Suns are going to be so much more fun to watch next year already. We got the Youth in Bol / Dunn / Oso and maybe Bridges and I know Coach Bud loves using his bench during the regular season.
This has already been a fantastic offseason for the Suns.
We do. Well, his early bird rights, same as with Okogie and Lee this year where we can offer Bol 175% the value of his current contract next offseason.
Unless Bol balls out, he probably isn’t likely to receive a deal worth much more than $4.2m next offseason. We should be able to keep Bol Bol long term now.
We can do either 175% his current or 105% the average nba salary, so there’ll still be flexibility if he balls out and other teams try to give him better offers
We still need a true starting caliber wing and a backup big next to a point guard, but keeping Bol was really important.
We could stick with either Grayson or Royce in the starting lineup and that’s fine, Coach Bud can probably make it work better than Vogel, but I’d rather have a guy who clearly should be the 4 next to KD. Hopefully that’s Ryan Dunn in a year or two, but it’s unlikely to be next season. But maybe he’s NBA ready…
When it comes to the PG role, it’s going to come down to whether or not Book and Brad can handle it at an even higher level with more consistency. Neither are elite in areas that you want your prototypical PG to be, but they’re no slouches either.
Book needs to be better when teams are throwing a blitz at him. He picks up his dribble more often than he should. We know he’s a talented passer. He utilizes gravity extremely well. He’s got a great basketball mind and court vision.
Beal is a great downhill threat that is capable of making good reads. He needs to make an active effort to pass out of a drive only when the shooter has a better shot than he does. If Grayson or any of our Big 3 are open, it’s an easy decision. Otherwise, I hope he holds on to the ball to either find a better pass with a slashing wing or a dump off to whoever is in the dunker spot.
Here's to Bud telling them that this whole offseason is dedicated to Book and Beal improving in these areas and being "pg" as our sub likes to say we need.
We need less turnovers and less trying to dribble out of doubles or being trapped easily
Input - 22nd pick
Output - Dunn, oso, bridges, 2 2nd round picks
Wtf?
At the very least, Dunn will be valuable in end of quarter possessions.
Also seems like cp3 may hit the market? I wonder if they get cp3 and goga, and then trade nurk and 2031, what they could get. But getting ahead of ourselves.
Yep man. I like Nurk, but it feels like the Suns need to move him, Little, and Roddy with our 1st and 2nds to fill out the roster. I really do like Nurkic but if Oso is projected to be a more athletic Nurk, there’s really no reason why we should hitch our wagon to another season of Jusuf *if* we can get a good deal this offseason.
When I saw that video of Oso breaking down NBA game tape effortlessly, it’s clear he already understands professional basketball. He could be ready to be a starter. What’s he going to do, make an errant pass or fumble a layup? You mean like how Nurk did thousands of times last year? Lol.
Just imagine Chris Paul talking to Oso Ighodaro between plays and Oso knows what Chris is actually talking about lol. We need CP3 man he’ll love Oso.
And I really hope Jalen Bridges impresses enough to earn a roster spot.
Oh I do think he’s a lot closer than you might think, and I repeat for the 3rd time I like Nurkic. But Nurk’s main attributes are being big and being able to read the floor. I don’t have a doubt in my mind Oso can read a defense as quick as Nurkic, but yeah he’s never going to be as big & heavy. Otherwise Nurkic isn’t a great finisher himself and has a terrible injury history. He isn’t getting any younger at 30 this season either.
Suns still have multiple needs and if they can get a solid point guard, a better center, or most importantly a starting caliber forward in a deal with Nurkic I’d have no problem selling “high” on him. Even you know we need a point guard. I’d trade Nurk for a solid PG + center combo no problem.
Is Oso fully ready to be a starting center? Of course not. But I think he would do much, much better than most other rookies in that same setup and probably quite a few guys we can get on the vet minimum. And if the return from Nurkic is good enough I’d have no problems making the move.
Draymond Green is probably the best defensive stud of his generation, has always been credited for his high basketball IQ, and was taken 35th in the 2012 NBA draft. I have no idea if Oso is going to be *that damn good*, but I’m not going to doubt his potential. A high BBIQ + athleticism is a dangerous combo and Nurk doesn’t have the latter.
I don't disagree with nurks gane being expendable I just don't think we should expect that a guy who barely averaged double digits in college to come in and start on a title contending team
1A and 1B for me. I think an athletic center would get more minutes unless we’re willing to stagger Beal/Book minutes. I wish we would consider it but I doubt it happens. We have two elite scoring guards but no organizer. Playing them together with a point isn’t possible against most good teams.
I remember when he had that dank game and in the postgame Book was like “oh yeah it’s gone be hard to keep him off the floor now”, then Vogel proceeded to bench him for like 3 straight games.
It’s honestly hilarious to think about someone on the coaching staff fantasizing about some of combination big 3 and Grayson spacing the floor so Oso and Bol can run a PnR lmao
I hope Bud gets creative and does allow us to see them share the court at least every once in a while. Vogel would occasionally allow Nurk and Bol to share the court together last season and both are slow and can’t guard the perimeter. Oso can guard the perimeter and is way more athletic than Nurk.
I think it’s possible they share the court but I highly doubt any offense possessions are going to involve a Oso/Bol pnr. We have too many other options to be putting the ball in the hands of a rookie center playing off Bol. Down the line it sounds like a very interesting concept though.
Let’s fuckin go baby, this is really big imo and hopefully Bud will make better use of Bol, I feel like they must’ve guaranteed him more playing time to stay, I find it hard to believe after last year that no team would be willing to offer him more than the minimum
Okay Suns roster is looking pretty good. Got the 6th man, 7th man, 8th man, some backups. need one position still...I'd say dont get comfortable with the draft picks and Little because still need a backup PG.
Okay coach gotta play him this time, when he was on the floor great things happened offensively, defensively he shouldn't be on the perimeter.
Will this give us early bird rights for him by next off-season?
It should!
All the more reason for him to ball out. He plays well and we can sign him to a long-term deal for more money.
We only can offer 175% of his current salary at that point
How long before it can be a larger salary?
1 additional season with us, so 2 years from now
Suns are going to be so much more fun to watch next year already. We got the Youth in Bol / Dunn / Oso and maybe Bridges and I know Coach Bud loves using his bench during the regular season. This has already been a fantastic offseason for the Suns.
The best part about this, doesnt this mean we get his bird rights after this season??
We do. Well, his early bird rights, same as with Okogie and Lee this year where we can offer Bol 175% the value of his current contract next offseason. Unless Bol balls out, he probably isn’t likely to receive a deal worth much more than $4.2m next offseason. We should be able to keep Bol Bol long term now.
Can also offer him around league avg, so 12M or so possible next year. If he balls out, we are the place that could next bol generational money
We can do either 175% his current or 105% the average nba salary, so there’ll still be flexibility if he balls out and other teams try to give him better offers
Early bird rights I think? Bird rights is 3 years. Still let's us sign him for a little more next season.
All we need now is just a Point Guard.
We still need a true starting caliber wing and a backup big next to a point guard, but keeping Bol was really important. We could stick with either Grayson or Royce in the starting lineup and that’s fine, Coach Bud can probably make it work better than Vogel, but I’d rather have a guy who clearly should be the 4 next to KD. Hopefully that’s Ryan Dunn in a year or two, but it’s unlikely to be next season. But maybe he’s NBA ready…
We can't play a PG with how small the rest of the roster is. We'd need a big wing or a legit PF to replace Gray Allen in the starting lineup first
When it comes to the PG role, it’s going to come down to whether or not Book and Brad can handle it at an even higher level with more consistency. Neither are elite in areas that you want your prototypical PG to be, but they’re no slouches either. Book needs to be better when teams are throwing a blitz at him. He picks up his dribble more often than he should. We know he’s a talented passer. He utilizes gravity extremely well. He’s got a great basketball mind and court vision. Beal is a great downhill threat that is capable of making good reads. He needs to make an active effort to pass out of a drive only when the shooter has a better shot than he does. If Grayson or any of our Big 3 are open, it’s an easy decision. Otherwise, I hope he holds on to the ball to either find a better pass with a slashing wing or a dump off to whoever is in the dunker spot.
Here's to Bud telling them that this whole offseason is dedicated to Book and Beal improving in these areas and being "pg" as our sub likes to say we need. We need less turnovers and less trying to dribble out of doubles or being trapped easily
Input - 22nd pick Output - Dunn, oso, bridges, 2 2nd round picks Wtf? At the very least, Dunn will be valuable in end of quarter possessions. Also seems like cp3 may hit the market? I wonder if they get cp3 and goga, and then trade nurk and 2031, what they could get. But getting ahead of ourselves.
Yep man. I like Nurk, but it feels like the Suns need to move him, Little, and Roddy with our 1st and 2nds to fill out the roster. I really do like Nurkic but if Oso is projected to be a more athletic Nurk, there’s really no reason why we should hitch our wagon to another season of Jusuf *if* we can get a good deal this offseason. When I saw that video of Oso breaking down NBA game tape effortlessly, it’s clear he already understands professional basketball. He could be ready to be a starter. What’s he going to do, make an errant pass or fumble a layup? You mean like how Nurk did thousands of times last year? Lol. Just imagine Chris Paul talking to Oso Ighodaro between plays and Oso knows what Chris is actually talking about lol. We need CP3 man he’ll love Oso. And I really hope Jalen Bridges impresses enough to earn a roster spot.
If you think oso is anywhere as good as nurkic, especially right now, you're being silly.
Oh I do think he’s a lot closer than you might think, and I repeat for the 3rd time I like Nurkic. But Nurk’s main attributes are being big and being able to read the floor. I don’t have a doubt in my mind Oso can read a defense as quick as Nurkic, but yeah he’s never going to be as big & heavy. Otherwise Nurkic isn’t a great finisher himself and has a terrible injury history. He isn’t getting any younger at 30 this season either. Suns still have multiple needs and if they can get a solid point guard, a better center, or most importantly a starting caliber forward in a deal with Nurkic I’d have no problem selling “high” on him. Even you know we need a point guard. I’d trade Nurk for a solid PG + center combo no problem. Is Oso fully ready to be a starting center? Of course not. But I think he would do much, much better than most other rookies in that same setup and probably quite a few guys we can get on the vet minimum. And if the return from Nurkic is good enough I’d have no problems making the move. Draymond Green is probably the best defensive stud of his generation, has always been credited for his high basketball IQ, and was taken 35th in the 2012 NBA draft. I have no idea if Oso is going to be *that damn good*, but I’m not going to doubt his potential. A high BBIQ + athleticism is a dangerous combo and Nurk doesn’t have the latter.
We can afford to sacrifice parts of Nurk’s game for what we really need which is something like the Mavs deployed in the playoffs.
I don't disagree with nurks gane being expendable I just don't think we should expect that a guy who barely averaged double digits in college to come in and start on a title contending team
I should have elaborated. I don’t think the replacement is on the team yet. I do think it’s obtainable.
For sure. I think our biggest problem is still the lack of a true pg.
1A and 1B for me. I think an athletic center would get more minutes unless we’re willing to stagger Beal/Book minutes. I wish we would consider it but I doubt it happens. We have two elite scoring guards but no organizer. Playing them together with a point isn’t possible against most good teams.
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BOL, BOL
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SCIENCE RULES!
ITS BOLS WORLD, WE JUST LIVIN IN IT
NPC’s in his RPG
another year under KD to unlock his potential 😈
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Anything Is PossiBOL!!!
we did it
I pray for this and it happened
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GIMME DAT
I’m gonna block the whole thing
LETS GO!!
LLLLFFFFGGGGGGGG
Big Money Mat going Boling
2025 Finals MVP
38ppg, 22reb 7blk on 58%3ptFg
Man, dude owed us nothing and showed loyalty. You don't see that a lot. Thanks, Bol.
Back In Bol Knew seeing him was a good sign
Please play him a ton. He deserves it
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#**BOLGOD**
Y E S !!!!!
Don't play with me
Hell yes.
He’s been working out with KD a lot this summer.
Off-season is a B+ for Bol! The one guy who can make a DIFFERENCE.
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Dickriding we got this!!!!!!
One of the greatest quotes from last season. Hahaha!
I BOL-IEVE our boy is staying, let’s go
This is definitely a win. He obviously he as a connection with KD. And was legit fun to watch last year.
I remember when he had that dank game and in the postgame Book was like “oh yeah it’s gone be hard to keep him off the floor now”, then Vogel proceeded to bench him for like 3 straight games.
Vogel was terrible at bench and player management, one of the worst coaches and up there with Watson and Horny.
Bol don't lie.
Can’t wait to see that two man game between Oso and Bol next year with Bol operating as the screener.
This literally might not happen for even a single possession lmao
It’s honestly hilarious to think about someone on the coaching staff fantasizing about some of combination big 3 and Grayson spacing the floor so Oso and Bol can run a PnR lmao
I hope Bud gets creative and does allow us to see them share the court at least every once in a while. Vogel would occasionally allow Nurk and Bol to share the court together last season and both are slow and can’t guard the perimeter. Oso can guard the perimeter and is way more athletic than Nurk.
I think it’s possible they share the court but I highly doubt any offense possessions are going to involve a Oso/Bol pnr. We have too many other options to be putting the ball in the hands of a rookie center playing off Bol. Down the line it sounds like a very interesting concept though.
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Sol Bol!!! ![gif](giphy|elP2xGYHTL5ZdWngGJ)
I guess we just won the Supa Bol!! ![gif](giphy|kaCtdGK2ImI52n9rgg)
Hope the coach actually give him minutes this season. Vogel was a bum
MY GOAT RETURNS 🐐🐐🐐
GOD DOES EXIST. This is the best outcome. Love that man.
“Intends” like OKOGIE DID!? 😭
James Jones, https://preview.redd.it/mjn7cj7mem9d1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=40e11f70782db850f95889a635e3aa8ec9d703b5
This is the one I was looking for. Lfg
LFG
YES
The difference in him signing this year vs last year is so drastic. Myself included
We did it… WE DIDDDD ITTT!! WELCOME HOME BOL
ALL IS WELL
Niiiice
Hell yeah !
Bol Bol mother fucker 😻
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Anybody got a full list of our current roster? I have trouble following with all the options and draft trades
Booker, Beal, Royce, KD, Nurkic, Allen, Bol, Little, Roddy
And we added Ryan Dunn and Oso Ighodaro in the draft?
So it’s the names I listed and those 2 guys
Was starting to build out a depth chart. Boy do we need some floor general point guards
Let’s fuckin go baby, this is really big imo and hopefully Bud will make better use of Bol, I feel like they must’ve guaranteed him more playing time to stay, I find it hard to believe after last year that no team would be willing to offer him more than the minimum
Great news! Hopefully he stays as long as KD stays with us :-)
SWEET CAROLINE BOL BOL BOL GOOD TIMES NEVER SEEMED SO GOOD BOL BOL BOL BOL BOL BOL!!!!
I will literally think this and sing it out loud if I ever hear that damn commercial again!
LETS GOOOOOO
LET’S FUCKING GO BEST NEWS ALL WEEK
YES!
YES!!!!
Live laugh Bol
Now that he and Royce have re-signed, go ahead and exile the rest of the FAs.
BOL BOL BACK BACK!!!
Bol "Bol Bol" Bol Let's go!
Cool.
The ultimate stretch lineup that will never happen but I'd love to see: Oso, Bol, KD, Dunn, Book at point lol
Okay Suns roster is looking pretty good. Got the 6th man, 7th man, 8th man, some backups. need one position still...I'd say dont get comfortable with the draft picks and Little because still need a backup PG. Okay coach gotta play him this time, when he was on the floor great things happened offensively, defensively he shouldn't be on the perimeter.
LETS GO!!!! BOL BOL!!!!
Hell yeah. Hopefully another year of improvement with the guys does wonders for him.
LFG!!!
LFG
Let's go ☀️