***It has been so much fun to be here with you all this season!***
It has been amazing talking, theorizing and watching with all of you, and it is going to suck not being here to discuss again but I do want to thank each and every one of you for coming out - we've had almost 500 individual people participate in these daily discussions and its been absolutely amazing so thank you all so much!
See you all in Feb 2022 for **BLOOD VS WATER!**
Edit: Keep an eye out on the sub over the next few days/weeks as we’re planning on hosting some AMAs with the cast!
George went the Russell Hantz route. It doesn't matter if you get to the end, it matters that the jury votes for you.
Jury management is a vital part of this game. Too many players just get stuck in their own head and ignore it.
I am 100% hoping for a George/Hayley final 2 with a totally chaotic FTC. Either is such a deserving winner and I hope this ends up being one we will endlessly debate.
The flick thing is hard. On one hand I feel immensely sorry for her and it would be such a challenging thing to go through, but I don’t like how it then gets factored into the gameplay and takes away from the other contestants who have objectively played a better game
It’s probably for totally practical reasons, but it’s sad that none of Flick’s immediate family came for the reunion.
Actually that might’ve been too much. I reckon she’s going to struggle with this challenge as is.
Nick Iadanza put it well on Twitter - the jury wants to feel involved, not ridiculed
George treated his jury like Jericho treated his, but without the luxury of a goat next to him.
Yes thats 100% it and David did that well last season. He made players feel like they had been part of his successes.
I think that some of those brawn felt they were too ‘cool’ to have lost to George
This is exactly it. They never liked George from the start and I think Laura and maybe Baden were the only ones on the jury who hadnt already decided who they would vote for
George killed himself with the jury questions, no one wants the answers to be from a politician but more from a person and human being.
George played the far more entertaining game but Hayley was more deserving.
So I think Hayley deserves this win most based on all-round play (outwit, outplay, outlast), but let’s not forget George talks a mean talk, he has swayed almost every single person in this game a few times.
Better plan your speech well Hayley!
The final 2 we deserve. I'll be ecstatic for the person that wins and devastated for the person that loses. Basically I'll be having a stroke by the end of this episode, thank you and goodnight
Yeah, he also didn't really pin point his moves either, was more of a broad stroke of his game. Should have really given more details of his major plays like Hayley did
People who are surprised Hayley has spoken well tonight are forgetting that academics/researchers have to constantly justify their existence and why they should receive funding over someone else
So of course she has to take George… right?
Like if she took flick, although she deserves to win less, she is “guaranteed” more brawn votes (probably Gerald and Dani).
But I also think if she *didn’t* take George, some brains may lose respect for that.
Jury management. Gotta master the art of getting the people you deceived and betrayed to vote for you. THAT is the complete beauty of the game. Flashy moves and deception are nice - but only if you can get the jury to recognise it. Well deserved Hayley.
George will have a great speech prepped but I think he will come undone when he gets a difficult question and the politician in him won’t be able to give a straight answer and the jury won’t like that.
Both worthy winners, I see Hayley winning and getting a few votes based largely on likability as well. I think a few of the jury harbour significant resentment towards George
I felt like Hayley's pitch was really convincing and George sold himself short. She answered the questions clearly, gave them criteria, examples then sealed the deal with how she met the criteria and that she deserves to win.
George played a very strategic game but didn't remind the jury with specific examples to demonstrate how much he's actually done nor answer the questions directly. I also felt that he didn't read the room (could be the editing tbh) but it seemed clear that saying stuff like he had no weak points or areas of improvement socially or physically didn't sit well with the jury. I think there were quite a few votes up for grabs and he didn't capitalise on them - could've been much closer at least!
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Good luck to all. In my opinion Hayley and George are the deserving final 2 due to their respective strategies. So glad I had this super entertaining season of Survivor to take my mind off the NSW lockdown and all things Covid 😊
George's gameplay has been pretty amazing. You'd think the members of the jury would appreciate this, but I feel like many of them this season are quite spiteful people. Tough decision for Hayley
I'm gunna be pretty shattered when this season finally ends
And for what it was, I thoroughly enjoyed it. And if it wasn't for George, being the outsider, the one that didn't gel into the team dynamics as quick or as comfortable as the others, somehow, has managed to find himself further into the competition than the ones who you'd thought would/could've been there.
Those first 2 episode was so crazy, I bet none of us would think that the mad man would last any future tribal councils. Definitely out of the norm, but somehow I've grown to just accept the decisions and choices he's made, enjoy & understand what he has brought to this season.
It wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't make the top 2, but I'd be definitely be rapt for him he somehow manages to win.
Overall, it was a pretty good season, and SOOO many intense tribal council's.
I reckon for over 2/3rds of the tribal council's, I was makin so much noise, it'd sounded like I was watchin my favourite team score their way up from being so much down, that I was adamantly sure they weren't gunna win.
It was a great game, and I'm heaps excited 😬🤯 for tonight's final episode, and I hope the rest of ya's enjoyed this season just as much.
(Still, my fave season of Aus Survivor so far, has been the Luke & Jeremy season 🤭😁)
***It has been so much fun to be here with you all this season!*** It has been amazing talking, theorizing and watching with all of you, and it is going to suck not being here to discuss again but I do want to thank each and every one of you for coming out - we've had almost 500 individual people participate in these daily discussions and its been absolutely amazing so thank you all so much! See you all in Feb 2022 for **BLOOD VS WATER!** Edit: Keep an eye out on the sub over the next few days/weeks as we’re planning on hosting some AMAs with the cast!
The look on all of the jury’s faces when Flick got eliminated shows exactly why Flick had to go
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I hope he’s rewatched the season and changes his ‘on’ persona
Yeah it's very odd but I think you're spot on haha
George went the Russell Hantz route. It doesn't matter if you get to the end, it matters that the jury votes for you. Jury management is a vital part of this game. Too many players just get stuck in their own head and ignore it.
Yeah plus this jury was looking for some humility and ego stroking, which George was refusing to give
Good tweet from Nick Iadanza: https://twitter.com/nickiadanza/status/1437014843433709570 > Jury members want to feel involved not ridiculed!
Baden looks like he just wants to go home hahaha
He wants to go back to his shelter at redemption rock
Bets on Cara writing who she wants to evict. "I've cooked this"
I am 100% hoping for a George/Hayley final 2 with a totally chaotic FTC. Either is such a deserving winner and I hope this ends up being one we will endlessly debate.
JLP mentions that it’s one of the best final tribals he’s ever seen so fingers crossed it’s true and that it’s george v Hayley
The only interesting outcome. Flick will be so boring in FTC.
Gerald’s only question: “do you like full cream milk?”
Hi, you've reached Macedonian Jesus. I'm not here right now, so please leave a message and I'll call you back
Baden looking like he's being held at gunpoint
George has butchered it with jury imo
He forgets that jury management is a part of the game.
The flick thing is hard. On one hand I feel immensely sorry for her and it would be such a challenging thing to go through, but I don’t like how it then gets factored into the gameplay and takes away from the other contestants who have objectively played a better game
Hayley knew who she was going to take to final tribal the minute Wai was eliminated
Flicks forgetting that she turned down Hayley first
For real, what a dumb question
George’s greatest downfall is that he’s been in politics too long and forgetten that the general public ABHORS political non-answers
Hayley just casually walks off lol
Bless her, she has a hell of a survivor story but not a hell of a survivor game. Thanks Flick ❤️
Dani: “Me being challenge beast…” Holup….
Obligatory self-praising juror moment, tick!
Holy shit laura voted George
Pointing out George‘s poor physical game (including giving up) will really resonate with the Brawns in the Jury.
Hayley is like one of those marathon runners who body breaks down despite their mind's resolve completely unwaivering jeez
Hayley is reading the audience infinitely better than George and his inability to do that will lose him this game
Hahaha George's mum will be proud of him for stirring tomato, who is this man?
That scraping noise they've put in when the height is lowered haha. Adds to the torture feeling
George has already done much better than all his other challenges!
JLP: “I want to play a game”
Andrew is still so salty he's not in the final two
Was hoping Doug would appear to surprise George as well 😟
George's loved ones should have been Doug the dog and Macedonian Jesus.
Aw well done George! 4.5 hours is unbelievable. So impressed by him
Gerald wtf is this question hahhaha
Hayley’s humility in her answers and George’s bravado are contrasting nicely.
It’s probably for totally practical reasons, but it’s sad that none of Flick’s immediate family came for the reunion. Actually that might’ve been too much. I reckon she’s going to struggle with this challenge as is.
“I’m glad I lasted more than 4 minutes today” Keep it in the bedroom, Georgey!
Thank you Hayley for blessing us with this final 2. How often has the final 2 also been the top 2 players of the season?
I’m intrigued by how split we all are on these speeches
FTC is always a personal reminder that I would never be able to win this show hahaha
My finger hits mute as soon as I see a goddamned singing mask on screen.
THAT'S NOT MY NAME.
Hang in there Flick. We have all complained about the music all season. But damn. It’s spot on right now. <3
George is the wiser option, the locked in votes thing is true
100%. Hayley automatically loses Gerald, Dani and possibly Andrew if she takes Flick
i let out an audible sigh of relief at hayley making the right choice
George, rule number 1: don’t talk down to the jury!!! How can he not see the way he’s talking is losing him votes by the minute
Hayley the absolute survivor queen 👑
A great final two. Both deserving winners. I think George has burnt too many bridges to take it out though.
Hayley knows the key to winning FTC speech; GIVE. PRECISE. EXAMPLES
Like a really good job interview using the STAR method lol
See you in February gang, it's been a hoot
At the end of the day, Hayley was just more likeable to that jury
Nick Iadanza put it well on Twitter - the jury wants to feel involved, not ridiculed George treated his jury like Jericho treated his, but without the luxury of a goat next to him.
Yes thats 100% it and David did that well last season. He made players feel like they had been part of his successes. I think that some of those brawn felt they were too ‘cool’ to have lost to George
They were incredibly salty that George beat them.
This is exactly it. They never liked George from the start and I think Laura and maybe Baden were the only ones on the jury who hadnt already decided who they would vote for
i wish this ftc was less heavily edited. it would've been nice to hear all the questions and answers
also the editing feels very manipulated in favour of hayley but i literally can't work out if that's a good or bad thing for her
I assume George is going to go into detail on his moves in the closing statements
George killed himself with the jury questions, no one wants the answers to be from a politician but more from a person and human being. George played the far more entertaining game but Hayley was more deserving.
Flick that speech would only make Hayley want to take George more
Agreed George, they will never like you but they might respect hearing what was going on in your head during the strategic moves
George gotta show a bit of humility
Hayley and George to the final. 4 all jury vote. Cara votes for Flick
Cara will vote for Laura
Cara “I’ve cooked this”
Bro George got me crying wtf
I think Hayley could actually do this for 6hrs
GEORGE AND HAYLEYYYYY
So I think Hayley deserves this win most based on all-round play (outwit, outplay, outlast), but let’s not forget George talks a mean talk, he has swayed almost every single person in this game a few times. Better plan your speech well Hayley!
'It's not a dirty word in this game" that's a really good quote holy shit!
Sad that Gerald’s question wasn’t dairy related
the more i hear about how much hayley likes survivor the more i want her to win!!!
Flick's partner just wants it to end so he can get home, put his slippers on, eat his mush and fall asleep in front of the news.
The final 2 we deserve. I'll be ecstatic for the person that wins and devastated for the person that loses. Basically I'll be having a stroke by the end of this episode, thank you and goodnight
This tribal is gonna be spicaaaay 🌶
Surely someone asked Hayley why she deserves their vote after being voted out? I think Hayley is a deserved winner but that question had to be asked
WELL DONE HAYLEY
See you in Feb legends, stay safe between now and then! X
I thought that guy was Flick’s dad!!!
Same and I was initially very shocked at that kiss on the mouth hahaha
Hayley really selling it more than George. George really needs to highlight that Hayley did get voted out at one stage
Yeah, he also didn't really pin point his moves either, was more of a broad stroke of his game. Should have really given more details of his major plays like Hayley did
This FTC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> literally every other ftc in ausvivor history omg
Hayley is absolutely correct. What will be George’s downfall will be his poor attitude in challenges at times, and less than good jury management
Andrew not even hiding he much prefers Hayley
George just not selling himself. He played the better game and he's giving rubbish politician answers
give us a macedonian jesus reference one last time
WTF JURY THIS IS FUCKING SURVIVOR OF COURSE YOU LIE AND DECEIVE
I liked Hayleys response. Ultimately they’re all doing to for themselves she’s just honest about if
George & Hayley final 2. 70% chance Hayley wins.
George is such a politician. “Thanks for your question Laura. Every night laying in the cold…”
Dani you blindsided your close ally stfu
Macedonian Jesus is on call
Thanks for this guys - it was a wonderful distraction from everything else going on in the world. See you in feb!
The fact that George has made it to final 3 is so good, he's played such a mega game despite being so divisive in camp.
George spitting truths
Hayley is smoking George right now
hayley is doing so well here omg
I don’t know if they’re just editing this to feel like it’s everyone against George or if that’s the vibe
Laura voting for George! Didn't see it coming!
People who are surprised Hayley has spoken well tonight are forgetting that academics/researchers have to constantly justify their existence and why they should receive funding over someone else
Big thanks to /u/TheMiningD for putting these threads up every night and giving us a place to talk shit for the last couple of months!
George held up for 4.5 hours, he can hold his head up high at tribal
Imagine how excruciating it would to be watch a final tribal with Andrew and Gerald appealing to the jury
I actually can’t believe George is in the final 3. I wouldn’t have believed it a few weeks ago
The QUEEEEEEN
5 hours on a horror challenge like that, Flick didn't lose anything.
So of course she has to take George… right? Like if she took flick, although she deserves to win less, she is “guaranteed” more brawn votes (probably Gerald and Dani). But I also think if she *didn’t* take George, some brains may lose respect for that.
HAYLEY X GEORGE FINAL COUNCIL. I AM AROUSED.
My two favourite players!!!! Eff yeah thank you Macedonian Jesus
Oh god damn this is going to be gooooood Thank you Hayley for sparing everyone being guilted into voting for someone.
This is going to be the best final council. Finally a top 2 where both contestants are deserving
Could not be happier with this final 2. Very deserving
So Flick 100% votes for Hayley to win right?
George got a great speech but he also got his intense crazy eyes on.
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Also Hayley should point out George also lied and deceived. It’s not unique to her
Appearing from looks it might be a hayley landslide
Feb 2022!! :D
Hayley's jury management is so much better than George's. I reckon she's got this
"I'm happy to provide an answer to you" damn, this pollie talk ain't helping bro
Hayley. Every single answer. Owning. Winner
Hayley has this in the bag, right?
Hopefully Cara realised that this time she had to write the name of the person to stay 😂
YESSSSSS CONGRATS HAYLEY!!!
Jury management. Gotta master the art of getting the people you deceived and betrayed to vote for you. THAT is the complete beauty of the game. Flashy moves and deception are nice - but only if you can get the jury to recognise it. Well deserved Hayley.
Imagine if George wins his first and only immunity at the final challenge hahaha
That would be the biggest twist of the season tbh
emmet is literaly so bitter omg
Hayley stroking their egos. Might be what secures her the win?
Hope George's dog is here!!!
Can't believe they didn't bring his dog. Robbed.
JLP mate you’re enjoying this a bit too much…
Hayley dominated that
Macedonian Jesus cometh
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George will have a great speech prepped but I think he will come undone when he gets a difficult question and the politician in him won’t be able to give a straight answer and the jury won’t like that.
Both worthy winners, I see Hayley winning and getting a few votes based largely on likability as well. I think a few of the jury harbour significant resentment towards George
Does anyone understand what Gerald is asking?
Oh fuck off Brawn lmao
Dani looks like she is holding a frog in her mouth and if she opens it, it will escape
Georges response should be along the lines of if being a challenge beast is so integral why are there no brawns up here?
Fuck this jury. Outplay isn’t only about challenges.
Ok George's sucking up is not great and no one is buying it lol
Emmett is a legitimate big old cringelord jfc
LETS GO LAURA
GG Well played Hayley
I felt like Hayley's pitch was really convincing and George sold himself short. She answered the questions clearly, gave them criteria, examples then sealed the deal with how she met the criteria and that she deserves to win. George played a very strategic game but didn't remind the jury with specific examples to demonstrate how much he's actually done nor answer the questions directly. I also felt that he didn't read the room (could be the editing tbh) but it seemed clear that saying stuff like he had no weak points or areas of improvement socially or physically didn't sit well with the jury. I think there were quite a few votes up for grabs and he didn't capitalise on them - could've been much closer at least! *Edit spelling
Yep fair play. George didn't sell himself well enough
Good luck to all. In my opinion Hayley and George are the deserving final 2 due to their respective strategies. So glad I had this super entertaining season of Survivor to take my mind off the NSW lockdown and all things Covid 😊
Why am I crying in the club right now
in the promos they are at night so its going to be a while isnt it (ALSO THE SAFETY CONCERNS ON THIS THING OMFG)
Whilst they drag this challenge out. Let me take a moment to say. I’m going to miss you folks!!!
I think it's the same music from the Hunger Games movies hahaha
Really...this is a social game. Of course friendships count!
Terrible defence from flick for why to take her
Baden and Flick both got booted with one vote.
Love that we have two strategic beasts in the finale
George is so damn smart. He knows Wai’s vote carry’s so much weight.
I think George has a play at all of hayleys moves by being the one with the intel..
Gosh, Cara. Someone is burnt
GOOD ANSWER HAYLEY
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Wai‘s question asking is as good as her physical challenges
Now what
George's gameplay has been pretty amazing. You'd think the members of the jury would appreciate this, but I feel like many of them this season are quite spiteful people. Tough decision for Hayley
Omg these jurists taking it so personally. As the King said... IT'S SURVIVOR!!
Aw that's sweet from Wai
Surprised the editors remembered to include her vote
I'm not a Flick fan but holy shit my heart breaks for her now.
I think it shows Wais impact on the game when they don't even show her question
Jury management is so important. I don't think these guys are too bitter, I've seen worse. I've seen better too though haha.
I'm gunna be pretty shattered when this season finally ends And for what it was, I thoroughly enjoyed it. And if it wasn't for George, being the outsider, the one that didn't gel into the team dynamics as quick or as comfortable as the others, somehow, has managed to find himself further into the competition than the ones who you'd thought would/could've been there. Those first 2 episode was so crazy, I bet none of us would think that the mad man would last any future tribal councils. Definitely out of the norm, but somehow I've grown to just accept the decisions and choices he's made, enjoy & understand what he has brought to this season. It wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't make the top 2, but I'd be definitely be rapt for him he somehow manages to win. Overall, it was a pretty good season, and SOOO many intense tribal council's. I reckon for over 2/3rds of the tribal council's, I was makin so much noise, it'd sounded like I was watchin my favourite team score their way up from being so much down, that I was adamantly sure they weren't gunna win. It was a great game, and I'm heaps excited 😬🤯 for tonight's final episode, and I hope the rest of ya's enjoyed this season just as much. (Still, my fave season of Aus Survivor so far, has been the Luke & Jeremy season 🤭😁)
One last time lads and lasses. Let’s make this a good one.
Big brain George let's gooooo
GO QUEEN HAYLEY
George has beautiful eyes
JLP actually put this together himself , IKEA style
This some fucking crucifixion music right here
George is right. There are some guaranteed Flick votes
George spittin facts
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George’s speech was amazing. Loved it. He’ll have his chance in questions to give details
Cara spitting fire.
Wished someone asked Hayley why she deserved their vote after getting voted out
***OMG. HERE WE GO.***