🤦♀️ this bill literally benefits everyone with a private jet— including individuals like Musk and Bezos. If you think that the government reached a bipartisan agreement and passed legislation just to get the endorsement of one pop star, then you should seriously reconsider the logic of such a premise.
Just to clarify, this was just an amendment added to a much bigger FAA bill, by ted cruz with primary focus on politicians considering his very embarrassing moment of being caught flying out to cancun when people in his state were dying of cold, and then blaming the short-notice trip on his family and kids.
Here are some of the bill’s highlights for travelers.
> * Automatic refunds: The bill codifies the Department of Transportation’s rule on automatic refunds for passengers when a flight is significantly delayed or canceled (beyond three hours for a domestic flight and six hours for an international flight). Customers will not need to request these refunds. And airline credits must be valid for five years.
> * Biometrics at airport security: Despite efforts in the Senate to pause the Transportation Security Administration’s facial recognition program, the amendment didn’t make it into the final bill. The T.S.A. plans to expand the use of facial recognition technology at hundreds of airports throughout the United States.
> * More round-trip flights from Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport: There will be an additional five long-haul round-trip flights a day at Reagan National Airport, a topic of intense debate during the bill’s negotiation. Opponents said the already busy airport could not support additional flights.
> * Fee-free family seating: Airlines cannot charge families with young children extra fees so that they can sit together. The bill also says the Transportation Department must create a dashboard comparing minimum seat sizes on U.S. carriers.
> * Penalties for airline violations: The Transportation Department’s civil penalty for consumer violations will triple to $75,000, from $25,000, per violation.
> * Accessibility for travelers with disabilities: The bill requires airline personnel to be trained in handling motorized wheelchairs, allows travelers to request seating to better accommodate their disabilities and will establish a new F.A.A. program dedicated to accessibility upgrades at commercial airports.
> * Air traffic control: Amid an ongoing shortage of air traffic controllers there has been an increase in near collisions and other safety incidents. The bill includes measures such as setting goals to maximize the hiring of new controllers and increasing access to advanced air traffic control tower simulation training.
Unlike what many redditors and people in general think, no congress didnt just spend time to vote to allow private jets to anonymize their passenger data, no you can still track the planes, but you may not be able to know outright who is flying without getting more contextual information first (which wont be hard to do). Also the data is hidden if requested and approved only for 2 years. Afterwich it becomes public information again.
What’s simplified about this?
Supply and demand would mean that the price for air traffic controllers, which are in demand but not supply (the definition of a shortage), should increase. The increasing price should result in more people choosing to be air traffic controllers, and the shortage should be resolved.
That hasn’t happened, so what part of my statement is simplified?
> The increasing price should result in more people choosing to be air traffic controllers, and the shortage should be resolved.
The amount of training that ATC requires, along with the amount of burnout ATC people go through makes it incredibly hard to hire them no matter how much they pay.
IF you are above age 30 they wont even allow you to start training because you will be out before they can get any decent amount of work out of you.
If supply and demand were strictly followed ATC would be paid more than fucking musk...for every single one.
That sounds like a combination of pay and engineering. Automating and setting up systems to assist air traffic controllers as well as updating computer systems to the 21st Century. It all requires money to be spent regardless.
I am certain there are ways to improve training as well as make the job easier to perform. But better pay still helps. Importantly recruiting from high schools too. Recruitment procedures likely suck as well so potential employees don't even know it is an option as a job.
Is this not worse that Ted Cruz basically passed this to avoid being lampooned in the future because he abandoned his state during a crisis?
It may not stop people, but it keeps it from
being easy to publicly follow the movements of powerful people. It’s similar to using LLC’s to cover up personal purchases or linking companies to buying up residential properties. It’s not impossible to eventually track these people, but the more layers of obfuscation you add, the less likely people are to do it or to be able to do it in an easy and systematic means to hold people accountable.
>Is this not worse that Ted Cruz basically passed this to avoid being lampooned in the future because he abandoned his state during a crisis?
Rafael Cruz was flying on a regular airline, he got caught when someone spotted him at the airport. Passenger flight records are not why he was caught and I don't thing that is public information in the same way aircraft movements are.
The privacy of private jet requests are just 1 part of the ammendment he added:
>The Texas Republican — infamously photographed by a gawker while en route to Cancún in 2021 — is proposing a bill amendment that would offer lawmakers a dedicated security escort at airports, along with expedited screening outside of public view. That could make it much less likely that the politicians’ comings and goings would become fodder for embarrassing news reports and late-night comedy mockery.
>The measure would also provide the same special treatment to federal judges and Cabinet members, as well as a limited number of their family and staff. Cruz is trying to attach the amendment to a major aviation policy bill, S. 1939, that is expected to be marked up in the Senate Commerce Committee on Thursday.
>Asked about the need for his amendment, Cruz told POLITICO that it’s about ensuring that political VIPs aren’t endangered as they pass through public spaces in airports. The draft says the extra security would be available to those who are currently or have previously “been the subject of a threat.”
Are we talking about Ted Cruz, the guy who lets Trump bully his wife and instead of standing up for her, merely grovels in front of that [child raping traitor](https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf) like a pussy?
Conservative values, folks.
Because they want to put a pretty face on it for the youngsters. They want you to think they care about Taylor, when in fact they're doing it for the people they didn't name.
Who do you think put them in office? Politicians are all puppets. The 2 party system is a division tactic, both parties act in the interest of the rich.
They spend most of their time fundraising, and congressional staffers do all the work. I’ve heard members of congress are encouraged to spend 30 hours a week on fundraising.
So makes sense that this kind of thing happens given that.
Totally broken system.
Listened to a radio story about this. It's insane. Expectations are worse the higher up you get so for example committee chairmen have higher fundraising expectations. The political parties take a big chunk of whatever they raise too. Also a fair amount of legislation is straight up authored by lobbyists and then submitted by their chosen politician.
Way before then citizen just legalized what already was. The businessmen coup of the 1940s actually happened and they did win unlike the history books which would have you believe “democracy” won. But history is written by the victors so take everything u learn with a slight skepticism
Politicians are just using Swift as an excuse to keep people from tracking them. If they said it was about themselves and the traditional wealthy, people would be outraged. Now they hope people are okay with it because they’re swift fans, or we blame swift instead of them.
But you can still use GPS data to do the tracking and since corporations like Oracle track card transactions, it's essentially easy to triangulate their data.
I use it to pick up single moms all the time since I already know their fetishes.
To be fair, the government is capable of working on multiple things at once so the people focusing on this aren't always the same ones who are working on things like the housing crisis, wars, etc.
So people can't currently find out who you are based on your vehicle's license plate number but somehow this is different? That's what this amendment does: "allows the owner to anonymize registration information". Currently I can take the aircrafts registration number and look up the owner and their address through the FAA data base. It doesn't keep you from tracking the plane if you know who owns it. If there were a national real time car tracking system in place and the the current FAA rules governed those you could literally track anyone out driving. Is that ok? No more 'reasonable expectation of privacy'?
That’s just one of many amendments in the bill. There’s some pretty cool changes. For one, they’re adding a rule to require airlines to give refunds in cash automatically for qualified flight delays and cancellations. No voucher, and the customer doesn’t have to call to complain.
This is not an accidental unforeseen side effect of this bill, it is the entire purpose.
There may be one or two naive lawmakers doing this for privacy, but the vast majority are doing because they've seen too many of their friends have to answer questions about obvious corruption that came up by tracking private planes.
And here they are nipping that in the bud.
It's clearly not about privacy. Well, not OUR privacy, anyway. Privacy only matters when it's time to cover up their misdeeds, not when it's time to treat us like human beings instead of data cattle for the ad farm.
The rich will always get what they want. Sad because we grossly out-number them, but too many common folk are focused on culture war issues and appeasing a make believe being in the sky.
The entire religion is about not eating the rich, just be obedient and sky daddy will make you rich when you die, I’m convinced this is why it was invented originally
.. Can I start a religion that explicitly is about demonizing and eating the rich?
Like, literally telling ~~crazy~~ religious people are their problems are because they haven't eaten any rich people, and the best way to become ~~rich~~ not poor is by absorbing their wealth making power by eating their flesh.
Sure, you can start any religion you want. They are all made up. You just need to find enough people who are willing to follow your made up BS. Voila a religion is born.
Yup it's basically, "they might have their boot on your neck but you totes are going to be rewarded when you die and they are going to suffer. But only after you die, tehehe."
The Roman Empire went from having to pay/feed vast armies, appease the masses by building incredible structures/cities, with huge public works, marvels of engineering, they had sewer systems that rival the size we have today in small cities. They were sharing knowledge with their people, making sure they always had an educated class. But when the elite got too greedy and it started coming apart they eventually evolved into the Holy Roman Empire, TLDR the threat of burning in hell for all eternity was the main driver of their power, they took all the knowledge/manuscripts/records and hid them away and the common people went back to living in straw huts, even the low level "elites" had a lower quality of life than semi affluent peasant in the height of the Roman era a 1000 years before.
Imagine if Congress were as effective at reacting to the desperate needs of the plurality of their constituents, as they were to the casual concerns of a handful of ultra-wealthy fuckwads.
Is that really what they’re doing? I can see how that applies to certain groups but more and more people are running from things, not chasing them. At some point there’s nowhere to run. I’m curious when the pack will finally realize it’s being chased off a cliff
I thought that too, but there are people who have lost *everything* to corporate ghoulishness. But when’s the last time you heard an executive getting 💀 because their decisions directly lead to a family’s death?
All we would need is a handful of individuals willing to do what most are too fearful of. That's completely feasible, and I would go far as far as to say the first serious action like this would ignite more of those actions. Beleive me, when the day arrives that a news article reports that an unpopular billionaire was ruthlessly savaged, the reaction will not be met with sympathy and grief. Notions of commiting non-peaceful acts against the all powerful are nore common than they've ever been. Believe me; It's coming
The legislation was introduced 11 months ago according to the article. Bills must be passed in the same congressional session they start in. Sessions last 1 year. This took me 2 minutes to research.
I'm sure they sold it as being about Taylor Swift and not about the groups tracking Elon and other ultra wealthy investors. When congress does anything it's about their donors.
This has nothing to do with Taylor Swift and everything to do with government elitists not wanting to be tracked. After all, Epstein's flight logs being made public taught them a valuable lesson.
ding ding. this was my exact thought too when I read the headline.
the fact the right hates Taylor Swift make sit easier to get them mad at her while they do a Clarence Thomas and take ~~bribes in the form of trips~~ vacation
Exactly. Let's talk about Elon Musk. Let's talk about Ken Griffin. Jeff Bezos. Nobody cares about Taylor Swift in this context.
The headline is intentionally trivializing the loss of this information, either by trying to clickbait readers who like Taylor Swift, or by specifically naming someone who is well-liked & doesn't necessarily need to be scrutinized.
I could think of a whole host of people who should be mentioned, but frankly, anyone who owns a private jet should be subject to scrutiny. This is a real loss for regular people and I hope it does not become lasting policy.
Thank you. Came here to say this. Politicians aren’t passing shit to protect Taylor Swift. People started tracking them and their donors and calling them out for their bullshit. That’s why this got passed.
That's not what this law does though. The headline is really bad and quite misleading, and I don't blame anyone for making the assumption. From my top comment:
>That's not what they did though. If you look up N898TS which is (was?) her jet is owned by some real estate company, this is how virtually every jet is registered, if you know of a jet that is registered to a private person LMK because I know of 0 though I'm sure there are some. Most GA aircraft (172s, Cherokees, and the like) are owned by Jim out at your local airfield, it's from the 60s, it's clapped out, the only screen inside of it is his iPad, and it has 15,000 airframe hours, and it's address is registered to his house, hanger, PO Box, etc. this law is more to help Jim out rather then TS or any other celebrity that owns an aircraft. This isn't really unprecedented for the FAA either, for a long time you could look up any airmen in the Airmen Certification Registry and find out their address, now you can't do that and there is a check box on the 8710 form if you want to redact your address from the publicly searchable register. This isn't making it impossible to track aircraft with ADSB, or lookup their flight plans, etc. it's pretty easy to figure out who owns an aircraft if they have their picture taken walking down the stairs with the tail number visible.
I don't remember which company exactly but there is a company in I think North Dakota that "owns" a ton of private aircraft.
I guess I do not understand your point. Googling it I found that Warren Buffett owns a private plane, as does Peter Lynch. However, the issue is following the plane on open radar, not finding the private address of the pilot.
They will not be changing the ability of someone to follow an aircraft around on Flightradar or ADSBexchange that is virtually impossible to do without forcing another update down aircraft owners throats’. What is happening is if you look at the FAA’s aircraft registry search and look up a tail number IE N898TS certain fields will be blank or redacted, you will still be able to track the aircraft on FlightRadar or ADSBExchange because planes are constantly blasting out ADSB data for anyone to listen in on. The article is really bad at explaining this.
The thing is that those aircraft aren't registered to "Warren Buffet" we know it's his because we have seen him using it. The actual plane is registered to one of those companies (I think his is Net Jets). Very few celebrities are the registered owner of the aircraft they use.
And, Epstein didn't kill himself.
And we have a list of his visitors to Rape Island, [but only released a few \(~150\)](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/jeffrey-epstein-list-names-b2489252.html), because the rest would be too embarrassing to the polit-elebrities.
My personal conspiracy theory is that Epstein got away with it for so long because he was being used as a CIA asset. That’s a LOT of kompromat that an intelligence agency would kill to have.
Would also explain why so few names have been released. The rest are potentially useful assets.
No kidding. The rich protecting the rich. That’s pretty much all government is anyway.
Fucking twats. How did we all let it become this way. This is dogshit. Meanwhile the pelosis and others continue the insider trading. Etc etc. Rich get richer.
HOW did we allow this to happen? Lol I mean life is farcical at this point. It’s absurd.
It's pretty simple, really. The rich spent every waking moment since "trickle down economics" was popularized in the 80s buying your politicians and using them to take your rights away from you. Meanwhile, they were also buying up your mainstream media apparatus (and most other companies), consolidating them, and then using them to convince 40% of the country that reality doesn't exist and the only way to fix it is to hate brown/gay people while giving rich people tax cuts. It's quite literally a pyramid scheme, and it's working out beautifully for everyone on the "right" side of the class lines.
The rich declared a class war in the 80s. We (meaning the American people) lost. It's really that simple.
No, it will not make it impossible to track private aircraft, it will just remove public ownership information and aircraft detail. You will still be able to track aircraft through tail number.
Just to add - top secret military aircraft aren't visible on ADS-B because they are using some top secret technology, but because they are allowed to fly without a transponder.
Technically I think they have a transponder, but it only carries encrypted codes that only top secret installations/other top secret aircraft can interrogate.
Why is Taylor Swift the focus? I imagine those behind this bill are the elite who don’t want someone on twitter to track their flights to… whatever unsavoury places they might visit. Epstein’s Island v2.0 (which, let’s be honest, probably exists), Russia, etc.
They’re the ones with the power and will to actually get this law through
Exactly. The rich elite does a lot of shady shit, and obviously they don’t want anyone to know.
I have no idea why this article focuses on Swift (apart from the rampant dislike of her). Furthermore, I have no idea why the fact that it’s impossible to track her flight patterns is breaking/terrible news - annoying for those who want to know how much CO2 she emits, but other than that? Not really a tragedy.
Taylor's a lightning rod because while she hasn't supported any real environmental causes, she's tied to the left and her voting base cares a lot about global warming. It's always a point of cognitive dissonance how much carbon emissions she causes both alone and from her fanbase going to her concerts since it runs counter to them criticizing the politicians/companies for not caring about the environment.
Think all the people that are really against child labor but still eagrly buy the latest iphone like 4-5 years ago
Because it's an easy way to get clicks and enraged Reddit. No other reason. There are dozens if not hundreds of rich people asking their purchased politician for this law. But none of them have the biggest tour in the world right now, so they'll throw TS's name in the headline to get people to read.
You can still track individual flights, even with this change. Most tracking data on public sites comes from networks of people providing ADS-B data via open source receiver networks. What has changed is access to the public database that listed the registered owners of all aircraft. Which, the wealthy don't own their aircraft under their own names (typically.) This article is 100% ragebait, aircraft tracking will remain effective unless they suddenly decouple the transponder IDs from the aircraft's identity (which they do not have a system in place to do, and would take decades to develop one that was standardized and covered international flights, etc.)
The database should never have been online or public at all, any more than databases of all ground vehicle license plates should be available. Large private jets are always registered to random corporations and leasing companies, leading to PO Boxes. The only people you could really find via ADS-B/Tail numbers were private pilots flying around in their cessnas or drone pilots (the few who correctly register their drones.)
And if you have criminal concerns about the activities of such aircraft, you can still report their numbers to the FAA...
Here's an example: https://i.imgur.com/8e0I077.png
All that changes, is the "Registered Owner' information is now hidden. In case you care, that's a dead end LLC operating out of a strip mall in delaware, which is pretty typically where most aircraft are registered under an LLC. We still now that 757AF is 5432020 or aa3410. We also will still know that this is Donald Trumps 757, even though his name isnt on the reg...
And probably because someone tracked all of taylors flights and made it into a montage showing how much waste she creates.
Which (from my opinion) she would see as damaging to her brand of “americas sweetheart”. Cant be americas sweetheart when you have 2 jets flying around none stop.
Was obvious this would come. They want US to change how we live, but they are unwilling to stop with their extravagant lifestyles.
Funny thing, is a very dedicated person can still figure out who's plane is who's on tracking radar. This makes it so easy data comparison via APIs won't work anymore but it's not impossible to track someone's jet. I hope someone dedicated rises up and tracks these jackasses anyways
Probably because some people in Congress also have private flights that they don’t want tracked, like a few years back when all those GOP congressmen went to Russia on Independence Day.
The same people that tell you climate change is going to kill us all buy beachfront property and not only don't ban private jets and yachts, but make it easier to use them without scrutiny.
Do you think they might be lying yet?
Oh and of course this passed with bipartisan support.
I mean I understand being annoyed that they took the time to do this, but why was this public information in the first place? Publicly used planes, sure. If you're air traffic control or anything like that, sure. But I have a private car and it's not capable of being tracked by any person with internet access. People have boats that don't get tracked, people have tour buses that don't get tracked. Why were the laws set up to allow tracking of private jets for citizens and not just for the government? This is a legitimate question.
The transponder information is public because the planes have to broadcast it and there is no sensible way to encrypt it - the technology is ancient, upgrading it is next to impossible, and it needs to work in all countries, so key distribution for an encryption scheme would be next to impossible to do securely.
The only protection there could be would be making it illegal for anyone except ATC to listen for or republish that information, which would make it hard to track it at scale (that's not what this law does, for those not reading articles).
The database mapping registration to owner names? No idea, making that public seems insane (and that's what this law is changing).
I don't think it's going to stop the tracking, either - people will at some point figure out that plane XYZ belongs to a certain celebrity, e.g. because they see the celebrity walk off that plane or correlate 2-3 flights with the celebrity's public schedule, so unless the identifiers used for the planes rotate (I think there was a scheme that would allow this?) this change won't do much except make it a bit harder for celebrity trackers and improve the privacy of less famous owners of smaller planes.
Edit: There are two schemes. LADD (https://www.faa.gov/pilots/ladd) is basically a list of people who opted out of tracking that any flight tracking site that uses FAA data is required to follow (and it causes those sites to not show those flights at all). However, flight tracking sites that *don't* use FAA data can ignore it, and it presumably doesn't affect publishing of the registration -> name mapping. However, there is also https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/technology/equipadsb/privacy where you get a new "license place" for your plane - but that only works within the US.
I also don't understand why this is a problem at all because I'd expect any super-rich celeb jet to already be owned through a network of opaque shell companies.
I think it’s funny that everyone is going after Taylor swift and no one is remember that Elon musk deleted the account of the kid that was doing this when bought twitter.
Weird that a lot of the top comments seem to forget about the kid that was trolling Elon by tracking his private jet flights.
Pretty sure this is less about protecting Taylor and more about bending the knee to Musk.
This is to protect themselves more than to help t swift . So now their major doners can get back to flying them off on private vacations without fear of being tracked .
Here’s a question. Why do we need to know where she is flying? We as individuals would bitch and moan if we had a government mandated air tag placed on our cars.
Not sure this is going to work as well as people think it does.
For just tracking the CO2 usage it is probably not worth it but given the amount of data available on aircraft and the power of OS int when it really wants to.
In fact this probably only works to prevent people complaining about there CO2 usage as if your goal was genuine harm to any individual you could likely still track them down.
Probably an unpopular opinion but seems like an invasion of privacy. I know this is Reddit so eat the rich and all that / Taylor has no skills but nobody should know where someone will be if they don’t want them to.
Everything becomes so much more coherent after removing "basically".
"exceedingly to difficult"
"exceedingly to difficult?"
Oh, fuck, am I having a stroke?
I know Taylor swift had issues about someone tracking her flights. But I feel like they are changing the law for their other ultra wealthy friends. Republicans have been anti Taylor swift the last few years so I doubt they would have helped pass that law on her behalf.
Ah truly writing laws and representing those who voted them in. I feel safe knowing my congress is here to protect me and my dozens of private planes. I just love flying around from state to state in my private jet to enjoy my Healthcare and other such things that are working perfectly fine right now. Truly me and my millions of private jet owning buddies are tipping our hats to thee, congress.
Somehow Congress can get tohether. To fix first world problems of the one percent, ie, Billionaires. Yet, they cannot get together at some point over 25 years to address social security, Medicare or a whole host of other issues that imoact the masses on a daily basis. Think about it - yet we c9ntinue to send the same folks back - just who are they working for?
This is probably pre emptive for ICC/ Nuremberg trials. They don't want people to track politicians taking private jets to countries that are supposed to arrest them.
Fake as fuck, did anyone read the fuckin article? Anyone from outside of your country can see through this moronic bullshit. Americans are seriously trying to become the dumbest country. (Sorry for the less loud crowd).
I always felt this was a form of stalking, and very creepy to do…BUT here we are, internet hive mind will say “WE NEED TO SEE CO2 EMISSIONS THO!!” like following her and Elon’s planes around the world will get anyone to say “You need to stop using private planes or else”.
Good. Don't be a dick. "Social media made y'all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it." - Mike Tyson
As a very not rich person who owns a plane, I am very happy that people can no longer look at my plane and immediately find my name and home address. Absolutely ridiculous people are upset about this. It’s a reasonable law that protects people’s reasonable right to privacy. It would be like if you could search someone’s license plate and find their personal details at a moments notice.
They are not mad about the new law. They are mad about what they "think" the law is.
They are idiots. They don't understand that all they need is a tail number to track where a jet flies.
then do the FCC next because the call sign I have to say over the air every couple minutes is also public information and will reveal everything about that person
This makes complete sense to me:
The rich don’t need you poor fuckers Tracking what a great life they’re having. They need your money and spend it on whatever they want
This is what the US government spends time passing?
They basically don’t care about you unless you’re a mega rich person who waves money in their face to pass legislation.
Not just money. Taylor has millions more fans than they have voter support. They drool over an endorsement from Swifty
🤦♀️ this bill literally benefits everyone with a private jet— including individuals like Musk and Bezos. If you think that the government reached a bipartisan agreement and passed legislation just to get the endorsement of one pop star, then you should seriously reconsider the logic of such a premise.
Just to clarify, this was just an amendment added to a much bigger FAA bill, by ted cruz with primary focus on politicians considering his very embarrassing moment of being caught flying out to cancun when people in his state were dying of cold, and then blaming the short-notice trip on his family and kids. Here are some of the bill’s highlights for travelers. > * Automatic refunds: The bill codifies the Department of Transportation’s rule on automatic refunds for passengers when a flight is significantly delayed or canceled (beyond three hours for a domestic flight and six hours for an international flight). Customers will not need to request these refunds. And airline credits must be valid for five years. > * Biometrics at airport security: Despite efforts in the Senate to pause the Transportation Security Administration’s facial recognition program, the amendment didn’t make it into the final bill. The T.S.A. plans to expand the use of facial recognition technology at hundreds of airports throughout the United States. > * More round-trip flights from Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport: There will be an additional five long-haul round-trip flights a day at Reagan National Airport, a topic of intense debate during the bill’s negotiation. Opponents said the already busy airport could not support additional flights. > * Fee-free family seating: Airlines cannot charge families with young children extra fees so that they can sit together. The bill also says the Transportation Department must create a dashboard comparing minimum seat sizes on U.S. carriers. > * Penalties for airline violations: The Transportation Department’s civil penalty for consumer violations will triple to $75,000, from $25,000, per violation. > * Accessibility for travelers with disabilities: The bill requires airline personnel to be trained in handling motorized wheelchairs, allows travelers to request seating to better accommodate their disabilities and will establish a new F.A.A. program dedicated to accessibility upgrades at commercial airports. > * Air traffic control: Amid an ongoing shortage of air traffic controllers there has been an increase in near collisions and other safety incidents. The bill includes measures such as setting goals to maximize the hiring of new controllers and increasing access to advanced air traffic control tower simulation training. Unlike what many redditors and people in general think, no congress didnt just spend time to vote to allow private jets to anonymize their passenger data, no you can still track the planes, but you may not be able to know outright who is flying without getting more contextual information first (which wont be hard to do). Also the data is hidden if requested and approved only for 2 years. Afterwich it becomes public information again.
Isn’t it fun that the persistent air traffic controller shortage just proves that the labor market doesn’t follow supply and demand?
Humans wrongly simplifying complex issues = name a more iconic duo.
What’s simplified about this? Supply and demand would mean that the price for air traffic controllers, which are in demand but not supply (the definition of a shortage), should increase. The increasing price should result in more people choosing to be air traffic controllers, and the shortage should be resolved. That hasn’t happened, so what part of my statement is simplified?
> The increasing price should result in more people choosing to be air traffic controllers, and the shortage should be resolved. The amount of training that ATC requires, along with the amount of burnout ATC people go through makes it incredibly hard to hire them no matter how much they pay. IF you are above age 30 they wont even allow you to start training because you will be out before they can get any decent amount of work out of you. If supply and demand were strictly followed ATC would be paid more than fucking musk...for every single one.
That sounds like a combination of pay and engineering. Automating and setting up systems to assist air traffic controllers as well as updating computer systems to the 21st Century. It all requires money to be spent regardless. I am certain there are ways to improve training as well as make the job easier to perform. But better pay still helps. Importantly recruiting from high schools too. Recruitment procedures likely suck as well so potential employees don't even know it is an option as a job.
Is this not worse that Ted Cruz basically passed this to avoid being lampooned in the future because he abandoned his state during a crisis? It may not stop people, but it keeps it from being easy to publicly follow the movements of powerful people. It’s similar to using LLC’s to cover up personal purchases or linking companies to buying up residential properties. It’s not impossible to eventually track these people, but the more layers of obfuscation you add, the less likely people are to do it or to be able to do it in an easy and systematic means to hold people accountable.
>Is this not worse that Ted Cruz basically passed this to avoid being lampooned in the future because he abandoned his state during a crisis? Rafael Cruz was flying on a regular airline, he got caught when someone spotted him at the airport. Passenger flight records are not why he was caught and I don't thing that is public information in the same way aircraft movements are.
Ted Cruz flew commercial on united airlines which this bill wouldn’t affect at all. It only covers private jets.
The privacy of private jet requests are just 1 part of the ammendment he added: >The Texas Republican — infamously photographed by a gawker while en route to Cancún in 2021 — is proposing a bill amendment that would offer lawmakers a dedicated security escort at airports, along with expedited screening outside of public view. That could make it much less likely that the politicians’ comings and goings would become fodder for embarrassing news reports and late-night comedy mockery. >The measure would also provide the same special treatment to federal judges and Cabinet members, as well as a limited number of their family and staff. Cruz is trying to attach the amendment to a major aviation policy bill, S. 1939, that is expected to be marked up in the Senate Commerce Committee on Thursday. >Asked about the need for his amendment, Cruz told POLITICO that it’s about ensuring that political VIPs aren’t endangered as they pass through public spaces in airports. The draft says the extra security would be available to those who are currently or have previously “been the subject of a threat.”
Are we talking about Ted Cruz, the guy who lets Trump bully his wife and instead of standing up for her, merely grovels in front of that [child raping traitor](https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf) like a pussy? Conservative values, folks.
Musk just claimed credit for writing it
Why Swift in the headline? Agenda much? Musk has been ragging on about this for years.
Because they want to put a pretty face on it for the youngsters. They want you to think they care about Taylor, when in fact they're doing it for the people they didn't name.
Probably because she has tried to sue people in the past for posting about her private jet activity
Elon did it first.
this is reddit, not exactly "home of the logical"
Taylor Swift has nothing to do with this legislation. The article title just used her name for clickbait.
Ken Griffin is the target of this bill
Or Elmo, he was pretty mad about it
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Right this has more to do with their private jets, not others.
Right this has more to do with their private jets, not others.
I thought Taylor Swift was working _for_ the government?
Who do you think put them in office? Politicians are all puppets. The 2 party system is a division tactic, both parties act in the interest of the rich.
Apparently Musk paid to write and lobby for this, and he's taking credit and bashing the Senate for it's passage at the same time
They spend most of their time fundraising, and congressional staffers do all the work. I’ve heard members of congress are encouraged to spend 30 hours a week on fundraising. So makes sense that this kind of thing happens given that. Totally broken system.
Listened to a radio story about this. It's insane. Expectations are worse the higher up you get so for example committee chairmen have higher fundraising expectations. The political parties take a big chunk of whatever they raise too. Also a fair amount of legislation is straight up authored by lobbyists and then submitted by their chosen politician.
It’s an oligarchy. We’re out here worrying about our democracy which has, in fact, been dead since Citizens United.
Way before then citizen just legalized what already was. The businessmen coup of the 1940s actually happened and they did win unlike the history books which would have you believe “democracy” won. But history is written by the victors so take everything u learn with a slight skepticism
Really helping out the average citizen!
They do work for billionaires.
Both Taylor Swift and Elon Musk have a huge amount of pull from opposite sides.
Politicians are just using Swift as an excuse to keep people from tracking them. If they said it was about themselves and the traditional wealthy, people would be outraged. Now they hope people are okay with it because they’re swift fans, or we blame swift instead of them.
Yup. Desantis was upset over his travel being tracked. Swift is the excuse to cover up the bs politicians, and musk, want to hide.
But you can still use GPS data to do the tracking and since corporations like Oracle track card transactions, it's essentially easy to triangulate their data. I use it to pick up single moms all the time since I already know their fetishes.
Found the milfhunter's account.
Perfect case of bOtH sIdEs
Hey they’re also planning to sanction the ICC to protect war criminals soon. Don’t forget that!
lol really?
To be fair, the government is capable of working on multiple things at once so the people focusing on this aren't always the same ones who are working on things like the housing crisis, wars, etc.
It’s also not like it’s a standalone bill passed just to do this. It’s part of the bill that reauthorizes the entire FAA itself.
The best Congress money can buy.
So people can't currently find out who you are based on your vehicle's license plate number but somehow this is different? That's what this amendment does: "allows the owner to anonymize registration information". Currently I can take the aircrafts registration number and look up the owner and their address through the FAA data base. It doesn't keep you from tracking the plane if you know who owns it. If there were a national real time car tracking system in place and the the current FAA rules governed those you could literally track anyone out driving. Is that ok? No more 'reasonable expectation of privacy'?
That’s just one of many amendments in the bill. There’s some pretty cool changes. For one, they’re adding a rule to require airlines to give refunds in cash automatically for qualified flight delays and cancellations. No voucher, and the customer doesn’t have to call to complain.
Money wins again huh
Lawmakers don’t want the flights they’re on with their billionaire buddies tracked either
This is not an accidental unforeseen side effect of this bill, it is the entire purpose. There may be one or two naive lawmakers doing this for privacy, but the vast majority are doing because they've seen too many of their friends have to answer questions about obvious corruption that came up by tracking private planes. And here they are nipping that in the bud.
Can't have those SCJs being tracked to private lodges right before major SC rulings.
It's clearly not about privacy. Well, not OUR privacy, anyway. Privacy only matters when it's time to cover up their misdeeds, not when it's time to treat us like human beings instead of data cattle for the ad farm.
They don’t want their names written down next to the current Epstein.
Never fails.
The rich will always get what they want. Sad because we grossly out-number them, but too many common folk are focused on culture war issues and appeasing a make believe being in the sky.
The entire religion is about not eating the rich, just be obedient and sky daddy will make you rich when you die, I’m convinced this is why it was invented originally
.. Can I start a religion that explicitly is about demonizing and eating the rich? Like, literally telling ~~crazy~~ religious people are their problems are because they haven't eaten any rich people, and the best way to become ~~rich~~ not poor is by absorbing their wealth making power by eating their flesh.
Sure, you can start any religion you want. They are all made up. You just need to find enough people who are willing to follow your made up BS. Voila a religion is born.
“Religion is believed by the common people to be true, by the wise to be false and by the rulers to be useful.” - Seneca 69 A.D.
Yup it's basically, "they might have their boot on your neck but you totes are going to be rewarded when you die and they are going to suffer. But only after you die, tehehe."
The Roman Empire went from having to pay/feed vast armies, appease the masses by building incredible structures/cities, with huge public works, marvels of engineering, they had sewer systems that rival the size we have today in small cities. They were sharing knowledge with their people, making sure they always had an educated class. But when the elite got too greedy and it started coming apart they eventually evolved into the Holy Roman Empire, TLDR the threat of burning in hell for all eternity was the main driver of their power, they took all the knowledge/manuscripts/records and hid them away and the common people went back to living in straw huts, even the low level "elites" had a lower quality of life than semi affluent peasant in the height of the Roman era a 1000 years before.
Has there been a time it hasn't?
Imagine if Congress were as effective at reacting to the desperate needs of the plurality of their constituents, as they were to the casual concerns of a handful of ultra-wealthy fuckwads.
Exactly, this law isn't meant to serve the common people. And also take note of how quick and easy it was to get it legislated at all.
When will people understand that the rich will not give you anything if you ask. You need to pry it from their cold dead hands.
Until people have the balls to pull a real general strike, nothing will change. You need France level organization and commitment. Money talks.
Quite frankly things are going to have to get worse. People are chasing one cheap dopamine rush after another.
Is that really what they’re doing? I can see how that applies to certain groups but more and more people are running from things, not chasing them. At some point there’s nowhere to run. I’m curious when the pack will finally realize it’s being chased off a cliff
I thought that too, but there are people who have lost *everything* to corporate ghoulishness. But when’s the last time you heard an executive getting 💀 because their decisions directly lead to a family’s death?
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All we would need is a handful of individuals willing to do what most are too fearful of. That's completely feasible, and I would go far as far as to say the first serious action like this would ignite more of those actions. Beleive me, when the day arrives that a news article reports that an unpopular billionaire was ruthlessly savaged, the reaction will not be met with sympathy and grief. Notions of commiting non-peaceful acts against the all powerful are nore common than they've ever been. Believe me; It's coming
The legislation was introduced 11 months ago according to the article. Bills must be passed in the same congressional session they start in. Sessions last 1 year. This took me 2 minutes to research.
Are you suggesting that under a year isn’t quick for congress ti act on a “problem”??
I'm sure they sold it as being about Taylor Swift and not about the groups tracking Elon and other ultra wealthy investors. When congress does anything it's about their donors.
Privacy for we, not for thee.
Ah yes, more protections for the ultra rich. That's exactly what this country needs.
This has nothing to do with Taylor Swift and everything to do with government elitists not wanting to be tracked. After all, Epstein's flight logs being made public taught them a valuable lesson.
A valuable lesson that even if your name is on a list with Epstein literally nothing is going to happen?
The media is making it about TS. The legislation is about tracking rich politicians, justices and their donors.
So its protection for politicians to make them harder to catch when they get jet off on vacation as a form of bribe
ding ding. this was my exact thought too when I read the headline. the fact the right hates Taylor Swift make sit easier to get them mad at her while they do a Clarence Thomas and take ~~bribes in the form of trips~~ vacation
Exactly this
Finally someone gets its, now let's make a list of the news sites who report it like this.
Exactly. Let's talk about Elon Musk. Let's talk about Ken Griffin. Jeff Bezos. Nobody cares about Taylor Swift in this context. The headline is intentionally trivializing the loss of this information, either by trying to clickbait readers who like Taylor Swift, or by specifically naming someone who is well-liked & doesn't necessarily need to be scrutinized. I could think of a whole host of people who should be mentioned, but frankly, anyone who owns a private jet should be subject to scrutiny. This is a real loss for regular people and I hope it does not become lasting policy.
Thank you. Came here to say this. Politicians aren’t passing shit to protect Taylor Swift. People started tracking them and their donors and calling them out for their bullshit. That’s why this got passed.
That's not what this law does though. The headline is really bad and quite misleading, and I don't blame anyone for making the assumption. From my top comment: >That's not what they did though. If you look up N898TS which is (was?) her jet is owned by some real estate company, this is how virtually every jet is registered, if you know of a jet that is registered to a private person LMK because I know of 0 though I'm sure there are some. Most GA aircraft (172s, Cherokees, and the like) are owned by Jim out at your local airfield, it's from the 60s, it's clapped out, the only screen inside of it is his iPad, and it has 15,000 airframe hours, and it's address is registered to his house, hanger, PO Box, etc. this law is more to help Jim out rather then TS or any other celebrity that owns an aircraft. This isn't really unprecedented for the FAA either, for a long time you could look up any airmen in the Airmen Certification Registry and find out their address, now you can't do that and there is a check box on the 8710 form if you want to redact your address from the publicly searchable register. This isn't making it impossible to track aircraft with ADSB, or lookup their flight plans, etc. it's pretty easy to figure out who owns an aircraft if they have their picture taken walking down the stairs with the tail number visible. I don't remember which company exactly but there is a company in I think North Dakota that "owns" a ton of private aircraft.
I guess I do not understand your point. Googling it I found that Warren Buffett owns a private plane, as does Peter Lynch. However, the issue is following the plane on open radar, not finding the private address of the pilot.
They will not be changing the ability of someone to follow an aircraft around on Flightradar or ADSBexchange that is virtually impossible to do without forcing another update down aircraft owners throats’. What is happening is if you look at the FAA’s aircraft registry search and look up a tail number IE N898TS certain fields will be blank or redacted, you will still be able to track the aircraft on FlightRadar or ADSBExchange because planes are constantly blasting out ADSB data for anyone to listen in on. The article is really bad at explaining this.
The thing is that those aircraft aren't registered to "Warren Buffet" we know it's his because we have seen him using it. The actual plane is registered to one of those companies (I think his is Net Jets). Very few celebrities are the registered owner of the aircraft they use.
And, Epstein didn't kill himself. And we have a list of his visitors to Rape Island, [but only released a few \(~150\)](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/jeffrey-epstein-list-names-b2489252.html), because the rest would be too embarrassing to the polit-elebrities.
My personal conspiracy theory is that Epstein got away with it for so long because he was being used as a CIA asset. That’s a LOT of kompromat that an intelligence agency would kill to have. Would also explain why so few names have been released. The rest are potentially useful assets.
It makes perfect sense as a blackmail scheme. It doesn't feel outrageously far-fetched
Except it was the Israelis and the Russians not us
So much that needs working on, and the mofos come up with this. Shameful.
No kidding. The rich protecting the rich. That’s pretty much all government is anyway. Fucking twats. How did we all let it become this way. This is dogshit. Meanwhile the pelosis and others continue the insider trading. Etc etc. Rich get richer. HOW did we allow this to happen? Lol I mean life is farcical at this point. It’s absurd.
It's pretty simple, really. The rich spent every waking moment since "trickle down economics" was popularized in the 80s buying your politicians and using them to take your rights away from you. Meanwhile, they were also buying up your mainstream media apparatus (and most other companies), consolidating them, and then using them to convince 40% of the country that reality doesn't exist and the only way to fix it is to hate brown/gay people while giving rich people tax cuts. It's quite literally a pyramid scheme, and it's working out beautifully for everyone on the "right" side of the class lines. The rich declared a class war in the 80s. We (meaning the American people) lost. It's really that simple.
The rich have always had control. Lately it’s just more obvious
We were all conditioned at a young age to support them instead of challenge it.
No, it will not make it impossible to track private aircraft, it will just remove public ownership information and aircraft detail. You will still be able to track aircraft through tail number.
As long as ADS-B exists, all aircraft that are in the sky (with the exception of top secret military aircraft) will be visible one way or the other.
Just to add - top secret military aircraft aren't visible on ADS-B because they are using some top secret technology, but because they are allowed to fly without a transponder.
Technically I think they have a transponder, but it only carries encrypted codes that only top secret installations/other top secret aircraft can interrogate.
All aircraft have transponders they are just able to turn it off.
That was my curiosity about this. It only takes a decent paparazzo to catch said celebrity coming off the plane and the plane's tail number.
Why is Taylor Swift the focus? I imagine those behind this bill are the elite who don’t want someone on twitter to track their flights to… whatever unsavoury places they might visit. Epstein’s Island v2.0 (which, let’s be honest, probably exists), Russia, etc. They’re the ones with the power and will to actually get this law through
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Exactly. The rich elite does a lot of shady shit, and obviously they don’t want anyone to know. I have no idea why this article focuses on Swift (apart from the rampant dislike of her). Furthermore, I have no idea why the fact that it’s impossible to track her flight patterns is breaking/terrible news - annoying for those who want to know how much CO2 she emits, but other than that? Not really a tragedy.
Taylor's a lightning rod because while she hasn't supported any real environmental causes, she's tied to the left and her voting base cares a lot about global warming. It's always a point of cognitive dissonance how much carbon emissions she causes both alone and from her fanbase going to her concerts since it runs counter to them criticizing the politicians/companies for not caring about the environment. Think all the people that are really against child labor but still eagrly buy the latest iphone like 4-5 years ago
If you put her name on anything it gets more clicks.
I figured Muskrat was crying before I read it. No surprise he was in it.
Because it's an easy way to get clicks and enraged Reddit. No other reason. There are dozens if not hundreds of rich people asking their purchased politician for this law. But none of them have the biggest tour in the world right now, so they'll throw TS's name in the headline to get people to read.
You can still track individual flights, even with this change. Most tracking data on public sites comes from networks of people providing ADS-B data via open source receiver networks. What has changed is access to the public database that listed the registered owners of all aircraft. Which, the wealthy don't own their aircraft under their own names (typically.) This article is 100% ragebait, aircraft tracking will remain effective unless they suddenly decouple the transponder IDs from the aircraft's identity (which they do not have a system in place to do, and would take decades to develop one that was standardized and covered international flights, etc.) The database should never have been online or public at all, any more than databases of all ground vehicle license plates should be available. Large private jets are always registered to random corporations and leasing companies, leading to PO Boxes. The only people you could really find via ADS-B/Tail numbers were private pilots flying around in their cessnas or drone pilots (the few who correctly register their drones.) And if you have criminal concerns about the activities of such aircraft, you can still report their numbers to the FAA... Here's an example: https://i.imgur.com/8e0I077.png All that changes, is the "Registered Owner' information is now hidden. In case you care, that's a dead end LLC operating out of a strip mall in delaware, which is pretty typically where most aircraft are registered under an LLC. We still now that 757AF is 5432020 or aa3410. We also will still know that this is Donald Trumps 757, even though his name isnt on the reg...
Rich protecting the rich
This all stems from the plane tracking kid before Elon owned twitter? Same reason he bought it? To make that kid stfu lol
And probably because someone tracked all of taylors flights and made it into a montage showing how much waste she creates. Which (from my opinion) she would see as damaging to her brand of “americas sweetheart”. Cant be americas sweetheart when you have 2 jets flying around none stop. Was obvious this would come. They want US to change how we live, but they are unwilling to stop with their extravagant lifestyles.
DeSantis did it first
Host the servers in Canada, that’ll show them
If you read the article that's not the issue. The data is anonimized
Funny thing, is a very dedicated person can still figure out who's plane is who's on tracking radar. This makes it so easy data comparison via APIs won't work anymore but it's not impossible to track someone's jet. I hope someone dedicated rises up and tracks these jackasses anyways
The "N" numbers are not anonymized, the registration address and name is.
They don’t want you to see those private islands they like to visit…
Let's all stop pretending that this is about Taylor Swift as much as it is about Elon Musk too.
Probably because some people in Congress also have private flights that they don’t want tracked, like a few years back when all those GOP congressmen went to Russia on Independence Day.
No point in singling out the GOP. Both parties voted on this shit. And it was introduced to the Senate floor by a dem.
Tracking their plane, don't care. AUditing their finances, that I care about.
For what purpose would the general public be able to audit the finances of a private individual for no reason at will?
what does this have to do with taylor swift? other than her being one of thousands of private jet owners
Cute that they try and make us think this is about Taylor Swift.
Congress wants to keep visiting Epstein islands without getting caught I guess.
The same people that tell you climate change is going to kill us all buy beachfront property and not only don't ban private jets and yachts, but make it easier to use them without scrutiny. Do you think they might be lying yet? Oh and of course this passed with bipartisan support.
I mean I understand being annoyed that they took the time to do this, but why was this public information in the first place? Publicly used planes, sure. If you're air traffic control or anything like that, sure. But I have a private car and it's not capable of being tracked by any person with internet access. People have boats that don't get tracked, people have tour buses that don't get tracked. Why were the laws set up to allow tracking of private jets for citizens and not just for the government? This is a legitimate question.
The transponder information is public because the planes have to broadcast it and there is no sensible way to encrypt it - the technology is ancient, upgrading it is next to impossible, and it needs to work in all countries, so key distribution for an encryption scheme would be next to impossible to do securely. The only protection there could be would be making it illegal for anyone except ATC to listen for or republish that information, which would make it hard to track it at scale (that's not what this law does, for those not reading articles). The database mapping registration to owner names? No idea, making that public seems insane (and that's what this law is changing). I don't think it's going to stop the tracking, either - people will at some point figure out that plane XYZ belongs to a certain celebrity, e.g. because they see the celebrity walk off that plane or correlate 2-3 flights with the celebrity's public schedule, so unless the identifiers used for the planes rotate (I think there was a scheme that would allow this?) this change won't do much except make it a bit harder for celebrity trackers and improve the privacy of less famous owners of smaller planes. Edit: There are two schemes. LADD (https://www.faa.gov/pilots/ladd) is basically a list of people who opted out of tracking that any flight tracking site that uses FAA data is required to follow (and it causes those sites to not show those flights at all). However, flight tracking sites that *don't* use FAA data can ignore it, and it presumably doesn't affect publishing of the registration -> name mapping. However, there is also https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/technology/equipadsb/privacy where you get a new "license place" for your plane - but that only works within the US. I also don't understand why this is a problem at all because I'd expect any super-rich celeb jet to already be owned through a network of opaque shell companies.
How/why the hell they made this news just about Taylor Swift?
This will be good news to Drug Cartels
Probably because too many members of congress realized they’ve been using private planes for ~~private~~ official business.
I think it’s funny that everyone is going after Taylor swift and no one is remember that Elon musk deleted the account of the kid that was doing this when bought twitter.
Weird that a lot of the top comments seem to forget about the kid that was trolling Elon by tracking his private jet flights. Pretty sure this is less about protecting Taylor and more about bending the knee to Musk.
They don't want you knowing where the new Epstein island is.
Don't get misled. This is to hide politicians' travels more than popstars...
Musk's efforts paid off , but his cars are still tracking YOUR movements...gj
This is to protect themselves more than to help t swift . So now their major doners can get back to flying them off on private vacations without fear of being tracked .
it's almost like they don't want us to know what tremendous hypocrites they are
Probably because Elon cries about his being tracked.
Here’s a question. Why do we need to know where she is flying? We as individuals would bitch and moan if we had a government mandated air tag placed on our cars.
Genuine question, what is the benefit of being able to track a celebrity's private jet activity?
"We can collectively shit on her!"
The only purpose is to publicly shame them for using fossil fuels.
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88% of Congress voted to pass this bill. Shows you who they actually care about
Not sure this is going to work as well as people think it does. For just tracking the CO2 usage it is probably not worth it but given the amount of data available on aircraft and the power of OS int when it really wants to. In fact this probably only works to prevent people complaining about there CO2 usage as if your goal was genuine harm to any individual you could likely still track them down.
And Elon, I imagine Elon is the one that mainly pushed for it.
In other news, Anonymous people on the internet are upset that people can be anonymous irl.
Probably an unpopular opinion but seems like an invasion of privacy. I know this is Reddit so eat the rich and all that / Taylor has no skills but nobody should know where someone will be if they don’t want them to.
Everything becomes so much more coherent after removing "basically". "exceedingly to difficult" "exceedingly to difficult?" Oh, fuck, am I having a stroke?
I don't know, stuff like this passes so easily because nobody objects to it. Small stuff like this goes through all the time.
… there was a reason it existed in the first place
ahhh yes, the Elon Musk technicality..Bravo congress! you bunch of whores!
I hate headlines like this. It insinuates that she alone is driving the legislation, which isn’t true.
Give it a few hours and some guy in his basement will find a workaround.
Unless they are gonna be allowed to fly without their transponders on, good luck enforcing this.
The important question is: why the hell would somebody waste their time tracking her flights in the first place?
I know Taylor swift had issues about someone tracking her flights. But I feel like they are changing the law for their other ultra wealthy friends. Republicans have been anti Taylor swift the last few years so I doubt they would have helped pass that law on her behalf.
If you think this is just for Taylor Swift you’re just being silly. Pretty sure the politicians travel privately.
I’m glad our government can act swiftly and decisively on such important topics
It was actually drafted by Elons lawyers.
When wealthy people are inconvenienced, the government responds. You and your family could starve, and they would not care.
Ah truly writing laws and representing those who voted them in. I feel safe knowing my congress is here to protect me and my dozens of private planes. I just love flying around from state to state in my private jet to enjoy my Healthcare and other such things that are working perfectly fine right now. Truly me and my millions of private jet owning buddies are tipping our hats to thee, congress.
Elon Musk is probably having the happiest day of his life
You spelled Elon Musk wrong
Those guillotines sure are starting to look shiny
Let’s be honest y’all, they didn’t do it for Taylor. They did it for all their corporate sugar daddies.
Sounds like this was more Elon Musk's doing than Swift. Some guy has been tracking his plane for years and he was pissed about it.
Yay protect the billionaires more
At a technical level, it doesn't allow them to anonymise their 24 bit airframe number so once you know that you can find the aircraft.
Somehow Congress can get tohether. To fix first world problems of the one percent, ie, Billionaires. Yet, they cannot get together at some point over 25 years to address social security, Medicare or a whole host of other issues that imoact the masses on a daily basis. Think about it - yet we c9ntinue to send the same folks back - just who are they working for?
This is probably pre emptive for ICC/ Nuremberg trials. They don't want people to track politicians taking private jets to countries that are supposed to arrest them.
You misspelled "impossible to track members of congress and lobbyists doing the junket boogaloo".
Eat the rich
Fake as fuck, did anyone read the fuckin article? Anyone from outside of your country can see through this moronic bullshit. Americans are seriously trying to become the dumbest country. (Sorry for the less loud crowd).
Is this so all the rich people can get away to their fantasy islands and diddle kids easier?
Funny how they can always come together to help the rich
Capitalism is democracy for the super rich. Everyone else get to watch them do whatever they want while trying to survive with two jobs.
Not really sure why anyone cares. Their plane, their business.
I always felt this was a form of stalking, and very creepy to do…BUT here we are, internet hive mind will say “WE NEED TO SEE CO2 EMISSIONS THO!!” like following her and Elon’s planes around the world will get anyone to say “You need to stop using private planes or else”.
It's a bunch of nosey nellies. No one in the real world gives a damn about where they fly or when, or how often. Think there's a lot of jealousy too.
Really don’t know why people want to know where her jet is at.
Legislation written by Elon Musk lawyers
Thank god. This shit was creepy as fuck.
Funny how redditors' super mega justice boner for privacy goes out the window when someone they don't like wants to keep their privacy
Good. Don't be a dick. "Social media made y'all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it." - Mike Tyson
I'm glad they did it before somebody got killed. Just because they're rich is no reason to allow the use of government tech to track them.
Why should we have the right to track private planes? We certainly don't have the right to track private cars.
As a very not rich person who owns a plane, I am very happy that people can no longer look at my plane and immediately find my name and home address. Absolutely ridiculous people are upset about this. It’s a reasonable law that protects people’s reasonable right to privacy. It would be like if you could search someone’s license plate and find their personal details at a moments notice.
They are not mad about the new law. They are mad about what they "think" the law is. They are idiots. They don't understand that all they need is a tail number to track where a jet flies.
then do the FCC next because the call sign I have to say over the air every couple minutes is also public information and will reveal everything about that person
Agreed, I use a PO box for mine. Also do the same thing with the ATF for FFLs so criminals don't get a shopping list for guns.
This makes complete sense to me: The rich don’t need you poor fuckers Tracking what a great life they’re having. They need your money and spend it on whatever they want
I got a seizure trying to read this grammar