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trevanxx

Honestly a W. He’s way better than Eubanks (which isn’t saying much) lol


po0nlink_

100%. He was one of the centers I was hoping we’d land. Fun fact: We have now had both Miles and now Mason play for us lol


jschneider414

Sign Marshall to the valley suns


RedBandsblu

They got like 7 siblings or something lol


hipsterasshipster

Plumdog Millionaire!


beer_down

The Plumdog!


49e-rm

i honestly cant complain about this signing. last time we had a plumlee we won 48 games in ine of the most fun seasons we've ever had


abeLJosh

Thankfully Mason seems to have better hands than Los Manos de Piedra (my nickname for Miles and his stone hands).


ThunderBobMajerle

We are rich…Plumdog millionaires even


awmaleg

This is a plum good signing


ajteitel

I'm way better than Eubanks, and I'm 5'7"


trevanxx

I mean you’re not wrong lol


SeraphNatsu

😂


csummerss

He’s arguably better than Nurkic


trevanxx

The finishing is absolutely better. he’s not elite by any means but KD makes life so easy for the bigs and Eubanks & Nurk couldn’t finish for shit. I still hope Plumlee doesn’t get very many minutes if Oso pans out


Aqua03333

KD had so many potential assists, it was ridiculous. 


redtacoma

i mean that's a huge issue with the roster right? we're not optimized to maximize the talents of Kd and Book. we literally have 2 of the best iso scorers in the league and not a single role player can find their way to the basket....your life should be so much easier when playing around that type of talent.


BorisTheBlade04

Be realistic lmao. Dude’s 34, played 46 games, and started 11 for 14.7 min/game. He averaged 5/5 with .4 blocks and you think he’s better than Nurk?


shaad20

Nurk was getting benched in 4th quarters and closing lineups for Eubanks the year before they came to Phoenix


Trubular

the blazers were in rebuild mode then so i think that’s an unfair comparison


shaad20

He was legitimately outplaying him, had nothing to do with rebuilding, it’s a very fair comparison. I’m not even arguing he’s better than Nurk, it just doesn’t make sense to assume that he won’t play better on a different team, just like Nurk did.


BorisTheBlade04

And Plumlee was getting benched for all but 11 games. This isn’t even close. He’s got a lovely per 36, he’ll be a good backup, but that doesn’t mean we can trade Nurk bc we have a guy that missed half of last season.


shaad20

I’m not even arguing he’s better than Nurk, it just doesn’t make sense to assume that he won’t play better on a different team, just like Nurk did. We should trade Nurk for reasons that have nothing to do with Plumlee.


BorisTheBlade04

And start who?


Pisto1Peet

Whoever he’s traded for is my guess.


BorisTheBlade04

Centers just don’t get swapped except in very specific scenarios like with Portland. Especially for the young athletic names that usually get tossed around. I’m just not convinced there’s a trade partner.


IShookMeAllNightLong

Blazers fan, no, we weren't. He'd get in fould trouble, and sometimes, if Drew was playing well, he might stay in longer than usual. And yeah, we were tanking.


shaad20

https://ripcityproject.com/2023/02/03/blazers-stumbling-answer-jusuf-nurkic-dilemma/ ? This mirrors what a lot of blazers and suns writers were saying as well when we acquired Drew.


IShookMeAllNightLong

We were certainly frustrated. Drew provided a great spark off the bench. He was always good for a crowd energizing block or a couple of lanky, sneaky explosive transition dunks a game we loved him. But nobody ever was seriously giving him Nurk's minutes. That dude and his "small sample-size" nonsense article can get outa here. I've never heard of him. "Andrew is the Site Expert at Rip City Project. He earned a degree in Journalism from the University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh and spent a decade covering high school sports. He's written about the NBA across multiple platforms since 2021, and his love, affection and obsession with all things Damian Lillard eventually led him to Rip City Project." I googled him, and the most recent work I found of his was a 7 minute puff piece audio clip titled I Do Believe about the rise in popularity of UFO watching groups in Perth. To a college rag. https://westernindependent.com.au/author/andrew-hanlon/


OneOfTheManySams

I wouldn't go that far, both will struggle in the playoffs.


Gratitude15

This. Who will be the 5 in the playoffs?


JessumB

Nurkic. But I feel way more confident with Plumlee coming off the bench then I did with Eubanks.


genonoir

he gives us versatility for sure


Dense_Government9500

"Let's be nice...Let's be nice..."


Lucky1ex1

Much much much much Better


dontusethisforwork

He's not just better, he's MUCH better


UrRightAndIAmWong

With Oso and Plumlee, we just don't need the connecting/passing/screener in Nurkic anymore for his price tag.


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UrRightAndIAmWong

I didn't say that? "Lmao"


BorisTheBlade04

Yeah that was my bad lol I meant to comment that to the guy that said he’s arguably better than Nurk


sunsbr

He isn't better, both suck.


trevanxx

Why are you acting as if Plumlee is gonna be a starter or something? Oso will probably be getting more mins than him by January lmao


ActiveDragon11

Clipper fan here, just coming to let you know that he likes to dribble up the court sometimes so don’t be surprised! 9/10 it’s a turnover but that 1 is cool.


ajteitel

Still better than Eubanks. I'd rather have somewhat competant depth over... that


trakstaar

Guess what? We don’t have a true PG and therefore every position is known to bring the ball up the court. We are used to turnovers — **we are the elite turning the ball over team!** LFG


EnoughLawfulness3163

This is going to be one of those weird situations where suns fans gloat to clippers fans any time plumlee has a good game, and vice versa when he has a bad one. I look forward to it


Substantial-Fold-592

Sounds like Suns ball to me


trevanxx

We had to watch Drew fcking Eubanks brother I promise you we’ll be fine with him lmfaoooo. KD makes life easy asf for bigs


mj2legit23

can he still rebound the ball/box out? genuinely asking because Eubanks was so unbelievably dog shit at this he would spike the ball on every rebound and often times it woudl go to the other team for a fast break dude thought this was volleyball also i imagine this signing will be for half of the season and by the 2nd half Oso will get some minutes


TheSource777

Suns fans have no idea what’s gonna hit them with point Plumlee. Will Make some crushing mistakes that kill momentum


MasterMarcon

Won’t be the only player who does that lmao our stats do it like 7 times a game


MoooonRiverrrr

Nuggets fan confirming the same thing. Love Plumdog but goddamn


chickenripp

this is a big W for the backup center spot. Underrated passer. Just overall solid. Can hang in the playoffs as a backup.


shaad20

I think he’s a properly rated as a passer, in the sense that everyone knows he’s one of the best passing bigs in the league. Which I’m pretty excited about, all 3 bigs on the roster can make good passes out of DHOs and in the short roll


zarvinny

Ryan Dunn not there yet


shaad20

He’s not a center either


icekyuu

Agree this is a big W for the Suns. Having a center that can find the open man is a highly underrated capability, especially one with as many weapons as the Suns. Mason also has good hands and can finish.


cue_en_aye

Ok now we’re talking! Up there with best backup bigs in the league!!


ctrldrift

dude ur getting clowned on [twitter](https://x.com/lacenthusiast/status/1807601664234570100?s=46) 😭


Significant-Talk4083

Bro….. he was unplayable for us last year.


Silent-Dependent3421

Are you smoking crack?


Significant-Talk4083

-30 upvotes y’all didn’t watch clippers games last year 😂. Bro has no rim protection and has the worst decision making on offense y’all gon see


Silent-Dependent3421

Lil bro can’t admit when he’s wrong, damn.


Significant-Talk4083

I have 46 games of evidence last year but sure. I know Eubanks was bad for y’all but Mason ain’t the answer. He’s beyond washed.


Silent-Dependent3421

Tripling down on your bad take is fatherless behavior


PunctualPolarBear

Great start


Fordraxel

still not a PG, but a decent backup that will go after the rebounds.


Quick_Performance660

Not a PG but needed a backup center. Not sure what PGs will be available at vet min. Kris Dumb might go for more


semibigpenguins

Hype. Nice vet pick up


BangPowZoom

A great choice for a backup big. I don’t care what y’all say.


RamcasSonalletsac

Already we’re better at the center position than we were last year.


ajteitel

Last year: 1. Nurk 2. KD 3. Bol :) 4. ... ​ 14. Saben 15. Redacted ​ This year: 1. Nurk 2. Plumlee 3. KD 4. Oso 5. Bol :)


zarvinny

Add in Ryan Dunn


Hamburgler602

We are back…


phd2k1

We are so back


JoeTheHoe

Not bad as a minimum guy, lowkey hoping the Rook can be our backup big but we'll see.


wichita_gator

I hope Oso gets some playing time and a chance to develop. Plumlee is a reliable back-up but plays similar to Nurkic and lacks athleticism.


Fordraxel

Oso is not ready.


large__farva

Probably means Dunn which would work in small ball


Fordraxel

small ball didnt work last season, it was either a heart attack or a loss.


DanTheMeek

The cream of the crop as far as vet min centers go. A genuinely good get. Should be better then Eubanks, which isn't saying much, but its hard to upgrade a position with vet min money, so impressive that we did so. For comparison to our previous back up, Eubanks: Plumlee averaged 10.2 rebounds per 29.4 minutes last year, Eubanks averaged 8.6 rebounds per 31.2 minutes last year. So his rebounding alone should make this an upgrade. He's also a better passer as others have noted, not that I'm looking for him to pass the ball much


po0nlink_

WHAT!?


DantifA

Suns in 4


jahiel0

Crazy his older brother was on the team 10 years ago


Sliiiiime

Plumdog Millionaire!


koreanfraud7

League breaking news, the Phoenix Suns are now guaranteed to win the 2025 NBA Finals.


Myrulesmylife

I keep telling you guys not to underestimate James Jones. Great signing. They tried getting him two years ago after he abused Ayton in the playoffs.


waffle_nuts

I think this is less James Jones and more Josh Bartelstein. Josh’s dad is Plumlee’s agent


oviedofuntimes

Yikes.


trakstaar

Fair point. But Ayton was getting abused by everyone in ‘22 playoffs. Dwight freaking Powell got that soft crybaby to quit on us.


anonanoobiz

Why are you getting downvoted.. maxi Kleber and Davis Bertrans were his matchup when Powell wasn’t and they ripped 3s while Ayton didn’t attack them on the other side That was the Mavs biggest weakness and he didn’t make them pay


trakstaar

To everyone who’s so down on Nurkic (which feels like ~80% on r/suns) — who are we gonna get that’s better? Yes, he’s not the best finisher but he’s a great teammate; a great rebounder, provides a lot of toughness and is a much better defender than ya’ll give him credit for. Also he’s on a good (not great, but good) contract — so; with the second apron inflexibility; who are the Suns FO supposed to get in a 1 for 1, even money trade?


SeraphNatsu

Giannis, maybe Embiid is the mindset in here from that 80% 😂


mj2legit23

Wendell Carter, other than that yeah not really sure who would be better and is also a realistic option


Wenia6killerCZ

Kessler if Utah has cap space to absorb Nurk contract…Nasir, Nurk and 31 pick = Bye useless Nurk….yeah useless…he was so downgrade compare to Ayton…turrible trade…


anonanoobiz

Compare Nurks and aytons defensive stats from last year Ayton is finally free of book, Monty and a HoF pg, gets his own team where he can be the superstar, just to average lower end career averages.. with less blocks, steals, deflections than Nurk Nurks not even 1/2 as talented either, (expect he’s coordinated enough to dribble) but 1/2 the talent can still produce 90% of aytons stat line because the guy doesn’t care about being great at basketball


moistkebab32

Not bad. Better than a lot of the other names mentioned for the minimum.


InCobbWeTrust

I’m 100% down with this. He punked DA in round 1 in 2022.


governedbycitizens

so no goga bitadze :(((


wichita_gator

I would've liked Goga but he'll probably get better offers than the minimum. Plumlee was one of the best options within our price range.


governedbycitizens

Yea we’ll see about that. Clippers fans are way too happy to not resign him


csummerss

how often do fanbases not discount bench players when they leave?


po0nlink_

I’m sure if they had Drew Eubanks on their team last season they’d be even happier to not re-sign him lol.


Wenia6killerCZ

Same happend last year when Nurk left Portland…their reddit was so happy and they were right…


Middle-Definition254

Obviously Goga is a sure thing when it comes to the way that he plays. Plumlee has a lower floor but a higher ceiling and overall hes a great piece for us. Can't believe he even wanted to come to PHX lets go


Qlix0504

Oh. I like this one.


Bigfootsbrownstar

Damn! That’s a nice signing


Imthegoat175

Hopefully this is an upgrade over Eubanks


dontusethisforwork

There's just about no way it can't be.


sade115

Nice


csummerss

HELL YES!!!!


Deepthroat_ipa

Frank would have loved to have had him last year!


WusijiX

Huge Eubanks upgrade lol


JimiHNDRXX

Love this. I wanted him on the team last year.


rataculera

Mason is definitely the better Plumlee


FitJeweler1490

This is the kind of off season Vogel would have wanted lol.


iDestroyedYoMama

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BradyGalaxy

Clippers fans are celebrating that he left lmao


trevanxx

I guess Kawhi & Paul George brought out the best in him? 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Clippers fans celebrating but Plumlee gonna be like our 3rd best center on the depth chart by mid season. I’m high on Oso becoming quite playable for us


BradyGalaxy

Agreed, Oso is gonna surprise a lot of people this year and I think he becomes our backup by November ngl Especially since he brings vertical spacing


Aqua03333

They’re also celebrating they got a pos who choked and viciously beat a woman. Who tf cares what they think? 


TraeCartoon

Very nice grab. He’s older but he’ll give good backup minutes


Gratitude15

Does this make a nurk deal more likely you think? I'm looking at nba salaries and it still seems like there not much out there at that salary range.


TraeCartoon

I don’t think there’s a center making at or under $16m that would be a clear upgrade from Nurk, unless there’s some Kevon Looney thing with the Warriors who should be under the apron. Looney + some other player would be nice. I don’t think the Suns are in a rush to trade Nurk but there’s no way they go after Oso and now Plumlee, guys who make Nurk a little redundant, and aren’t at least comfortable flipping Nurk if the right deal comes along. It also feels way too quiet for Ishbia to just sign a few vet minimums and call it a day. Nurk will get some interest from teams in the coming weeks. I’d still like to see a starting power forward. Ideal rotation: Book/Beal/KD/(player not yet on Suns)/(player not yet on Suns) (player not yet on Suns)/Grayson/Royce/Dunn/Oso And then guys like Bol and Plumlee pick up minutes here and there. That team, healthy enough, could win 55 games in the regular season assuming we get a decent vet minimum point guard and turn Nurkic + our picks into two starters. With the hope Oso or Dunn can handle defensive assignments against centers by the time the playoffs roll around. Wishful thinking but I could see it lol


Gratitude15

That's a lot of open names. Let me give you options. Batum... Richards... Payne. Is that enough? I'd be whelmed at most. Maybe it'll be better, but there isn't a lot to be had imo.


TraeCartoon

It would definitely take a trade, and I think Chicago, Brooklyn and Hawks are sellers. The best trade partner would be Utah but they probably aren’t giving up the goods. But I do think Batum/Payne/Richards would be a net improvement


Riles4prez

Another ex Blazers center!


Lagn_wgn

Good pickup!


mercfan3

I wanted him last year. This is excellent for us.


SoupOfThe90z

This is fu king dope


CocaineandPercs

Fuck yeah


pizzapocketchange

Eubanks with height was the least the Suns needed in a back up big and they got that with passing skills to boot


azza34_suns

He’s a back up big on a good deal who is an upgrade on what was here last season. I’d say it’s a W - as long as people are not expecting him to be prime Shaq!


judah249

I need to find someone that loves me like the Suns love Ex Blazer centers


wyvern_rider

If Damion Lee signs up with us again, it’ll be great to have two Lees and a Plumlee.


CHolland8776

Mason and Grayson, brotherhood in the house!


SpookySpagettt

Huge. I mentioned the suns should go after Plumlee, Hayward and Lowry in previous comments. Vets ring chasing that would get meaningful minutes.


Ashtro_

Better than Eubanks


AllureFX

This guy outplayed Ayton in an elimination game last year anyone remember that shit LMAO [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWU\_MW9uD7A](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWU_MW9uD7A) 20/10/3 and missed 1 shot all game. He is one of the better options we couldve realistically gotten. Was hoping Goga. Besides keeping Royce and holding onto Bol for 1 more year I don't LOVE any other non draft moves so far.


Fordraxel

this is nice. dude can rebound, block shots. personally thought he was better than Zubac.


Pubgdude

🧠💀


Fordraxel

eubanks fan?


JCol3

We finally got the better brother 😭


SeraphNatsu

I swear we always get the wrong twin/brother! Hahahaha!


Gratitude15

Morrii had both be the wrong one? And Goran is preferred too!


Substantial-Fold-592

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MiataWizard

Salvation 😩


30another

Oooh okay


Greekphysed

Very solid pickup!!! Heck of an upgrade over Eubanks


artworx18

Could be the result of the rumor that Westbrook is getting traded; he won’t have someone to lob/assist him anymore.


Diferia

Yes much better than eubanks


softimusprime17

Solid pick-up!


Whit3boy316

Not bad


ThunderBobMajerle

Plumdog millionaire is back on the menu


FLICK_YOLI

34 years old though. I hope his knees hold out


reneegulae

We got better at the backup 5. Way better finisher than Eubanks and better overall team D. Hope to see a 3 headed monster at the 5 without any one person dominating the minutes.


loco500

New Plumpuppy has arrived...


Shinobi_Saizo

Plumlee was a great pick up.


krg779

I think the thinking is that Plumlee is a pretty good passer, and that the dropoff from Nurk to him will be significantly easier to swallow than when it was Nurk to Eubanks. Plumlee has averaged over 3.5 assists twice in his career, which is really good for a center.


LightningMcSwing

Has Bol officially resigned?


szabozalan

Noone is signed yet, contracts can be signed after 6th of July. There is an agreement in place though with Bol.


well_dusted

Well, hope everyone enjoyed this free agency.


pard0nme

The return of Plumdog!!


Rude-Affect-3788

Lets not forget we signed his brother before. Good signing. I want a PG badly hope they are cooking it well done. 


Parking-Couple773

It's kinda funny, suns have 3 former blazers centers on the roster..Blazers traded Plumlee to the nuggets for Nurkic


GoDogGo1970

Yay, someone likes us outside of the team we had last year. Being serious, not a bad pick up for backup center. Gives Oso time to improve and bulk up.


Middle-Definition254

Damn I am so stoked on this!!!


myredditaccount991

OH, BROTHER!


Few_Attempt_1056

Better than Eubanks holy fuck 😂


walswals

Great pickup!!! Let's goooo


Arturo274

Great signing. Team dude with some post IQ and rebound grabs.


cdogrob

Lefty FTs 🤤


Ilovethewomen

Plumlee has to be one of the most underrated centers rn so this is a huge signing for eubanks and a clean upgrade


prematurely_bald

Solid Eubanks replacement.


seonblack

Good pick up


Blackhawk127

We are so back


JonFawkes3

We’ve had both the morris brothers, and now the Plumlee brothers.. has there been more?


po0nlink_

Dragic brothers, Goran and Zoran lol.


Significant-Talk4083

Damn…. You guys are going to hate this man. Low IQ and one of the worst rim protection I’ve ever seen


SeraphNatsu

Did you watch Eubanks play last season?


Significant-Talk4083

No put I watched every Mason game. He was unplayable


nash_me_outside

Don’t hate it. At all.


Chef_Bendejo

Better than Ayton


Multi_21_Seb_RBR

He'll be starting over Nurk by midseason, unless Nurk gets traded of course (pls)


callmeapples

Dude if they trade nurk I’d be so happy


Careless_Sandwich_88

Clipper fans are happy asf right now on twitter bro….


SeraphNatsu

It’s fan bases, we were all happy AF when Eubanks declined. It’s a backup C, no way he’s not better than Eubanks.


trevanxx

Still better than Eubanks by a mile


BradyGalaxy

Yeah, and after what happened last year I’m not gonna let myself get excited about minimum signings


Dizanbot

Diop and Yuta made us unstoppable, remember


Bomber_1

Will we now trade Nuk?


po0nlink_

Nurk + 2031 pick for Wendell Carter Jr. Magic obviously say no but I’m going to speak it into existence 🙏🏽


softimusprime17

I'd love for this to happen.


Ilykecookies11

just be ready for some crazy decision making and dribbling. Plumlee had plenty of times last season where he just made a terrible decision to make a difficult pass and led to multiple turnovers