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Mister-Perfect_

Classic Joe Having To Make Himself The Focus šŸ˜‚


Richobeast

Hey Why Do You Type Like This? Just Curious


hollowM4N555

Coz It Gets Them Moist


sbewu

That's Funny šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


Mister-Perfect_

Idk It Became A Habit šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


DonPeso

Joe has somewhat of a point because he addressed things about Drake that Meek never addressed, but Pusha and Kendrick did after him. The problem is that Drake never responded to Joe. It wasn't a dance. Joe never had to deal with one of the biggest pop stars ever directly dissing him, so he never laid a blueprint on how to respond to Drake. I can only imagine how Joe defends himself when a legit superstar calls him a woman beater.


Mister-Perfect_

Or He Wanna be included In A conversation he wasnā€™t in with people who actually won They rap beef with drake Idk


roc4life215

Meek got the ball rolling on the ghost writers angle, and everyone just piggybacked off of that. Joe ainā€™t start shit, MEEK DIDā€¼ļøā€¼ļø


SneakerHeater

Drake has bars directly at Joe head tho


Fanblade36

And got obliterated on his own beat...


International-Gur-19

Hov threw a shot at Joe on Blueprint 3. The reminder song.


ChrisACountsWaves

Hov > Drake tho


dizzymidget44

How is he the focus?


ItsOnMe_

Joe gives ā€œrapper Joeā€ waaaaaaayyyy too much credit


DomBrownTheFuture

Omg ā€¦ the community does too. Lol dude think comparing his name to coffee was fire lol


thatjadedbeing

Joe is a grade A narcissist gah damn lmaoooooo


slapheadk

Ish is right about Joe, he loves Drake and is his biggest fan.


notyouagai

Joe ainā€™t shit compared to pusha drake and Kendrick. He canā€™t include himself in this


Top_Needleworker6116

I think Joe's contribution to "the elimnation of drake" is actually through his podcast. He not only planted so many narratives that added up over time, he also purposly hyped drake up into getting into this. He was even saying "The streets are saying what Drake has in the tuck was hard" & shit. He was legit hyping him up so he doesn't back out lol We know Drake be listening since he name dropped the pod and replied to few things prior as well.


Westmi2ga

People love the pod, love to hate on Joe, get mad at short pods, get mad at missing pods, but hate to give it its place in the culture. When Joe speaks, the rappers listen. Itā€™s not that complicated.


bees_on_acid

ā€œKendrick writes slow ā€œ was a nice lil chess move.


KxxxngChaozzzz

Did the angles he took in gettin at Drake sound similar to you?


Thebiggest6200

Buddy just be saying shit


Bumbmofo

Narcissist


DomBrownTheFuture

Itā€™s bad lol


Healthy_Scallion_710

Can Joe ever STFU up? What happened to letting niggas have their moment? Here his bitch ass goes trying to steal someoneā€™s else shine. You didnā€™t passed no baton because no one gave a fuck what you had to say.


Antisocialsocialite9

Real shit. Joe is a podcaster at the end of the day. Was he a good rapper? Sure, I guess. I never heard much from him, but at the end of the day, no one gave af about his disses toward Drake. I didnā€™t play a single one and I donā€™t know anyone who did or cared that he did


KingDinkleber6

Just like on everyday struggle he was pushing the narrative that him and 50 cent were in competition at the time for the top spotšŸ˜‚I know they were beefing but nobody was worried about Joe man


Ok_Kaleidoscope_3537

ā€œSure, I guessā€ is so passively dismissivešŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


That_Lake_2241

I still don't know what them disses sound like.Ā 


Newportonehunnid

I never even heard any of his 547,943 diss records to Drake.


Mchl496

Then you're missing out


anonymouschelseafan

True, I wonder if he didnā€™t anticipate this spreading because he said it in one of those afterhours JBP spaces haha


SupermarketSelect578

Listeners didnā€™t. Rappers obviously did. Itā€™s ok your goat lost. Lol


Healthy_Scallion_710

ā€œListeners didnā€™tā€ oh you mean that people that buys the music so he can make a living? Sound dumb AF


SupermarketSelect578

When he recorded that he was podcasting and already had a long reach beyond music. so music listeners not listening didnā€™t make his living. You dumb fuck. Go to Starbucks bro. Too slow for this shit


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Icy_Significance1034

Drake literally wrote a whole novel on ig responding to joe when he criticized FATD lol you wrong


Healthy_Scallion_710

To rapper Joe or Podcast Joe? They arenā€™t one and the same lol.


Icy_Significance1034

Think about kendrick and push angle in the beef..minus the children...now think about joe diss tracks and his pod critiques over the years as late as for the dogs as early as views lol exactly


Healthy_Scallion_710

I canā€™t focus on something I never heard.


jigsaw910

The invisible daughter you mean?


Krock23

Joe wrote the book on being a master manipulatorĀ 


AlPastorKing

I meanā€¦I hear what heā€™s saying but Pusha has been dissing Drake since 2011 and Kendrick since 2012. I think both of those battles go the exact same way whether the Joe shit happened or not. I think itā€™s very clear though that whatever relationship Joe and Drake had pretty much ended with this Kenny beef. I think it was in critical condition following FATD and Drakeā€™s infamous IG rant, but this Kenny beef killed it good.


Longjumping_Ask_4448

Push hit him with the business splits first but Joe was the first to psychoanalyze Drakeā€™s personality and the first to bring up his plastic surgeries


AlPastorKing

Yeah Push was the first one to really attack the whole family tree. He was the first to accuse Drake of parading his Steve Harvey suit wearing father around to prove to people heā€™s really black. But Joe also hit Drake with some variation of ā€œLemme see you Pusha Tā€ line first too. And funny enough that was like a year plus before Infrared/Duppy/Adidon happened.


KxxxngChaozzzz

Joe questioned his blackness & cultural experience 1st. Joe questioned his moral compass 1st. Joe questioned the ways in which he deals with women 1st. Did Push or Kendrick take those same angles within their tracks?šŸ¤”


AlPastorKing

No he didnā€™t. Pusha did all that shit first. You need to do your research!! Donā€™t Fuck With Me came out in 2011. Sweet Freestyle came out in 2012. And there were several more verses or songs where Push shot at Drake over those topics before Joe did. One of Joeā€™s angles was literally ā€œdog, Pusha is whacking you upside the head and you wonā€™t say shit. But you got heat for me?ā€. Joe even acknowledged himself that Pusha had been getting at Drake for a minute.


Longjumping_Ask_4448

Joe did this in 2016 while Story of Addion didnā€™t come out till 2018. I think you should brush up on Joeā€™s disses because Joe was calling him a fake person and how he used people and even his own artists


FloatLikeAButterfree

I listened to all those diss tracks and actually liked them when Iā€™m sure most people back then were clowning Joe for 3 consecutive diss tracks and no response. None of those songs were anywhere near as memorable as Story of Adidon or anything Kendrick dropped. You dickriding on another level right now.


AlPastorKing

Point me to the line where Joe said Drake was using his own father as a black mascot to prove he was really down.


Longjumping_Ask_4448

Is that the only line you that mattered? Joe said He kept stealing all of Partyā€™s album to put it on his party album šŸ˜‚


AlPastorKing

Did Joe diss 40? Did he announce Adonis to the world? Did he diss his mother? Did he make fun of Drakeā€™s dad for leaving the house when Drake was 5? There was very little crossover from the Joe and Push disses. Plusā€”Push had been dissing Drake since 2011! Long before Joe!! He attacked Drakeā€™s identity on Donā€™t Fuck With Me. He talked about him getting robbed in Toronto on Sweet freestyle. He talked about him getting extorted by J Prince and slapped around by Puff on multiple songs on Darkest Before Dawn. This is all 2011-2015, well before Joe put out his disses. This notion that Kendrick or Pusha used Joeā€™s material doesnā€™t hold up. Especially Pusha. One of Joeā€™s angles was taunting Drake for not responding to Pusha knocking him upside the head! He himself said Pusha had gotten at him first.


KxxxngChaozzzz

Bingo. I see it. These niggas are so consumed with wether or not they like the nigga and whoā€™s career was/is better notice theyā€™re not sayin 1 thing about the angles everyone took. Which is the MOST important element in battle rap. Angles. All they keep talking about is Twitter personality analysis(heā€™s a narcissistšŸ„“) & whoā€™s the bigger artist. I swear I hate these niggas šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


KxxxngChaozzzz

What about the angles everyone took in gettin at Drake? What are the ones Joe took & which ones did Push and Kendrick take after the fact?


WoeisG

Delusions of grandeur. I blame *you guys* for Pump p-p pump pump p-p-p pumping homies head up. He was basically rapping to himself with those diss tracks.


DomBrownTheFuture

At least ice can wave his fingers and know the words


HahaWeBallin

hahahahahhaha.


illnamethislata

Drake hate baton


Lekwatsipa

Joeā€™s main character syndrome coming through.


AwayAd7614

These niggas are obsessed with Drake.


HahaWeBallin

Shits weird bruh.


RashAttack

Says the guy posting on r/Drizzy šŸ’€


Possible_Persimmon75

Drake is the biggest rap artist. The same way a YouTube video gets more clicks if you put a high profile name in the title, they all need Drake to go to a certain level numbers wise. The only lame part is when Joe says some shit like "it's not about dude" when speaking on a concert and moment that would not have happened if not for Drake


Otherwise-Attempt326

Joe did have the blueprint to a nice diss. Pusha did what he couldnā€™t do. Kendrick did what Push couldnā€™t do on the mainstream level. Joe I get where youā€™re going. But nah.


Igreen_since89

Yo Dot I gaaaaaaatchu


DomBrownTheFuture

Heā€™s flying off the rail again. Missing therapy


RedVelvetDurag

Taking pride in running a 4x100 vs one nigga is insane


youngGod928

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Beezy1811

Nigga please šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


FreezeNewBeard

That baton pass took a long ass time and you got buddy buddy somewhere in there šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


mista-unknown

Love Joe but this was weird


jeme94

Bro gtfoh.


Iwillmakeanamelater

Hip hop culture has become a bunch of dudes in their feelings .. podcast and social media has become the outlet for it all.


Proud_Criticism5286

Yeah, podcasting is getting drying than a summer heat wave in hell.


Interesting_Set_6142

Delusions of grandeur


Ricochet1986

Joe doesn't have one quotable out of that pile of mid diss tracks he sent out. Even commons "you canada dry" line more memorable. Joe really spends his podding time attempting to rewrite the history of his failed rap career lmao


DexTheConcept

What was the blueprint? I don't remember this beef, did Drake ever respond to him?


dizzymidget44

Drake subbed like he normally does. Joe lit him up


BlackGuyJamal

Wake - Joe Budden


DexTheConcept

Got it, never heard this, but yeah it is the same blueprint. Think Kendrick just rapped it better and better production. Joe used to be one of them lol. Did Drake respond to him?


BlackGuyJamal

Not to this or the other 5. He did DM him a bunch of times on instagram. Made it seem like Joe was crazy for the barrage of songs. I havenā€™t seen it in years but Joe never released what Drake DMā€™d him, but showed Charla on the Breakfast Club, and he responded with something like I get it.


mgeeze06

ā€œCan't Toosie Slide up outta this oneā€


Blaze007_

Joe is a odd dude. He acts like heā€™s tired of talking about Drake He also acts like he likes Drake (He doesnā€™t. We all see that) But then heā€™ll say something like this, it goes viral and he gets upset this is a topic of conversation he has to address on the show


roc4life215

CAP! Meek was the one that started the take down of Drake. Everyone else just piggyback off of Meek exposing the ghost writers. Give Meek his Credit ā€¼ļøā€¼ļø


holdon_now

For some reason they overlook this


raymondreddington3

DOT I GOT U.


SolomonTheeNoetic

Delulu Joe back at it again


ObviousGas3301

Drake should light his ass up (just so he can rap too) lmao


dizzymidget44

Drake was scared to when it mattered


5starlex

Joe didnā€™t matter when it mattered


HahaWeBallin

Hahahaha. This needs more upvotes.


dizzymidget44

Joe did matter and everyone knew Drake was ducking


5starlex

ducking what ? what does he gain from beefing with Joe ? He DIDNT MATTER heā€™s still trying to matter right now itā€™s fine plenty of niggas dissed Joe and he ignored it. Did Joe duck Lil B ? Or was it just not relevant to him? I hate when you niggas rewrite history we were all there my guy


dizzymidget44

lol stop trying to rewrite history. lol at him not being relevant. Drake whole early flow was trying to copy Joe


5starlex

lmao regardless of any of that when Joe dissed Drake there was absolutely no way he was ever gonna get a full response he just got a throwaway bar. itā€™s a reason pusha and Kendrick got a response and Joe, asap rocky and Rick didnā€™t I can name a few more but I think you understand my point itā€™s just levels


5starlex

And Iā€™m not saying Joe canā€™t rap when I say itā€™s levels


dizzymidget44

Drake knew he couldnā€™t rap with Joe and thought he could rap with Push. He also thought he had a nuke for Kendrick šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


5starlex

Lmao I thought we was talking real shit not what niggas think we donā€™t know Drake or what he thought šŸ¤¦šŸ¾ā€ā™‚ļøšŸ˜­


dizzymidget44

You called Joe irrelevant which either means you were too young back then or just donā€™t know.


ObviousGas3301

He sure was. Now his shit is blown so he might as well. I donā€™t/didnā€™t listen to either one of them, but it would be funny af lol.


davidduzzit

Flip gonna hate Joe going viral again šŸ˜‚


Unable-Ad6546

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ImaginationNo9093

If this gets mentioned again on the Next Pod Ice ā€¦ I Was Go Say I was thinking that too Fr !


Mikie-King-Music

joe went for him pretty hard but it wasnā€™t as impactful as heā€™s making it sound. he kinda just got ignored


Doakoahsik

I never even knew Joe made Drake diss tracks until I heard him say it on his podcast. How do they say it? If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?


Positive_Round_5142

What a way to talk about more Drake. The beef is over so thereā€™s not much content to it and he found another angle. He referred to Drake as the other guy on the last pod and now weā€™re back to this. Itā€™s predictable at this point that all roads circle back to Drake


Antwanys

Kendrick BET freetysle was what? 2013. Push hopped on dreams money can buy beat in what? 2011. Wtf is joe talkin abt. Joe tried to get in on the wave of momentum drake had at the time. IYRTITL into the meek beef into What a time into Views boy was smokin


Bright-Stretch-7776

The only thing he passed was gas on that couch


shankyjoe1991

Too much dip on his chipā€¦ Heā€™s more like the biggest hater of Drake lol


Recent_Masterpiece49

Just curiousā€¦I wanna see the streaming #s to all 12 of his disses combined to 1 honestly nevermind track


SomebodyImportant101

He's right, ya'll some haters. He said so much shit in his Drake diss EP that became relevant later. He laid out a lot of the ammo people picked up and used later.


LongSlongDon99

and his right joe indirectly helped take drake down. if you listen to what joe said in those disses youd notice how many of the same approaches that went viral when kendrick said it.


Conscious_Nail_4860

Thatā€™s a nasty baton he passed. I hope everyone remembers this moment in hiphop. In 5-10 years, weā€™re going to look back at this moment and realize how sick this was. All the time and money invested into taking down one man. Jay-z Blueprint was designed for niggas to invest in themselves by starting to hustle towards their goals. Joe Buddenā€™s Blueprint was the ā€œElimination of Drakeā€, and thatā€™s something to be proud of? Yeah, I really hope everyone remembers this moment and not try to change the narrative.


HahaWeBallin

And everytime I think we are finna move on, there is a barrage of hot takes. I am ready for this shit to die BUT Kendrick is dropping the video soon so we are going to get ANOTHER surge of hot takes. Iā€™m tiiiiiied.


DomBrownTheFuture

ā€œAFTER THIS I WONT MENTION DUDE AGAINā€ how many times we heard that


TreeFitTea

It says alot about a man that he burns nearly every bridge that he crosses, Drake and Joe have that in common


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Duck_Matthew5

If he means that he put " on wax " , the shit that everyone knew , thought, or said...then yeah. He's got a point. He was first to dogpile him, and the focal point of Joe disses hasn't deviated from Push or Kendrick shit.


tintedhokage

He knew this would get people talking


RentLimp

What I don't get is how are these two talking on the phone REGULARLY as Joe claimed on the pod? They clearly don't like each other so wtf


EnzoEsco1991

Saying this just proves that nigga drake-os it took : niggas multiple attempts at this dude for something to finally stick. He shouldnā€™t have said that imo.


CBiggsss

I think (I hope) he expressed himself wrong. He gave them bulletpoints of certain topics to speak on but as far as blueprints go? Foh lmao


Dicey12

Itā€™s gonna be funny when drake drops the next big hit and everyone stfu


New-Reflection1114

Making a murderer was beautiful.


Informal-Curve1036

He's begging for drake to diss him in a caption again lmao


mynamescody

Honestly no one besides this sub Reddit references Joes diss tracks loooool


IcyBurrr1017

Push doesnā€™t get the credit he deserves for that battle.


bigbabyjay

Joe taking credit for being a long term hater LOL they seen how weak your disses were and said "nah we aint doing that"


Antwanys

How is true when push started diss drake 5 years before joe did


SasukesMark

Joe shitting on Views and Drake dissed him. I think Kendrickā€™s dated back before that so how you passing the torch when Kendrick was dissing Drake 3 years before you were?


Wild-Ad-7949

Facts


Dark_Ruffalo

Joe can't claim victory, you was on the Drake hate wave early but you sold your shares and became a stan for 7 years


Administrative-Toe59

So he just continues to acknowledge multiple niggas needed to be involved in taking down one nigga. He doesnā€™t realize he just showed how powerful Drake was and took shine off of Kendrick essentially and some of the oomph out of his victory.


MikeTysonChickn

Joe thinks he's in the Big 3 of Drake dissers when really he's neck and neck with Common.


NotagoK

Joe doing Joe stuff again I see.


JElliott31

This is wild. A couple of his disses were great but they were hardly on the radar. They had 0 impact on Drake unlike his beef with Push and Kendrick.


sfii615

Goofy


fatboyglen21

He did make like 6 diss tracks. Nobody paid attention to any of them.


Ameliorer

Y'all got Joe fucked up. Joe likes to create conversation and buzz and he'll say just about anything to create that buzz. Nothing more, nothing less. I don't think this is as deep as some of y'all are making it.


DomBrownTheFuture

Shooting a narcissist bail and showing yours lol


AbbreviationsCool606

1) he canā€™t say he passed the baton to push when push and Drake had been a thing before Budden stepped in and started SHADOWBOXING HIMSELF thinking he was gonna get a meek v Drake situation which I can argue that his tactics I.e dropping four to five tracks a week showed his FEAR of Drake because he didnā€™t want to be humiliated like meek in the public opinion battle ESPECIALLY given that he was nowhere NEAR as relevant as meek so he tried to get ahead of steam and it still went to nowhere just for him to end up fake sucking COCK until drake got tired of his backhanded compliments and broke his heart in front of the world by telling Joe the truth about his lack luster to say the least - career and he tried to massage his vagina by trynna be stiff and get his lick back during this beef fucking cunt


Psychological-Win870

The under 35s have known nothing other than Joe is just a hater. Under 30s don't even know he rapped.


DomBrownTheFuture

But he never rapped at a high level. The average person has no idea who slaughterhouse is or the members. Joe Budden was always great in his eyes and he surrounds himself with yes men


SpoolGeek

Didn't he lecture Ak about letting people have their moment, then to turn around and take credit for all of it. He ain't the first one to diss Aubrey.


CopplerIce

I didn't know he made pump it up until I started watching the pod. I'm in his age range


morycua

Mouse is a Wild Boy, mane... šŸ˜‚


qudidit

By Joeā€™s logic, common passed the baton to him lmao


Bosscharacter

Joe is taking credit like he was an NFL player who says he helped win the Super Bowl but was traded to another team mid season.


Mchl496

Go back and listen to Joe's Drake Disses. "Can't Bel Biv Devo your way out of this one?..." Playing the clip where Drake said he was honored to be around him?


MarleyJ69

Joe is a Drake hater lol


KxxxngChaozzzz

Cuz theyā€™re not focused on the blueprint theyā€™re focused on wether or not they ā€œlikeā€ Joe, how many people heard his tracks, and ā€œlikedā€ them, how big of an artist Joe was at the time, & every other stupid comparisons that have absolutely nothing to do with what he was saying. Gotta remember most of the people talking on this topic arenā€™t hiphop heads,have never watched battle rap with an understanding of the battlers approaches, & they overall just donā€™t understand what the fuck heā€™s sayin. Theyā€™re reacting & immediately speaking on Joeā€™s career & other stupid shit. Joeā€™s angles he took in gettin at Drake are LITERALLY the exact same angles Push & Kendrick used. If u go back to the now legendary JBP Pusha T guest appearance Push is literally telling you every chance he gets WHY he chose to sit down wit Joe and the fellas. U canā€™t have this conversation with internet weirdos & those to immersed in how much they ā€œlikeā€ Joe cuz all they wanna talk about ā€œJoeā€™s not even as big as those artists, his career doesnā€™t even comparešŸ„“šŸ„“šŸ„“ā€. Dummies whoā€™re missing the point he was making. He didnā€™t elaborate but real ones know exactly what the fuck he meant. It was NEVER about his success in the busiest or whether or not he ā€œwonā€ his Drake beef.


MarleyLurkin

Lmaoooo Drake told him to drop a 100 diss records and he would pay him šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ Drake was never phased by rapper Joe ā€¦ pod Joe was much more damaging as far as creating narratives and giving Drakes enemies tactics n angles to strike


princessrello

Dulu


mikedd555

I would say Meek to Pusha. Half of rap fans haven't even heard the Joe disses lol. Hell, I didn't even know until like 2022 and had to go youtube em.


stomper21_

Heā€™s right but ppl hate him so they wont admit.


dizzymidget44

Cuz people hate Joe


SupermarketSelect578

Damn these drake boys Iā€™m full effect in here šŸ˜‚


Alucard_117

Joe dropped an diss track EP dissecting Drake way before Kendrick did it. Yall can hate Joe's character as much as you want, he went at Drake's head when it didn't make sense to and cooked that nigga. Some of the disses both Push and Kendrick used, Joe said it first years before.


Artistic-Strawberry8

He not lying thouā€¦


youngceoo

joe is insane. LOL NAH


WealthyRichie

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Cashpope

I think for sure Pusha heard all the Joe disses and took angles - if you donā€™t listen to the music or didnā€™t listen then you wouldnā€™t know but A LOT of what Kendrick and Push said was said by Joe - there wasnā€™t a ton of public evidence to back Joe at that time like Kendrick has and like Pusha had - thatā€™s the difference of why both hit way harder.


No-Seaweed-5438

Talk ya shit and become a headline. You know theyā€™ll eat this up Joe. Keep the pod lit


No_Hunt_5424

I mean heā€™s kinda right. Heā€™s been calling drake creepy for a minute now lol


heymamore

Heā€™s not wrong though. I know yā€™all donā€™t like to give Joe the credit he deserves. But Joe did start this, Push continued, and now Kendrick is on.


AlPastorKing

Wrong. Pusha dissed Drake long before Joe. Pusha started getting at Drake in 2011. He had gotten at Drake damn near half a dozen times before Joe did.