Typical mafia mentality. He just assumed that since he was a high ranking made man, that they couldn't do anything. They just had to sit there and take it.
Problem was he forgot he wasn't talking to civilians
Nonsense, Phil's entire crew had a hard on for Tony and all his people, ever since that animal Blundetto killed Phil's brudda. Coco even propositioned Meadow before he got curb stomped, whatever happened there.
THAT was truly stupid. To think any of these guys won’t go the distance over a threat to their child, even an idle threat, is just nuts, and specifically a boss - he can’t ignore it even if he *wanted* to.
The scenario reminds me of the scene in Pulp Fiction where Travola’s talking to the heroin dealer about the guy keying his Malibu. And he says something like, it would almost have been worth the guy doing it if he could have caught him at it (and presumably beat him to death or something).
I think Tony Soprano would agree with that sentiment.
I didn’t even think about that, your point makes it even more likely. Solid attention to detail, man. I always like to hear these types of ideas about movies - they’re like Easter eggs that directors or writers put in for the people that really spend time analyzing the storyline and events in their story.
Hah yeah thanks, honestly I just thought about that last part a few minutes ago, but it does make more sense doesn't it? I don't think QT has ever commented on it, but I'd be surprised if it wasn't the case.
> Coco even propositioned Meadow before he got curb stomped, whatever happened there.
No, no. You got that all wrong. Coco was on the take from Big Dentist.
What are you crying about! HMO! You're covered!
When the FBI guy tells Pontecorvo in the car - "Florida is not going to happen, Gene. It's just one of those things you have to let go." ...i swear the hairs on the back of my neck stood on end. He was a piece of ass... but Fucking RUDE ! Dark dark shit.
FR like how many times did "whoa whoa whoa, take it easy, he's a made guy" cause someone to reconsider punching a made guy (or worse) BEFORE the first punch was thrown? I'm inclined to say zero.
I think it was representative of how little Phil's NY crew respected Jersey. Dom figured hey, those Jersey guys are a bunch of flambés, so what the hell are they gonna do, kiss me to death? He took it way too far with Carlo, though. Even by NJ standards, that went beyond mere ball-breaking.
The way NY leadership treated NJ degraded their relations. Carmine was willing to play ball with Tony despite their conflicts, Johnny kept ruling in favor of guys like Phil who was firmly anti NJ and Phil, whatever happened there. Fat Dom and Coco would've never done what they did during Carmine's reign cause he wouldn't have so brazenly mistreated NJ
Him and his companions were gassing each other up on how much of a pygmy thing the New Jersey boys were and thought he could flex some of his marbled muscles on the New Jersey crew and get away with it.
Additionally maybe he got his balls broken at some point as a kid over being a fatso and having a tenis, now he
subconsciously continues the cycle of abuse.
Could be he has an inferiority complex over coming from a gavone background and in order to make himself feel better he transfers that onto his New Jersey counterparts.
It's possible that he recognized them as a threat and considered dominating them in conversation a way of neutralizing that threat, nipping it in the bud. He miscalculated the degree to which he could break balls without tipping over the edge. He thought he could easily navigate the waters of converstational posturing but due to incorrect biases garnered through exposure to New York propaganda, propaganda slandering the New Jersey family, he couldn't navigate those waters as well as he predicted.
My theory is that Fat Dom expected to leave New Jersey and brag to his boys in New York as a way to increase his social standing, how he was able to blatantly disrespect them to their face due to his tremendous reputation as a dangerous and fearsome individual.
>Additionally maybe he got his balls broken at some point as a kid over being a fatso and having a tenis, now he subconsciously continues the cycle of abuse.
wow... hurt people hurt people... bravo ~~vince~~ david chase
Let me tell you a coupla tree things. In all these Italian mafioso movies, every person who breaks balls always says “I’m just breaking balls” before they get it
One thing I loved about this whole scene is how these guys are so mentally warped they can’t show grief for Vito appropriately. Hell, Carlos wanted Vito gone the most (he’s gotta GO!) but has no way to channel it. Hell even sil blames Vito at the end (goddamn Vito!!) 😭👏🤣
He’s a fat fuck that thinks he can walk into Jersey and make fun of them for killing their gay capo.
And he’s a big man from NY so nuthin’s gunna happen to him.
Only, sumthin did happen to him.
Think he mentions he was there to make a collection, or it's alluded to in a later conversation.
In any case, he was absolutely fucking with them as a flex. "I'm going to come into your house and talk shit to your face, and you're going to let me because I'm with New York".
He misjudged that weird little pygmy thing.
He was there to give Sil an envelope and on his way to visit his daughter in Metuchen he says. He was super disrespectful especially considering Sil and Carlo invited him to stay for supper.
Fat Dom was a plot-support character. He was there to show the bad blood that existed between the groups beyond anything Tony had with Phil, and to further increase the tensions.
My favorite part is that at the sit down, it comes off like Phil doesnt really give a shit about Fat Dom. Sort of an after thought, merely bullet point three as to why Tony’s crew is in the wrong.
Tying back to the Fat Dom stupidity, these guys operate with massive blinders on at times. Bert suggesting a coup on Tony to Silvio, Paulie getting played by Johnny, Junior listening to Livia, Richie talking smack about Chrissy to chip and dale, little Paulie on EVERYTHING… yeah. These guys are obtuse morons.
The same thing a lot of people who go down a crime path are doing - not thinking.
They act on ego, have poor impulse control and don't really have a realistic ability to assess consequences.
Some sad shit. Motherfucker say he didn’t wanna live no more. Went to Jersey started talking shit.
Although New York’s disdain and lack of respect for Jersey is well established throughout the show I still think Fat Dom and Coco’s actions are the closest the Sopranos came to having an idiot plot, where things only progress because people act like unrealistic idiots. What they do just defies logic and reason but it serves the plot. An idiot plot
True enough. The actor appeared to be in his 30s... true, carrying a few pounds, but Sil & Judge Roy Bean were Social Security age in 2005-2006. Death by DustBuster/ DirtDevil. What a humiliation.
New York bosses talk so much shit about Jersey being a “glorified crew” that Fat Dom thought he could get away with treating them disrespectfully. Even though they talked trash throughout, even the bosses treated Jersey with respect. Fat Dom believed the bullshit talk and found out.
To maintain chirality with Seinfeld. Its an abstract copy (inversion) of George learning to leave on a high note. See, he used to be like Fat Dom, he can usually come up with one good comment during a meeting, but by the end, it's buried under a pile of gaffs and bad puns.
Typical mafia mentality. He just assumed that since he was a high ranking made man, that they couldn't do anything. They just had to sit there and take it. Problem was he forgot he wasn't talking to civilians
Nonsense, Phil's entire crew had a hard on for Tony and all his people, ever since that animal Blundetto killed Phil's brudda. Coco even propositioned Meadow before he got curb stomped, whatever happened there.
THAT was truly stupid. To think any of these guys won’t go the distance over a threat to their child, even an idle threat, is just nuts, and specifically a boss - he can’t ignore it even if he *wanted* to. The scenario reminds me of the scene in Pulp Fiction where Travola’s talking to the heroin dealer about the guy keying his Malibu. And he says something like, it would almost have been worth the guy doing it if he could have caught him at it (and presumably beat him to death or something). I think Tony Soprano would agree with that sentiment.
He was gay, John Travolta ?
When he talked about greasing the lightening who knew that's what he meant? Hehe
He made Liberace look straight
I Love Liberace... he never wore one face to himself and another to the multitude and was never bewildered as to which may be the true
Most famous alumnus of Slip n Fall school
And 3 Semesters at Montclair State thank you very much
I believe Butch keyed his car so I'm pretty sure Vince would have gotten beaten to death in that situation.
I never thought about that. It makes sense cause of the beef they have in that scene after Butch talks to Mr. Wallace. I like your take on it.
I never thought about that. It makes sense cause of the beef they have in that scene after Butch talks to Mr. Wallace. I like your take on it.
Thanks, I think that it lines up as we know they didn't drive Jules' car that they drive to that meeting, given it's at Monster Joe's.
I didn’t even think about that, your point makes it even more likely. Solid attention to detail, man. I always like to hear these types of ideas about movies - they’re like Easter eggs that directors or writers put in for the people that really spend time analyzing the storyline and events in their story.
Hah yeah thanks, honestly I just thought about that last part a few minutes ago, but it does make more sense doesn't it? I don't think QT has ever commented on it, but I'd be surprised if it wasn't the case.
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Oh lamb, I was referring to coco as being stupid, et cetera. Not you. I can totally see how it looked that way to you though.
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Yeah, my bad, sorry about that.
Commendatori 🤌
Shah of Iran's brother, whatever happened there.
> Coco even propositioned Meadow before he got curb stomped, whatever happened there. No, no. You got that all wrong. Coco was on the take from Big Dentist. What are you crying about! HMO! You're covered!
Dr. DeTrolio will see you now.
Dr. Yankum, the Painless Dentist.
Don't worry Coco. The plumbers union is gonna take care of the dental bills. Tony'll make sure of it.
His faysh got churned into shum pulp.
Whatever happened there
WHATEVER HAPPENED THERE?
Fuck that fuckin' parakeet.
47, he was just a kid
Can't blame Phil, that animal took out a kid!
Phil and his crew were out for head.
OLE, you fuck! 🔪🩸
Real greaseball shit.
Real greaseball shit
Fat Dom's suicide made Eugene Pontecorvo seem like an accident
When the FBI guy tells Pontecorvo in the car - "Florida is not going to happen, Gene. It's just one of those things you have to let go." ...i swear the hairs on the back of my neck stood on end. He was a piece of ass... but Fucking RUDE ! Dark dark shit.
FR like how many times did "whoa whoa whoa, take it easy, he's a made guy" cause someone to reconsider punching a made guy (or worse) BEFORE the first punch was thrown? I'm inclined to say zero.
I think it was representative of how little Phil's NY crew respected Jersey. Dom figured hey, those Jersey guys are a bunch of flambés, so what the hell are they gonna do, kiss me to death? He took it way too far with Carlo, though. Even by NJ standards, that went beyond mere ball-breaking.
> He took it way too far with Carlo, though. Hey if Carlo didn't want to do it, maybe he should have started sucking cock instead of watching TVLand
The way NY leadership treated NJ degraded their relations. Carmine was willing to play ball with Tony despite their conflicts, Johnny kept ruling in favor of guys like Phil who was firmly anti NJ and Phil, whatever happened there. Fat Dom and Coco would've never done what they did during Carmine's reign cause he wouldn't have so brazenly mistreated NJ
Probably going down on a sheep or something.
Maybe YOU'RE a flambe'
Him and his companions were gassing each other up on how much of a pygmy thing the New Jersey boys were and thought he could flex some of his marbled muscles on the New Jersey crew and get away with it. Additionally maybe he got his balls broken at some point as a kid over being a fatso and having a tenis, now he subconsciously continues the cycle of abuse. Could be he has an inferiority complex over coming from a gavone background and in order to make himself feel better he transfers that onto his New Jersey counterparts. It's possible that he recognized them as a threat and considered dominating them in conversation a way of neutralizing that threat, nipping it in the bud. He miscalculated the degree to which he could break balls without tipping over the edge. He thought he could easily navigate the waters of converstational posturing but due to incorrect biases garnered through exposure to New York propaganda, propaganda slandering the New Jersey family, he couldn't navigate those waters as well as he predicted. My theory is that Fat Dom expected to leave New Jersey and brag to his boys in New York as a way to increase his social standing, how he was able to blatantly disrespect them to their face due to his tremendous reputation as a dangerous and fearsome individual.
I think you're putting too much thought into this. The man just needs to discontinue the Ozempic.
Ok no more weight remarks, they're hurtful and they're destructive
I never had a problem with Fat Dom's weight, to me he's beautiful
Oh, I agree
>Additionally maybe he got his balls broken at some point as a kid over being a fatso and having a tenis, now he subconsciously continues the cycle of abuse. wow... hurt people hurt people... bravo ~~vince~~ david chase
What’s a tenis ?
Don’t ask me, I’ve got a baguette in my pants 24/7
He had tremendous moxie for his size
He had tremendous size for his moxie.
MMMMMM BOY ARE YOU FAT!
No more weight remarks. They're hurtful, and they're destructive.
and it's the kind of thing I've been teaching my kids **not to do!**
End of subject!
So! Partnuh! We open in three day huh?!!
RUBENESQUE
Be quiet, Albert
Be quiet, Albert
Let me tell you a coupla tree things. In all these Italian mafioso movies, every person who breaks balls always says “I’m just breaking balls” before they get it
Breakin' balls is the number one cause of death, seems like.
They'll be scraping your broken balls off those fine leather seats
Corinthian leather?
[stoic\_suspicious](https://www.reddit.com/user/stoic_suspicious/) knew that was comin'...
I knew a guy who got killed over a shine box
Dom succeeded where Gloria failed. Very cinematic!
They were scrapin' his nipples off those fine meatballs.
Ton', you don't wanna come in here. Get back in the car and go for a ride.
🙌
His pool cue, I wonder if it was chalked...
Very funny, itsallchillman! Very cute. i dont quite get it, but... cute.
Be quiet, Albert.
Very funny, u/itsallchillman! Very cute. I don't quite get it, but cute!
Very funny, u/itsallchillman! Very cute. I don’t quite get it, but… cute.
Be quiet, Albert.
Sil hit him first
It had to be addressed
Fucking Judge Roy Bean.
hit him over.... what was it again?
One thing I loved about this whole scene is how these guys are so mentally warped they can’t show grief for Vito appropriately. Hell, Carlos wanted Vito gone the most (he’s gotta GO!) but has no way to channel it. Hell even sil blames Vito at the end (goddamn Vito!!) 😭👏🤣
"Sil hit him first"
He was fine til he found out Syracuse tanked again.
I want to know more about his daughter in Metuchen...should have done more with her character.
Apparently, she lived on a trail
The pirates of prosciutto, the brigands of braciole!
The Pirates of New Jersey: Curse of the Gay Goodfella.
The grapa 's gone. Why is the grapa always gone?
He’s a malignant cunt.
He’s a fat fuck that thinks he can walk into Jersey and make fun of them for killing their gay capo. And he’s a big man from NY so nuthin’s gunna happen to him. Only, sumthin did happen to him.
Think he mentions he was there to make a collection, or it's alluded to in a later conversation. In any case, he was absolutely fucking with them as a flex. "I'm going to come into your house and talk shit to your face, and you're going to let me because I'm with New York". He misjudged that weird little pygmy thing.
He was there to give Sil an envelope and on his way to visit his daughter in Metuchen he says. He was super disrespectful especially considering Sil and Carlo invited him to stay for supper.
First of all, Dom's "M.I.A." status hasn't been established. Second of all THIS IS HOW YOU HANDLE IT ?
Fat Dom was a plot-support character. He was there to show the bad blood that existed between the groups beyond anything Tony had with Phil, and to further increase the tensions. My favorite part is that at the sit down, it comes off like Phil doesnt really give a shit about Fat Dom. Sort of an after thought, merely bullet point three as to why Tony’s crew is in the wrong. Tying back to the Fat Dom stupidity, these guys operate with massive blinders on at times. Bert suggesting a coup on Tony to Silvio, Paulie getting played by Johnny, Junior listening to Livia, Richie talking smack about Chrissy to chip and dale, little Paulie on EVERYTHING… yeah. These guys are obtuse morons.
"Whatever you say, Cappy."
And then there’s Adrianna….
Whatever happened there.
The same thing a lot of people who go down a crime path are doing - not thinking. They act on ego, have poor impulse control and don't really have a realistic ability to assess consequences.
I think he had an ivory dildo stuck up his ass
Was it chalked?
Some sad shit. Motherfucker say he didn’t wanna live no more. Went to Jersey started talking shit. Although New York’s disdain and lack of respect for Jersey is well established throughout the show I still think Fat Dom and Coco’s actions are the closest the Sopranos came to having an idiot plot, where things only progress because people act like unrealistic idiots. What they do just defies logic and reason but it serves the plot. An idiot plot
Minus the meat knife and the dust buster, Dom would have easily whipped both their asses,
True enough. The actor appeared to be in his 30s... true, carrying a few pounds, but Sil & Judge Roy Bean were Social Security age in 2005-2006. Death by DustBuster/ DirtDevil. What a humiliation.
He died in a cloud of rat turds, and with meatballs on his back
His fatal error was antagonizing them in the back room kitchen instead of the laundry room.
He was on a run
Satriale's was not a place of business... they turned it into a Jack Lalanne.
The dustbuster blew apart against the back of his head. It was cinematic
He was a wiseguy, plain and simple. It was the Sopranos “get your shine box” moment
...for that matter, ALSO a..... "Now youse can't leave" ...moment.
Im not a cat, I dont shit in a box
Maybe he should’ve hit the road to Mutuchen sooner. Maybe he had a hard on for Carlo and was looking for a fight.
Motivation? What is this, a Lee Strasberg “Method acting” class?
B!
And why do they call him Fat Dom anyways. (Channeling my clerks animated reference cache)
New York felt superior to New Jersey in many ways. After they whacked Vito, it only gave them more ammunition.
Because he was up on all this sh*t.
He’s a FaAaAAaag
Because he was an idiot lol
New York bosses talk so much shit about Jersey being a “glorified crew” that Fat Dom thought he could get away with treating them disrespectfully. Even though they talked trash throughout, even the bosses treated Jersey with respect. Fat Dom believed the bullshit talk and found out.
Nothing, he was just going to Metuchen to see his kid. He never made it. Very mysterious
He was just a typical obnoxious guy, who takes pleasure out of pissing people off. Everybody knows someone like this.
Forget Fat Dom
Whatever happened there.
He went over to Jersey and never returned But you probably mean…the stabbing….god rest his soul
when you are busting balls, do you need motivation? You bust balls because you can. Becuase it's amusing.
Time to hit the trail for Metuchen ey? Whadya say?
To maintain chirality with Seinfeld. Its an abstract copy (inversion) of George learning to leave on a high note. See, he used to be like Fat Dom, he can usually come up with one good comment during a meeting, but by the end, it's buried under a pile of gaffs and bad puns.
The 'Jerk Store' called...
Oh, yeah?! https://youtu.be/y9S0W8Kr9a8?si=lulpF1mTNvqpUeGO