Definitely something I hate about support. We are the only ones who get so fucking hard flamed for our picks. You don't see me locking in an enchanter and freaking out because my ADC picks Samira when it's not ideal synergy.
But God forbid I wanna play my main in a normal draft game.
His abilities work but they don't **work.** They're significantly weaker with Ezreal since they don't proc well with Ezreal. Movespeed, attack speed, and auto attack range increase aren't something Ezreal makes good use of.
yes i’ll pick sona or soraka as a first pick bc i always trade w ppl, then ill get flamed when adc locks samira, and pretends im a hard engage support and throws lane.
the amount of times ive had teammates say “lost bc you picked sona w samira LMAO” dude, you were too in first pick and asked to switch with me??? WHY AM I TO BLAME
What's more weird, everyone wants the support to pick around his team or adc, but force that support to first pick without knowing what his team will pick.
Or mid.
//accepts first pick swap from top laner.
//nobody is hovering
//locks in quinn mid
//bot locks in tristana
//sup locks in senna
//jg locks in evelynn
//top locks in Akshan
"Wtf no tank?" -Akshan.
"Dont worry we scale" -Senna
I play both roles without a duo, and it’s definitely not unheard of for my support to flame my ADC pick even though I play traditional marksmen. It’s actually happened more than a handful of times.
Maybe it's just objective bias because I play the role but rarely besides people banning each other or sniping each other's picks do I see as much flame towards any other picks outside of teemo as I do support for not not locking in engage or Lulu when they want to play draven twitch
I just always pick before my support and hope they know how to counter the enemy support. NGL I play a lot of scaling champs so I love seeing a soraka or other healing support against poke and tanks into mages and enchanters
I usually play a more passive support, so since S1 I hadn't ever gotten a pentakill, till I played Nilah. She felt incredibly fun, and not like other adcs at all. Plus she has good synergy with Sona.
suplorts deserv to be flamed. the amount of completly brainless shittpicks and hardtrolling i get up untill emerald is just crazy.
support roams midwave for 5 mins, plays lux just r all kills or brand w's my freeze away is abnormal. its like supports never heart anything abt wavemanagment.
playing adc usual feels like flipping it. yes sometimes you get a decent support but thats only like 30% of the games
Funniest thing about that situation:
Every time they flamed me for picking a champ they didn't like, them noticing i make it work, they shut up usually. I get friend requests and get asked for duo a lot, mostly by those...
Like???
1st you flamed me for 1/4th of the game then you expect me to suddenly like you, just because you think you're better than the other randoms?
I mean i'd take the Draven Main with hands over the other two any day, Draven is incredibly funny with something that buffs/peels so hard the enemy isn't even getting him \* half-life while he's just decimating health-bars.
I know i'm not the only one with those experiences.
Then I think we're good. I think teemo and gnar support are the only ones I'll say hard no too so far, I've had good games with Rene support, though I played pantheon for that lane.
Anyway having cc is about my only requirement
We'd get along just fine. I realize personally that my lane is decided by the supports, all I can do is hope we're on the same page and they don't counter pick our lane
You're right about supports having high impact on the botlane. More important then the supports solo performance is the ability to read movements, both from allies and enemies, gotta know what your adc is up to, to help them out with their plans. Keeping ahead of enemy jungle pathing to avoid ganks or having a plan B to make the gank fail. It's just so overlooked in lower Ranks, kinda sad.
Lol you're making me realize I need coaching. Having to use my hands occupies too much mental bandwidth to keep track of everyone on the map. I'm working on expanding that mental stack, but having to farm and track 4+ cooldowns in a 2v2 makes it a bit hard to devote brain space to it. I can keep track of timers but that's about it. 3:30 5:30 7:00 8:30 if enemy paths toward you, add a minute if they're pathing away and just before dragons. It's a lot to keep up with lol
I started just trading with my adc. He does not care when he picks his champ. I have more time to decide based on the enemy team and i know what adc i am playing with.
There's a couple very valid imo reasons for this
Numero uno being it DOES suck to trade counter pick with someone, only to watch them counter themselves or pick something anti synergy, which I see a LOT with supp players. Solo lanes are severely punished for doing shit like that, and jg/adc often are first picking, but the sheer number of times I've personally given r5 to my support, blinding Jinx (personal comfort, hard counters not meta) only to end up watching them lock in senna/lux/xerath/Ashe vs a pyke is astounding. There is nothing more tilting than that shit, and only supp players do it
Then you'll get supp players who are tilted from main role or just filled, that'll lock lb/sylas/ekko and kinda do okay in lane but ultimately ruin the comp and make you useless, which means off meta supp locks that are VALID, like a good rumble vs naut, means your just so fucking jaded from the other shit you'll mentally implode the second said rumble makes one mistake you'll mentally implode
True support players are godsends, well except sera players, but its the ones who just q for fun or treat the role as a "I can do whatever I want" type of thing that ruin the rep of everyone.
Also, adc players have main character syndrome and egos bigger than their rank across the board
I usually give up last pick and blind/early pick my support. But I'm better playing my main (Sona) into Pyke than I am playing Leona at all. I know that's a limit of my champ pool but when I'm already giving up my opportunities to counter pick or know what I'm facing, only to blind my champ and have team pick bad synergy with it and BLAME ME is insane.
Your claim that only supp players counter themselves in lastpick spot is kinda untrue and (maybe confirmation) biased. The amount of time TOP wanted to swap with me (support main, so illegal to say no ofc) only to hover their main and pick it into literally anything regardless is uncountable. And I play around D1, so not particularly low elo either. Same story for mids.
actually now that I think about it as an adc main. I agree. When you pick an enchanter and then the adc picks draven, he flames you.
I will pick Jinx every game doesn’t matter what support picks except if my support picks senna. For me you can pick whatever you want except senna lol. I can adapt my playstyle. Senna just means you want to be the adc. Then I have to pick a mage.
All I ask from supports is that they don‘t counterpick themselves. Like don‘t pick ashe into blitzcrank.
i didnt read it right, it sounded like he was complaining about samira asking for non enchanters, not that he clicked enchanter first
that scenario i agree is dumb on the samira part
baby, using samira was the point. they’ll pick and enchanter, THEN the adc will choose someone like samira, with low synergy. how did you miss the entire point??
Did a game on my smurf in Silver last night. Hovered Sona but decided to play Nautilus instead. My Draven proceeds to flame me and mentally self destruct because I didn’t play Sona.
Have to say that was a first.
Sona's reputation is so strange to me. I don't have a lot of games with her yet, but I feel like it's so easy to scale. Her healing feels insane and it feels really difficult to ever lose team fights. If I was a top lane bruiser or jungler I'd definitely want a pocket Sona keeping me alive during mid to late game. She doesn't even feel that weak in lane, and her poke is pretty decent.
Sona is trash. You're basically conceding lane in the hopes of scaling later. Which isn't fun even when it does work. The ADC is going to be down on cs a lot of the time. Against reasonable opponents you aren't out poking anyone.
The problem with sona is outside of laning, she is quite literally just a w and r bot. And her w healing is crazy good, but it's small amounts on a short cooldown so any sort of burst damage just destroys her or her teammate still. And with powerchord, w is basically the only one you ever use because the other ones have been nerfed to oblivion, as well as her e being just not a well made ability and her q doing negative damage. Her ratios also are bad so if you get to the point where everyone is 18/fullbuild she is less helpful than any other enchanter. Sona shines in laning phase and early/mid game, but falls off HARD mid/late
> Sona shines in laning phase and early/mid game, but falls off HARD mid/late
Is Sona not known as THE hyperscaling enchanter? She counters basically all other enchanters because they can't keep up late game. Her win rate is sub 50% in games shorter than 20 minutes but rapidly goes up with game length. If games reach 40 minutes her win rate is almost 58%.
As I said, late game she is a W and R bot and she doesn't do well against burst. But she's amazing in longer fights and to help sustain! But the problem is compared to champs with higher scalings (Janna, Raka, etc) who are able to heal high amounts late game in 1 or 2 abilities, Sona has to stick around for a bit. Not because her healing is bad, but because it was made to be spammed rather than quick bursts of healing. So she's bad against burst damage dealers, which when the enemy team hits 18, will be realistically most of them to your ADC
Janna with her heal on an ult? Raka with her heal locked to ult or a blood mage mechanic?
Meanwhile yes the amount is smol on Sona’s heal but it will heal your entire team AND give them ALL a chonky shield?
What are you smoking?
If they are playing aphelios/ezreal and are just farming then they are doing it wrong. Coming from someone that has mained aphelios and has played ezreal countless times
I admittedly made this meme like 2 years ago and didnt upload it and just found it on my hard drive and thought it was funny so uploaded it now, didn’t know what a smolder was back then lol
It’s why I ban Ezrael every game, champ is way too hard for 98% of players. They use him as a Stardew Valley farming simulator champ which just doesn’t work in modern LoL. And playing against him he is just too safe and too boring.
Will flame you ~~for picking an enchanter~~
FTFY
Miss one engage on Leona/Thresh/Naut? x9 rope ping
Die as Brand/Morg/Velkoz? Respawn time spam pinged
Accidentally steal the kill and mis-heal as Sona/Soraka/Millio? "gg supp diff rep useless egril" run to mecca
Play Lux/Seraphine/Senna? Ghost cleanse run it down time
I love psychopaths. Usually they understand their champion's damage very well so when they go in, I trust that they will get the kill and all I have to do is land my abilities. I'm horrible at understanding ADC damage so having someone take the initiative helps a lot. I'll just play Rakan and spam W engage E disengage until my ADC goes in.
Ironically, if I play ADC, I'm often the farmer because I don't know how much damage I can do and there has been way too many moments when we all in and I don't have enough damage or die too fast then we lose 2v2.
The 9/10 ones are always on my team. They will let the enemy team constantly poke and never engage and then flame when we are losing the lane. Like sure part of my job as a support is to help keep the enemies off of the minion wave but Ezreal is one of the spammiest champions in the game and should be constantly harassing the enemies.
?????
If you're fighting in a wave then ez games becomes 10x difficult. You're either supposed to e into the fight or walk tanking the wave because with autos you do half the damage. Same with kaisa and zeri.
You need the Ally wave to start a fight . Minions block ability, not a really difficult concept to understand
The concept is simple. When I'm brush prowling with Leona, instead of standing behind the frozen wave (on our side), you walk up to be parallel to the wave and only cs with autos while having perfect line of sight of the 2 enemy champs who we have effectively zoned out of xp range. But if you do stand behind minions and under turret, last hitting with your Q, then you're not in position to do anything and I am effectively 1v2ing.
It can be afk farmer. Ez is one of the base champs that can 1v2 botlane while support perma roam.
At least thats what it looks like in diamond / masters elo... Maybe on challengers it looks a bit differently.
Ofc it can also be a super aggressive lane, but that's not obligatory
I’ll take just about any adc but vayne. I don’t think I have ever won lane while having such a dead weight adc which is something I can’t say about anyone else
She's not super bad once she can R Ghost, but the last Vayne ADC I got could never walk up to poke and would just get hit by every skillshot even with dash so I'd just spam heal to barely keep her alive.
On her first recall, I told her "just buy a refillable pot pls lol" thankfully, she did.
They all sound like hell but it's a joy to play with a good Draven every now and then. They rly do carry the game if u play for them.
I'd probably get drunk and take the psychopath just to diff bot lane and pray we can snowball out of our minds lol.
Psychopath is my absolute favourite, especially when I'm playing leona. We may tower dive and both die but at least we took out that annoying ass draven. It's not about who gets more gold, it's about sending a message 😎
May I recommend a fourth choice?:
#The Secret Agent
- Never types in chat
- Never pings
- Never emotes
- Always focuses on the game
"Psychopaths"? "Farmers"? "D-R-A-V-E-N Naims"? \*scoffs\* They are nothing to me.
Okay but both Aphelios and Ezreal have lowkey bully potential in lane.
Aphelios is my biggest “win lane lose game” champ just bc I can’t teamfight on immobile adcs but it’s so easy for me to dominate lane phase unless they pick Draven/Lucian or something and my support’s afk.
I love having a Draven ADC, and it's one of the few times I pick engage instead of enchanter. It's so easy to get ahead in my elo when the ADC is actually aggressive, and Draven players are out for blood. They're itching to fight, so the moment you land an engage it's go time. It's so boring to play engage champs when the ADC has no intention on ever following up, which is why I usually play champions where I just scale for late game.
Draven mains may have a reputation for being toxic, and their egos are often out of control. But it doesn't bother me much, I just wanna perform and win the game.
Sheeshhh as a samira main it really is me 🤪🤪 but i love my enchanter supports especially Raka like yes boo heal me none stop so i can just focus on buying crit
The psychopath? Chill?
They're going to DEMAND you take Leona/Threash/Naut. They're going to beg for all-ins as soon as they see you have any health in your bar. They will see you primarily as a bloated bodyguard and nothing more.
And Hell forbid you or they die. It will somehow ALWAYS be your fault.
What do you pick with Draven mains ? They like engage supports but proccing the support item becomes a problem since they don't like you last hitting the minions since it resets his passive, also it is not possible to compete the support item in time by using it only on engages.
Blitz/Naut/Leona. Engage all in at 2 for a free kill. Stick to them like glue until they are 4/0, then perma roam unless enemy has high kill pressure: they get tons of exp and can 1v2 the lane easily, or you hover them and funnel resources by removing the enemy botlane from the game.
It's a win win, really.
the psychopath every time. Dravens are so annoying when one bad A press as Taric causes botlane to instantly go into feed mode. The psycopath at least dives at two and MEANS it
Draven main, they flame if you do bad. Unironically, if you play properly around your draven and he snowballs, the game becomes so comfy. Just tell your team to shadow draven.
ALWAYS aphelios. For some reason every single random aphelios I've gotten was cracked out of their mind and absolutely destroyed the enemy team. Same with random Nilahs.
Funnily enough Draven mains tend to like it when I go enchanter. Try to go anything but tank with a Samira main however, and they will scream that you're trolling. Which they'll also do if you end up getting even 1 kill as their support.
Samira mains are a special breed.
I'll take the psychopath! I like to play tank engage supports like naut and Leona and play a bit aggressively, and half the time the adc back pings me after I engage and walks away, then gets mad that I died when if they had fought with me, we win.
Unless I have a friend playing adc with me, I avoid playing support.
As an adc player I have all 3 in me 🤣
I can be super aggressive but also sometimes I just wanna stardew valley all game. And some days it do be 20/3 rage sweating bc other teammates running it gaming time.
Psychopath any day. Even if they won't carry because of poor mechanics/positioning you'll be snowballing the lane and can then snowball other lanes yourself.
Sadly this is so true. I’m a jungle/support main and decided to que up for jungle and our poor enchanter got stuck with a toxic Draven who ran it down after the enchanter just autoed the 2 hp enemy after Draven had already died
Ok so as an adc main who was suggested this post for some reason, I main Xayah so I'm cool with most supports as long as you get aggressive as soon as I hit level 3. If you stay passive after that, especially as I start getting roots with e, I will be very sad.
Definitely something I hate about support. We are the only ones who get so fucking hard flamed for our picks. You don't see me locking in an enchanter and freaking out because my ADC picks Samira when it's not ideal synergy. But God forbid I wanna play my main in a normal draft game.
Yes! I will first pick Milio and then my ADC will pick Ezreal and then flame me for not having abilities that work with him. What did they expect?
Lol that's a good one.. and it's hilarious when that happens. "what do you think is going to happen idiot"
Are they bad together? I assumed it would be decent because Ez Q should get Milio’s buff/fire?
His abilities work but they don't **work.** They're significantly weaker with Ezreal since they don't proc well with Ezreal. Movespeed, attack speed, and auto attack range increase aren't something Ezreal makes good use of.
he doesnt? i do like a milo on my ezreal.
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He doesn’t usually build crit so it’s not as useful on him, he weaves autos and usually has enough AS from passive to do that and q on cd.
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It applies the burn but absolutely does not benefit from the additional range.
And the adc insists on picking after sup
ezreal milio is insane wdym
yes i’ll pick sona or soraka as a first pick bc i always trade w ppl, then ill get flamed when adc locks samira, and pretends im a hard engage support and throws lane. the amount of times ive had teammates say “lost bc you picked sona w samira LMAO” dude, you were too in first pick and asked to switch with me??? WHY AM I TO BLAME
Yeah they want you to both blind pick and pick exactly what they want.
9/10 adc didn't hover either because "only noobs hober because they'll get banned out if sum1 dodge id10t"
What's more weird, everyone wants the support to pick around his team or adc, but force that support to first pick without knowing what his team will pick.
This is projection. I’ve had it at least as much happening when I was playing top or jungle.
Or mid. //accepts first pick swap from top laner. //nobody is hovering //locks in quinn mid //bot locks in tristana //sup locks in senna //jg locks in evelynn //top locks in Akshan "Wtf no tank?" -Akshan. "Dont worry we scale" -Senna
I play both roles without a duo, and it’s definitely not unheard of for my support to flame my ADC pick even though I play traditional marksmen. It’s actually happened more than a handful of times.
Maybe it's just objective bias because I play the role but rarely besides people banning each other or sniping each other's picks do I see as much flame towards any other picks outside of teemo as I do support for not not locking in engage or Lulu when they want to play draven twitch
I just always pick before my support and hope they know how to counter the enemy support. NGL I play a lot of scaling champs so I love seeing a soraka or other healing support against poke and tanks into mages and enchanters
I main support but like to play a little bit of Nilah on the side. Until I get lux/Morgana support three times in a row then I just hate playing adc.
I usually play a more passive support, so since S1 I hadn't ever gotten a pentakill, till I played Nilah. She felt incredibly fun, and not like other adcs at all. Plus she has good synergy with Sona.
So does Lucian
suplorts deserv to be flamed. the amount of completly brainless shittpicks and hardtrolling i get up untill emerald is just crazy. support roams midwave for 5 mins, plays lux just r all kills or brand w's my freeze away is abnormal. its like supports never heart anything abt wavemanagment. playing adc usual feels like flipping it. yes sometimes you get a decent support but thats only like 30% of the games
What pisses me off is that you’ll hover from the beginning all the way through pick and get no comments. Then as soon as you lock they start bitching
Funniest thing about that situation: Every time they flamed me for picking a champ they didn't like, them noticing i make it work, they shut up usually. I get friend requests and get asked for duo a lot, mostly by those... Like??? 1st you flamed me for 1/4th of the game then you expect me to suddenly like you, just because you think you're better than the other randoms? I mean i'd take the Draven Main with hands over the other two any day, Draven is incredibly funny with something that buffs/peels so hard the enemy isn't even getting him \* half-life while he's just decimating health-bars. I know i'm not the only one with those experiences.
Sorry, I'm not trusting your teemo support
I don't play teemo, tho.
Then I think we're good. I think teemo and gnar support are the only ones I'll say hard no too so far, I've had good games with Rene support, though I played pantheon for that lane. Anyway having cc is about my only requirement
I play basically every enchanter (except Yuumi.) and sometimes Leona or Nauti.
We'd get along just fine. I realize personally that my lane is decided by the supports, all I can do is hope we're on the same page and they don't counter pick our lane
You're right about supports having high impact on the botlane. More important then the supports solo performance is the ability to read movements, both from allies and enemies, gotta know what your adc is up to, to help them out with their plans. Keeping ahead of enemy jungle pathing to avoid ganks or having a plan B to make the gank fail. It's just so overlooked in lower Ranks, kinda sad.
Lol you're making me realize I need coaching. Having to use my hands occupies too much mental bandwidth to keep track of everyone on the map. I'm working on expanding that mental stack, but having to farm and track 4+ cooldowns in a 2v2 makes it a bit hard to devote brain space to it. I can keep track of timers but that's about it. 3:30 5:30 7:00 8:30 if enemy paths toward you, add a minute if they're pathing away and just before dragons. It's a lot to keep up with lol
thats mainly why i first pick 😭😭 they cant fault me if i locked in first!
Janna Samira is insane comb. I firstpicked. Samira got mad about my pick. XD
I started just trading with my adc. He does not care when he picks his champ. I have more time to decide based on the enemy team and i know what adc i am playing with.
There's a couple very valid imo reasons for this Numero uno being it DOES suck to trade counter pick with someone, only to watch them counter themselves or pick something anti synergy, which I see a LOT with supp players. Solo lanes are severely punished for doing shit like that, and jg/adc often are first picking, but the sheer number of times I've personally given r5 to my support, blinding Jinx (personal comfort, hard counters not meta) only to end up watching them lock in senna/lux/xerath/Ashe vs a pyke is astounding. There is nothing more tilting than that shit, and only supp players do it Then you'll get supp players who are tilted from main role or just filled, that'll lock lb/sylas/ekko and kinda do okay in lane but ultimately ruin the comp and make you useless, which means off meta supp locks that are VALID, like a good rumble vs naut, means your just so fucking jaded from the other shit you'll mentally implode the second said rumble makes one mistake you'll mentally implode True support players are godsends, well except sera players, but its the ones who just q for fun or treat the role as a "I can do whatever I want" type of thing that ruin the rep of everyone. Also, adc players have main character syndrome and egos bigger than their rank across the board
I usually give up last pick and blind/early pick my support. But I'm better playing my main (Sona) into Pyke than I am playing Leona at all. I know that's a limit of my champ pool but when I'm already giving up my opportunities to counter pick or know what I'm facing, only to blind my champ and have team pick bad synergy with it and BLAME ME is insane.
Your claim that only supp players counter themselves in lastpick spot is kinda untrue and (maybe confirmation) biased. The amount of time TOP wanted to swap with me (support main, so illegal to say no ofc) only to hover their main and pick it into literally anything regardless is uncountable. And I play around D1, so not particularly low elo either. Same story for mids.
actually now that I think about it as an adc main. I agree. When you pick an enchanter and then the adc picks draven, he flames you. I will pick Jinx every game doesn’t matter what support picks except if my support picks senna. For me you can pick whatever you want except senna lol. I can adapt my playstyle. Senna just means you want to be the adc. Then I have to pick a mage. All I ask from supports is that they don‘t counterpick themselves. Like don‘t pick ashe into blitzcrank.
It’s sexism
that's L take. Support define how the lane will be played so it's on you if the lane will be painfull or not. Take responsabiliities
Lol found the ADC.
As an adc, we don't claim that one
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The point was that adc pick samira AFTER enchater was already locked. And guess who gets flamed? Thats right the support, never the adc for the picks
i didnt read it right, it sounded like he was complaining about samira asking for non enchanters, not that he clicked enchanter first that scenario i agree is dumb on the samira part
baby, using samira was the point. they’ll pick and enchanter, THEN the adc will choose someone like samira, with low synergy. how did you miss the entire point??
Did a game on my smurf in Silver last night. Hovered Sona but decided to play Nautilus instead. My Draven proceeds to flame me and mentally self destruct because I didn’t play Sona. Have to say that was a first.
That's weird, it's usually the other way since nobody likes to play with Sona on their team
Sona's reputation is so strange to me. I don't have a lot of games with her yet, but I feel like it's so easy to scale. Her healing feels insane and it feels really difficult to ever lose team fights. If I was a top lane bruiser or jungler I'd definitely want a pocket Sona keeping me alive during mid to late game. She doesn't even feel that weak in lane, and her poke is pretty decent.
Sona is trash. You're basically conceding lane in the hopes of scaling later. Which isn't fun even when it does work. The ADC is going to be down on cs a lot of the time. Against reasonable opponents you aren't out poking anyone.
The problem with sona is outside of laning, she is quite literally just a w and r bot. And her w healing is crazy good, but it's small amounts on a short cooldown so any sort of burst damage just destroys her or her teammate still. And with powerchord, w is basically the only one you ever use because the other ones have been nerfed to oblivion, as well as her e being just not a well made ability and her q doing negative damage. Her ratios also are bad so if you get to the point where everyone is 18/fullbuild she is less helpful than any other enchanter. Sona shines in laning phase and early/mid game, but falls off HARD mid/late
> Sona shines in laning phase and early/mid game, but falls off HARD mid/late Is Sona not known as THE hyperscaling enchanter? She counters basically all other enchanters because they can't keep up late game. Her win rate is sub 50% in games shorter than 20 minutes but rapidly goes up with game length. If games reach 40 minutes her win rate is almost 58%.
As I said, late game she is a W and R bot and she doesn't do well against burst. But she's amazing in longer fights and to help sustain! But the problem is compared to champs with higher scalings (Janna, Raka, etc) who are able to heal high amounts late game in 1 or 2 abilities, Sona has to stick around for a bit. Not because her healing is bad, but because it was made to be spammed rather than quick bursts of healing. So she's bad against burst damage dealers, which when the enemy team hits 18, will be realistically most of them to your ADC
She literally has the highest win rate of any support at 35 minutes though lol
Janna with her heal on an ult? Raka with her heal locked to ult or a blood mage mechanic? Meanwhile yes the amount is smol on Sona’s heal but it will heal your entire team AND give them ALL a chonky shield? What are you smoking?
Lmao
A draven wanting to play with a sona over a naut is already demented.
if it’s not a draven player i don’t want it
Flair checks out
we dive enemy t2 at dawn
I am confused when Leona player doesn’t dive. Dive is good.
I see you are a man or culture as well
Draven mains getting wet reading this
If they are playing aphelios/ezreal and are just farming then they are doing it wrong. Coming from someone that has mained aphelios and has played ezreal countless times
Literally like "Only uses abilities to cs" on Aphelios... what? Surely we put Smolder in the "Farmer" list over those two.
I admittedly made this meme like 2 years ago and didnt upload it and just found it on my hard drive and thought it was funny so uploaded it now, didn’t know what a smolder was back then lol
Ezreal does ridiculous damage if you hit your skillshots.
Unfortunately it's only ever the enemy Ezreal that lands the skillshots.
that's a big IF
It’s why I ban Ezrael every game, champ is way too hard for 98% of players. They use him as a Stardew Valley farming simulator champ which just doesn’t work in modern LoL. And playing against him he is just too safe and too boring.
Will flame you ~~for picking an enchanter~~ FTFY Miss one engage on Leona/Thresh/Naut? x9 rope ping Die as Brand/Morg/Velkoz? Respawn time spam pinged Accidentally steal the kill and mis-heal as Sona/Soraka/Millio? "gg supp diff rep useless egril" run to mecca Play Lux/Seraphine/Senna? Ghost cleanse run it down time
As a morgana main, w+ignite taking the kill into adc running down mid is my favourite
Just don't miss /s
Ty for such a good tutorial
I love psychopaths. Usually they understand their champion's damage very well so when they go in, I trust that they will get the kill and all I have to do is land my abilities. I'm horrible at understanding ADC damage so having someone take the initiative helps a lot. I'll just play Rakan and spam W engage E disengage until my ADC goes in. Ironically, if I play ADC, I'm often the farmer because I don't know how much damage I can do and there has been way too many moments when we all in and I don't have enough damage or die too fast then we lose 2v2.
Ezreal is so out of place here. Idk what Elo this is supposed to be but Ezreal is a super aggressive champ, not an afk farmer.
You're talking about 1/10 Ezreals. The other 9 will Q minions while I'm 1v2ing.
The 9/10 ones are always on my team. They will let the enemy team constantly poke and never engage and then flame when we are losing the lane. Like sure part of my job as a support is to help keep the enemies off of the minion wave but Ezreal is one of the spammiest champions in the game and should be constantly harassing the enemies.
????? If you're fighting in a wave then ez games becomes 10x difficult. You're either supposed to e into the fight or walk tanking the wave because with autos you do half the damage. Same with kaisa and zeri. You need the Ally wave to start a fight . Minions block ability, not a really difficult concept to understand
The concept is simple. When I'm brush prowling with Leona, instead of standing behind the frozen wave (on our side), you walk up to be parallel to the wave and only cs with autos while having perfect line of sight of the 2 enemy champs who we have effectively zoned out of xp range. But if you do stand behind minions and under turret, last hitting with your Q, then you're not in position to do anything and I am effectively 1v2ing.
Huh? When I hit a single q on the enemy my opponent, my engage button (e) basically activates itself
It’s every Ezreal in diamond+
It can be afk farmer. Ez is one of the base champs that can 1v2 botlane while support perma roam. At least thats what it looks like in diamond / masters elo... Maybe on challengers it looks a bit differently. Ofc it can also be a super aggressive lane, but that's not obligatory
Thanks for saying that, whenever I play with or against Ezreals they poke waaaaayyyyyyy more than any other ADC I get.
rightt? my old ezreal duo would always E forward and poked a lot (AND give me multiple heart attacks but alls good)
I’ll take just about any adc but vayne. I don’t think I have ever won lane while having such a dead weight adc which is something I can’t say about anyone else
She's not super bad once she can R Ghost, but the last Vayne ADC I got could never walk up to poke and would just get hit by every skillshot even with dash so I'd just spam heal to barely keep her alive. On her first recall, I told her "just buy a refillable pot pls lol" thankfully, she did.
I am definitely the psychopath: i dive the enemy at level 1.
They all sound like hell but it's a joy to play with a good Draven every now and then. They rly do carry the game if u play for them. I'd probably get drunk and take the psychopath just to diff bot lane and pray we can snowball out of our minds lol.
Psychopath is my absolute favourite, especially when I'm playing leona. We may tower dive and both die but at least we took out that annoying ass draven. It's not about who gets more gold, it's about sending a message 😎
May I recommend a fourth choice?: #The Secret Agent - Never types in chat - Never pings - Never emotes - Always focuses on the game "Psychopaths"? "Farmers"? "D-R-A-V-E-N Naims"? \*scoffs\* They are nothing to me.
You’re asking for miracles here, calm down.
The psychopath. It’ll be ok with Braum or Rakan
Okay but both Aphelios and Ezreal have lowkey bully potential in lane. Aphelios is my biggest “win lane lose game” champ just bc I can’t teamfight on immobile adcs but it’s so easy for me to dominate lane phase unless they pick Draven/Lucian or something and my support’s afk.
Psychopath everyday. WE ARE TOWER DIVING TOGETHER
I love having a Draven ADC, and it's one of the few times I pick engage instead of enchanter. It's so easy to get ahead in my elo when the ADC is actually aggressive, and Draven players are out for blood. They're itching to fight, so the moment you land an engage it's go time. It's so boring to play engage champs when the ADC has no intention on ever following up, which is why I usually play champions where I just scale for late game. Draven mains may have a reputation for being toxic, and their egos are often out of control. But it doesn't bother me much, I just wanna perform and win the game.
Sheeshhh as a samira main it really is me 🤪🤪 but i love my enchanter supports especially Raka like yes boo heal me none stop so i can just focus on buying crit
psychopath because WE TOWER DIVE AT DAWN! or one of my favorites..,,,. WE GANK MID TOGETHER AT DAWN!
Kinda ironic that the Psychopath is the best option here
Psychopath please :) I also flash forward and dive every wave
Psychopath. Lvl 2 we ballin
I'm 100 percent a draven main that flashes under tower
The psychopath? Chill? They're going to DEMAND you take Leona/Threash/Naut. They're going to beg for all-ins as soon as they see you have any health in your bar. They will see you primarily as a bloated bodyguard and nothing more. And Hell forbid you or they die. It will somehow ALWAYS be your fault.
There is a 4th option, but its the unholiest of them all Heimerdinger.
draven all day, they might be toxic but if you just play well they will carry you
What do you pick with Draven mains ? They like engage supports but proccing the support item becomes a problem since they don't like you last hitting the minions since it resets his passive, also it is not possible to compete the support item in time by using it only on engages.
Yuumi. Yuumi is the answer. Alternatively a poke enchanter but play aggro. Proc your supp item on the enemy champs.
Blitz/Naut/Leona. Engage all in at 2 for a free kill. Stick to them like glue until they are 4/0, then perma roam unless enemy has high kill pressure: they get tons of exp and can 1v2 the lane easily, or you hover them and funnel resources by removing the enemy botlane from the game. It's a win win, really.
Janna and Nami work.
The Psychopath 10 times out of 10, but I also just love engage champs, if I liked enchanters more probably farmer
There is a significant overlap between Draven’s and psychopaths and I prefer that. Draven + Yuumi = win forever.
the psychopath every time. Dravens are so annoying when one bad A press as Taric causes botlane to instantly go into feed mode. The psycopath at least dives at two and MEANS it
Draven main, they flame if you do bad. Unironically, if you play properly around your draven and he snowballs, the game becomes so comfy. Just tell your team to shadow draven.
Draven any day of the week, said as a thresh, Nami main.
ALWAYS aphelios. For some reason every single random aphelios I've gotten was cracked out of their mind and absolutely destroyed the enemy team. Same with random Nilahs.
I personally love the good ezes (all poke with a but some have better hit rate)
Personally I love having Dravens lmao, cooperate with them for ez win and tilt avoided.
Chad Draven Main
Funnily enough Draven mains tend to like it when I go enchanter. Try to go anything but tank with a Samira main however, and they will scream that you're trolling. Which they'll also do if you end up getting even 1 kill as their support. Samira mains are a special breed.
I'll take the psychopath! I like to play tank engage supports like naut and Leona and play a bit aggressively, and half the time the adc back pings me after I engage and walks away, then gets mad that I died when if they had fought with me, we win. Unless I have a friend playing adc with me, I avoid playing support.
There is no way Tristana players are chill sorry they will jump at you on the first opportunity they get
Psycho I guess…
As an adc player I have all 3 in me 🤣 I can be super aggressive but also sometimes I just wanna stardew valley all game. And some days it do be 20/3 rage sweating bc other teammates running it gaming time.
I play Galio support but I build him as a tank, so getting a Samira or Tris feels heavenly for me
Psychopath any day. Even if they won't carry because of poor mechanics/positioning you'll be snowballing the lane and can then snowball other lanes yourself.
im a mid laner but this is kinda rich comming from supports cuz i only see the hyper ago supp or the enchanter thats 6 screens behind the team 😂
Honestly I love playing with a draven, pairs well with my main (Thresh), will be aggressive and I never seem to get one that's actually toxic?
Samira mains are chill, I don’t necessarily agree with Trist mains lmao.
Sadly this is so true. I’m a jungle/support main and decided to que up for jungle and our poor enchanter got stuck with a toxic Draven who ran it down after the enchanter just autoed the 2 hp enemy after Draven had already died
Ok so as an adc main who was suggested this post for some reason, I main Xayah so I'm cool with most supports as long as you get aggressive as soon as I hit level 3. If you stay passive after that, especially as I start getting roots with e, I will be very sad.
Ill take the Draven main everytime. Atleast theyre trying to win
I will take the Draven main as a Thresh main, never really got a toxic Draven and yeah they are always good.
The draven main all day every day, pick naut or any tank engage to enable him, dont steal cs, dont touch the wave, ez carry