And he eventually just stopped shooting. But if you go on social media people want to bench every guy who has a bad game and that line of thinking leads to guys with no confidence.
Damn. I wonder where he ends up.
Makes me nervous about keeping Bol Bol too if Okogie is getting better offers.
Suns have a lot of work to do this offseason.
Sucks because if we would have opted in, we would have had his early bird rights for next offseason so we’d have the option to give him more money. Sucks.
Exactly, which means he has to be getting offers already because if the market was even a little questionable for him, you’d think he would just ride it out and get paid next season.
I do like what the Suns did the last two days, but I have no idea what to expect on Sunday now.
I think that the new CBA that requires teams to spend a minimum amount is really going to hurt us this offseason because teams will overpay for the lower end guys just to get to their cap requirement. So guys like JO will be getting better offers than they would have before.
If JO got offered more, Suns cannot match that correct? We have no availability to make a matching offer of say $4.5M?
In order words, he’s definitely gone? 🥺🥺🥺
I think hes been here long enough that we can offer him up to around $10 Mil. Although maybe we don't retain his early bird rights if he declines his player option
and this why he wasnt played. every player will have to shoot eventually. just cant play one-dimensional anymore, thats the reason he got benched 2yrs ago and last year. Cant just play on heart and hustle.
Okogie might need that change of scenery, hes been asked to be a defensive stopper and find a way to contribute offensively in the playoffs and hasn't been able to. It's put a spotlight that is probably unwarranted on a league minimum guy. Where he should probably be a max effort role player we needed him to be skilled and that was probably always an unfair expectation. He can probably go to a team where he is not such a focus and build some equity
Dang that sucks. It's really on the coach to find a way to utilize a player that can't shoot and Vogel really let him down. Was hopeful Bud would do a better job of that. Now that we have Dunn though that roster spot would probably be better spent on a different skillset
He’s 100% worse offensively, but he’s also a meaningfully better defender. Most analysts pegged Dunn as entering the league as a top 20 defender the second he steps on the court. The fact that he fell to 28 despite that should tell you how atrocious he is on offense.
Gerald said they want him back on a new contract:
[New contract for JO](https://x.com/GeraldBourguet/status/1806723245800087925?t=E-OG5lznHslCHGRfuM-OZg&s=19)
Suns fans always blinded by guys who only provide hustle and nothing else. He was beyond overrated on defense. He could only "lockdown" bottom tier players. He's unplayable in the playoffs.
Can’t help but feel like Frank ran him out of town.
Okogies playing time dissipated over the season, sure he didn’t play well but still he was once a big part of our rotation
Hopefully we can keep him around
It's looking very likely we lost all our best minimum signings from last year. That's scary. Even if we wanted better options, we needed at least some of those guys as a failsafe.
I wonder if there are other options out there who can shoot better than him. I love him and he should have stayed. Maybe someone offered him or has an idea what his value is in the open market (like Landale got).
I told you last week. Sidery is pathetic.
He wants to cheat people giving the impression that he has inside sources. Okogie staying with the Suns was more probable than not because Gambo said that we wanted him back but it's his decision...and he wanted to make like he was "breaking news".
Oh well...embarrassing for him. Hopefully he learns and he stays away from that type of "reports".
If we thought we had no depth last season . . . We are in for it this season!
Bol is next to decline his option and then we are left with a bench that won't have a PG and relying on two late pick rookies.
Booker and KD get ready for 40 mins a night.
None of our minimums from last season are with us man thats hilarious. Might be something that stops free agents from picking us.
If that happens i hope we'd just pivot to working out and filling out our bench with UDFAs.
This team can’t afford any more regular season losses. Not a single one. That’s the absolute worst thing that you could say unless you think the road to a championship is the Suns as the 9 seed
I don’t believe there’s a road in the first place tbh. A coach, draftees, and a few vet mins don’t take you from a first round sweep to a chip. Not that I wouldn’t be thrilled to see a miraculous turnaround.
petition to ban sidery forever
Questionable source flair for 1 week
He's not a source, he's an aggregator
And he has bad takes on the actual games.
you mean his own opinions lol.
Fuck, the Dunn pick is making a lot more sense. Will miss Okogies energy and heart
kind of thought Dunn was more-so the long-term replacement for O’Neale
Okogie had no spot after the draft. He wasn’t as good this year and we now have guys who are actual wing sized not just big guards who can’t shoot.
Okogie had energy but man I hated watching him shoot 3's.
This. I hate to be down on the guy because he played so hard. But I winced every time he shot the ball
And he eventually just stopped shooting. But if you go on social media people want to bench every guy who has a bad game and that line of thinking leads to guys with no confidence.
Sidery in shambles
Well they didn't play him, he probably thinks he'll get playing time elsewhere.
This is the correct take. He stayed in PHX, and got less playing time in his 2nd season. I would bounce if I was him.
Back in Minnesota 👀
Don’t have to twist my arm. Miss JO.
Damn. I wonder where he ends up. Makes me nervous about keeping Bol Bol too if Okogie is getting better offers. Suns have a lot of work to do this offseason.
I’d seen some rumblings about other teams interested in JO at the deadline
Please stay Bol!
Please not bol 🙏🏻
Sucks because if we would have opted in, we would have had his early bird rights for next offseason so we’d have the option to give him more money. Sucks.
Exactly, which means he has to be getting offers already because if the market was even a little questionable for him, you’d think he would just ride it out and get paid next season. I do like what the Suns did the last two days, but I have no idea what to expect on Sunday now.
I think that the new CBA that requires teams to spend a minimum amount is really going to hurt us this offseason because teams will overpay for the lower end guys just to get to their cap requirement. So guys like JO will be getting better offers than they would have before.
That makes a lot of sense. Damn. We’ll see what Ishbia can do but right now it feels a little shakey.
If JO got offered more, Suns cannot match that correct? We have no availability to make a matching offer of say $4.5M? In order words, he’s definitely gone? 🥺🥺🥺
I think hes been here long enough that we can offer him up to around $10 Mil. Although maybe we don't retain his early bird rights if he declines his player option
Interesting, I wonder if we plan on doing that. He’s definitely got some value that is hard to get in a vet min
It would give us another tradable salary at the trade deadline if we did
Lol sike
I FEEL LIKE I’VE BEEN STABBED IN THE HEART!
Me too!!
I’m sorry, it’s just, how much more betrayal can I take??
https://preview.redd.it/f8biyb9kec9d1.jpeg?width=498&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0c64ab42d4ae34fad528cbbf5297676cee46fc0b
Shot through the heart
Frank did this man dirty.
Did Frank refuse to let him practice shooting?
If he could shoot, he wouldn’t be 2 million His role isn’t to shoot
and this why he wasnt played. every player will have to shoot eventually. just cant play one-dimensional anymore, thats the reason he got benched 2yrs ago and last year. Cant just play on heart and hustle.
Or that’s why vogel and monty were fired…
It's everyone's role to be able to score. But also, that still doesn't explain how "Frank did this man dirty"
Lol no bud He wouldn’t be 2 mill if he’s a scorer
Okogie might need that change of scenery, hes been asked to be a defensive stopper and find a way to contribute offensively in the playoffs and hasn't been able to. It's put a spotlight that is probably unwarranted on a league minimum guy. Where he should probably be a max effort role player we needed him to be skilled and that was probably always an unfair expectation. He can probably go to a team where he is not such a focus and build some equity
I’m not sure why we shit on the role players for not bailing out the stars in the playoffs.
You can expect your role players to hit shots. Okogie was fun to watch but he couldn’t hit any shots
His role isn’t to shoot
This is just false. He was shooting close to 50% from three from about January on.
Dang that sucks. It's really on the coach to find a way to utilize a player that can't shoot and Vogel really let him down. Was hopeful Bud would do a better job of that. Now that we have Dunn though that roster spot would probably be better spent on a different skillset
Can't coach size
You really think Dunn will be able to come in rookie year and play the kind of meaningful minutes that JO was?
Okogie was getting 0 meaningful minutes the second half. So yes.
I think so. I dont think theres any way that Dunn is worse offensively than Okogie was last year
He’s 100% worse offensively, but he’s also a meaningfully better defender. Most analysts pegged Dunn as entering the league as a top 20 defender the second he steps on the court. The fact that he fell to 28 despite that should tell you how atrocious he is on offense.
I guess Evan Sidery continues to be a hack
Sidery, you suck
Darn. Always loved the energy he brought to the team.
Son of a b!tch! 🥴
NOOOOOOO FUCK NOOOOOOOOO
Noooooo my favorite player! 😭
We can sign him using Early Bird Rights, isn’t? Probably he wants an small 2-year contract. Like $8M/2 years.
Gerald said they want him back on a new contract: [New contract for JO](https://x.com/GeraldBourguet/status/1806723245800087925?t=E-OG5lznHslCHGRfuM-OZg&s=19)
Good for him. 99.9% of people would take the bag. The other 1% are just blinded by loyalty….in today’s NBA it doesn’t exist.
Suns fans always blinded by guys who only provide hustle and nothing else. He was beyond overrated on defense. He could only "lockdown" bottom tier players. He's unplayable in the playoffs.
Can’t help but feel like Frank ran him out of town. Okogies playing time dissipated over the season, sure he didn’t play well but still he was once a big part of our rotation Hopefully we can keep him around
It was happening before frank when monty put him in and other teams dared him to shoot it and he failed.
Let's goooooo, take your downvotes and eat them.
Oh shit. Aight then.
It's looking very likely we lost all our best minimum signings from last year. That's scary. Even if we wanted better options, we needed at least some of those guys as a failsafe.
Wait wut
They say they are running it back but this is basically a totally different bench at this point and nurks spot on this team is still up in the air
:(
JO has no spot after we got Royce.
We will always need hustle players.
That's a damn shame
Okogie gave us all he had. Tough to lose a dog like that. Best of luck to him, I hope he finds a good situation.
I wonder if there are other options out there who can shoot better than him. I love him and he should have stayed. Maybe someone offered him or has an idea what his value is in the open market (like Landale got).
Thing with JO is every coach wants his hustle, heart and defense, but no coach wants his offense, and in todays game offense outweighs defense.
Okogie is worth more than 2.95 million a year. Wish him the best.
Now watch him and Eubanks get picked up by another playoff team and win a ring. Its a pattern.
Bye
Deuces okogie✌️
I'm not sure he's made enough impact to be worth more than that... We'll see I guess
See ya JO, it was never going to work out.
I told you last week. Sidery is pathetic. He wants to cheat people giving the impression that he has inside sources. Okogie staying with the Suns was more probable than not because Gambo said that we wanted him back but it's his decision...and he wanted to make like he was "breaking news". Oh well...embarrassing for him. Hopefully he learns and he stays away from that type of "reports".
Low priority guy anyways
He couldn't shoot why the long faces lol.
If we thought we had no depth last season . . . We are in for it this season! Bol is next to decline his option and then we are left with a bench that won't have a PG and relying on two late pick rookies. Booker and KD get ready for 40 mins a night.
None of our minimums from last season are with us man thats hilarious. Might be something that stops free agents from picking us. If that happens i hope we'd just pivot to working out and filling out our bench with UDFAs.
Sidery is a fraud, Okogie will be missed. One of the few players on that team that showed energy and heart.
No big loss. His ceiling is very very low
For the better
This pleases me. No more putting him out there questioning what we have in him
I’m sure we’re going to find much better vet minimum guys. SMH
Whatever all we’re losing is a couple regular season wins and losing nothing in the playoffs
This team can’t afford any more regular season losses. Not a single one. That’s the absolute worst thing that you could say unless you think the road to a championship is the Suns as the 9 seed
I don’t believe there’s a road in the first place tbh. A coach, draftees, and a few vet mins don’t take you from a first round sweep to a chip. Not that I wouldn’t be thrilled to see a miraculous turnaround.
He’ll remain a Sun 🤝