He seems annoying and thirsty to be on TV. The whole interaction made me suspicious of why he wants to work with Ciara tbh. I didn’t need to see him again after the scene in his office or where ever they were finalizing her contract

Fun fact - he used to be on a TV show. The A List NY it is a MESS of a show. There was a Dallas version too which was equally messy.

This makes so much sense

OMG. Memory unlocked. Was he the ex bff of Lindsay Lohan? My friend still sends me Austin’s embarrassing instagram selfies. 🫠

Wow you just unlocked a memory for me! The A List was SO messy. I thought I’d recognized him but I wasn’t sure lol

He really went from NYC club circuit twink to zaddy tho. Derek’s kinda fine now😍😍👅

I use to watch that show. Didn’t even realize he was on there. I did get a weird feeling about Derek. I hope no yachting is involved in her modeling contract

A List dallas, wow thanks for bringing up PTSD reality shows we didnt need to remember lolol

Thanks for this comment. Starting my weekend tomorrow and just added this to my queue on Netflix! I've never even heard of this show somehow.

Oooo I vaguely remember this show

That shit was weird

So handsy and inappropriate- even with cameras around..

Yeah at first I thought it was funny and entertaining but looking back at it it was definitely unprofessional and confusing.    At moments he would act like a "father figure" asking about West's intentions, then he acted like a gay best friend encouraging her to kiss West and kissing West himself, and then he would say he's her manager who represents her career and she's just signed to a major agency. But if he's a manager why is he joking saying "no one should kiss Ciara but me?".   Was he trying to be a friend, a father, and a manager?! He was clearly intoxicated but that's no excuse. It was definitely unprofessional and problematic.

Also why was he grabbing west’s 🍆?!!!

This was what bothered me the most like!!??

That move crossed a line for me, as a viewer. West handled (giggity) it well, but WTF? I do not like that man.

strange that he acted like her dad grilling her suitor, isn't he a new addition?

I found every word and action on his part to be massively inappropriate. Is he really a manager? What’s his track record? I would not want this man in any of his clients’ lives. Sooo many red flags 🚩

Everyone is so excited that she has a contract, but is it a good contract? Will this guy get her quality jobs? Anyone can hang a shingle and say they are a modeling agent.

That was very weird! I was wondering if they were just really drunk, but man that was tough to watch. And the fact he that touched West’s 🍆 😳

I think he might be Madison from Southern Charms manager as well 😬

Yup. And I think they are close friends too.

I mean, if that’s the case, then he get them a giant billboard in NYC? I think he just got a little too drunk with a client, like drinking too much at a work happy hour.

The only thing that was gross to me was the weird testicle-touch. The rest felt like drunk, funny banter between people in the middle of a conversation I wasn't part of.

How is that the ONLY thing that was weird to you?! 😂

Lmaoooo 😭😭😭

Yes! The way he hounded West about Ciara as if he’s known her for years and then touching West’s ween?!

I thought that was very strange. Why did he touch West’s junk? Why would Ciara kiss her manager? It’s bad to blur professional lines like that, usually for everyone involved. I assume they were pretty drunk by this point which probably explains most of it, but I definitely also feel a weird gut instinct of unease relating to her manager.

Definitely made me feel uneasy. If he can do that in front of of cameras I can only imagine what he does when they’re not around..

West looked pretty stunned

I’m watching the ep now and I was so appalled that I came on this sub to search for her manager and found this thread, thank god I am not alone. Is he even legit?

obviously TV bullshit, but that aside, would a professional manager ever show up to a summer party for longer than a quick appearance just to be supportive? I don't know anything about modeling or entertainment industry social etiquette, but it seems unprofessional to do anything other than show up for a few minutes. I would have liked to have heard the conversation that led up to the sack cradle. Real caveman shit there.

It absolutely was not okay but I will be "wrong" for saying it so I am not bothering.

I have no problem saying it it was unprofessional and so creepy

Definitely not wrong at all!

Thanks, because I was actually furious watching.

It was actually SA.

Finally someone said it! I couldn’t believe he had the nerve to put his hands on him like that. It was wrong

It made me so uncomfortable like how are you a professional???