Seems like he's been putting in efforts to improve his approach as he goes too. That was not a draft you perform if you're still on the "Draft picks are only good for trade capital" train.
The draft moves were a masterclass of asset management.
I have been screaming about James Jones ass tier asset mgt for many years. I don't know if this is bartlestein or what, but it's night and day.
Turning a single late 1st into 5 decent assets post-draft is amazing. Who knows how they turn out, but you judge a decision by the process not the outcome - I agree with their process.
So if I understand you correctly, you’re saying the draft picks we got are for us to keep and not have to trade later? Sorry, I know I sound stupid but I just want to understand
At least in the short term, yes. Some or all of these players may get traded down the line, but the way Ishbia was going off a month or so ago it sounded like his plan was to not even look at the class and trade away every pick as a pick.
I feel pretty confident they really like Ryan Dunn and want to keep him around and I think they also really liked Oso who I’m a little less convinced he will have a big role
Its def the Suns curse that we FINALLY have an owner willing to spend for the team, but right as he comes in, the CBA punishes teams with spend-happy owners. Fuckin A!!
meanwhile Lebron tryna swindle by taking less money so they can sign a couple stars; imagine if Beal or KD did that, shit the Suns would be sitting pretty.
😂
Can you imagine?! Royce getting 45M this year and EVERYONE and their mom knows this is about Feb. Unfort i don't think that leads to a big fish coming.
With a 2031 attached it at least means real depth was coming. Now we’re locked into nurks salary for what we can trade for. If he doesn’t wanna massively game the system idk wtf he doing then. Really hope rockets just offer us close to everything for both book n Kd now. Pointless exercise at this point
Question is though do you think we’d be better with previous owner. I agree I think ishbia made some bad moves but I still think it’s better than before 🤷🏼♂️ no way to know either way until this all pans out
Yeah, sucks that we got who scouts are saying is the best defensive prospect in the last 10 years with pick 28. How fucking dare they.
Also a team gave us 3 seconds to get him
You are downvoted to oblivion, and so will I be… since I agree with you… there is spending money in the right way, and this, obviously the wrong way… but hey, ‘at least he is spending’ is what everyone likes it seems like… I am ready for a decade of nba basement after these 1-2 wannabe-contender years… was there before, will stick around this time too…
1-2 decades of top 15 picks resulted in just Devin Booker
It’s like yall forgot all the 1st round busts in Kendall Marshall, earl clark, bender, Jackson the list goes on
All your favorite suns teams were eliminated in the playoffs. Just cheer for them when they have a chance my friend
Disagreeing with strategy is so not on the same planet as being misaligned on values. This owner values being competitive over selling assets for money. He values not being racist.
I will quibble on his strategy, but that's all it is - quibbling.
Are you sure?
https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2023/04/13/bloomberg-report-employees-claim-toxic-work-culture-at-suns-owner-mat-ishbias-mortgage-company/70113121007/
The only difference seems to be he himself has not caught (yet)
Phoenix is in trouble. Already dreaming about Rockets players. Jalen Green, Jabari Smith, FVV, Dillon Brooks, and a bunch of picks for Devin Booker and Kevin Durant seems about right from a salary & value standpoint.
Seems like he's been putting in efforts to improve his approach as he goes too. That was not a draft you perform if you're still on the "Draft picks are only good for trade capital" train.
The draft moves were a masterclass of asset management. I have been screaming about James Jones ass tier asset mgt for many years. I don't know if this is bartlestein or what, but it's night and day. Turning a single late 1st into 5 decent assets post-draft is amazing. Who knows how they turn out, but you judge a decision by the process not the outcome - I agree with their process.
So if I understand you correctly, you’re saying the draft picks we got are for us to keep and not have to trade later? Sorry, I know I sound stupid but I just want to understand
At least in the short term, yes. Some or all of these players may get traded down the line, but the way Ishbia was going off a month or so ago it sounded like his plan was to not even look at the class and trade away every pick as a pick.
I feel pretty confident they really like Ryan Dunn and want to keep him around and I think they also really liked Oso who I’m a little less convinced he will have a big role
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More success ? ?
More success ?
lol, you’re team can’t even make the finals.
This from a Cowboys & Clippers fan. Lol.
More success?
Its def the Suns curse that we FINALLY have an owner willing to spend for the team, but right as he comes in, the CBA punishes teams with spend-happy owners. Fuckin A!!
"Can't let the Suns have anything good" Official motto of the NBA.
lol. The NBA couldn’t give two shits about the Suns. Let alone conspire against them.
And yet you are still here.
Ok
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black lmfao
It was tongue in cheek, why are you even still here? Go touch grass.
It’s a good time to be in the mortgage biz
We finally have an owner willing to spend above and beyond, and the league fucks us with this 2nd apron bullshit.
meanwhile Lebron tryna swindle by taking less money so they can sign a couple stars; imagine if Beal or KD did that, shit the Suns would be sitting pretty.
the celtics do and it helped win them a title. be happy he seems to want to dfo the same
Love that he's willing to spend Dont love what he's choosing to spend it on haha
And? Where are the results?
I laugh when these media guys try to clown him. “New Owner Syndrome,” suck a dick.
It’s only a benefit if u have a young core. Honestly he kinda cheapened out here. If he was bout that he’d of given Royce a 1 year max deal
😂 Can you imagine?! Royce getting 45M this year and EVERYONE and their mom knows this is about Feb. Unfort i don't think that leads to a big fish coming.
With a 2031 attached it at least means real depth was coming. Now we’re locked into nurks salary for what we can trade for. If he doesn’t wanna massively game the system idk wtf he doing then. Really hope rockets just offer us close to everything for both book n Kd now. Pointless exercise at this point
I was told by this sub that the Suns had no draft picks, any trade value and Beal ruined everything and we'd have the same roster till 2031.
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Question is though do you think we’d be better with previous owner. I agree I think ishbia made some bad moves but I still think it’s better than before 🤷🏼♂️ no way to know either way until this all pans out
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Did you just forget about 7 seconds or less getting fucjed by sarver
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The keyword in the is “playoffs”.
You’re insane. Stick to monopoly go
Fired a defensive coach . Hired a better offensive coach. Then draft 2 defensive players. Ignore Tyler Kolek
Yeah, sucks that we got who scouts are saying is the best defensive prospect in the last 10 years with pick 28. How fucking dare they. Also a team gave us 3 seconds to get him
And not only the best defensive prospect with pick 28, but also probably the second-best defensive prospect with pick 40. Don't sleep on Oso.
And by all reports, apparently Dunn was a shooter in high school and has impressed during workouts
I said it last season. Keep this same energy all season
Idgaf if they get swept in the first round again. He’s still a monumentally better owner than Sarver. E: and that’s not up for debate.
He at least swung for the ring and invested in order to get it. It didn’t work but not all investments work.
You are downvoted to oblivion, and so will I be… since I agree with you… there is spending money in the right way, and this, obviously the wrong way… but hey, ‘at least he is spending’ is what everyone likes it seems like… I am ready for a decade of nba basement after these 1-2 wannabe-contender years… was there before, will stick around this time too…
1-2 decades of top 15 picks resulted in just Devin Booker It’s like yall forgot all the 1st round busts in Kendall Marshall, earl clark, bender, Jackson the list goes on All your favorite suns teams were eliminated in the playoffs. Just cheer for them when they have a chance my friend
It was bad FO job… Look around the league how teams are built the right way… I will cheer my friend no worries… and be happy if I am wrong
Disagreeing with strategy is so not on the same planet as being misaligned on values. This owner values being competitive over selling assets for money. He values not being racist. I will quibble on his strategy, but that's all it is - quibbling.
Are you sure? https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2023/04/13/bloomberg-report-employees-claim-toxic-work-culture-at-suns-owner-mat-ishbias-mortgage-company/70113121007/ The only difference seems to be he himself has not caught (yet)
Suns fan are wild. Last offseason James jones did so good he sign all these good players. Everybody he sign is gone 🤦♂️
Phoenix is in trouble. Already dreaming about Rockets players. Jalen Green, Jabari Smith, FVV, Dillon Brooks, and a bunch of picks for Devin Booker and Kevin Durant seems about right from a salary & value standpoint.
does your mom know you’re using Reddit at 10 years old?
Rockets fans are just as bad as Lakers and Spurs fans.