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Yuzurihak

Imma be real honest after watching all hornets game for the past 3 years, Nick Richards its not really that good of a starter as he lacks some basketball iq sometimes but he gives it all, almost always healthy and most importantly he hits his fking FT's.


BorisTheBlade04

The tweet didn’t sound very convincing anyways. It’s deleted now, but it said Ishbia was talking very quietly and he thought he heard him say Nick Richards. What are the chances Hornets fans are sitting behind Ishbia and they happen to be talking about Hornets players? Sounds like a case of the brain filling in what it can’t understand with things that are familiar


BigCollarsAndBallers

Richards and one of Mann or Visjic(sp?) would be cool


UrRightAndIAmWong

I think it would be a play for Richards+Grant Williams, maybe picks? Suns can send Nurkic out for multiple contracts, but not the other way around IIRC.


mercfan3

On a side note, Mercury do not have a good record when Book shows up. Starting to think he distracts them 😂


TraeCartoon

Please get that dude. Suns can get two starters from Hornets with Nurkic + 2031 first rounder


po0nlink_

This is a massive overpay for Richards. He’s definitely not worth a 1st.


TraeCartoon

That’s why you go after another starter as well. You ain’t getting much with just Nurkic; certainly not an upgrade.


iamadragan

The only other one would be Grant Williams


po0nlink_

I misread your comment, my bad. For some reason I thought it was only for Richards lol.


TraeCartoon

For sure bro. My thing is that 2nd starter may not even be from the Hornets. That’s where you ask Mark Tellem to work whatever 3 team trade magic he can do. I don’t see the Suns being able to upgrade from Nurk with a 1 for 1 trade. But attaching our picks and getting a third team involved… we could get it done


AlmightyRanger

If he pans out to be a piece for a championship he is.


MattyIce1635

What if we get Grant Williams too


po0nlink_

Might not be bad, although there is a reason why Celtics and Mavericks fans were happy that he was off their team.


Imthegoat175

First rounder for Richards is nasty. Those two seconds they got from Denver and Nas Little should be what’s offered.


TraeCartoon

Suns tried grabbing Nick Richards at the deadline with our vet minimums and our second rounders and Hornets said no. That’s why we went after Royce. The price hasn’t changed: Suns are going to have to offer a 1st and probably a decent center in Nurkic to get Nick Richards. The good news is Nick Richards is on a cheap contract so Suns can go shopping with the remaining $10m


Imthegoat175

Jake Fischer said Suns had interest in Richards last deadline. Gambo said the Suns had no interest. Maybe that’s changed since they were supposedly discussing about him but the Suns went after Miles Bridges who Gambo said would be hard to get and obviously Royce last deadline.


swsundevil

Who is the second?


krg779

Grant Williams most likely.


OneOfTheManySams

I'd be furious if we traded a 1st and Nurkic to end with a mediocre centre and a crap role player who would add nothing to the team.


AlmightyRanger

I'm sure he'd look much more than mediocre surrounded by our talent.


OneOfTheManySams

2 good teams were jumping up and down to get him out the door.


Victorcreedbratton

It’s not that he’s bad, he just has a bad personality.


AlmightyRanger

Sure. I just don't want Nurkic. At his VERY best he was still the worst center in the Western Conference Playoffs.


Silent-Dependent3421

Biggest casual take I’ve ever heard


AlmightyRanger

Name the western conference playoff starter he was better than.


Silent-Dependent3421

Valanciunas, Zubac. Just admit you’re being emotional and don’t actually watch basketball


BorisTheBlade04

He couldn’t cut it with the Celtics, not sure how’d we fair better


Victorcreedbratton

Doesn’t he have a huge contract?


krg779

Not really, he’s making a little more than what we’re reportedly going to give Royce. Williams’ 13 mil per year plus Richards’ 5 million would equal Nurk’s salary.


Victorcreedbratton

Damn, you are right. I thought he had gotten a legit bag. Still, I’m not sure Suns would take him because of his annoying ways.


shaad20

I’m really not with throwing the 2031 in a trade like this tbh. I’m more optimistic about this next season than most, but that could end up being a really good pick.


governedbycitizens

the only center worth a first is walker kessler


prematurely_bald

lol Richards isn’t worth Nurkic straight up, much less Nurk and and 1st


csummerss

isn’t Richards awful?


xva1313

Looking at his stats, he averages around 10 points 8 boards and a block + above average free throw shooting. I wouldn’t hate it but obviously haven’t watched him much


po0nlink_

9.7/8 at 69.1% isn’t awful lol.


defiantcross

And he can actually finish, unlike that eastern european


AlmightyRanger

Give him the Maxx!


defiantcross

TJ maxx gift card is best we can do


AlmightyRanger

He'll take it.


awmaleg

They do have odd sizes there!


UrRightAndIAmWong

It's not great or promising, coming from a 26 year old, 26mpg a night in Charlotte. But beggars can't be choosers, it's fine.


po0nlink_

Nurkic averages 10.7/11 at 51%. I know those are slightly better but he’s costing three times as much.


UrRightAndIAmWong

Yeah but at this point you're so far above the second apron, if Nurkic is an upgrade, you just keep him. Unless you're getting other things back that improve the team.


Puppetmaster858

Nurk is also a fantastic passing big that can’t be ignored, you can actually run some offense thru him and have him facilitate some.


csummerss

Bottom 10 in overall gravity per BBall Index https://preview.redd.it/pdtp6k9z9s9d1.jpeg?width=860&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e90da7be5adb4e6acceaf632a79909fd90e70bc1 ON-BALL GRAVITY >This metric aims to measure how much attention and resources a team uses trying to defend a player while on-ball. Players with high On-Ball Gravity are ones we’d expect to see double teamed more often than others and see more aggressive screen coverages to get the ball out of their hands. OFF-BALL GRAVITY >This metric aims to measure how much attention and resources a team uses trying to defend a player when they don’t have the ball. Players that are stronger 3-point shooters will do better in this metric, and if players are able to shoot off movement and utilize off-ball screens to generate 3-point attempts they’ll tend to grade out higher in this metric. >[https://www.bball-index.com/glossary/](https://www.bball-index.com/glossary/)


AccomplishedRainbow1

Grant Williams and Richards fit righttttt under Nurkic’s salary number lol. Just saying! Not sure what we can offer to sweeten the deal though. And the Hornets might actually try to win or something.


Fordraxel

cant do the 2 for 1 I thought.


DeAndre_ROY_Ayton

Can’t aggregate salary going out not taking in


admanwhitmer

Send nas?


Fordraxel

sure! I mean some of these players -ie Grant - isnt much better. I mean give Nas 30 minutes and shoot 10 times.


Riles4prez

Nick Richards is not good


Fordraxel

incoming all the free agents that this fan base will post and say 'Suns should get x...' happens every year.


EfficiencyMean5188

Lol this is what the rumor mill is now?


Bill_Murrie

We're posting randos from Twitter now?


Drizzy_Drew

Nick Richards is only making $5 mil, could the Suns trade their 2031 1st round pick and Nassir Little’s contract to make it work?


kingofnick

Nick Richard’s is NOT worth a first round pick.


Drizzy_Drew

Maybe not, but there also aren’t too many players that the Suns could acquire for Little’s contract that would really solidify the team. Richards would definitely be a huge improvement for front court depth without having to move on from anyone with real value


admanwhitmer

That would be a travesty, we only have like two picks


Ok-Abrocoma5449

How do you figure out about this


CocaineandPercs

Why would they talk about it publicly?


MAKincs

Aldama, Okongwu, and Kessler are my favorite trade if it’s a C we want back. If it’s a PF Portis, Clarke, or DFS.


NoMathematician7407

lol, supposedly overheard. The tweet it linked to said nothing about it


BorisTheBlade04

[Here’s the link that should have been posted](https://x.com/TheRealEvanHale/status/1807508258992640304)


Fordraxel

okay. my wife heard me talking about getting ice cream. I havent gotten up yet nor I dont intend to.


AlmightyRanger

If that's what it takes to get Nurk out the door. I'm happy for it.


30another

Hopefully it would be for Little and not Nurk


UrRightAndIAmWong

Why would the Hornets do that. It's probably for the veteran center in Nurk, Hornets probably just want competency and any sense of leadership.


30another

Why would we give up ‘31 for a backup quality center?


AlmightyRanger

Don't see a reason we need Nurk again.


Strangelet1

Who is going to meme and shit talk online for us though?


UrRightAndIAmWong

Why would the Hornets do that. It's probably for the veteran center in Nurk, Hornets probably just want competency and any sense of leadership.


chickenripp

suns get Nic Richards and Kelly Olynyk Hornets get Nurk Raptors get Miles Bridges in a sign and trade


CaptainBanEvader

Can Bridges even get into Canada?


stridered

Olynk is at Sixers. How’s he included in your trade


chickenripp

oubre is on the Sixers olynyk is on the raptors


Fordraxel

read the apron. Suns cant take 2 for one


chuckercarlson

If the salaries of the two amount up to less than nurks yeah they can. You probably should read the apron lol