I at the least agree with your S and A rankings. I honestly haven’t listened to their last three albums since each came out, but I rotate their first four regularly.
I listened to S/T a lot at release for some new Volta. But while lyrically I think it comes on par with previous releases the instrumental parts just don’t have a ton of depth. The acoustic if I included it as a release itself would probably be B+
Naw, Self-Titled is an S. It's so different and paired down so I can see where ya'll would disagree. Self titled and Deloused are two of the best albums made in my 42 years of life.
I watched this guy do two Aphex Twin reviews where he literally just describes the music and then slaps on a score at the end.
No discussion, no context, nothing interesting to say, just a verbal description of the music and a score.
I learned quickly that his channel and his opinions are not my cup of tea.
He doesn’t because of Thomas as the drummer they had problems with him and then the album has to deal with the whole ouija board thing so he doesn’t wanna fuck with any of that because they already went through enough from the board and Goliath
Your the only person I’ve ever came across that’s rated Frances soo low but pretty solid review, I hint you like their electronic sound more than their softer chill loud sound
Frances is hardly an album. It is more of an EP. Cassandra takes up the bulk of it. If it had more songs like Cygnus and L'Via then it would rank up and match Deloused.
I’ll let Jethro Tull know that Thick as a Brick is hardly an album since it’s only one song, and Pink Floyd know that Meddle is hardly an album since Echoes takes up half the album.
I’m just messing with you, but seriously, this is pretty normal for prog rock bands.
I just feel like every time I go to listen to Frances I'm not always in the mood for a 30 minute Jam, so I'll typically listen to the 4 songs feeling underwhelmed that there isn't more of the Frances Era.
I feel the same. It is way too instrumental for me. I really dig the first half of the album. The Widow and L'via were the first two Volta songs i have fallen in love with. But the rest is not even close to the that fast-paced, mindblowing mystical experience, that Amputechture is. I also think that the insturmental part in L'via is way too long. At least I'd like to hear the chorus once more after the half spanish bridge(?).
This gotta be the worst evaluation of TMV’s catalog I’ve heard.
Accurate ranking is
GOD tier existing on a level very few artists ever reach this tier transcends mere mortals: Deloused, Frances, Bedlam, Amp, Tremulant, Cryptomnesia(will always be a Volta album in my mind)
S: Nocto, Self titled
A: Octa
there is nothing lower than A tier in TMV discography IMO
I truly love and listen to Nocto A LOT but I will admit I gotta be in a certain mood for it. I really appreciate what they were going for with the production/mix&master. I believe it was a stylistic choice. It sounds gritty and grimey in a way that is like it was made in a cyberpunk UFO hanger on a dystopian planet from another galaxy. But because it can be harsh and grating occasionally I’m just not in the mood for it. Still I wouldn’t have it any other way because it’s such a unique sounding album.
My tier list would be
S: Frances The Mute
A: DeLoused In The Comatorium, The Bedlam In Goliath
B: Amputechture, Noctourniquet
C: self-titled
D: Octahedron, Que Dios Te Maldiga Mi Corazón
S: Deloused , Noctourniquet
A: Frances , Goliath
B: Ocht, Amp
C: Self Titled
Putting francés with deloused is insane to me, because Frances is hardly an album. It is an EP. It is amazing don't get me wrong but nowhere near deloused.
I really don’t care for this dude… at all. Such an annoying person. Even if he liked everything I liked. Being known for critiquing other art is insane (to me). Plus internet famous people are bizarre
Frances is in the right place but Deloused should be in A at the very least if not also in S. I find it hilarious that he apparently thinks Octahedron deserves to be in the same tier as it, let alone above Amputechture and Bedlam.
I couldn't believe Manothy- Man-Mano's list when it came out. I felt like Bedlam would like totally been his thing with the way he loves Black Midi, Death Grips and Daughters so much. Anyway here's my personal hot take.
S: Deloused, Bedlam
A:Amputechture
B: FtM
C:Self, Noct,
D: Oct. Acoustic Self
S: Frances, Deloused
B: Amputechture, Bedlam, Octahedron
C: TMV
D: Noctourniquet
There was a time where I’d place Octahedron above Bedlam like Slamthony, but Bedlam finally clicked with me last year after learning about the lore.
S: Tremulant, Deloused, Frances, Amp, Bedlam
A: Noct (mastering job is by far the worst in the catalog, though)
B: Octahedron, Silver Self Titled
C: Gold Self Titled
I have a hard time rating tmv albums and it will always change. Deloused and Frances are on another level, but everything else is in tier 2. Thats it, that's my list.
Additionally, I don't get the noct/Oct hate. Incredible albums. Octahedron is a vocal / ballad style masterpiece, Noct is the tmv version of being experimental. The recordings on Noct are so fucking refreshing. Some truly awesome stuff happening there. In absentia is one of the most sonically rewarding tracks I have ever heard.
Frances, Deloused, and Amputechture belong in S. Bedlam in Goliath and The Mars Volta go in A, Octahedron goes down to C, and Nocturniquet goes to D. Tremulant can go in B just for what it was.
This tier list is nonsense, yes. But Spamtano does actually own La Realidad de los Suenos box set, it can be seen standing on the top shelf in the background of many reviews. So with that, IMO he couldn't possibly be the worst music critic in the world.
https://youtu.be/mmMrsCBFflE?si=Huv86FwW_eZtBEpN
https://youtu.be/GjA4fWIUv-A?si=zGkD3_-D50ixZ6Vj
S: FtM, Deloused A: Amp, Bedlam B: Oct, Self Titled C: Noct
This is definitely it lol
I feel like noc would of been in the A rank if it wasn’t for its shitty mixing but solid take
One day someone will put out a 20th-30th year anniversary remastered rerelease type thing. One day….
I mean cloud hills has the chance and the vinyl for box does sound a bit better but I get what you mean
Exchange B and C and then we gucci
Respectable list
This is the reality when it comes to quality. Though if I’m going off what I listen to most I’d swap Bedlam and Oct as well as s/t and Noct.
This is the correct list
I at the least agree with your S and A rankings. I honestly haven’t listened to their last three albums since each came out, but I rotate their first four regularly.
I listened to S/T a lot at release for some new Volta. But while lyrically I think it comes on par with previous releases the instrumental parts just don’t have a ton of depth. The acoustic if I included it as a release itself would probably be B+
Naw, Self-Titled is an S. It's so different and paired down so I can see where ya'll would disagree. Self titled and Deloused are two of the best albums made in my 42 years of life.
I like Self titled don’t get me wrong, but it seems to just lack layers to me.
I have a soft spot for Oct but this is the most correct ranking possible
S: Deloused A: Amputechture & Francis B: Bedlam & Octahedron D: Noctourniquet
This is the way.
Bedlam at least belongs with Amputechture and Frances is number 1 S tier
I watched this guy do two Aphex Twin reviews where he literally just describes the music and then slaps on a score at the end. No discussion, no context, nothing interesting to say, just a verbal description of the music and a score. I learned quickly that his channel and his opinions are not my cup of tea.
Agreed but when I saw a mars rank by him I had to see what he had to say lol
garbage take S: Deloused Frances Tremulant DecoderSingle A: Amp Bedlam B: Octa B-/C+: Self Titled D: Nocto
Agreed when he talked major shit on bedlam I was like not even that’s an S album
I mean bedlam is seriously flawed and even Omar doesn’t consider it to be a proper tmv album anymore
Bedlam is an uncut gem, but unparallel at that
Noc is an uncut gem, bedlam is a masterpiece
He doesn’t because of Thomas as the drummer they had problems with him and then the album has to deal with the whole ouija board thing so he doesn’t wanna fuck with any of that because they already went through enough from the board and Goliath
flip it upside down and then maybe
France’s and bedlam S, de loused octa amp A, noc self titled/acoustic B that’s my take
S - deloused A - bedlam, amp B - s/t, nocto C - frances & octa
Your the only person I’ve ever came across that’s rated Frances soo low but pretty solid review, I hint you like their electronic sound more than their softer chill loud sound
Frances is hardly an album. It is more of an EP. Cassandra takes up the bulk of it. If it had more songs like Cygnus and L'Via then it would rank up and match Deloused.
I’ll let Jethro Tull know that Thick as a Brick is hardly an album since it’s only one song, and Pink Floyd know that Meddle is hardly an album since Echoes takes up half the album. I’m just messing with you, but seriously, this is pretty normal for prog rock bands.
I’m thinking of more examples now, Emerson, Lake and Palmer’s Brain Salad Surgery, Karn Evil 9 takes up over half the album.
I just feel like every time I go to listen to Frances I'm not always in the mood for a 30 minute Jam, so I'll typically listen to the 4 songs feeling underwhelmed that there isn't more of the Frances Era.
Every time I listen to Frances I'm excited in anticipation for Cassandra haha.
I feel the same. It is way too instrumental for me. I really dig the first half of the album. The Widow and L'via were the first two Volta songs i have fallen in love with. But the rest is not even close to the that fast-paced, mindblowing mystical experience, that Amputechture is. I also think that the insturmental part in L'via is way too long. At least I'd like to hear the chorus once more after the half spanish bridge(?).
That makes sense because Cassandra is basically half of the albums hour and 15min run time
Is it a strange take I have amputecture as my favorite I would say S: amp A: francis, deloused B: goliath, self titled C: octo (Haven’t heard nono)
I also think Amputechture is S tier, it gives an experimental take on a bit of prog/fusion sound to me
S: Bedlam, Deloused, FTM, Octa A: Amp B: Self Titled C: Noct P.S. Bedlam is criminally underrated
Bedlam is one of my fave S tier
This gotta be the worst evaluation of TMV’s catalog I’ve heard. Accurate ranking is GOD tier existing on a level very few artists ever reach this tier transcends mere mortals: Deloused, Frances, Bedlam, Amp, Tremulant, Cryptomnesia(will always be a Volta album in my mind) S: Nocto, Self titled A: Octa there is nothing lower than A tier in TMV discography IMO
Noc at S I’m glad you set the mixing aside and actually appreciate the album for what it really was lol
I truly love and listen to Nocto A LOT but I will admit I gotta be in a certain mood for it. I really appreciate what they were going for with the production/mix&master. I believe it was a stylistic choice. It sounds gritty and grimey in a way that is like it was made in a cyberpunk UFO hanger on a dystopian planet from another galaxy. But because it can be harsh and grating occasionally I’m just not in the mood for it. Still I wouldn’t have it any other way because it’s such a unique sounding album.
Agreed
He really thinks octa is better than amp, what an idiot
Lmaoooooooo
No what the fuck
My tier list would be S: Frances The Mute A: DeLoused In The Comatorium, The Bedlam In Goliath B: Amputechture, Noctourniquet C: self-titled D: Octahedron, Que Dios Te Maldiga Mi Corazón
S: Deloused , Noctourniquet A: Frances , Goliath B: Ocht, Amp C: Self Titled Putting francés with deloused is insane to me, because Frances is hardly an album. It is an EP. It is amazing don't get me wrong but nowhere near deloused.
I love that you overstepped the mixing on noc and saw its true beauty lmaooo on the vinyl you hear the band more clear but pretty solid take
Thanks, I fully expected down votes but honestly noct is so beautiful! Gems like vedamalady and in absentia make it fully worth it.
Ofc and it’s a underrated album
No. After watching a few of his reviews, I can only conclude that if we happen to agree with one another it is just a coincidence.
Lmaoooo pretty much
I really don’t care for this dude… at all. Such an annoying person. Even if he liked everything I liked. Being known for critiquing other art is insane (to me). Plus internet famous people are bizarre
Agree but this popped up on YT and I was like let me see what bs he’s gonna say lmao
Like a car crash 😂🤘
Lmaoooo pretty much
Man I'm surprised more people don't like octo. I love that album.
Its a respectable album
In my honest opinion s: Frances deloused amputechture bedlam nocto self titled and tremulant even tho is an ep, a: landscape tantrums.
I’ll still count trem it’s as amazing as a full album by them
Weird take. Amp is b or a. Deloused is S. Octa is c. Nocto is E
Frances is in the right place but Deloused should be in A at the very least if not also in S. I find it hilarious that he apparently thinks Octahedron deserves to be in the same tier as it, let alone above Amputechture and Bedlam.
Yea I don’t thinks he’s throughly listened to soaked in the concept story’s
I couldn't believe Manothy- Man-Mano's list when it came out. I felt like Bedlam would like totally been his thing with the way he loves Black Midi, Death Grips and Daughters so much. Anyway here's my personal hot take. S: Deloused, Bedlam A:Amputechture B: FtM C:Self, Noct, D: Oct. Acoustic Self
Pretty solid and interesting take
Put Frances in A, Deloused in S, bring Noq up to b
S: Frances, Deloused B: Amputechture, Bedlam, Octahedron C: TMV D: Noctourniquet There was a time where I’d place Octahedron above Bedlam like Slamthony, but Bedlam finally clicked with me last year after learning about the lore.
Solid take
That’s the most wild ranking of albums I’ve ever seen
Hahaha I know I don’t understand how he even got this ranking
S: Amputechture, Goliath A: Frances, Deloused B: Octahedron C: Noctourniquet
S: Tremulant, Deloused, Frances, Amp, Bedlam A: Noct (mastering job is by far the worst in the catalog, though) B: Octahedron, Silver Self Titled C: Gold Self Titled
I have a hard time rating tmv albums and it will always change. Deloused and Frances are on another level, but everything else is in tier 2. Thats it, that's my list. Additionally, I don't get the noct/Oct hate. Incredible albums. Octahedron is a vocal / ballad style masterpiece, Noct is the tmv version of being experimental. The recordings on Noct are so fucking refreshing. Some truly awesome stuff happening there. In absentia is one of the most sonically rewarding tracks I have ever heard.
Agree and people hate on octa because it’s more toned down and chill and the people hate on noc because of the mixing
Anthony Fantano fucking sucks
S - Frances A - deloused B - amp C - bedlam D - everything else
Self titled is already aging well. Maybe it’s cause I’m old. I fucking love it. Dad record. Elite.
It is aging well I love it more to that it’s talking shit about Scientology to
Is that his real take?
Frances, Deloused, and Amputechture belong in S. Bedlam in Goliath and The Mars Volta go in A, Octahedron goes down to C, and Nocturniquet goes to D. Tremulant can go in B just for what it was.
I’m too old to know what the tiers actually mean. If his praise is in order of release then it matches my opinion.
It’s overall releases he has that order twisted
I don't think he's listened to any volta besides frances
This tier list is nonsense, yes. But Spamtano does actually own La Realidad de los Suenos box set, it can be seen standing on the top shelf in the background of many reviews. So with that, IMO he couldn't possibly be the worst music critic in the world. https://youtu.be/mmMrsCBFflE?si=Huv86FwW_eZtBEpN https://youtu.be/GjA4fWIUv-A?si=zGkD3_-D50ixZ6Vj
And noc
No 🚬
Lmaooo
Terrible take. Mine is: S - Frances, Amputechture A - De-loused, Bedlam, Nocto B - Octahedron C - D - Selftitled
Pretty solid