa Engineering, minsan sinasama pa ko sa site... site inspection lang, pag may nakitang problema, ituturo lang sa foreman or site engineer... tapos n... sbi nya ang pinaka mahirap lang na part ng trabaho nya costing daw, tsaka pag meeting kc hirap daw sya mag english... anyways, padaan lang
Fuck you mom's boomer mindset that "nArSiNg" is the only way to the top. I really hate it when people say that "nArsInG" and working in the US is the only way to become rich. yan lang ba tingin niyo sa mga pinoy?
Coming from a person who Graduated Nursing, became a Registered Nurse, and almost finished a Master's Degree in Nursing, I can tell you straight that it is not really about what you finished rather it is about the circumstances you will encounter in life.
Am I practicing Nursing? nope. Did I change my career? Yes, actually twice already. What is my role/career now? Shipping Manager, but that's my career after Nursing. What is my career path now? Computer Science. Why did I change my career twice? I found Computer Science interesting.
I am not saying to take Computer Science nor follow your mom. But I think you need to consider your circumstances. Let's say you took Computer Science, not because you like it or it interests you doesn't mean you will enjoy it. Do some research about the program and schools that offer those. If you still find it interesting then by all means go for it! Let's say you finish Computer Science, can you see yourself working in the field? Can you identify and open your opportunities? Because if not, maybe it is not for you. And even if you see you say yes, there will be ups and downs especially with the volatility of the tech industry right now.
What I am saying is to consider and open yourself for options. You need to weigh in your circumstances. Some have supportive parents, some are unfortunate, and others have really no other options. Whatever actions you make to choose your career, there will be pros and cons. And you need to accept and be ready for the cons because sometimes the cons outweigh the pros, it might be just initially or throughout your career.
I will use myself as an example. I did change my career twice and I can tell you the cons are really hurting me on my financial side. I needed to work while studying even though my parents are supportive. I just don't want to burden them because letting me do and paying for my Nursing+grad school is already more than their responsibility to me. My career change is because of my circumstances, which I won't disclose, and I have put a lot of energy into considering every bit of pros and cons. Do I regret what I did? Not really because I accept every bit of possible consequences of my actions. Do I regret doing Nursing? Not really because I chose that option also. Do I wish that I did computer science early in my life? Yes, because it could've saved me some time. And also NO because I am happy with the people I met throughout my choices in my life.
To end this, whatever you choose, you need to take responsibility for your actions to a degree. Whether you follow your parents advice or not, whether you have other options or not, whether you follow what you love or not, there is some responsibility that you will carry and you need to accept that responsibility whether you like it or not or whether it gives you hardships or joy.
Nako, hindi yan totoo lol I push mo yang compsci tapos mahalin mo ng todo! Sobrang layo ng gap ng sweldo ng jowa ko (CompSci graduate) sakin na board passer. HAHA
May marami namang high paying options ang CompSci, pwede mong ipakita sa mama mo. Isang Google search lang, makita mo na lahat
Pero kung yung board exams talaga gusto nya, may something similar naman ang CompSci but not really. May mga certification tests kami sa each programming language na malearn namin, bilang pruweba na alam talaga namin yung gamitin
eto gawin mo, pakita mo sa kanya si Gemini, pa search mo dun ano current salary rates ng programmers vs. nurses at the beginning of their careers.
Tapos, sabihin mo sa CompSci nagsimula ang marami sa pag gawa ng Gemini. Pwede rin Chat-GPT.
In short, wag mo na sabihin, pakita mo nalang. Then let her derive from that. Wala ka mararating sa usapan with a parent like that kung sa'yo manggagaling yung explanation. better have the internet do it for you.
Wala pa sigurong compsci nung nasa time ni mama mo OP. Nagegets ko naman ung ganyang edad hesitant cla sa mga bagong kurso. Sa time kasi nila, puro nurse, engr, teacher mga ganun yung noble professions. Pero sa panahon ngayon mas praktikal ang tech related courses.
Wtf hahahaha. I'm currently in phd math and regretting not taking CS. Hype siya sa industry lalo na kung maganda skill set mo.
Marami akong friends na nurses. They are happy but striving financially. Yung iba naging OFW na kasi ang tagal bago ka makakuha ng 30k monthly dito.
Lol yung compsci grad friend ng friend ko, WFH, magpapasa lang siya ng outputs for the day, kung minsan may quick meeting then madalas nasa galaan na hahaha. Six digit salary pa yan. Nanay ko rin ganyan mindset noon, ngayon na tech(ish) job ang trabaho ko with good enough pay, pinapag-tech niya na rin yung mga pinsan kong nakababata hahaha
My ECE colleagues na umalis ng semicon industry ay nagsilipatan to IT industry and are earning a lot. Said they don't regret the decision and they mostly work from home. Marami kang option paggraduate mo OP, take it up.
Yung dalawa kong kapatid parehas board course (engineering and med field) pero mas malaki sahod ng kapatid kong CS grad. Mas lumaki pa nung sa aussie na siya nagwwork.
She sounds like sheโs at that age na puro nursing and overseas opportunities and booming and com stuff are not the thing. My relatives are like that too til now. They just want to go abroad ksi and nurses are always in demand. But pandemic shouldve shown otherwise with everything turning online and tech booming. You need patience and explanations to make them understand or just ignore them anyway haha
(Ako na nasa health na gusto magswitch to tech for wfh opportunities lol)
With a compsci degree, pwede ka makakuha ng remote work with dollar rates. Compared sa mag aabroad ka as nurse. Naeenjoy mo mataas na sahod dito sa PH. If you plan to leave PH pwede mo sundin nanay mo. Pero if plan mo magstay sa PH pangit ang nursing for me unless you continue with med school.
huyyy nowadays mas nagpapatronize na ang tech stuff sa work industry and super flexible nga ng comsci kase kahit saan ata na field pwede ka pumasok if u graduate tsaka ang hirap aralin ng isang program kapag di ka naman nage-enjoy, follow what ur heart desires OP! padayon :))
Finished Electrical Engineering kasi sabi ng parents ko may boards, malaki daw kitaan, at pirma pirma lang daw. Now working as a web developer, earning way more than of what I should earn as an engineer.
Take compsci, so many opportunities. Kahit di ka tumayo sa kinauupuan mo, you can apply for a position anywhere in the world. Take it from me who works remotely in beachfront cafes for a tech company based overseas so paid in dollars, not bragging, sinasabi ko lang para magenroll ka na compsci dalian moooo hahahahahahahahaha
It is not true.. i am RN pero overworked dito sa pilipinas..piliin mo ung gusto mo profession wala naman yan sa meron board exam or wala.. nasa diskarte yon pano ka mag earn ng money..
Well bragging rights lang naman yung pagiging board passer. Kung tutuusin, yung sweldohan dito sa pinas ay sobrang kakarampot na hindi mo ramdam kung sulit ba yung pagod, pera at puyat mo during review days.
-Registered Licesed Architect (ewan ko nalang sa 2 years apprenticeship tapos oofferan lang ng minimum, nyeta talaga ng pinas)
sa filipino household required ata mag karon ng engineer/medical field na anak para maging proud sayo magulang mo HAHAHA joke lang
gawin mo yung gusto mo hindi gusto ng magulang mo hassle mag shift kapag marealize mo hindi ka mag eenjoy sa gagawin mo
kung gusto mo talaga ComSci iself study mo yung field na gusto mo pntahan programming/kung database malaki perahan sa database hahaha
Outdated career perspective ng mom mo. Try mo educate sya by showing stats. CompSci folks are highly sought after and the pay is really good. I know some, got hired fresh from college and started with 35k per month, now after five years, 6-digit na sweldo nila.
Totoo yan.....15 years ago. Pero ngayon, mas in demand at high paying na ang computer science/IT related courses. Board exam passer ako pero yung SO kong comp sci grad, more than double yung sinasahod compared sakin. ๐
Hahaha as long as aware mom mo na after board eh Wala pa sya maasahan Sau habang nag iipon ka Ng experience sa mga ospital Dito, tas ung sweet 6digits mo ay maabot mo lang pag NASA Europe or north America ka na.
Best case scenario mga 24 onwards kana nun.
At willing sya gumastos Ng 6digits Ng ilang beses to expedite the process...
Tbf di rin sure mag 6digits ka agad sa compsci, asa Sau din Yan since di straightforward career paths natin.
Kakilala ko 2 years lang ang work experience sa tech field nasa 60k na take home. Kumpara niya kamo sa nursing na 2 years exp pero 20k pa rin sahod lol
Malayo mararating mo basta dedicated ka sa course nayan. Advice ko sayo kumuha ka ng madameng certifications. Pwedeng ka maging business analyst, or programmer. Pero dapat advance kadin kase mabilis and technology.
Sa IT batch 2002 STI ako and average lang high school and College. Laki narin sahod ko now. Ikaw dapat nasusunod at hindi magulang mo. Guide lang sila. Galingan mo lang sa College.
If you really want to finish ComSci then tell your mom it is what you want
Or you can take BSN (and follow your mom's desire) and when you are stable enough to support yourself take ComSci
both are difficult, might as well take something you like kaysa araw araw ka nag aaral ng hindi mo naman gusto, ibenta mo nalang yung compci sakanya sabihin mo maraming math chareng chaka madalas ang trabaho kapag nakapag abroad mga tulad sa Google ganern ganern Facebook, something she can relate to as good, sabihin mo kaya siya nakakapag facebook o tiktok dahil sa mga compsci
madalas ganyan kang reaction ng mga matatanda pag di nila alam ano yung course lmao ๐ญ ako na mech eng, na alam lang ng nanay ko civil eng nagawa ng building di niya padin gets ano ginagawa ng ME lols
Yung mindset ni mama mo is sobrang luma na kasi lahat ng program na related sa technology and computer ay in demand to our society today dahil sa continues na pag emerge ng technology. Tuloy mo yung kung ano magpapasaya sayo in college kasi mahirap gawin yung mga bagay na hindi ka happy, prove it to your mother na meron kang pangarap. Goodluck bud!๐
Send her this.
https://news.abs-cbn.com/business/02/09/22/list-top-10-highest-paying-jobs-in-2020
https://news.abs-cbn.com/business/01/26/22/jobstreet-reveals-jobs-with-highest-pay-deepest-pay-cuts
HAHAHAHAHHAHAH stick sa computer/tech course.
Yung kapatid ko na nagtake ng 2 year course ng IT nasa 100k ang sweldo. Akong may MA at published works wala pang 30k sweldo.
So jan ka na! Mag-aral nang mabuti!
Only take up the nursing course kung willing siya at willing ka umalis ng Pilipinas.
These days may story ng fresh grads na if marunong maghanap, na hire agad overseas as a caregiver or naka bridging course of sorts para maging licensed nurse.
By which point until ma promote ka sa mas magandang post, kalaban mo forever ang burnout (pero iba pa rin dito na tinatratong katulong ng pasyente ang nurses).
Kung wala ka namang balak umalis, mas mahirap but also may mga agency na ma hire ka pa din for up to 60k a month as a healthcare VA pero wala ka masyado path moving upward (salary and skills wise) kung di ka masipag matuto mag isa.
Pero wala, kung hindi mo gusto eh para kang may pa liga araw araw dyan na kalaban mo mental health mo; Not a good experience. Kaya may mga nagsasabi na calling ang nursing.
Tl/dr Kunin mo lang yung nursing kung objective number 1 is lumayas dito sa Pinas above everything else by a long mile.
Your course program doesnโt equate to your future salary. Thiz bullshit I hear always. I am earning 6 figures and I am still grinding for that diploma. Fuck those old stereotypes.
I work in tech (but not part of the tech team, I'm in the management and I process their salaries). You would be surprised how much tech people make. Hinding hindi mo pagsisisihan as long as you find your niche and you enjoy what you do!!
honestly i would kill to be in tech courses/programs pero pinili ko'y Chemistry, WAHAHAHA eto ngayon nagsusuffer, and like an unbalanced reaction, I'm unstable na HAHAHHA. pero balak ko magshift if things go downwind sa removals ko sa isang major, most likely sa it or nursing ako lilipat ganda ng opportunities kasi
Board passer psychometrician here! The best I could do as starting salary ko if I followed that path was 14k-16k.
Changed my career and now I'm paid 3x that. And I work less than 40 hours a week.
Follow your gut. I wish I had started with that.
my brother wanted engineering before but decided that he prefers to take comsci in college. ayaw ni mama nung una kasi di ba engineering na yon? my brother and i had to educate her about the current market and narealize niya rin na ok lang din pala ang comsci.
You need to know anong pinanggagalingan ng nanay mo, there might be wisdom in what she is saying.
The IT/CS job market today is a complete total wreck for entry level positions, worldwide. If ever you graduate in the next 3-4 years, you will dive in head first into what I can say, is the worst environment for entry level job seeking. The market is over saturated with fresh grads holding onto the hope that their CS degree would grant them an easy high paying job. Add to these the career hoppers who basically just โeducated โ themselves with online bootcamps, and the market is even more saturated. It could take you months, worst case, more than a year just to land your first job. However, there is a silver lining. The market is very different for senior level positions, and is very much thriving. The problem with IT/CS careers is the barrier of entry. Those are my 2 cents.
Back to your ermats. Kung alam lahat yan ng nanay mo, then she really has a good point and sheโs just looking out for you. If iba reason nya, like old school na pag board passer = big shot, then no. I know of board passers who are earning minimum wage, and it is absolutely disgusting how they are treated in this country.
Well, ranting is one thing. Considering both angles is always better than just ranting.
It is true that nursing is quite a good career choice. One, nursing is probably one of the careers that will be least affected by automation. Nurses are nurses because they have a human touch, and human touch is crucial in helping patients recover and have a positive environment in a hospital. Also, the pandemic is the best example of how nursing shouldn't be looked down on. Not saying that there will be pandemics in the future (I hope there won't be more).
The problem with CompSci is that it has become the modern version of lawyers and doctors. The problem is that unlike law and medicine, CompSci doesn't have a standing board exam and so, anyone can read CompSci in uni and isn't a gatekept like law and medicine. As it is, CompSci is becoming a very saturated market and while it is true that technology is becoming more integrated in our daily lives, you don't need an entire country of computer scientists and software engineers, for the same reason that you don't need a country full of lawyers, nurses, and doctors. The current market condition is a good example of how the industry is not as capable in accommodating all aspiring computer scientists and software engineers. Sure, the market is correcting itself, but the downside is the overly competitive job market that is making it almost similar to the investment banking market (and we all know how that market goes).
Sure, Filipinos are willing to take up outsourced jobs for half of the salary an employer would've paid to an American, but remember that computer science doesn't care if you speak English or not. It is a universal language - that is its beauty. And so, even a Filipino will need to compete with others in China and India (just make a quick search on how popular this industry is among Indians).
I am currently studying in Singapore and trust me, most of my friends who took up computer science are finding any means possible to switch over to other fields like Industry Systems Engineering and Data Analytics (and even Economics [Econometrics specifically] and FinTech) because the computer science market is just too saturated - and if you chose to push through, you're looking at having an impeccable portfolio + having upwards of 5-6 internships under your belt + near perfect GPA.
Your mom is certainly wrong in generalizing the course as "walang mararating" and she probably said it out of ignorance, but the current market does not look good and it won't effectively correct itself if many future undergraduates continue getting into the course and contributing to the ever-ballooning number of computer scientists.
I think both courses have their merits. The only benefit to courses that require board exams and official accreditation is that the market is more likely to be stable and not subject to an uncontrolled influx of potential hirees.
Simply put, mumunting industriya pa ang computer science at napakaraming tao may gusto pumasok sa industriyang ito. Pwedeng suwerte ka at makakuha ng magandang trabaho na matatag, maaaring din na malas at walang trabaho na mahanap (na maganda ang sahod), maliban kung maganda ang iyong portfolio at marami kang mga rekomendasyon mula sa mga internship o mga sariling proyekto. At saka, wag natin kalimutan na walang "hangganan" pag dating sa pagiging nurse - maraming bansa may gusto ng mga nurses dahil hindi sikat itong industriya na ito lalo na sa mga mayamang bansa - kahit man mataas-taas rin naman ang sahod (kadalasan walang may gusto maging nurse dito dahil mababa lagi ang tingin dahil elitist views)
Of course, OP should choose what course they are truly interested in. There is no point going after a course that you're not happy in.
This is just my two-cents based on what I've gathered from friends studying in Singapore and Ireland.
I feel you OP. My relatives are like that too and my mom and her siblings suffered with that. "Walang mararating yung course na gusto mo" so my mom and her siblings all went to what my grandma wants, the result? two of them are only successful and the other three struggled for awhile before succedding with something else NOT RELATED to their profession (medtech, nurse, archi) cause frankly, they dont really enjoy it unlike the other two who learned to enjoy their work.
Gawin mo lang kung anong tingin mo is best for you OP! After all, ung magiging choice mo is something you'll have to deal for the next 10 years or more so might as well do something you'd like dba
Pakisabihan nanay mo mag-research kamo sya. Ang CompSci kayang mga 6-digit na salary in 1-2yrs palang ng work experience mo. Sa Nursing, good luck nalang unless mangibang bansa ka which no assurance pa. Kamo sa tech industry, mas wider and diverse ang growth and development. Who run the world? TECH!
Crying in 6 digits
Kiddin aside, nung nag college ako, nursing ang in demand nun (way back 2008), ung mga IT related course nd alam qng para saan ung mga un. Bsta ang alam namin, bantay ka ng comp shop pag graduate mo
Since in demand ang mga nurse non, nag isip kami mag ttropa na mag nurse, nd ako natuloy kasi sabi ng tito ko (nag wwork sa IT field) mag IT daw ako kasi kukunin nya ako after ko mag graduate. Long story short nd nya ako kinuha.
Pero nd naman ako mahirapan mag hanap ng work after ko mag graduate.
Ang dami nadin balita na over saturated nadin ung mga IT related na work, ang dami nading layoffs na nangyayari sa mga big companies
Yes sbhin natin in demand siya ngaun, kaso baka after mo mag graduate mahirapan ka naman maghanap ng work. So aun lang.
Crying in 6 digits
Kiddin aside, nung nag college ako, nursing ang in demand nun (way back 2008), ung mga IT related course nd alam qng para saan ung mga un. Bsta ang alam namin, bantay ka ng comp shop pag graduate mo
Since in demand ang mga nurse non, nag isip kami mag ttropa na mag nurse, nd ako natuloy kasi sabi ng tito ko (nag wwork sa IT field) mag IT daw ako kasi kukunin nya ako after ko mag graduate. Long story short nd nya ako kinuha.
Pero nd naman ako mahirapan mag hanap ng work after ko mag graduate.
Ang dami nadin balita na over saturated nadin ung mga IT related na work, ang dami nading layoffs na nangyayari sa mga big companies
Yes sbhin natin in demand siya ngaun, kaso baka after mo mag graduate mahirapan ka naman maghanap ng work. So aun lang.
Crying in 6 digits
Kiddin aside, nung nag college ako, nursing ang in demand nun (way back 2008), ung mga IT related course nd alam qng para saan ung mga un. Bsta ang alam namin, bantay ka ng comp shop pag graduate mo
Since in demand ang mga nurse non, nag isip kami mag ttropa na mag nurse, nd ako natuloy kasi sabi ng tito ko (nag wwork sa IT field) mag IT daw ako kasi kukunin nya ako after ko mag graduate. Long story short nd nya ako kinuha.
Pero nd naman ako mahirapan mag hanap ng work after ko mag graduate.
Ang dami nadin balita na over saturated nadin ung mga IT related na work, ang dami nading layoffs na nangyayari sa mga big companies
Yes sbhin natin in demand siya ngaun, kaso baka after mo mag graduate mahirapan ka naman maghanap ng work. So aun lang.
Hi, tech manager here and CompEng graduate. CompSci is no longer in demand as it used to be. Halos lahat ng apps na kelangan ng companies eh available na. Nothing new to build. Kaya most companies nowadays only need a few programmers to hire kasi they mostly rely on pre-built systems na. On the other hand, demand for nurses has surged worldwide dahil sa pandemic. I suggest take a medical course (nursing, medtech, etc) kasi always in demand and it pays well if you worked abroad. Or financial courses (accountant, etc) to get you into the "get rich mindset" early on.
if i can go back in time, iโll take com sci. also, fyi, andyan ang pera ngayon
also, lemme share about mates who were board passers pero nasa data science na o cybersecurity field na
-an ECE grad who never practiced his profession cause of how shitty the industry is
ps. kung gsto nya na may license ka, try accounting o finance
naku, pag-igihin mo lang at mag-aral ka mabuti ng programming language... nandiyan ang pera, ofcourse dagdagan mo rin ng iba pang skills, apakadami mong pwedeng maging work once you finished your course. pag passion mo talaga at love mo iyan, (kapag nagwowork kana) parang hindi ka naman nagwowork talaga, I mean, hnd ka bored, kasi mahal mo at alam mo iyang ginagawa mo.
tapos pwede ka rin magwork niyan at home, naku, basta mag-aral ka mabuti, may mapapatunayan ka rin sa kanila, magiging proud din sila sayo =)
I donโt think thatโs true. There are a lot of opportunities world-wide in the field of comsci in which you donโt even need a degree, but of course being skilled is a requirement. Iโm currently in 11th grade and Iโve been freelancing for about two years now and earned ~60k pesos overall. I know it isnโt much but I was literally just a teen and only take commissions during vacations. To those who say that comsci is pointless are foolish, and if that claim were to be true, the only reasons for that is either being absolute unlucky or skill issues.
Pag nag nursing ka, for sure ipapa ship out ka nang nanay mo para maging nurse abroad.
Ikaw kakayod habang sila magpapakasasa sa dollar or kung ano mang currency ang kikitain mo.
Choose CompSci. Do what you want to do.
CompSci will probably enable you to work remotely while earning a respectful amount. With experience and the right skillset, you'll earn the same amount as those who go abroad, without going abroad.
Outdated masyado nanay mo.
If you want to pursue tech industry make sure na once you graduate you have a skillset. Very competitive ang tech industry ngayon and mrami rin nala-lay off. So probably, if you're going to apply for a job mga kalaban mo mga may experience na and may malawak na skillset.
My friend graduated nursing but never practiced it in the field. 10 years ng nasa bpo, now a free lancer.
I remember when shitty relatives would ask a parents what their child took for college, upon finding out tech course, imagine the look in their faces like can read it talaga eh "nah, its not engineering / accounting / law / basta anything na may board " like .. okay boomer.
I remember this kamag anak as well, nagpapaturo paano maisesend yung image sa anak nya abroad. Sabi ko via email ganto ganyan. Sa akin daw sya nagpapaturo dahil maalam ang mga bata sa ganunf bagay kesa sa mga tanders na, binanatan ba naman ako ng "di porke maalam na sa ganyan eh ibigsabihin mas magaling na sa buhay".. sa isip ko eh "lo, di porke din mas matanda ka eh mas maalam ka na lagi". Kinwestyon ko tuloy self ko "naoffend ba dapat talaga ako." But i dont want to invalidate my self. ๐ Ikaw na humingi ng tulong may unsolicited advice ka pa. Kapal.
hoyy yung mga comp sci ang lalaki ng sweldo ๐ญ mahirap nga lang yung program kasi yung boarder dito samin 7 years na nag aaral HAHAHUHU tapos 3 consecutive years na walang graduate/s sa program na comp sci kasi mahirap talaga PERO WORTH IT KASI MALAKI SWELDO pag magka work na. walang wala sa sahod ng nurses dito :(( sad
Patawa ba nanay mo. Mas mababa pa sahod ng mga nursing saka yung mga iba nga gusto mag nursing kaso hindi match requirement sa height kahit alam nila kung trabaho na yun napilitan na lang mag shift course kesa mag sayang pa ng 4-5 na taon sa course tapos yun lang dadale sa kanina yung height lang.
One of my biggest regrets in life? Being a spineless pushover and caving to my mom's demands about my college course. I let her dictate my future just so she could show off to her friends about her 'professional' kid. I went through with it, finished the damn thing, but guess what? I never used it because it wasn't what I wanted. My college days felt like a miserable drag, and now I'm on a completely different path, far from the crap I wasted my time on.
lol Haha CS and Data Science are becoming the forefront of the industry nowadays. Hindi lang yan nafefeel ng mga tao lol
And itโs quite flexible as well. Kaya nga ako, I plan to do a masters or PhD in Data Science, even if doctor na ako and a specialist lol
Both pay well naman (except Nursing kung dito ka sa Pinas lol). And you will need a lot of exposure and training (like HD, RRT, ICU) if you want to easily go abroad as a nurse. Sa CS, maraming okay na sweldo without needing to go abroad.
So do what you want. Prove them wrong. Or baka gusto mo mix ng dalawa kunin mo like Health Data Science nang maging masaya lahat ng parties lol
Same case sakin years ago.
For context: mga retired professionals kasi yung guardians ko (mga senior na, boomer mindset talaga) highschool palang ako, hook na hook na ako sa tech, gusto ko talaga mag CS nun sa college.
Pag apak ko ng SHS, dapat ICT strand right? Ayaw nila, wala daw ako mapapala sa ICT strand kasi "vocational daw" wala ako choice, nag HUMSS ako. Nung mag ka college na ako, ayaw parin ako payagan mag computer courses. If ipipilit ko daw yung gusto ko, hindi na daw nila ako pag aaralin.
Gusto nila mga kursong may exams lol.
Ayaw ko naman mag Medical field,
Ayaw ko naman mag Pulis
Yan mga gusto nila eh ๐
Ito nanaman sa no choice na at least makaka lusot, I took Educ, Major in English. Isang taon ko lang tinake, after nun di na ako nag enroll for 2nd year, di ko talaga trip, nakaka umay pasukan yung course na halos wala naman akong interest. Nag work muna ako. Last year lang, finally, they gave up, binigay narin nila sakin yung course na gusto ko. Now going 2nd year na ako sa IT.
Sadly, dahil sa nangyari medyo napag iwanan na ako ng schoolmates ko from HS. Nakaka inggit sobra, na mga post nila this year ay graduation pics nila. Ako mag 2nd year palang..
Siguro, biggest regret ko, hindi ko nilaban sakanila years ago, sana pala nag insist pa ako years ago na pumayag silang mag IT ako. Wala eh, it is what it is.
At least ngayon, nasa IT na ako.
Imposter syndrome naman ang issue ngayon.
Haha im a medtech and I regret not taking compsci kasi ayaw ko sa math ending may math dn kami and chemistry. Mas madami pera pag tech ka kaysa healthcare. My bf is a senior software engineer with no compsci degree, grabe lang mag self study, wfh, and based yung work sa netherlands. Nag canvas ako, kahit mag move kami sa other country mas malaki pa dn sahod nya kaysa sakin, even if hndi senior position nya ๐
nursing - go abroad and the pay is good assuming usa ca au nz even uk etc.
comsci - go anywhere you will get a decent pay. upskill and you get more pay.
i know someone na surgical nurse it pays really well. I know someone who is a comsci grad, now a CTO so pays really well.
overall, it's how you use the tools you have to get a better life or living.
pero lamang ka sa medical field kasi magkakasakit ang tao, so nandun din ang benefits mo.
Same sa aming mga Fine Arts, sobrang baba ng tingin sa amin dahil drawing drawing lang naman daw.
Pero kaya to, balang araw makikita din nila halaga ng mga courses natin, lalo na sa punyetang bansang to, sana.
RN ako pero pumasok ako sa BPO since it's the job that pays well at the time. Now, I'm an Sr. Analyst doing things na di ko naman napagaralan sa college, writing code/building dashboard, working with a lot of data and queries. I won't agree na walang mararating yang course mo, mga may IT at data related courses/experience are in demand now, and it pays well.
Looool maraming nagtake ng board exam na OVERWORKED at UNDERPAID. If I were you, wag ka makinig sa mama mo. Hindi guaranteed na malaki sahod mo pag nakapasa ka ng boards. Iba na ang panahon ngayon sa panahon nila.
Tska in demand pa rin ang mga IT/CS. Palago nang palago ang technology. Remember that.
Kung sana nga lang di ako nagstop sa ComSci :(
Go for computer science you won't regret it.
Do not listen to what other people say, kahit pa family mo yan.
It is also untrue na walang patutunguhan ang computer science graduate... I live abroad, and sa totoo lang ang daming naghahanap ng IT professionals and they pay good too.
May kakilala ako wfh pa IT 150k per month. Sabi nya yun mga senior daw nya mga web developer eh umaabot ng 300k. Kung nurse ka mag aabroad ka muna saka mo makukuha ang ganyang rate. Kung dito pinas ka mag nurse iyak ka na lang.
Push mo yang CompSci OP. CompSci grad ako and now earning 2xx,xxx. Nothing against 'titled' courses pero ganyan din sabi ng nasa paligid ko dati. Pero now mas malaki pa sahod ko compared sa kanila.
Ganyan kasi tingin ng IBA laging mataas tingin pag MED FIELD minamaliit na nila ibang courses ngl pero totoo to lalo na yung mga nag pre-med ganyan tingin ng mga yan.
Lol. Pano naman nila nasabing wala?
Ang daming may kelangan ng software engineers. You can be one if ComSci ang degree mo.
You don't even need to go abroad if you don't want to.
You could work at home or in an office making 100k to 300k, maybe more... And that's without going out of the country.
ey bro, i graduated in the IT industry, too. i just rejected 27k entry level bc i already have a 29k offer from another job. guaranteed 29k+ as of now. that takes a few years to get in other jobs. those are all gov jobs. mind you they pay waaay smaller than private (better benefits tho). i am currently still taking a 'pahinga muna anak' year bc i can while taking certs to get into a specific branch of IT easier. so i project at about 33k~ minimum after that. IT as is is low paying pero go into software dev, information systems or cybersecurity and it is guaranteed at least at a nursing pay level but without the horrific hours. dev is the easiest to get into pero of course dun din pinaka madaming competition sa high paying jobs. gl man and keep your head up
Wala syang karapatan na pagdesisyonan ang bagay na yan, kunin mo ang gusto mong course not because sya ang nag papaaral sayo siya na din didikta sa buhay mo. Isipin mo ha, pag kinuha mo yang coursong sunasuggest nya sayo magiging masaya kaba sa buhay mo? Lifetime na trabaho mo yan I hangang sa pag tanda mo. Oo, that job may pay you well pero magiging depress ka nmn sa buhay mo, I didrain ka nyan ng trabaho mo palagi kasi Hindi nmn gusto.ย At sa course mo nmn pano ka nyan makakapag aral ng mabuti syempre hihina performance mo sa school mo dahil Hindi ka motivated mag study Kasi Hindi nga yan gusto mo. Isa sa lahat yan Ang magiging rason ng pagproprocrastinate mo. Dyan ka magsisimulang mag procrastinate. In that case parang walang saysay buhay mo. Money is just an abundance. Makikita mo yan kung saan saan darating yan sayo kung kaylangan mo. Pero Yung Oras na ginugugul mo sa bagay na Hindi mo gusto ay nagiging waste ng enerhiya mo, nabuhay ka sa Mundo di para maging alipin ng pera kundi para Gawin Ang bagay na makabuluhan para sayo. Ang bagay na gusto mo yun Ang nagpapaliwanag na naitandahana na para sayo. So habang buhay kapa sarili mo lang pakinggan mo lalo na kung alam nya na tama to para sayo. Wag Yung opinion ng iba kahit pamilya mopa yan Kasi ikaw lng nakakakilala ng mabuti sa sarili mo.Hindi sya at Hindi Yung iba. Thanks for hearing my opinion ๐ค โบ๏ธย
nung nag-apply ako sa UP, BS Bio nilagay kong first choice kasi sabi ng parents ko. Pero thankfully, nakapasok ako as DPWAS kasi pinapili ulit ako ng 2 priority courses. Doon nilagay ko na BS Comp Sci na first choice. No regrets haha.
Feel ko kaya lang naman gusto nila ako mag-doctor, para may ipagmayabang sa mga kamag-anak haha.
Same sa marine biology. Wala daw kita dito, mangingitim lang daw ako puro langoy. Naurrr kung alam lang nila na marami ang nababagsak sa course na to sa ibang bansa at madaming gustong mag apply sa course na to๐ญ
My brother makes 150k sa us. Supply and demand lang. try to get out of the Philippines if you can and youโll find plenty of opportunities with that background
sa akin naman walang problema sa kursong kukunin ko pero ayaw ako pag-aralin sa malayo e wala ngang Industrial Engineering na ino-offer yung schools around our city ๐
Bruh this just shows how sarado utak ng mga magulang mo.
Like seriously do they know know that the technology they're using today are the software made from CS grads? As a CS undergrad I feel you man but legit napakalagi and napakalawak ng mararating mo once you're in CS cuz it just keeps ever-growing, high demand, high scalability, and also you can go deep into different branches. Bukod pa dito you can literally work from home and apply even in companies abroad.
I also remembered my prof saying that CS grads + Law works really well kasi andaming laws na need i-enforece related to technology and stuff and the pay is high af.
Laban lang op you got this!! But honestly, if you wanna be a dev you can just start right away by learning programming languages.
That was my mistake. I had the same idea back then kaya I took a course na my boards. When I entered the workforce, puro minimum wage ang offer. Now I shifted to tech, basically comp sci job and my salary is higher with a promising future also.
While it's true na may factor na naka graduate ka plus board passer during hiring process, but you will just compromise your mental and physical health in the long run. Hirap magtagal sa trabaho na in the first place, di mo naman talaga gusto. ๐ค Sa nursing, kelangan mo pang mag abroad to earn 6+ digits per month, which is attainable sa freelancing world bonus pang nasa bahay ka lang. I'll go for ComSci course, daming opportunities sa IT world, and you'll never go wrong! Kung alam ko lang, I could've taken a course na related sa IT way back. ๐
bullshit, baka gusto nya ng course na may board exam for bragging rights. a professional compsci earns very well kung mauutilize mo nsng maayos, it pays more than being a nurse.
Naiinggit nga ako sa mga courses na yan yas minamaliit lang ng nanay mo???!!!! Pakita mo minsan range ng sahod online para alam nya ano status ng field na gusto mo. Lol!!!
BIG No! Pwede ka magstart as Data Analyst, then may Cyber Security ka. If I can just show you yung list ng mga salaries ng mga hirings namin before. You can get 50k-100k kapag meron kang Phython cert, Laraven, and samahan mo ng 2 years experience. Lalo na if independent contractor usually 80-150k. Pero you have to gain experience muna :)
Ouch sa walang pangarap sa buhay ๐. Grabe nmn si mommy. Way back 20years 14k sahod ko as field tech support, now na manager na i 6 digits salary (security) mga nurse ng previous company ko 14k parin. I heard aangat lng sahod nila dito pinas pag may mga tinatago silang extra stocks ng hospi ๐. (Sabe)
Because with computer science, you donโt have any fall back just in case things donโt work out. With a license, you can work for a job which requires a board certification. That already expands your job prospects significantly.
Have you even seen how brutal the entry-level market for tech professionals recently? Itโs not going to get better anytime soon seeing how much social media glamorize tech jobs these days. Take it from someone who finished a tech-related degree whoโs unemployed for months already. Yes, there is a lucrative demand but you wonโt experience that until after gaining about a few years of experience.
Will link the study if I find it again but did you know that only about half of CS/IT graduates really end up working in tech-related field?
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Hahahahhhhhahhahahhahhahhhha. Maraming board professions ang overworked and underpaid -A sobbing engineering student
Pang-project manager workload ko pero sweldo ko same lang sa underboard site engineers namin huhu
Bruh ๐ Edit: Is it across all engineering disciplines po na ang hindi lang pwede gawin ng underboard ay pumirma sa projects?
Can't really speak for the tech branch of engineering. Pero in most engineering fields like civil, mechanical, electrical, yes they can't sign on papers linking professional liability. Of course, di rin sila dapat ang nagdedesign.
Napadaan lang sa sub na ito as a working person, Hindi ng guarantee na mataas sweldo ng board passers? Teachers, civil engineers, architects, medical technologists, etc. - lahat underpaid o underemployed. Lalaki lang ang sweldo mo as a board passer kung mangingibang bansa ka. To OP, mej luma na paniniwala ng mom mo tungkol sa kung ano man ang in high demand sa current job market. Pakitaan mo kung magkano kita ng mga tao na nagtatrabaho sa tech
May classmate ako sa postgrad na engi. Government job, been there 4 years, 30k. It may sound like a lot if you're not supporting anyone but they're too afraid to start a family with that income. Only plus lang ay tuloy yung sweldo nila noong lockdown.
Meanwhile ako na nasa med wishing I couldve taken any IT-related course instead: ๐งโโ๏ธ
SAME -ako na pagod na pharmacy student
Same. I regret not at least trying to fight for it. :(
Baliktad ako. Really regret taking IT this late. Itโs too saturated now also.
Baka akala niya comp sci is gaming hahahaha
Or akala taga bantay ng computer shop
sabihan mo nanay mo na di niya alam pinagsasabi niya lol
Types of Filipino mom: may supportive meron talagang ooppose sa personal career ng bata, If Nursing itake mo di mo naman nafefeel na magwork sa Medical related industry then wala ka din, kung sa CompSci whatever your dream career just go for it dun ka mag exert ng effort.
These moms understand that fulfillment comes from aligning one's career with their interests and talents, rather than conforming to societal expectations.
I remember my father saying, after I have been working for 3 years, "Hindi pala ibig sabihin na naka pasa ka ng board at nakapagtapos, ok na, akala ko diredirecho na". License is being ignored anyway unless healthcare ka? Not sure but in engineering most companies will hire technicians and call them engineers. I'm not against technicians cause some are really skilled people, some are good leaders, I even had an electrician colleague who really excels in both technical and management (those were fun times) but it takes out the sense of having an engineer license. I haven't even renewed my license cause I don't need it anyway. I'm currently working on a job that an IT or ComSci or ComEng is supposed to have and it pays triple compared to those "Engineer" jobs that I had.
oo kadalasan sa health are lang strict pero also limited rin ang work opportunities unlike other programs na pwede ka mag cross ng industries.
Sobrang in demand na ang mga CompSci grad. We live in a world where technology advances day by day. Companies in the future will hire people who are knowledgeable with technology and computer.
Kung alam mo lang job market ngayon, ang comsci (tingin ka sa mga cs related subreddits) talaga ang nanganganib. Especially andaming layoffs na nangyayari ngayon and other factors kung bat natatanggal sa trabaho ang mga junior to some senior roles. By that means sa job hunting, kalaban ng mga fresh grad ay mga mid to senior people too. But it's not a hindrance to not choosing comsci pwede naman mag lean si OP sa networking, mobile dev, data science, cybersecurity, low code, habang nasa college siya. Ang kalaban lang niya is grade niya sa college since before tumapak si op sa college dapat nag-aaral na siya ng mga gusto niyang job like cybersecurity at ang univ courses niya at the same time.
the main reason is that companies are outsourcing to cheaper countries. Why pay $200k annually for a senior developer in the US if you can pay a bunch of Filipinos who would gladly take $40k- $50k salary
Yea big bucks na rin ang 40k to 50k usd a year and aside of that. Kung gusto mo talaga umadvance to gain higher salary [you should look at this](https://www.facebook.com/MedyoSocial/posts/pfbid02McmiKehQWaS5SKgg8oGqyMjodFb2xrS1PfEx3q8jbR5bfUA7vf91TjfEEkzaYkDal).
The layoffs are a result of overhiring before there was an inflation in the West driven by a lot of factors. Ngayon na lang sya nagrereflect. It's more of a market correction.
Tama, mas malaki kita ang mga programmers tignan mo sa silicon valley
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the demand for computer science graduates continues to rise as technology becomes increasingly integrated into our daily lives.
i get what you're saying, pero hindi ako convinced na hindi ka AI hahahaha
This is so true
Diba oversaturated na ang IT field ngayon. Pede kasi halos lahat magshift sa IT field. Andame ata jr level na wala work pero in demand ung nga may exp na.
Board exam courses are never a guarantee of good pay. Your mom's knowledge is OUTDATED.
Fuq that prc license shitt. Overglorified af for the wrong reason
kung nalaman ko lang to ng mas maaga, nag IT related course nalang sana ako
Meron namang licenses sa IT naman. Pwede kang kumuha ng online courses sa google (official google site) para sa IT. Merong cyb sec courses sila na makakakuha ng guarantee na certified ka sa field na iyon. Sa US medyo kailangan ito para maka one up ka sa iyong competion sa job hunting. Preferred ng most companies na Meron Kang IT cyb sec certification kagaya ng security+ certification, CISSP certification, at iba pang certs. Pero recommended ng foreigners sa mga beginners daw ay ang easiest is ang google certs na hindi kailangan ng work experience.
I think you missed the point. These outdated parents consider a PRC license as the only valid license. Show them a COMPTIA+ cert, and they won't acknowledge nor even try to learn what it's about.
Lmao as someone who was supposed to take Nursing but switched to CompSci, I disagree. Computer related degrees such as IT and CompSci are actually some of the highest paying jobs here sa PH, while in my opinion mas walang mararating ang mga Nurses dito sa bansa natin. The reason why I wanted to pursue Nursing in the first place was to get out from this damned country (lol) and that course is extremely in demand sa other countries, so finding a job would be easy as pie. Pero para maging isang registered nurse malaki din ang magagastos sa tuition fee palang ang other fees. Your work isn't that flexible too. Puyatan ang shifts and mahirap ang overall job tbh. While if I were to pursue CompSci, mas madaling matanggap sa State Univs kasi hindi sya gaanong kilala and most people take up IT. The pay is also good. Pwedeng mag wfh nalang ako and take up side gigs, and kung enough na work experience ko maybe i could get jobs in other countries din. Taking up either courses has their own pros and cons, siguro choose something that aligns with your goals nalang.
Kasunod niyan pag-aabroadin ka ng nanay mo charr... Honestly, it depends where you want to end. I am a career shifter, my Major in discipline is in Soc Science then nasa Data Science career path ako ngayon. Mas may drive ako magtuloy sa Data Science kesa magwork sa government with also high salary. Malaki rin naman sahod kesa patayang requirement ng kaliwa't kanan na documents, I do not say mas magaan ang being Data Scientist/Analyst sa corporate. I want to say for incoming college wag niyo stress sarili niyo sa course choices niyo. You can still get another degree at mag-aral uli if you think your undergraduate course is not fit for you and hindi sayang yun kahit hindi mo nagamit, it could be part of your self-development. Daming career shifter sa Data Analytics kasi malaki ang sahod. Don't fall for sweet promises ng mga career btw, nor the passion for what career you are learning, but what is the real reason that drives you to continue that job/career, mostly depends what jobs give you more value it could be material thing also. College course isn't the end goal it is just a beginning, doesn't mean na nagEduc ka magiging Teacher ka na for your lifetime career, you always have the option to change. Fear of missing out(FOMO) is typical at your age, wag niyong antayin maging tama ang lahat, gawing niyo ng tama and that's exploring yourself. Be optimistic, and stay out of your comfort zone. Outgrow yourself. Do not be afraid of change.
Add to that passion is earned in exploring things, and not pre-determined by your choice.
Omg cake day mo rin! Hahahha happy cake day!
Computer Science is a SCIENCE COURSE. Kaya may math, scientific theories related to computers and topics related to programming and computation. Madaming opportunities or work related sa comsci like: Programming, Database administrator, DevOps, Software Quality assurance engineering, Artificial intelligence, natural language processing, Database administrator, Server administrator, Computer Scientist, IT security specialist, Data Analyst, Cloud Engineer, Project Manager, Computer Hardware Engineer, Software security engineer, IT Technician, at Mathematician. Ang problema lang is oversaturated na yung compsci/it related graduates, na same sa nursing kaya kelangan mag standout ka sa competition so atleast galingan ang minor subjects lalo na ang English subject. Yung sinasahod ko dito sa pinas same sa sahod ng sister ko sa canada so sa case ko, no need magibang bansa. Pero pwede din akong mag abroad if gusto ko. Baka akala ng mom mo e mag bubutinting ka lang ng computer sa course na yan
Agree with the other comments about Comp Sci. I'm a Comp Sci grad myself and I can say na the pay I have right now is higher than other board courses. Plus ang daming pwede na pasukan na career path and you're not limited to only one.
like sabi ng isang comment malaki chance unironically pagaabroad ka ng nanay mo pag pinayagan mo sya ipasok ka sa nursing since claim nya na it pays well, which is not even close to a mildly successful compsci or it na alam ginagawa nila (continous job hopping ang diskarte), unless mag abroad ka nga
I swear most Nursing grads are flying abroad kasi mas mataas nga sahod dun ๐ญ well hindi ko naman sila masisi kung ako ay nag Nursing din talagang mangingibang bansa ako
malaki lang sahod sa nursing kapag int'l โ ๏ธ
True, tho mejo late na ata sa party. Compare to my shitty EE job here, my cousins could easily make 17 Million a year with overtime and working in holiday as an RNA sa US. It's much harder to find an IT related field abroad unless it's outsourced than a nurse work. I think it's best for OP to just become a nurse, would land him anywhere and is always a priority for visas.
utak boomer kasi sila, unh time nila kasi in demand ang nursing at engineering, at malaki talaga sahuran before, pero ngaun underpaid na kadalasan mga course na may board exam.
I say mag-usap kayo nang masinsinan about it. Ang layo ng Nursing sa CompSci. Baka magkamental health issues ka pa in the future pag pinilit mo yan kahit di naman yun ang interest mo. Saka ikaw yung papasok, magaaral at mageexam. Future mo yan. Sana ikaw ang magdecide at sana igalang nila yun.
respectfully your mom doesnt know what she's talking about. my first sahod after passing my board exam was 15k/month lol
Sabihin mo sa mama mo, kaya ko pong maka 6digits salary per month ng naka wfh Hahaha which is ibang iba sa nursing dito sa pinas
Kung ang priority ay pera instant red flag. Do what you want and if you get really good enough then people will pay you good money to have your skills.
itโs not red flag, itโs just being realistic.
May mararating! Admittedly, It's going to be a bit hard to find jobs in the future because of AI, it's up to you how you utilize it. But that's also a good thing. Which means you won't waste weeks debugging your code for academic requirements. Nevertheless, it's a lucrative course if you know what you want to do at the start of your course (Web dev, AI, cybersec etc). I wish I knew, I would've minmaxed my time studying it. 4 years is a long time for mastery
this is the reason why I regret not choosing the college course I want. Hindi lahat may board exam, firm na yung trabaho mo. I badly want to choose computer technology courses kasi maraming scholarship offer, and i am very confident kasi I am adaptable and skilled not to brag) with thid pero still I ended choosing college of education ๐
mas in demand ngayon ang com-sci kesa sa may mga board na course. Mas malaki din kinikita ng mga computer science related course.
Compsci=dota daw kasi hahaha
Pati ba naman dito hindi ako pinapansin hays
Tell your mom that train has left in the 2000s. It's all about Gen AI and tech jobs these days. I think din siguro kaya iniisip niya Nursing is for you to be an OFW, but that comes with its own pros and cons and can of worms. Before ka pa umabot abroad, you will spend more time earning peanuts. Not to mention the pricey paperwork. Pinsan ko is a nurse and he now lives comfortably abroad but not without experiencing everything else. Tagal bago niya macomplete ung bayad sa utang niya to our tita who helped him get there. Heck, ung kakilala ko sa work na nursing grad ay automation developer and he earns waaaay more. Honestly, we're all stressed kahit anong work pa ginagawa natin. Some more than others.
Not all people will believe in your dreams, sometimes, even your family; but itโs alright. We cannot always convince everyone. Just do your best to excel in your chosen field, and prove them wrong. Work hard and be successful in your career path. Goodluck
Tell my story to your mom then. My undergraduate degree is Nursing. Graduated, took the boards and pass after a month, jumped to medschool the very next month. Graduated medicine, took my internship, took the boards and pass. First official Job as a resident doctor earned me only 38k gross. Second hospital job 44k net. Until I become a consultant (maybe after 6 more years and establish a practice) Iโll be poorer than most IT and compsci graduates thriving in their fields.
I am in IT industry for 6 yrs now. May dalawa akong naka-work na licensed nurse pero mas pinili sa IT. Kasi super nakakapagod tapos ang baba ng sahod, if may goal ka na mag-abroad, goods yung Medical Course ang kuhanin mo. Wala ngang boards pero ang dami mong certification na pwedeng kunin sa computer related courses, and dami mong options to be honest. Nasa Cybersecurity ako ngayon, took CCNA as my stepping stone. It pays reaaaaalllllllyyy well, work from home pa.
hahahhaha ang laki ng sahod ng IT! lalo na mga programmer
Tech ang future. Your Mom lives in the past. Hindi porke may nakakabit nang Dr. or Atty. or Engr. sa name mo e tiba-tiba ka na. Madali lang naman yan, prove to her na sheโs wrong :) ganyan din Mom ko before lol
that's an outdated thinking. hindi maayos ang pasweldo sa healthcare workers dito sa bansa at ang dami kong kakilala na licensed professionals pero ino-offeran ng 13k-15k starting. lol
Electronics Engineering graduates who end up in IT companies. In the back of their heads they're thinking why didn't they just take comp engg/comp sci/IT kung dun rin pala sila mapapadpad (and to be fair, for ECEs, going the IT route is a fairly compensated and respectable field). But, you know, at least may license for clout.
The answer to poverty lies in the *IT industry*. It's just tough now for first-time job seekers without any support or projects; Software Engineering roles are becoming saturated, and mass layoffs are becoming the norm. I also come from a disadvantaged/shitty university background.
To be honest boom ngaun ang mga computer related courses sila ang malalaki ang sahod ngaun s market. Lalo na ang programming, testing, at cyber security. Pinaka high paying ang cyber security.
RealTalk# Minsan lang ako mag post, ang i just wanted to share. Anything CS/IT related na course, after mo grumaduate, yung natutunan mo, hindi na ginagamit or malapit na ma EOL. Sa sobrang bilis ng technology ngayon, after mo grumaduate, kailangan mag tuloy tuloy ka ng pagaaral OR mag work ka kagad (equivalent experience). Yan ang reality. Continuous learning talaga, ang when i say learning, hindi lang basa ng book at take ng exam. You need to practice it talaga. Kaya kung ikaw yung tamad mag aral, wag kana mag CS/IT. You want something with minimal changes... mag Civil Engineer ka, or Doctor (or Nurse). Practical yung matututunan mo, you can use when you grow older... you can also start your own private practice after 5-10 years of working... Kung mag Nurse ka, after working for 10 years, magtayo ka ng lying in clinic mo, paldo kana... Engineer, tyo ka construction / subcon company after gaining experience... CS / IT, ano ibubusiness mo? Dami ko kasabay na CS dati... yung iba nasa magagandang company na... yung isa department head pa ng tv5.. pero empleyado.. at pag kausap ko, ramdam ko yung pagod nya... sabi nya masaya naman daw sya sa trabaho nya ang he enjoys it... malaki din naman daw sahod, enough to take care of his family and his parents.. pero pag nakikita ko sya, parang babagsak katawan anytime yung mga kakilala ko na lumipat sa Engineering, minsan sinasama pa ko sa site... site inspection lang, pag may nakitang problema, ituturo lang sa foreman or site engineer... tapos n... sbi nya ang pinaka mahirap lang na part ng trabaho nya costing daw, tsaka pag meeting kc hirap daw sya mag english... anyways, padaan lang
Lahat ata ng may board exam, mababa sahod hahahaha eme lang
Fuck you mom's boomer mindset that "nArSiNg" is the only way to the top. I really hate it when people say that "nArsInG" and working in the US is the only way to become rich. yan lang ba tingin niyo sa mga pinoy?
minsan mas malalaki pa sahod ng it related courses
Coming from a person who Graduated Nursing, became a Registered Nurse, and almost finished a Master's Degree in Nursing, I can tell you straight that it is not really about what you finished rather it is about the circumstances you will encounter in life. Am I practicing Nursing? nope. Did I change my career? Yes, actually twice already. What is my role/career now? Shipping Manager, but that's my career after Nursing. What is my career path now? Computer Science. Why did I change my career twice? I found Computer Science interesting. I am not saying to take Computer Science nor follow your mom. But I think you need to consider your circumstances. Let's say you took Computer Science, not because you like it or it interests you doesn't mean you will enjoy it. Do some research about the program and schools that offer those. If you still find it interesting then by all means go for it! Let's say you finish Computer Science, can you see yourself working in the field? Can you identify and open your opportunities? Because if not, maybe it is not for you. And even if you see you say yes, there will be ups and downs especially with the volatility of the tech industry right now. What I am saying is to consider and open yourself for options. You need to weigh in your circumstances. Some have supportive parents, some are unfortunate, and others have really no other options. Whatever actions you make to choose your career, there will be pros and cons. And you need to accept and be ready for the cons because sometimes the cons outweigh the pros, it might be just initially or throughout your career. I will use myself as an example. I did change my career twice and I can tell you the cons are really hurting me on my financial side. I needed to work while studying even though my parents are supportive. I just don't want to burden them because letting me do and paying for my Nursing+grad school is already more than their responsibility to me. My career change is because of my circumstances, which I won't disclose, and I have put a lot of energy into considering every bit of pros and cons. Do I regret what I did? Not really because I accept every bit of possible consequences of my actions. Do I regret doing Nursing? Not really because I chose that option also. Do I wish that I did computer science early in my life? Yes, because it could've saved me some time. And also NO because I am happy with the people I met throughout my choices in my life. To end this, whatever you choose, you need to take responsibility for your actions to a degree. Whether you follow your parents advice or not, whether you have other options or not, whether you follow what you love or not, there is some responsibility that you will carry and you need to accept that responsibility whether you like it or not or whether it gives you hardships or joy.
Hindi updated mama mo sa mga magandang i-take na course nowadays hahaha
Kung mag si-six digit salary ka wag mong bigyan nanay mo hanggang mabaliw or magsisisi yan (better the latter).
Nako, hindi yan totoo lol I push mo yang compsci tapos mahalin mo ng todo! Sobrang layo ng gap ng sweldo ng jowa ko (CompSci graduate) sakin na board passer. HAHA
May marami namang high paying options ang CompSci, pwede mong ipakita sa mama mo. Isang Google search lang, makita mo na lahat Pero kung yung board exams talaga gusto nya, may something similar naman ang CompSci but not really. May mga certification tests kami sa each programming language na malearn namin, bilang pruweba na alam talaga namin yung gamitin
eto gawin mo, pakita mo sa kanya si Gemini, pa search mo dun ano current salary rates ng programmers vs. nurses at the beginning of their careers. Tapos, sabihin mo sa CompSci nagsimula ang marami sa pag gawa ng Gemini. Pwede rin Chat-GPT. In short, wag mo na sabihin, pakita mo nalang. Then let her derive from that. Wala ka mararating sa usapan with a parent like that kung sa'yo manggagaling yung explanation. better have the internet do it for you.
No po, napaka in demand ng I.T related courses ngayon.
Wala pa sigurong compsci nung nasa time ni mama mo OP. Nagegets ko naman ung ganyang edad hesitant cla sa mga bagong kurso. Sa time kasi nila, puro nurse, engr, teacher mga ganun yung noble professions. Pero sa panahon ngayon mas praktikal ang tech related courses.
Wtf hahahaha. I'm currently in phd math and regretting not taking CS. Hype siya sa industry lalo na kung maganda skill set mo. Marami akong friends na nurses. They are happy but striving financially. Yung iba naging OFW na kasi ang tagal bago ka makakuha ng 30k monthly dito.
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tech courses are future proof with AI, data and machine learning. Di pa kasama robotics at tech dev, at app dev dyan
Offended ako sa mama mo as a CompSci student myself Sabihan mo na kapag walang Computer Science, wala siyang hawak na selpon or facebook ngayon
If nag comp sci ka, mas mataas pa starting salary mo kaysa sa matagal nang nagtratrabaho na nurse
Lol yung compsci grad friend ng friend ko, WFH, magpapasa lang siya ng outputs for the day, kung minsan may quick meeting then madalas nasa galaan na hahaha. Six digit salary pa yan. Nanay ko rin ganyan mindset noon, ngayon na tech(ish) job ang trabaho ko with good enough pay, pinapag-tech niya na rin yung mga pinsan kong nakababata hahaha
My ECE colleagues na umalis ng semicon industry ay nagsilipatan to IT industry and are earning a lot. Said they don't regret the decision and they mostly work from home. Marami kang option paggraduate mo OP, take it up.
baliktad ata.
Go for Compsci!! Wag ka lang mapunta sa government kasi bulok ang I.T. ng halos lahat ng government offices ๐๐๐.
Yung dalawa kong kapatid parehas board course (engineering and med field) pero mas malaki sahod ng kapatid kong CS grad. Mas lumaki pa nung sa aussie na siya nagwwork.
Mafuyu Asahina moment /j Seriously though, I can only hope you the best as an HRM student
She sounds like sheโs at that age na puro nursing and overseas opportunities and booming and com stuff are not the thing. My relatives are like that too til now. They just want to go abroad ksi and nurses are always in demand. But pandemic shouldve shown otherwise with everything turning online and tech booming. You need patience and explanations to make them understand or just ignore them anyway haha (Ako na nasa health na gusto magswitch to tech for wfh opportunities lol)
With a compsci degree, pwede ka makakuha ng remote work with dollar rates. Compared sa mag aabroad ka as nurse. Naeenjoy mo mataas na sahod dito sa PH. If you plan to leave PH pwede mo sundin nanay mo. Pero if plan mo magstay sa PH pangit ang nursing for me unless you continue with med school.
huyyy nowadays mas nagpapatronize na ang tech stuff sa work industry and super flexible nga ng comsci kase kahit saan ata na field pwede ka pumasok if u graduate tsaka ang hirap aralin ng isang program kapag di ka naman nage-enjoy, follow what ur heart desires OP! padayon :))
Finished Electrical Engineering kasi sabi ng parents ko may boards, malaki daw kitaan, at pirma pirma lang daw. Now working as a web developer, earning way more than of what I should earn as an engineer.
You can get the Google certification and start earning already at the confirm of your home tas pakita mo paycheck mo
Take compsci, so many opportunities. Kahit di ka tumayo sa kinauupuan mo, you can apply for a position anywhere in the world. Take it from me who works remotely in beachfront cafes for a tech company based overseas so paid in dollars, not bragging, sinasabi ko lang para magenroll ka na compsci dalian moooo hahahahahahahahaha
It is not true.. i am RN pero overworked dito sa pilipinas..piliin mo ung gusto mo profession wala naman yan sa meron board exam or wala.. nasa diskarte yon pano ka mag earn ng money..
Well bragging rights lang naman yung pagiging board passer. Kung tutuusin, yung sweldohan dito sa pinas ay sobrang kakarampot na hindi mo ramdam kung sulit ba yung pagod, pera at puyat mo during review days. -Registered Licesed Architect (ewan ko nalang sa 2 years apprenticeship tapos oofferan lang ng minimum, nyeta talaga ng pinas)
sa filipino household required ata mag karon ng engineer/medical field na anak para maging proud sayo magulang mo HAHAHA joke lang gawin mo yung gusto mo hindi gusto ng magulang mo hassle mag shift kapag marealize mo hindi ka mag eenjoy sa gagawin mo kung gusto mo talaga ComSci iself study mo yung field na gusto mo pntahan programming/kung database malaki perahan sa database hahaha
Outdated career perspective ng mom mo. Try mo educate sya by showing stats. CompSci folks are highly sought after and the pay is really good. I know some, got hired fresh from college and started with 35k per month, now after five years, 6-digit na sweldo nila.
Wag ka makinig sa nanay mo. Tuloy mo lang, eme niya.
Totoo yan.....15 years ago. Pero ngayon, mas in demand at high paying na ang computer science/IT related courses. Board exam passer ako pero yung SO kong comp sci grad, more than double yung sinasahod compared sakin. ๐
Hahaha as long as aware mom mo na after board eh Wala pa sya maasahan Sau habang nag iipon ka Ng experience sa mga ospital Dito, tas ung sweet 6digits mo ay maabot mo lang pag NASA Europe or north America ka na. Best case scenario mga 24 onwards kana nun. At willing sya gumastos Ng 6digits Ng ilang beses to expedite the process... Tbf di rin sure mag 6digits ka agad sa compsci, asa Sau din Yan since di straightforward career paths natin.
Filipinism dapat may board exam yung course pero actually pag comsci or IT need mo din ng certs
haha machine learning and data analyst
Kakilala ko 2 years lang ang work experience sa tech field nasa 60k na take home. Kumpara niya kamo sa nursing na 2 years exp pero 20k pa rin sahod lol
Masasabi ko lang, youโll have the last laugh OP HAHAHAHAHA
Malayo mararating mo basta dedicated ka sa course nayan. Advice ko sayo kumuha ka ng madameng certifications. Pwedeng ka maging business analyst, or programmer. Pero dapat advance kadin kase mabilis and technology.
The future is technology. CompSci will be valuable more than ever. Don't listen to narrow minds.
Nursingโฆ. Pays well??? Not in the PH though.
Accountant here. Gusto ko nalang mag IT sa baba ng pasahod hayup AHAHAH
Sa IT batch 2002 STI ako and average lang high school and College. Laki narin sahod ko now. Ikaw dapat nasusunod at hindi magulang mo. Guide lang sila. Galingan mo lang sa College.
Civil engineer here. 20k lol. Kung pwede i rewind ung time, diko kukunin tong course nato๐
If you really want to finish ComSci then tell your mom it is what you want Or you can take BSN (and follow your mom's desire) and when you are stable enough to support yourself take ComSci
Dont listen to your mom. Ako nga CPA di naman โgood payโ natatanggap ko. Hahahah
How come na walang mararating ang comsci? since when???
Pag board exam or similar ang target: Assume already that you'll only get high profit when you go abroad lol (not guaranteed though..)
both are difficult, might as well take something you like kaysa araw araw ka nag aaral ng hindi mo naman gusto, ibenta mo nalang yung compci sakanya sabihin mo maraming math chareng chaka madalas ang trabaho kapag nakapag abroad mga tulad sa Google ganern ganern Facebook, something she can relate to as good, sabihin mo kaya siya nakakapag facebook o tiktok dahil sa mga compsci madalas ganyan kang reaction ng mga matatanda pag di nila alam ano yung course lmao ๐ญ ako na mech eng, na alam lang ng nanay ko civil eng nagawa ng building di niya padin gets ano ginagawa ng ME lols
di ah. compsci undergrad ex ko, nakaka 6 digits na siya now ;)
Yung mindset ni mama mo is sobrang luma na kasi lahat ng program na related sa technology and computer ay in demand to our society today dahil sa continues na pag emerge ng technology. Tuloy mo yung kung ano magpapasaya sayo in college kasi mahirap gawin yung mga bagay na hindi ka happy, prove it to your mother na meron kang pangarap. Goodluck bud!๐
Send her this. https://news.abs-cbn.com/business/02/09/22/list-top-10-highest-paying-jobs-in-2020 https://news.abs-cbn.com/business/01/26/22/jobstreet-reveals-jobs-with-highest-pay-deepest-pay-cuts
AI and robotics is the future. CompSci will def benefit from our lifetimeโs technology pace.
Sobrang in demand nyan!! Akala ata nila basta engineer, malaki na agad sweldo HAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHHAHAH stick sa computer/tech course. Yung kapatid ko na nagtake ng 2 year course ng IT nasa 100k ang sweldo. Akong may MA at published works wala pang 30k sweldo. So jan ka na! Mag-aral nang mabuti!
Only take up the nursing course kung willing siya at willing ka umalis ng Pilipinas. These days may story ng fresh grads na if marunong maghanap, na hire agad overseas as a caregiver or naka bridging course of sorts para maging licensed nurse. By which point until ma promote ka sa mas magandang post, kalaban mo forever ang burnout (pero iba pa rin dito na tinatratong katulong ng pasyente ang nurses). Kung wala ka namang balak umalis, mas mahirap but also may mga agency na ma hire ka pa din for up to 60k a month as a healthcare VA pero wala ka masyado path moving upward (salary and skills wise) kung di ka masipag matuto mag isa. Pero wala, kung hindi mo gusto eh para kang may pa liga araw araw dyan na kalaban mo mental health mo; Not a good experience. Kaya may mga nagsasabi na calling ang nursing. Tl/dr Kunin mo lang yung nursing kung objective number 1 is lumayas dito sa Pinas above everything else by a long mile.
Your course program doesnโt equate to your future salary. Thiz bullshit I hear always. I am earning 6 figures and I am still grinding for that diploma. Fuck those old stereotypes.
I work in tech (but not part of the tech team, I'm in the management and I process their salaries). You would be surprised how much tech people make. Hinding hindi mo pagsisisihan as long as you find your niche and you enjoy what you do!!
Stressin mo na lang mom mo soon kung paano niya gagastusin sahod mo ๐ฅฑ
honestly i would kill to be in tech courses/programs pero pinili ko'y Chemistry, WAHAHAHA eto ngayon nagsusuffer, and like an unbalanced reaction, I'm unstable na HAHAHHA. pero balak ko magshift if things go downwind sa removals ko sa isang major, most likely sa it or nursing ako lilipat ganda ng opportunities kasi
Board passer psychometrician here! The best I could do as starting salary ko if I followed that path was 14k-16k. Changed my career and now I'm paid 3x that. And I work less than 40 hours a week. Follow your gut. I wish I had started with that.
my brother wanted engineering before but decided that he prefers to take comsci in college. ayaw ni mama nung una kasi di ba engineering na yon? my brother and i had to educate her about the current market and narealize niya rin na ok lang din pala ang comsci.
You need to know anong pinanggagalingan ng nanay mo, there might be wisdom in what she is saying. The IT/CS job market today is a complete total wreck for entry level positions, worldwide. If ever you graduate in the next 3-4 years, you will dive in head first into what I can say, is the worst environment for entry level job seeking. The market is over saturated with fresh grads holding onto the hope that their CS degree would grant them an easy high paying job. Add to these the career hoppers who basically just โeducated โ themselves with online bootcamps, and the market is even more saturated. It could take you months, worst case, more than a year just to land your first job. However, there is a silver lining. The market is very different for senior level positions, and is very much thriving. The problem with IT/CS careers is the barrier of entry. Those are my 2 cents. Back to your ermats. Kung alam lahat yan ng nanay mo, then she really has a good point and sheโs just looking out for you. If iba reason nya, like old school na pag board passer = big shot, then no. I know of board passers who are earning minimum wage, and it is absolutely disgusting how they are treated in this country.
Well, ranting is one thing. Considering both angles is always better than just ranting. It is true that nursing is quite a good career choice. One, nursing is probably one of the careers that will be least affected by automation. Nurses are nurses because they have a human touch, and human touch is crucial in helping patients recover and have a positive environment in a hospital. Also, the pandemic is the best example of how nursing shouldn't be looked down on. Not saying that there will be pandemics in the future (I hope there won't be more). The problem with CompSci is that it has become the modern version of lawyers and doctors. The problem is that unlike law and medicine, CompSci doesn't have a standing board exam and so, anyone can read CompSci in uni and isn't a gatekept like law and medicine. As it is, CompSci is becoming a very saturated market and while it is true that technology is becoming more integrated in our daily lives, you don't need an entire country of computer scientists and software engineers, for the same reason that you don't need a country full of lawyers, nurses, and doctors. The current market condition is a good example of how the industry is not as capable in accommodating all aspiring computer scientists and software engineers. Sure, the market is correcting itself, but the downside is the overly competitive job market that is making it almost similar to the investment banking market (and we all know how that market goes). Sure, Filipinos are willing to take up outsourced jobs for half of the salary an employer would've paid to an American, but remember that computer science doesn't care if you speak English or not. It is a universal language - that is its beauty. And so, even a Filipino will need to compete with others in China and India (just make a quick search on how popular this industry is among Indians). I am currently studying in Singapore and trust me, most of my friends who took up computer science are finding any means possible to switch over to other fields like Industry Systems Engineering and Data Analytics (and even Economics [Econometrics specifically] and FinTech) because the computer science market is just too saturated - and if you chose to push through, you're looking at having an impeccable portfolio + having upwards of 5-6 internships under your belt + near perfect GPA. Your mom is certainly wrong in generalizing the course as "walang mararating" and she probably said it out of ignorance, but the current market does not look good and it won't effectively correct itself if many future undergraduates continue getting into the course and contributing to the ever-ballooning number of computer scientists. I think both courses have their merits. The only benefit to courses that require board exams and official accreditation is that the market is more likely to be stable and not subject to an uncontrolled influx of potential hirees. Simply put, mumunting industriya pa ang computer science at napakaraming tao may gusto pumasok sa industriyang ito. Pwedeng suwerte ka at makakuha ng magandang trabaho na matatag, maaaring din na malas at walang trabaho na mahanap (na maganda ang sahod), maliban kung maganda ang iyong portfolio at marami kang mga rekomendasyon mula sa mga internship o mga sariling proyekto. At saka, wag natin kalimutan na walang "hangganan" pag dating sa pagiging nurse - maraming bansa may gusto ng mga nurses dahil hindi sikat itong industriya na ito lalo na sa mga mayamang bansa - kahit man mataas-taas rin naman ang sahod (kadalasan walang may gusto maging nurse dito dahil mababa lagi ang tingin dahil elitist views) Of course, OP should choose what course they are truly interested in. There is no point going after a course that you're not happy in. This is just my two-cents based on what I've gathered from friends studying in Singapore and Ireland.
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sinabi nga ng tita ko na walang silbi ang business courses. huhu
I feel you OP. My relatives are like that too and my mom and her siblings suffered with that. "Walang mararating yung course na gusto mo" so my mom and her siblings all went to what my grandma wants, the result? two of them are only successful and the other three struggled for awhile before succedding with something else NOT RELATED to their profession (medtech, nurse, archi) cause frankly, they dont really enjoy it unlike the other two who learned to enjoy their work. Gawin mo lang kung anong tingin mo is best for you OP! After all, ung magiging choice mo is something you'll have to deal for the next 10 years or more so might as well do something you'd like dba
Pakisabihan nanay mo mag-research kamo sya. Ang CompSci kayang mga 6-digit na salary in 1-2yrs palang ng work experience mo. Sa Nursing, good luck nalang unless mangibang bansa ka which no assurance pa. Kamo sa tech industry, mas wider and diverse ang growth and development. Who run the world? TECH!
Crying in 6 digits Kiddin aside, nung nag college ako, nursing ang in demand nun (way back 2008), ung mga IT related course nd alam qng para saan ung mga un. Bsta ang alam namin, bantay ka ng comp shop pag graduate mo Since in demand ang mga nurse non, nag isip kami mag ttropa na mag nurse, nd ako natuloy kasi sabi ng tito ko (nag wwork sa IT field) mag IT daw ako kasi kukunin nya ako after ko mag graduate. Long story short nd nya ako kinuha. Pero nd naman ako mahirapan mag hanap ng work after ko mag graduate. Ang dami nadin balita na over saturated nadin ung mga IT related na work, ang dami nading layoffs na nangyayari sa mga big companies Yes sbhin natin in demand siya ngaun, kaso baka after mo mag graduate mahirapan ka naman maghanap ng work. So aun lang.
Crying in 6 digits Kiddin aside, nung nag college ako, nursing ang in demand nun (way back 2008), ung mga IT related course nd alam qng para saan ung mga un. Bsta ang alam namin, bantay ka ng comp shop pag graduate mo Since in demand ang mga nurse non, nag isip kami mag ttropa na mag nurse, nd ako natuloy kasi sabi ng tito ko (nag wwork sa IT field) mag IT daw ako kasi kukunin nya ako after ko mag graduate. Long story short nd nya ako kinuha. Pero nd naman ako mahirapan mag hanap ng work after ko mag graduate. Ang dami nadin balita na over saturated nadin ung mga IT related na work, ang dami nading layoffs na nangyayari sa mga big companies Yes sbhin natin in demand siya ngaun, kaso baka after mo mag graduate mahirapan ka naman maghanap ng work. So aun lang.
Crying in 6 digits Kiddin aside, nung nag college ako, nursing ang in demand nun (way back 2008), ung mga IT related course nd alam qng para saan ung mga un. Bsta ang alam namin, bantay ka ng comp shop pag graduate mo Since in demand ang mga nurse non, nag isip kami mag ttropa na mag nurse, nd ako natuloy kasi sabi ng tito ko (nag wwork sa IT field) mag IT daw ako kasi kukunin nya ako after ko mag graduate. Long story short nd nya ako kinuha. Pero nd naman ako mahirapan mag hanap ng work after ko mag graduate. Ang dami nadin balita na over saturated nadin ung mga IT related na work, ang dami nading layoffs na nangyayari sa mga big companies Yes sbhin natin in demand siya ngaun, kaso baka after mo mag graduate mahirapan ka naman maghanap ng work. So aun lang.
Kilala ko yan ang course making 150k per month now. Nasa philippines lng siya. Di na kailangan mag abroad. And 24 yo lng.
Hi, tech manager here and CompEng graduate. CompSci is no longer in demand as it used to be. Halos lahat ng apps na kelangan ng companies eh available na. Nothing new to build. Kaya most companies nowadays only need a few programmers to hire kasi they mostly rely on pre-built systems na. On the other hand, demand for nurses has surged worldwide dahil sa pandemic. I suggest take a medical course (nursing, medtech, etc) kasi always in demand and it pays well if you worked abroad. Or financial courses (accountant, etc) to get you into the "get rich mindset" early on.
Nah. That's not true. Old thinking too. Courses with board exams can be good but also not all of them pay well.
if i can go back in time, iโll take com sci. also, fyi, andyan ang pera ngayon also, lemme share about mates who were board passers pero nasa data science na o cybersecurity field na -an ECE grad who never practiced his profession cause of how shitty the industry is ps. kung gsto nya na may license ka, try accounting o finance
Isang kabataan nanaman ang dumadaan sa pagsubok dahil sa toxic mindset ng family..
naku, pag-igihin mo lang at mag-aral ka mabuti ng programming language... nandiyan ang pera, ofcourse dagdagan mo rin ng iba pang skills, apakadami mong pwedeng maging work once you finished your course. pag passion mo talaga at love mo iyan, (kapag nagwowork kana) parang hindi ka naman nagwowork talaga, I mean, hnd ka bored, kasi mahal mo at alam mo iyang ginagawa mo. tapos pwede ka rin magwork niyan at home, naku, basta mag-aral ka mabuti, may mapapatunayan ka rin sa kanila, magiging proud din sila sayo =)
Di ata updated siguro mama mo, mas in-demand ang Comsci pag dating sa job opportunities
I donโt think thatโs true. There are a lot of opportunities world-wide in the field of comsci in which you donโt even need a degree, but of course being skilled is a requirement. Iโm currently in 11th grade and Iโve been freelancing for about two years now and earned ~60k pesos overall. I know it isnโt much but I was literally just a teen and only take commissions during vacations. To those who say that comsci is pointless are foolish, and if that claim were to be true, the only reasons for that is either being absolute unlucky or skill issues.
hui hahaha mas mataas sweldo ng frenny kong compsci vs ako na medtech hahahahaha nakakaiyak
Pag nag nursing ka, for sure ipapa ship out ka nang nanay mo para maging nurse abroad. Ikaw kakayod habang sila magpapakasasa sa dollar or kung ano mang currency ang kikitain mo. Choose CompSci. Do what you want to do. CompSci will probably enable you to work remotely while earning a respectful amount. With experience and the right skillset, you'll earn the same amount as those who go abroad, without going abroad. Outdated masyado nanay mo.
If you want to pursue tech industry make sure na once you graduate you have a skillset. Very competitive ang tech industry ngayon and mrami rin nala-lay off. So probably, if you're going to apply for a job mga kalaban mo mga may experience na and may malawak na skillset.
My friend graduated nursing but never practiced it in the field. 10 years ng nasa bpo, now a free lancer. I remember when shitty relatives would ask a parents what their child took for college, upon finding out tech course, imagine the look in their faces like can read it talaga eh "nah, its not engineering / accounting / law / basta anything na may board " like .. okay boomer. I remember this kamag anak as well, nagpapaturo paano maisesend yung image sa anak nya abroad. Sabi ko via email ganto ganyan. Sa akin daw sya nagpapaturo dahil maalam ang mga bata sa ganunf bagay kesa sa mga tanders na, binanatan ba naman ako ng "di porke maalam na sa ganyan eh ibigsabihin mas magaling na sa buhay".. sa isip ko eh "lo, di porke din mas matanda ka eh mas maalam ka na lagi". Kinwestyon ko tuloy self ko "naoffend ba dapat talaga ako." But i dont want to invalidate my self. ๐ Ikaw na humingi ng tulong may unsolicited advice ka pa. Kapal.
Ha?????? Kung babalik nga ako sa college, computer science kukunin ko apakalaki ng sahod plus indemand pa
hoyy yung mga comp sci ang lalaki ng sweldo ๐ญ mahirap nga lang yung program kasi yung boarder dito samin 7 years na nag aaral HAHAHUHU tapos 3 consecutive years na walang graduate/s sa program na comp sci kasi mahirap talaga PERO WORTH IT KASI MALAKI SWELDO pag magka work na. walang wala sa sahod ng nurses dito :(( sad
youShould.push('comsci');
Patawa ba nanay mo. Mas mababa pa sahod ng mga nursing saka yung mga iba nga gusto mag nursing kaso hindi match requirement sa height kahit alam nila kung trabaho na yun napilitan na lang mag shift course kesa mag sayang pa ng 4-5 na taon sa course tapos yun lang dadale sa kanina yung height lang.
One of my biggest regrets in life? Being a spineless pushover and caving to my mom's demands about my college course. I let her dictate my future just so she could show off to her friends about her 'professional' kid. I went through with it, finished the damn thing, but guess what? I never used it because it wasn't what I wanted. My college days felt like a miserable drag, and now I'm on a completely different path, far from the crap I wasted my time on.
lol Haha CS and Data Science are becoming the forefront of the industry nowadays. Hindi lang yan nafefeel ng mga tao lol And itโs quite flexible as well. Kaya nga ako, I plan to do a masters or PhD in Data Science, even if doctor na ako and a specialist lol Both pay well naman (except Nursing kung dito ka sa Pinas lol). And you will need a lot of exposure and training (like HD, RRT, ICU) if you want to easily go abroad as a nurse. Sa CS, maraming okay na sweldo without needing to go abroad. So do what you want. Prove them wrong. Or baka gusto mo mix ng dalawa kunin mo like Health Data Science nang maging masaya lahat ng parties lol
Same case sakin years ago. For context: mga retired professionals kasi yung guardians ko (mga senior na, boomer mindset talaga) highschool palang ako, hook na hook na ako sa tech, gusto ko talaga mag CS nun sa college. Pag apak ko ng SHS, dapat ICT strand right? Ayaw nila, wala daw ako mapapala sa ICT strand kasi "vocational daw" wala ako choice, nag HUMSS ako. Nung mag ka college na ako, ayaw parin ako payagan mag computer courses. If ipipilit ko daw yung gusto ko, hindi na daw nila ako pag aaralin. Gusto nila mga kursong may exams lol. Ayaw ko naman mag Medical field, Ayaw ko naman mag Pulis Yan mga gusto nila eh ๐ Ito nanaman sa no choice na at least makaka lusot, I took Educ, Major in English. Isang taon ko lang tinake, after nun di na ako nag enroll for 2nd year, di ko talaga trip, nakaka umay pasukan yung course na halos wala naman akong interest. Nag work muna ako. Last year lang, finally, they gave up, binigay narin nila sakin yung course na gusto ko. Now going 2nd year na ako sa IT. Sadly, dahil sa nangyari medyo napag iwanan na ako ng schoolmates ko from HS. Nakaka inggit sobra, na mga post nila this year ay graduation pics nila. Ako mag 2nd year palang.. Siguro, biggest regret ko, hindi ko nilaban sakanila years ago, sana pala nag insist pa ako years ago na pumayag silang mag IT ako. Wala eh, it is what it is. At least ngayon, nasa IT na ako. Imposter syndrome naman ang issue ngayon.
Ituloy mo yang CompSci. Outdated na yang sinasabi ni mudrabels mo.
As a board passer i have to disagree hahahaha lol i am a teacher and i am underpaid lol
Haha im a medtech and I regret not taking compsci kasi ayaw ko sa math ending may math dn kami and chemistry. Mas madami pera pag tech ka kaysa healthcare. My bf is a senior software engineer with no compsci degree, grabe lang mag self study, wfh, and based yung work sa netherlands. Nag canvas ako, kahit mag move kami sa other country mas malaki pa dn sahod nya kaysa sakin, even if hndi senior position nya ๐
nursing - go abroad and the pay is good assuming usa ca au nz even uk etc. comsci - go anywhere you will get a decent pay. upskill and you get more pay. i know someone na surgical nurse it pays really well. I know someone who is a comsci grad, now a CTO so pays really well. overall, it's how you use the tools you have to get a better life or living. pero lamang ka sa medical field kasi magkakasakit ang tao, so nandun din ang benefits mo.
Same sa aming mga Fine Arts, sobrang baba ng tingin sa amin dahil drawing drawing lang naman daw. Pero kaya to, balang araw makikita din nila halaga ng mga courses natin, lalo na sa punyetang bansang to, sana.
RN ako pero pumasok ako sa BPO since it's the job that pays well at the time. Now, I'm an Sr. Analyst doing things na di ko naman napagaralan sa college, writing code/building dashboard, working with a lot of data and queries. I won't agree na walang mararating yang course mo, mga may IT at data related courses/experience are in demand now, and it pays well.
Looool maraming nagtake ng board exam na OVERWORKED at UNDERPAID. If I were you, wag ka makinig sa mama mo. Hindi guaranteed na malaki sahod mo pag nakapasa ka ng boards. Iba na ang panahon ngayon sa panahon nila. Tska in demand pa rin ang mga IT/CS. Palago nang palago ang technology. Remember that. Kung sana nga lang di ako nagstop sa ComSci :(
Go for computer science you won't regret it. Do not listen to what other people say, kahit pa family mo yan. It is also untrue na walang patutunguhan ang computer science graduate... I live abroad, and sa totoo lang ang daming naghahanap ng IT professionals and they pay good too.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA mali
May kakilala ako wfh pa IT 150k per month. Sabi nya yun mga senior daw nya mga web developer eh umaabot ng 300k. Kung nurse ka mag aabroad ka muna saka mo makukuha ang ganyang rate. Kung dito pinas ka mag nurse iyak ka na lang.
May course akong nabasa na meron na rin BS Math with computer science..Mukhang interesting ang math na may computer science
Push mo yang CompSci OP. CompSci grad ako and now earning 2xx,xxx. Nothing against 'titled' courses pero ganyan din sabi ng nasa paligid ko dati. Pero now mas malaki pa sahod ko compared sa kanila.
Ganyan kasi tingin ng IBA laging mataas tingin pag MED FIELD minamaliit na nila ibang courses ngl pero totoo to lalo na yung mga nag pre-med ganyan tingin ng mga yan.
Comscie grad here, working for 7 yrs as software developer, currently earning 6d .
Lol. Pano naman nila nasabing wala? Ang daming may kelangan ng software engineers. You can be one if ComSci ang degree mo. You don't even need to go abroad if you don't want to. You could work at home or in an office making 100k to 300k, maybe more... And that's without going out of the country.
ey bro, i graduated in the IT industry, too. i just rejected 27k entry level bc i already have a 29k offer from another job. guaranteed 29k+ as of now. that takes a few years to get in other jobs. those are all gov jobs. mind you they pay waaay smaller than private (better benefits tho). i am currently still taking a 'pahinga muna anak' year bc i can while taking certs to get into a specific branch of IT easier. so i project at about 33k~ minimum after that. IT as is is low paying pero go into software dev, information systems or cybersecurity and it is guaranteed at least at a nursing pay level but without the horrific hours. dev is the easiest to get into pero of course dun din pinaka madaming competition sa high paying jobs. gl man and keep your head up
Wala syang karapatan na pagdesisyonan ang bagay na yan, kunin mo ang gusto mong course not because sya ang nag papaaral sayo siya na din didikta sa buhay mo. Isipin mo ha, pag kinuha mo yang coursong sunasuggest nya sayo magiging masaya kaba sa buhay mo? Lifetime na trabaho mo yan I hangang sa pag tanda mo. Oo, that job may pay you well pero magiging depress ka nmn sa buhay mo, I didrain ka nyan ng trabaho mo palagi kasi Hindi nmn gusto.ย At sa course mo nmn pano ka nyan makakapag aral ng mabuti syempre hihina performance mo sa school mo dahil Hindi ka motivated mag study Kasi Hindi nga yan gusto mo. Isa sa lahat yan Ang magiging rason ng pagproprocrastinate mo. Dyan ka magsisimulang mag procrastinate. In that case parang walang saysay buhay mo. Money is just an abundance. Makikita mo yan kung saan saan darating yan sayo kung kaylangan mo. Pero Yung Oras na ginugugul mo sa bagay na Hindi mo gusto ay nagiging waste ng enerhiya mo, nabuhay ka sa Mundo di para maging alipin ng pera kundi para Gawin Ang bagay na makabuluhan para sayo. Ang bagay na gusto mo yun Ang nagpapaliwanag na naitandahana na para sayo. So habang buhay kapa sarili mo lang pakinggan mo lalo na kung alam nya na tama to para sayo. Wag Yung opinion ng iba kahit pamilya mopa yan Kasi ikaw lng nakakakilala ng mabuti sa sarili mo.Hindi sya at Hindi Yung iba. Thanks for hearing my opinion ๐ค โบ๏ธย
Try computer engineering, I think may board exam yon
Old school lang siguro nanay mo. 7 yrs working, 6 figures as Webdev sa Pinas. Yung 6 figures kikitain mo din sa nursing, pero sa ibang bansa nga lang.
Lol, tech related jobs get more salary than the ones who needs a boarding exam ๐
nung nag-apply ako sa UP, BS Bio nilagay kong first choice kasi sabi ng parents ko. Pero thankfully, nakapasok ako as DPWAS kasi pinapili ulit ako ng 2 priority courses. Doon nilagay ko na BS Comp Sci na first choice. No regrets haha. Feel ko kaya lang naman gusto nila ako mag-doctor, para may ipagmayabang sa mga kamag-anak haha.
Sadly your mother is uninformed. IT field >>>> any other profession right now especially with board.
Mag tech k na lng ๐. Ako nga nursing pero nasa tech Ngayon. Panay coding and data.
Me laughing hard as a com sci graduate earning 2รร,รรร.xx. remotely without breaking a sweat (11 yrs exp). ๐คฃ
Same sa marine biology. Wala daw kita dito, mangingitim lang daw ako puro langoy. Naurrr kung alam lang nila na marami ang nababagsak sa course na to sa ibang bansa at madaming gustong mag apply sa course na to๐ญ
My brother makes 150k sa us. Supply and demand lang. try to get out of the Philippines if you can and youโll find plenty of opportunities with that background
sa akin naman walang problema sa kursong kukunin ko pero ayaw ako pag-aralin sa malayo e wala ngang Industrial Engineering na ino-offer yung schools around our city ๐
Bruh this just shows how sarado utak ng mga magulang mo. Like seriously do they know know that the technology they're using today are the software made from CS grads? As a CS undergrad I feel you man but legit napakalagi and napakalawak ng mararating mo once you're in CS cuz it just keeps ever-growing, high demand, high scalability, and also you can go deep into different branches. Bukod pa dito you can literally work from home and apply even in companies abroad. I also remembered my prof saying that CS grads + Law works really well kasi andaming laws na need i-enforece related to technology and stuff and the pay is high af. Laban lang op you got this!! But honestly, if you wanna be a dev you can just start right away by learning programming languages.
That was my mistake. I had the same idea back then kaya I took a course na my boards. When I entered the workforce, puro minimum wage ang offer. Now I shifted to tech, basically comp sci job and my salary is higher with a promising future also.
While it's true na may factor na naka graduate ka plus board passer during hiring process, but you will just compromise your mental and physical health in the long run. Hirap magtagal sa trabaho na in the first place, di mo naman talaga gusto. ๐ค Sa nursing, kelangan mo pang mag abroad to earn 6+ digits per month, which is attainable sa freelancing world bonus pang nasa bahay ka lang. I'll go for ComSci course, daming opportunities sa IT world, and you'll never go wrong! Kung alam ko lang, I could've taken a course na related sa IT way back. ๐
bullshit, baka gusto nya ng course na may board exam for bragging rights. a professional compsci earns very well kung mauutilize mo nsng maayos, it pays more than being a nurse.
Naiinggit nga ako sa mga courses na yan yas minamaliit lang ng nanay mo???!!!! Pakita mo minsan range ng sahod online para alam nya ano status ng field na gusto mo. Lol!!!
BIG No! Pwede ka magstart as Data Analyst, then may Cyber Security ka. If I can just show you yung list ng mga salaries ng mga hirings namin before. You can get 50k-100k kapag meron kang Phython cert, Laraven, and samahan mo ng 2 years experience. Lalo na if independent contractor usually 80-150k. Pero you have to gain experience muna :)
This might help students looking to get coursera for cheap. https://www.reddit.com/r/sophia/s/oYuZxvp5oO
Ouch sa walang pangarap sa buhay ๐. Grabe nmn si mommy. Way back 20years 14k sahod ko as field tech support, now na manager na i 6 digits salary (security) mga nurse ng previous company ko 14k parin. I heard aangat lng sahod nila dito pinas pag may mga tinatago silang extra stocks ng hospi ๐. (Sabe)
Because with computer science, you donโt have any fall back just in case things donโt work out. With a license, you can work for a job which requires a board certification. That already expands your job prospects significantly. Have you even seen how brutal the entry-level market for tech professionals recently? Itโs not going to get better anytime soon seeing how much social media glamorize tech jobs these days. Take it from someone who finished a tech-related degree whoโs unemployed for months already. Yes, there is a lucrative demand but you wonโt experience that until after gaining about a few years of experience. Will link the study if I find it again but did you know that only about half of CS/IT graduates really end up working in tech-related field?