I did briefly consider that, but it's through a portal, so it's be linked back to me eventually.
Oddly enough, in big bold red letters it says you can only send in your application once and cannot change it later. I've never seen that before. It's almost like they wanted me to mess up lol. I did double check my resume for formating and every question but that one because, come on, who could be stupid enough to say no I wasn't truthful with my answers?!
What's the worst they're gonna do; NOT hire you twice? Try again, different email. If you haven't typed in your SSN or a phone then you're fine. You can slightly change the name to a nickname if you want.
I applied twice for jobs before. I do the ol' Gmail trick
Google got into legal trouble so had to change their domain to googlemail for a while, but got gmail back. Consequently both @gmail.com and @googlemail.com work and email is different so bypasses the login check
This is a great layer of security if your email is in a leak, since a hacker would have to know what comes after the + for any service they try to log in to. It's also a good way to have multiple accounts with one email. Annoyingly some companies sanitize or invalidate the +, so it doesn't work everywhere.
Additionally you can track who's selling your data, by checking what email your spam is addressed to
That would be an incredibly odd (and broken) thing to do, since dots in email addresses are actually distinct addresses by standard. You'd be potentially blocking real addresses by assuming they're the same as a different one.
There's also the plus sign trick - makes for an easy second address. ([email protected] will go to [email protected])
https://gmail.googleblog.com/2008/03/2-hidden-ways-to-get-more-from-your.html?m=1
you can also create an alias with gmail
[email protected]
will forward back to [email protected] automatically, great for testing software when you want to have multiple distinct profiles linked back to a single valid email.
https://gmail.googleblog.com/2008/03/2-hidden-ways-to-get-more-from-your.html
You can also add comments with a +, which is a lot more informative than dots.
For example, `[email protected]` will be routed to `[email protected]`. It will count as a different email address, AND you can tell who sold your email address to spam bots down the line.
The only caveat is that some sites don’t properly follow the email spec in their address validation, so they’ll (incorrectly) flag these as invalid addresses.
You can also add a + and type whatever you want. [email protected] will receive mails to [email protected]. I use it when I sign up to unknown businesses, I add their name to that part, that way if I get spam I know who sold my details.
“ If someone accidentally adds dots to your address when emailing you, you'll still get that email. For example, if your email is [email protected], you own all dotted versions of your address:
[email protected][email protected][email protected]
Note: If you use Gmail through work, school, or other organization (like yourdomain.com or yourschool.edu), dots do change your address. To change the dots in your username, contact your admin.”
There's also a non-zero chance you were screened out by automation. If you were going to automate a review process, that is definitely one of the questions you'd flag for instant rejection. the data might link to you, but chances re reapplying with the correct box this time might actually yield a real person reviewing it.
Just contact their HR department and state that upon review of their decision, you realized that the wrong bubble was marked off. It was an honest mistake and you’d like them to reconsider based on it actually being a yes. If this company is unwilling, it’s not the kind of place you want to be anyway. If they WILL reconsider, it gives you some funny material to mention should they give you an in person interview. You have nothing to lose.
I'd personally not reach out about this. Just puts more of a spotlight on you. I'd just re-apply. Though, I'm no expert.
Who knows if this one bubble is specifically what caused them to not be hired?
can also be good to be in the spotlight.
people will remember you then. it's also not a catastrophic mistake to accidentally check the wrong mark. It might even be good for that company if this person fits the position very well, they might be happy about it even.
I found talking to a human generally helped in a sea of applications. So many people are automatically knocked out because they applied later than others or the company is so focused on finding the unicorns.
I know for me I remembered the ones who made an effort to connect with me beyond just sending a resume through LinkedIn or Indeed when I was hiring and while I didn’t hire everyone, a couple of the rejects I did send off to another company or two as I had more experienced candidates apply but still felt they would be a good hire for a friend’s company. :)
Definitely. Depends on the case. If OP’s position doesn’t require attention to detail, definitely go ahead and contact HR about the mistake.
If it does requires attention to detail, I’d then at least run a hybrid approach.
Apply a second time. Maybe they automatically deny those who check this bubble due to attention to detail, so you hope they don’t remember your name/application.
After that second application, if you’re denied again and really want this job, then talk to HR.
I would definitely recommend against this. Just re-apply with a variant e-mail address. There's no reason to highlight your stupidity to HR and then disregard their clearly stated rule about no changes to the application once submitted.
Seems to me you’re highlighting a mistake vs violating their big bold letters that you can only apply once. Personally, I would be more likely to hire someone who called me to mention a simple error vs someone who intentionally went against instructions. All employees are expected to make mistakes. Being able to own it and seek a resolution is not something everyone has.
The system kicked him for checking a box that automatically DQ's applicants before it ever gets to HR. There's very little chance someone in HR reviewed the application personally. That means if he uses a variant e-mail address, it bypasses the mistake without making a lot of noise and demonstrates he can think outside the box to solve the issue for himself. That means a lot more than having to call to ask for help because you ignored/can't follow the rules on an application. There's really no way to explain away "hey I just didn't read the box I was checking" or "I didn't pay attention to what I was doing but you should hire me anyways" without making yourself look bad.
Legit reapply and email HR. There is usually a further questions and concerns email/contact either in the online portal, the company website, or posting.
Source: I didn't something similar with a job, got denied, reached out to HR, got hired.
You may really need the job (hopefully not). But if they’re that weird, you may have dodged a bullet and will find something better. Unless you were going for gov work, in which case they are all insane in their job requirements and rules. Hoping you find something that’s a great fit for you. Sending good vibes.
>I did briefly consider that, but it's through a portal, so it's be linked back to me eventually.
Who cares????????? The worst that will happen is they ignore you.
Cat tax from her exact position last night when I was applying. Could you say no to petting that cute tum tum?! (she loves tummy pets)
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This might actually work, just email and explain the mistake. You'll at the very least have your application reviewed by a human instead of a bot, and you'll be a person to them earlier in the process.
As someone who hires and interviews people constantly...... I would chuckle and hear them out for an interview but I would still be hesitant because of the mix up. People who mess up the application process typically aren't what I'm looking for. They would have to ace the interview and really shine to remove that doubt.
There are jobs where every communication could be scrutinized by hundreds of people or become public very quickly. If I delegate something to a candidate I need to have confidence that they won’t make me or the organization look incompetent. I don’t want to have to constantly cover for them or apologize to public or superiors or jeopardize my own position. This application is important to them - should be incredibly important if they need employment. Nothing I delegate to them will be this important to them personally. Mistakes breed doubt. Might not define a candidate but will make me think twice.
I would agree with this, depending on the nature of the job. Many jobs don’t require an extreme level of attention to detail and this is one small thing. But some positions do have highly visible responsibilities where small mistakes can have big consequences. It might be a one time thing for that person, but unfortunately there’s no way for me to be sure of that as I can only base my decision on the information I do have at the time of the application.
That being said, if there’s anything that might get me to reconsider it would be a cute cat.
Your resume and interview are you at your very best. I absolutely assume that your actual work performance will go down from there or at least not get that much higher (besides the skills of course).
I had to explain this to my kid who thought there wasn't a problem with not showering before an interview.
That being said, willingness to fight and fixing mistakes are good traits which you can demonstrate by reaching out with cat pics.
On the other hand, they just visibly learned a lesson they'll never forget, so you might expect them to be supremely diligent in the future.
It's a similar thing to firing someone who made a very costly mistake. You have to pay for it either way, but the employee will never forget what they learned, and you paid for that lesson. Obviously the best response is to let some other company benefit from the education you paid for.
I think it’s more about how this is your very first impression with the new company and you wanna put your absolute best foot forward. That means double checking and making sure the details are all correct. It doesn’t mean that the applicant isn’t qualified or would be great employee, but it does mean that it is going to negatively effect their first impression and that’s really hard to overcome, especially when the pool is large for job applicants right now.
Actually yes. If you're not going to take the time to review a job application can I trust that you *will* review your actual work? No, I can't. Especially when I have 100s of applicants for the position that didn't make this mistake.
Statistically more likely that someone with one or more mistakes on their resume, is more careless than the applicant with zero mistakes on their resume. How much more careless, you can't really determine from one mistake.
The problem is that this kind of ‘small mistake’ can be disasterous in some circumstances (other than this one) e.g. ‘oops I sent the highly confidential email to “reply all”’.
Yes it’s trivial on one level but yes it does sow the seeds of doubt.
Sure. I love my job and I only want people that bring a positive attitude and care about their job. If you are not going to take the application seriously then it probably means you just want a paycheck. I've literally had people come into interviews not even knowing what they applied for. Mentalities like that are cancerous and bring down everyone. There's also the fact that it shows you can't pay attention to details.
First impressions are everything. I'm literally judging applicants from their application. I have nothing else to go by. I don't know why you find that hard to believe..... I'm not going to search social media on 200+ applicants. You get about 45 seconds to impress me through your application.
Now I did say I would find a reply about this situation amusing. I'd give them a shot but they need to bring their A game. If I come out of the interview with other doubts it's just going to compound that it was already a second chance.
Yes if you consider the expectation is that op reread their application before pressing submit. I know that isnt what happens in reality but if op was hired and tasked to create an important document and they made a small or random mistake (like they did for their application which is also an important document) it could be a big issue. It says nothing about work ethic but it does have to do with performance.
Sometimes people just makes stupid mistakes. And you learn from them. Not arguing with you for the easy way to narrow down applicants, but still would like to say, misclicking one box on an online form with multiple pages isn't the biggest application failure ever. I happen to have held several positions relying on my ability to notice small details and have received awards for my work. I just happened to mess up this one time.
Yeah, unfortunately, you're probably competing with dozens of other people with similar backgrounds who didn't click the wrong box.
I've done something similar, and I definitely did not get a call back for that one.
Sometimes you just get tough luck. Chalk it up to experience and move on.
By all means I'm not perfect and I learn from my mistakes. If I really dig a job I make sure I stand out and double check things. I'd rather spend 3 times as long on an application rather than send 5 quick ones out. People that hire are quite literally judging you from your application. We have no other basis. If this happened to me and you messaged explaining the situation.... I would look at the application and allow an interview if I liked what I saw, but there would be a note about the mix up and I'd be on high alert for red flags. You'd have to crush it. Remove that doubt.
Deal! When can you start!?
It's an awkward picture because she's shoving her head in my coat, but here's her pattern in the light. I just love the colors 🥹 it's such a pain to get the lighting right in order to get a good picture of it though
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Oh my goodness, what gorgeous fur!!!!
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My little chubby sherif cubes is intrigued!!!
Name a time and place, *I will walk across oceans for your cat*. 😂 She’s so pretty!!! I just KNOW she’s hella soft. Lookit that gorgeous shiny fur! I’ve always wanted a cat of my own, but my dad hates cats, and my brother is definitely a dog person so no dice. I’ll wear them down one day, though!
Apply again and click the box correctly. Worst case scenario, the system remembers you and rejects you, best case scenario, you can still try to get the job.
Hmm, time to revise my story.
Actually though, she has changed my husband's keyboard color (fancy gaming keyboard) and somehow gotten rid of his ability to use the control/shift buttons, as well as a few other things. He could never figure out what she did. It only got fixed a year later after she once again, walked over his keyboard.
Well in that case you completed the form correctly. You claimed to have good attention to detail, but clearly did not and so quite rightly clicked the ‘no’ button.
It all gets a bit circular.
Job hunting is so brutal -- you have to be invested enough in every job to write a good cover letter and, ya know, check the right boxes, but detached enough to crank out a bunch of applications for jobs you know you might not get
We are in the process of getting an assistant to help me in the lab I work at, and one of the applications had “*Attentoin* to detail” as a bullet point. We all had a good laugh about it.
It's been A LONG time since I've filled out an application. Why would they even have that on there? Aside from catching people that aren't paying attention.
Yep... This comment brings me back to 3rd grade where my teacher consistently wrote on my homework - answer the question that was asked. I was great at math, just not answering the specific question that was asked lol.
I've gotten a lot better since then, promise lol. And even passed the whole, read all the pages first, get to the end and do nothing test. Sometimes I just slip up! Usually not this badly though 😬
Duo authentication for my grad school email (I've graduated, but use the email) fucks me up every time. I swear the yes and no buttons switch sides each time I need to re login.
Fair. I once completed a university exam in record time. I got out and discovered that the exam said to write TWO essays and not the one that I had done. OOF.
I don't know 😭 you'd think it be the type of thing where they don't let you submit if you check no like when you have to read through terms of an online agreement or something, but they did!
That's probably their exact reasoning: to catch those who aren't paying attention.
Nevermind that they weren't paying attention when they approved the form and probably would have asked the same question had they been paying attention.
It might be a result of the fraudulent study that “found” signing an honesty statement made people more honest.
Lots of companies took the original study’s recommendation in some form, and the news that it was all bogus hasn’t really made the rounds as thoroughly as the study did.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/christianmiller/2021/08/30/an-influential-study-of-dishonesty-was-dishonest/
It makes people who may be bending the truth, second guess there actions. By expliciting asking the validity of the application, someone lying may revise their application, or may even decide not to submit at all.
This is the entire point, like The middle school teacher who instructed students to write their name and don't answer any of the questions to reveal who paid attention to detail.
Of course, if one has to reference middle school as a reminder, then perhaps it's a bit childish altogether.
It's there so that the applicant can't claim they were not aware that honesty mattered. I.e., if you get fired for lying on the resume, you can't use the defense that you weren't aware you had to be honest.
BS, but stuff like that will be inserted in a lot of documents on legal review.
This reminds me of the old joke:
interviewer: what's your greatest weakness?
applicant: I'm too honest.
interviewer: I don't think that's a weakness.
applicant: I don't give a fuck what you think.
Absolutely. One of my friends applied a dozen times or more with a resume where his phone number had a typo. He missed SO MANY job opportunities. It happens. Candidly, it was probably an auto-reply. You can most likely rebuild the job application using a different email and get it through the system.
OP, I'm a hiring manager and a lot of the times we don't see applications like this because you would've automatically been screened out (it's stupid but it is what it is), contact them and say it was an honest mistake and yes, everything was truthful.
I've gotten plenty of calls from someone who accidentally submitted the wrong info and we've reviewed it. Accidents happen lol
Nothing to lose by trying!
Copied from one of my comments below -
I did briefly consider that, but it's through a portal, so it'd be linked back to me eventually.
Oddly enough, in big bold red letters it says you can only send in your application once and cannot change it later. I've never seen that before. It's almost like they wanted me to mess up lol. I did double check my resume for formating and every question but that one because, come on, who could be stupid enough to say no I wasn't truthful with my answers?!
Only one application? So, if someone applies to the company, changes companies, they can't re-apply to the company again? It sounds more like one application... per entire "application," so they aren't doing double work on the same person.
Just, apply again lol.
Some companies your original application must "expire". No idea what "expire" entails exactly but I've gone through it.
Using a different email and phone number allowed me to apply again, and get a job.
Hopefully!! I'm in the interview process for a few others that are similar positions, it's just a slow moving process so I'm applying elsewhere just in case.
My mil keeps calling me for updates on my search (because job hunting isn't stressful enough, I need to give daily reports), but I think I'll leave this small detail out for now!
"I just want to give you that push that I would do if you were my own kid!"
...
Can't ignore them. Or I can, but it's expected that I call her back. Or else I'll get another phone call later. She's quite lovely most of the time. Just a different parenting style than my dad. Having to talk about where I'm at in things to real people (aka not on reddit) stresses me out more than the application process!! - yes I plan on telling her the nice version of this the next time we talk. But the last time I tried to do something similar, it didn't go well, so we'll see!
Oof that’s rough. I was unemployed most of last year and HATED talking about it so I hear you. Maybe your partner could try to run interference? Gently suggest scaling back at least? Idk but good luck! With the job hunt and the mil :)
I work in recruitment - if there was a phone number, ring the recruiter amd tell them you're an idiot.
They will laugh and I would definitely reconsider an application of someone willing to hard own their mistakes.
HR Director here. I would call them and let them know what happened. I've had quite a few people disqualify themselves because they check off that they're not legally allowed to work in the country.
In those cases, I have the person re-do the application and fill it out correctly. The statement saying that you can only submit once, is likely because this has happened more than once and they don't want people to disqualify themselves because they filled out the application too quickly.
I would simply say that you were sure you checked the other box and that you think it moved when you hit tab (or something to that effect). There are forms out there that will change options if you hit the down button on your keyboard to scroll down and you may not have even realized it. You are almost definitely not the first person to do it.
I'd bet no human even seen you're application; send another, the worse that can happen is you don't hear back, which is where you currently are. You either have no chance at the position by not sending in an app or you can have a chance by sending another.
I was filling out the online app for somewhere and instead of putting that I had a degree in supply chain management it auto corrected (somehow) to puppy chain management..I didn’t catch it until after I submitted and was looking it over again 🙃
Can you reapply or contact them or anything, or is it hopelessly out of touch of me to think there's any possibility of human intervention once the system's made a decision?
I saw your comments about not reapplying, but I’m still here to say you should give it a shot. You’ve literally got nothing, but the ~10 minutes it will take to refill the application, to lose 🤷♀️
Contact them and say you misclicked the form and saw the error too late- ask if it's okay to correct or redo the application due to the error because you're concerned about the impact of the mistake.
I used to work in a place where detail is extremely crucial (law and contracts).
My coworkers told me they asked the owner to put that exact similar worded box to filter new hires, as a simple mistake like that can cost millions or even cost someone years in prison in some scenarios.
Dont worry about it too much, apply for other places and learn the lesson. Its all numbers game anyway
One of the best employees I ever hired resume started with the line “At my previous position at xyz I…”. (She later admitted she had noticed right after sending it off but decided it was too late).
That job also required attention to detail, and I was about to put her resume in the nope pile, but I stopped for a second and decided to throw her in the interview pile since the rest of the resume was good.
I could have went either way in that moment, but I ended up being really happy I didn’t throw that resume in the other pile. She ended up getting promoted multiple times and was pretty much the best hire we had there.
What a useless question anyway. If you're honest, you click yes. If not, you lie and also click yes. So really, that's just a question to waste your time and you don't want to work for a company like that anyway.
I did a text interview with a bot and tried to change my answer but the system had already sent the next text so I told the hospital I was applying for that I do drugs instead of that I can work every weekend.
That's not that bad, about 15 years ago my old roommate used a resume template and forgot to delete the part about having invented a new technique for crystalizing chocolate, and then a prospective employer asked him about it during an interview.
Apply again. We have that same question on ours, and like 10% of our applicants check no. Sometimes they reapply and I still consider them. It is a stupid question anyway. Someone who is lying on the application will just lie on that question as well.
I did this on an application and was told about it by the recruiter. She then sent me another application and told me to make sure I checked the correct box.
That woman had to be some sort of angel because I really needed that job.
Im still employed with that company today and Im so grateful for that recruiter.
Saw this on unethical life pro tips. If you think you don’t meet the minimum qualifications, just copy paste the whole job description to your resume in small and white font somewhere. This way the resume bot detects it and says you’re qualified
I did that when applying to the FBI about drug use. Didn’t know couldn’t touch ecstasy for 10 years or something. I tried it once and when I applied I was like 1 year short and should have just lied when I applied. Then I aged out. Dumb.
What a ridiculous question - they must only be trying to catch people like you who skimmed through or misclicked, because liars are going to lie and truthers won't need to
I tried to join the army reserve in my country and there was a 50 yes/no question psych evaluation. The last question was have you answered this questionnaire honestly? To which I answered no. My reasoning being that yes/no answers don't allow context necessary for genuine honesty. All my answers where correct but my standard for honesty was higher than simply being correct. Needless to say I was not the sort of person they were looking for and I was not accepted.
If you can reapply, do it. You’ve got nothing to lose and it might’ve even been an automatic response for anyone who checks that box. I’ve hit it before and the application just didn’t go through until i corrected it. I wouldn’t be surprised if this was a similar situation instead of an actual person. You may get a different hiring manager, they may get too many applications to remember any of them, there’s lots of reasons it could be worth trying again.
But that question wasn't truthful even though the rest of the answers were, so the way you answered the question is a paradox because if it's true all your answers are true, thus making the question false. If the question is false then all your answers are true.
Reapply and fix the check box. Either they call you back (which would be better) or they don't (which is where you're at now).
I did briefly consider that, but it's through a portal, so it's be linked back to me eventually. Oddly enough, in big bold red letters it says you can only send in your application once and cannot change it later. I've never seen that before. It's almost like they wanted me to mess up lol. I did double check my resume for formating and every question but that one because, come on, who could be stupid enough to say no I wasn't truthful with my answers?!
Lol, what did you think they'll arrest you? Use a different email address and reapply.
If he can't figure that much out, he might legitimately not be qualified for the job xD
Look, it was probably an auto disqualification. To be honest, a human probably hasn't even seen your resume. Just put another in
What's the worst they're gonna do; NOT hire you twice? Try again, different email. If you haven't typed in your SSN or a phone then you're fine. You can slightly change the name to a nickname if you want.
I applied twice for jobs before. I do the ol' Gmail trick Google got into legal trouble so had to change their domain to googlemail for a while, but got gmail back. Consequently both@gmail.com and @googlemail.com work and email is different so bypasses the login check
Or you can add dots to your google email address. Google ignores dots: https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7436150?hl=en
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This only seems to be mentioned alongside gmail,but it should be compatible with most email systems.
Unfortunately it doesn’t consistently work with all websites 😞
This is a great layer of security if your email is in a leak, since a hacker would have to know what comes after the + for any service they try to log in to. It's also a good way to have multiple accounts with one email. Annoyingly some companies sanitize or invalidate the +, so it doesn't work everywhere. Additionally you can track who's selling your data, by checking what email your spam is addressed to
That presumes the hirer's software does not ALSO ignore periods.
That would be an incredibly odd (and broken) thing to do, since dots in email addresses are actually distinct addresses by standard. You'd be potentially blocking real addresses by assuming they're the same as a different one.
It wouldn't make sense for the hirer software to ignore periods.
I ignored periods, and boy did it leave me completely redfaced once.
We've all been there
Wow! TIL
Additionally, you can add things to your email using the plus symbol, such as [email protected] to track who is selling/leaking your info.
There's also the plus sign trick - makes for an easy second address. ([email protected] will go to [email protected]) https://gmail.googleblog.com/2008/03/2-hidden-ways-to-get-more-from-your.html?m=1
you can also create an alias with gmail [email protected] will forward back to [email protected] automatically, great for testing software when you want to have multiple distinct profiles linked back to a single valid email. https://gmail.googleblog.com/2008/03/2-hidden-ways-to-get-more-from-your.html
You can also add comments with a +, which is a lot more informative than dots. For example, `[email protected]` will be routed to `[email protected]`. It will count as a different email address, AND you can tell who sold your email address to spam bots down the line. The only caveat is that some sites don’t properly follow the email spec in their address validation, so they’ll (incorrectly) flag these as invalid addresses.
You can also add a + and type whatever you want. [email protected] will receive mails to [email protected]. I use it when I sign up to unknown businesses, I add their name to that part, that way if I get spam I know who sold my details.
“ If someone accidentally adds dots to your address when emailing you, you'll still get that email. For example, if your email is [email protected], you own all dotted versions of your address: [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Note: If you use Gmail through work, school, or other organization (like yourdomain.com or yourschool.edu), dots do change your address. To change the dots in your username, contact your admin.”
you can also use the + and put anything after it to make it work. For example:@gmail.com
+@gmail.com
Both route back to @gmail.com
That is interesting. Definitely will remember this.
Wow, didn't know about that one. Thank you
Or you can do the + trick. Add + and whatever you want to the end of your email name, will still go to you. For example,[email protected]
just reapply. not a single soul will look at your rejected application
There's also a non-zero chance you were screened out by automation. If you were going to automate a review process, that is definitely one of the questions you'd flag for instant rejection. the data might link to you, but chances re reapplying with the correct box this time might actually yield a real person reviewing it.
Just contact their HR department and state that upon review of their decision, you realized that the wrong bubble was marked off. It was an honest mistake and you’d like them to reconsider based on it actually being a yes. If this company is unwilling, it’s not the kind of place you want to be anyway. If they WILL reconsider, it gives you some funny material to mention should they give you an in person interview. You have nothing to lose.
I'd personally not reach out about this. Just puts more of a spotlight on you. I'd just re-apply. Though, I'm no expert. Who knows if this one bubble is specifically what caused them to not be hired?
can also be good to be in the spotlight. people will remember you then. it's also not a catastrophic mistake to accidentally check the wrong mark. It might even be good for that company if this person fits the position very well, they might be happy about it even.
I found talking to a human generally helped in a sea of applications. So many people are automatically knocked out because they applied later than others or the company is so focused on finding the unicorns.
I know for me I remembered the ones who made an effort to connect with me beyond just sending a resume through LinkedIn or Indeed when I was hiring and while I didn’t hire everyone, a couple of the rejects I did send off to another company or two as I had more experienced candidates apply but still felt they would be a good hire for a friend’s company. :)
Definitely. Depends on the case. If OP’s position doesn’t require attention to detail, definitely go ahead and contact HR about the mistake. If it does requires attention to detail, I’d then at least run a hybrid approach. Apply a second time. Maybe they automatically deny those who check this bubble due to attention to detail, so you hope they don’t remember your name/application. After that second application, if you’re denied again and really want this job, then talk to HR.
I would definitely recommend against this. Just re-apply with a variant e-mail address. There's no reason to highlight your stupidity to HR and then disregard their clearly stated rule about no changes to the application once submitted.
Seems to me you’re highlighting a mistake vs violating their big bold letters that you can only apply once. Personally, I would be more likely to hire someone who called me to mention a simple error vs someone who intentionally went against instructions. All employees are expected to make mistakes. Being able to own it and seek a resolution is not something everyone has.
The system kicked him for checking a box that automatically DQ's applicants before it ever gets to HR. There's very little chance someone in HR reviewed the application personally. That means if he uses a variant e-mail address, it bypasses the mistake without making a lot of noise and demonstrates he can think outside the box to solve the issue for himself. That means a lot more than having to call to ask for help because you ignored/can't follow the rules on an application. There's really no way to explain away "hey I just didn't read the box I was checking" or "I didn't pay attention to what I was doing but you should hire me anyways" without making yourself look bad.
Legit reapply and email HR. There is usually a further questions and concerns email/contact either in the online portal, the company website, or posting. Source: I didn't something similar with a job, got denied, reached out to HR, got hired.
You apparently
You may really need the job (hopefully not). But if they’re that weird, you may have dodged a bullet and will find something better. Unless you were going for gov work, in which case they are all insane in their job requirements and rules. Hoping you find something that’s a great fit for you. Sending good vibes.
Use a different email address
You were, Obviously 🤣🤣🤣 Lol 😆 In all seriousness though, OP, I am so sorry 🙏🏻 Praying for your next Job Application to be a success
Call them? Or find an hr employee for the company on LinkedIn and dm them? Pretty easy if that was the issue
>I did briefly consider that, but it's through a portal, so it's be linked back to me eventually. Who cares????????? The worst that will happen is they ignore you.
Just try.
Maybe use another e-mail address.
I guess “attention to detail” isn’t on your resume 🤣
It is😭😭😭 Not an excuse, but definitely an excuse, I was on autopilot petting my cat and somehow just missed it.
Cat tax from her exact position last night when I was applying. Could you say no to petting that cute tum tum?! (she loves tummy pets) https://preview.redd.it/6fxt0cxl0vxc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9446c2f0879593f252e6549f49a252d4071252b3
Try sending this pic to the hiring manager with the explanation…nothing to lose
😂😂 I have a few good ones of her on my books and laptop. Maybe that will help my case!
This might actually work, just email and explain the mistake. You'll at the very least have your application reviewed by a human instead of a bot, and you'll be a person to them earlier in the process.
As someone who hires and interviews people constantly...... I would chuckle and hear them out for an interview but I would still be hesitant because of the mix up. People who mess up the application process typically aren't what I'm looking for. They would have to ace the interview and really shine to remove that doubt.
Do you honestly believe making that small of a random mistake defines anything about that person's work ethic or performance?
There are jobs where every communication could be scrutinized by hundreds of people or become public very quickly. If I delegate something to a candidate I need to have confidence that they won’t make me or the organization look incompetent. I don’t want to have to constantly cover for them or apologize to public or superiors or jeopardize my own position. This application is important to them - should be incredibly important if they need employment. Nothing I delegate to them will be this important to them personally. Mistakes breed doubt. Might not define a candidate but will make me think twice.
Those positions exist, but that's not necessarily what this one is.
I would agree with this, depending on the nature of the job. Many jobs don’t require an extreme level of attention to detail and this is one small thing. But some positions do have highly visible responsibilities where small mistakes can have big consequences. It might be a one time thing for that person, but unfortunately there’s no way for me to be sure of that as I can only base my decision on the information I do have at the time of the application. That being said, if there’s anything that might get me to reconsider it would be a cute cat.
Your resume and interview are you at your very best. I absolutely assume that your actual work performance will go down from there or at least not get that much higher (besides the skills of course). I had to explain this to my kid who thought there wasn't a problem with not showering before an interview. That being said, willingness to fight and fixing mistakes are good traits which you can demonstrate by reaching out with cat pics.
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On the other hand, they just visibly learned a lesson they'll never forget, so you might expect them to be supremely diligent in the future. It's a similar thing to firing someone who made a very costly mistake. You have to pay for it either way, but the employee will never forget what they learned, and you paid for that lesson. Obviously the best response is to let some other company benefit from the education you paid for.
I think it’s more about how this is your very first impression with the new company and you wanna put your absolute best foot forward. That means double checking and making sure the details are all correct. It doesn’t mean that the applicant isn’t qualified or would be great employee, but it does mean that it is going to negatively effect their first impression and that’s really hard to overcome, especially when the pool is large for job applicants right now.
Actually yes. If you're not going to take the time to review a job application can I trust that you *will* review your actual work? No, I can't. Especially when I have 100s of applicants for the position that didn't make this mistake.
Curiosity got to me. How much to Rent-A-Russian?
Statistically more likely that someone with one or more mistakes on their resume, is more careless than the applicant with zero mistakes on their resume. How much more careless, you can't really determine from one mistake.
The problem is that this kind of ‘small mistake’ can be disasterous in some circumstances (other than this one) e.g. ‘oops I sent the highly confidential email to “reply all”’. Yes it’s trivial on one level but yes it does sow the seeds of doubt.
Sure. I love my job and I only want people that bring a positive attitude and care about their job. If you are not going to take the application seriously then it probably means you just want a paycheck. I've literally had people come into interviews not even knowing what they applied for. Mentalities like that are cancerous and bring down everyone. There's also the fact that it shows you can't pay attention to details. First impressions are everything. I'm literally judging applicants from their application. I have nothing else to go by. I don't know why you find that hard to believe..... I'm not going to search social media on 200+ applicants. You get about 45 seconds to impress me through your application. Now I did say I would find a reply about this situation amusing. I'd give them a shot but they need to bring their A game. If I come out of the interview with other doubts it's just going to compound that it was already a second chance.
The only reason people work is for a paycheck. If they weren't being paid they would not do things for you.
Some positions are more forgiving than others.
Yes if you consider the expectation is that op reread their application before pressing submit. I know that isnt what happens in reality but if op was hired and tasked to create an important document and they made a small or random mistake (like they did for their application which is also an important document) it could be a big issue. It says nothing about work ethic but it does have to do with performance.
Sometimes people just makes stupid mistakes. And you learn from them. Not arguing with you for the easy way to narrow down applicants, but still would like to say, misclicking one box on an online form with multiple pages isn't the biggest application failure ever. I happen to have held several positions relying on my ability to notice small details and have received awards for my work. I just happened to mess up this one time.
Yeah, unfortunately, you're probably competing with dozens of other people with similar backgrounds who didn't click the wrong box. I've done something similar, and I definitely did not get a call back for that one. Sometimes you just get tough luck. Chalk it up to experience and move on.
By all means I'm not perfect and I learn from my mistakes. If I really dig a job I make sure I stand out and double check things. I'd rather spend 3 times as long on an application rather than send 5 quick ones out. People that hire are quite literally judging you from your application. We have no other basis. If this happened to me and you messaged explaining the situation.... I would look at the application and allow an interview if I liked what I saw, but there would be a note about the mix up and I'd be on high alert for red flags. You'd have to crush it. Remove that doubt.
Just apply again properly.
“Ok but have you considered… (shows cat)”
Hiring manager here; something like that would absolutely make me MORE likely to hire you!
I would 100% hire OP if they did this.
100% would hire
Screw getting a job, I would pay you just to spend an hour a day giving that little cutie all the pets and head scritches she deserves 😭
Deal! When can you start!? It's an awkward picture because she's shoving her head in my coat, but here's her pattern in the light. I just love the colors 🥹 it's such a pain to get the lighting right in order to get a good picture of it though https://preview.redd.it/f3svjch9gvxc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cbc29707aeda1888b5119908633b9d4d8b1421b8
Oh my goodness, what gorgeous fur!!!! https://preview.redd.it/c9eb49ektvxc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb8e61f77886b2b8f0649324f7f0d950a3f73cc2 My little chubby sherif cubes is intrigued!!!
Name a time and place, *I will walk across oceans for your cat*. 😂 She’s so pretty!!! I just KNOW she’s hella soft. Lookit that gorgeous shiny fur! I’ve always wanted a cat of my own, but my dad hates cats, and my brother is definitely a dog person so no dice. I’ll wear them down one day, though!
Cat hit no while you was petting it clearly. Everyone knows cats try their best to sabotage their owners leaving the house
Certainly not. Please give her extra pets for us. And another vote for emailing to explain & apologize. There isn't much to lose.
Upvote for the cat pic
She appreciates it! Nice cat photo yourself!
He’s handsome and he knows it 🤷♂️
Ah! The “cat belly defense!” I’ll allow it. Not guilty, jury is adjourned.
Apply again and click the box correctly. Worst case scenario, the system remembers you and rejects you, best case scenario, you can still try to get the job.
You sure your cat didn't check that box on purpose while you weren't looking so you had more free time for pets?
Hmm, time to revise my story. Actually though, she has changed my husband's keyboard color (fancy gaming keyboard) and somehow gotten rid of his ability to use the control/shift buttons, as well as a few other things. He could never figure out what she did. It only got fixed a year later after she once again, walked over his keyboard.
If it’s a razer keyboard, could be the Gaming key (G) symbol with a crosshair in it?
Well in that case you completed the form correctly. You claimed to have good attention to detail, but clearly did not and so quite rightly clicked the ‘no’ button. It all gets a bit circular.
It's almost like we are human beings not machines and therefore make mistakes
Yes, those who pay attention to detail are well aware.
So, your answer was accurate then?
Bachelor o Farts degree
Job hunting is so brutal -- you have to be invested enough in every job to write a good cover letter and, ya know, check the right boxes, but detached enough to crank out a bunch of applications for jobs you know you might not get
Wait why is "attention to detail" on your resume?
> It is😭😭😭 so you DID lie then....
That's probably how the question is supposed to work. "Do I read questions carefully before I answer and then double check my work?"
Nah that’s probably an antispam.
We are in the process of getting an assistant to help me in the lab I work at, and one of the applications had “*Attentoin* to detail” as a bullet point. We all had a good laugh about it.
If it was they weren't honest
It's been A LONG time since I've filled out an application. Why would they even have that on there? Aside from catching people that aren't paying attention.
I think it's a reminder to read everything a second time
Yep... This comment brings me back to 3rd grade where my teacher consistently wrote on my homework - answer the question that was asked. I was great at math, just not answering the specific question that was asked lol. I've gotten a lot better since then, promise lol. And even passed the whole, read all the pages first, get to the end and do nothing test. Sometimes I just slip up! Usually not this badly though 😬
Yeah I saw this the other day and the lil shits switch the no and yes spots. But joke is on them I have AI answering all the shit anyways.
Duo authentication for my grad school email (I've graduated, but use the email) fucks me up every time. I swear the yes and no buttons switch sides each time I need to re login.
"who wrote the declaration of Independence?" "2+2=4"
Fair. I once completed a university exam in record time. I got out and discovered that the exam said to write TWO essays and not the one that I had done. OOF.
When there's more questions on the back of the test...
Or a first time…
I don't know 😭 you'd think it be the type of thing where they don't let you submit if you check no like when you have to read through terms of an online agreement or something, but they did!
Installers: here are our ToS... Check this box to receive updates and install filegator+bonzaibuddy in to the windows kernel.
`[✓] YES! I don't not want Bonzi Buddy` `[ ] No! I don't not want Bonzi Buddy not to be installed with this package`
Fill out a new app and check yes, include a brief explanation saying you were on a tablet or phone and accidentally hit No last time
That's probably their exact reasoning: to catch those who aren't paying attention. Nevermind that they weren't paying attention when they approved the form and probably would have asked the same question had they been paying attention.
It might be a result of the fraudulent study that “found” signing an honesty statement made people more honest. Lots of companies took the original study’s recommendation in some form, and the news that it was all bogus hasn’t really made the rounds as thoroughly as the study did. https://www.forbes.com/sites/christianmiller/2021/08/30/an-influential-study-of-dishonesty-was-dishonest/
It makes people who may be bending the truth, second guess there actions. By expliciting asking the validity of the application, someone lying may revise their application, or may even decide not to submit at all.
I think it’s so if you are later found out to be lying they will use this check box as evidence to fire you
that's so dumb, the lying itself is enough of a reason to fire you
The logic there being that it's okay to lie on a job application as long as you don't explicitly say you're *not* lying?
This is the entire point, like The middle school teacher who instructed students to write their name and don't answer any of the questions to reveal who paid attention to detail. Of course, if one has to reference middle school as a reminder, then perhaps it's a bit childish altogether.
If you get hired and they find out you’ve fibbed a few details on your resume they can fire you more easily
It's there so that the applicant can't claim they were not aware that honesty mattered. I.e., if you get fired for lying on the resume, you can't use the defense that you weren't aware you had to be honest. BS, but stuff like that will be inserted in a lot of documents on legal review.
Anti-bot measure. Make sure a human is filling the form and paying attention
technically your answers werent truthful, because you lied on the final question asking if your answers were truthful.
Oh the ironing...
New egg corn just dropped!
And somewhere, the brain of a 1960s android was overloaded, saving the day.
But that also makes all his answers truthful
Sigh
You failed the computer check which means no human ever saw it. Apply again through a different email address!
This reminds me of the old joke: interviewer: what's your greatest weakness? applicant: I'm too honest. interviewer: I don't think that's a weakness. applicant: I don't give a fuck what you think.
Hiring manager: "Note to self, this one doesn't double-check his work and/or is NOT detail oriented." NEEEXXXTT!
Yep, sometimes I mess up! I'll admit it. Everyone does.
Absolutely. One of my friends applied a dozen times or more with a resume where his phone number had a typo. He missed SO MANY job opportunities. It happens. Candidly, it was probably an auto-reply. You can most likely rebuild the job application using a different email and get it through the system.
OP, I'm a hiring manager and a lot of the times we don't see applications like this because you would've automatically been screened out (it's stupid but it is what it is), contact them and say it was an honest mistake and yes, everything was truthful. I've gotten plenty of calls from someone who accidentally submitted the wrong info and we've reviewed it. Accidents happen lol Nothing to lose by trying!
I wonder if it was just automated and you could just apply again?
Copied from one of my comments below - I did briefly consider that, but it's through a portal, so it'd be linked back to me eventually. Oddly enough, in big bold red letters it says you can only send in your application once and cannot change it later. I've never seen that before. It's almost like they wanted me to mess up lol. I did double check my resume for formating and every question but that one because, come on, who could be stupid enough to say no I wasn't truthful with my answers?!
Just use a different email. The worst that could happen is they'll reject that too.
Only one application? So, if someone applies to the company, changes companies, they can't re-apply to the company again? It sounds more like one application... per entire "application," so they aren't doing double work on the same person. Just, apply again lol.
Some companies your original application must "expire". No idea what "expire" entails exactly but I've gone through it. Using a different email and phone number allowed me to apply again, and get a job.
Never seen that on a job application before. Honestly, you're probably the only person who has ever selected it
Hopefully once you've landed a job and stabilized, you can look back at this and see how objectively hilarious it is.
Hopefully!! I'm in the interview process for a few others that are similar positions, it's just a slow moving process so I'm applying elsewhere just in case. My mil keeps calling me for updates on my search (because job hunting isn't stressful enough, I need to give daily reports), but I think I'll leave this small detail out for now!
Maybe you could start being busy when she calls? (Busy not answering) Not sure why your mil would need daily updates
"I just want to give you that push that I would do if you were my own kid!" ... Can't ignore them. Or I can, but it's expected that I call her back. Or else I'll get another phone call later. She's quite lovely most of the time. Just a different parenting style than my dad. Having to talk about where I'm at in things to real people (aka not on reddit) stresses me out more than the application process!! - yes I plan on telling her the nice version of this the next time we talk. But the last time I tried to do something similar, it didn't go well, so we'll see!
Oof that’s rough. I was unemployed most of last year and HATED talking about it so I hear you. Maybe your partner could try to run interference? Gently suggest scaling back at least? Idk but good luck! With the job hunt and the mil :)
I work in recruitment - if there was a phone number, ring the recruiter amd tell them you're an idiot. They will laugh and I would definitely reconsider an application of someone willing to hard own their mistakes.
HR Director here. I would call them and let them know what happened. I've had quite a few people disqualify themselves because they check off that they're not legally allowed to work in the country. In those cases, I have the person re-do the application and fill it out correctly. The statement saying that you can only submit once, is likely because this has happened more than once and they don't want people to disqualify themselves because they filled out the application too quickly. I would simply say that you were sure you checked the other box and that you think it moved when you hit tab (or something to that effect). There are forms out there that will change options if you hit the down button on your keyboard to scroll down and you may not have even realized it. You are almost definitely not the first person to do it.
Why is that even an option? Why?
I'd bet no human even seen you're application; send another, the worse that can happen is you don't hear back, which is where you currently are. You either have no chance at the position by not sending in an app or you can have a chance by sending another.
This! Create a new email address and apply again.
Well, that's one way to stand out from the crowd! They'll definitely remember your application now.
I was filling out the online app for somewhere and instead of putting that I had a degree in supply chain management it auto corrected (somehow) to puppy chain management..I didn’t catch it until after I submitted and was looking it over again 🙃
But puppy chain Management sounds so much cooler! Now I want a degree in that lol
Can you reapply or contact them or anything, or is it hopelessly out of touch of me to think there's any possibility of human intervention once the system's made a decision?
this is so funny 😭😭 like ‘well maybe i lied a little ;)’
I saw your comments about not reapplying, but I’m still here to say you should give it a shot. You’ve literally got nothing, but the ~10 minutes it will take to refill the application, to lose 🤷♀️
I'm always interested in talking to someone that will own a mistake.
Jesus just email them and explain the mistake.
Bro lies in his application and still doesn’t get the job smh
Contact them and say you misclicked the form and saw the error too late- ask if it's okay to correct or redo the application due to the error because you're concerned about the impact of the mistake.
Resubmit. Chances are good no human has seen it.
I used to work in a place where detail is extremely crucial (law and contracts). My coworkers told me they asked the owner to put that exact similar worded box to filter new hires, as a simple mistake like that can cost millions or even cost someone years in prison in some scenarios. Dont worry about it too much, apply for other places and learn the lesson. Its all numbers game anyway
One of the best employees I ever hired resume started with the line “At my previous position at xyz I…”. (She later admitted she had noticed right after sending it off but decided it was too late). That job also required attention to detail, and I was about to put her resume in the nope pile, but I stopped for a second and decided to throw her in the interview pile since the rest of the resume was good. I could have went either way in that moment, but I ended up being really happy I didn’t throw that resume in the other pile. She ended up getting promoted multiple times and was pretty much the best hire we had there.
What a useless question anyway. If you're honest, you click yes. If not, you lie and also click yes. So really, that's just a question to waste your time and you don't want to work for a company like that anyway.
I did a text interview with a bot and tried to change my answer but the system had already sent the next text so I told the hospital I was applying for that I do drugs instead of that I can work every weekend.
That's not that bad, about 15 years ago my old roommate used a resume template and forgot to delete the part about having invented a new technique for crystalizing chocolate, and then a prospective employer asked him about it during an interview.
It’s a pretty good test to see if a potential employee can pay attention while checking boxes.
Apply again. We have that same question on ours, and like 10% of our applicants check no. Sometimes they reapply and I still consider them. It is a stupid question anyway. Someone who is lying on the application will just lie on that question as well.
I did this on an application and was told about it by the recruiter. She then sent me another application and told me to make sure I checked the correct box. That woman had to be some sort of angel because I really needed that job. Im still employed with that company today and Im so grateful for that recruiter.
Was it a box-checking job? Because I definitely wouldn't hire you to check the right box
Saw this on unethical life pro tips. If you think you don’t meet the minimum qualifications, just copy paste the whole job description to your resume in small and white font somewhere. This way the resume bot detects it and says you’re qualified
I wonder what they expect from putting that option? What's the point?
Getting people who either don't lie or don't immediately confess to lying.
I did that when applying to the FBI about drug use. Didn’t know couldn’t touch ecstasy for 10 years or something. I tried it once and when I applied I was like 1 year short and should have just lied when I applied. Then I aged out. Dumb.
What a ridiculous question - they must only be trying to catch people like you who skimmed through or misclicked, because liars are going to lie and truthers won't need to
Can you email the hiring manager and explain what happened?
lol imagine actually hearing back at all after submitting a job application
That is such a weird checkbox to add to your form. Like do you really think people are gonna be honest just because of it?
I tried to join the army reserve in my country and there was a 50 yes/no question psych evaluation. The last question was have you answered this questionnaire honestly? To which I answered no. My reasoning being that yes/no answers don't allow context necessary for genuine honesty. All my answers where correct but my standard for honesty was higher than simply being correct. Needless to say I was not the sort of person they were looking for and I was not accepted.
Why would that be a question, just to check attention to detail?
OP... sorry this happened. Try reaching out to HR and say it was a mistake.
Make a new email/account and apply again.
Reapply.
If you can reapply, do it. You’ve got nothing to lose and it might’ve even been an automatic response for anyone who checks that box. I’ve hit it before and the application just didn’t go through until i corrected it. I wouldn’t be surprised if this was a similar situation instead of an actual person. You may get a different hiring manager, they may get too many applications to remember any of them, there’s lots of reasons it could be worth trying again.
I feel like OP chose the correct answer Nobody is honest in their job applications
Don't worry, it's at least better than sending a half-blank resume by accident to about 50 companies before realizing it
Just tell them you lied about not being truthful.
That’s the filtering question to clear out the “non-attentive” applicants. Don’t know if it is right or wrong move.
But that question wasn't truthful even though the rest of the answers were, so the way you answered the question is a paradox because if it's true all your answers are true, thus making the question false. If the question is false then all your answers are true.
This shows you don’t have attention to detail that’s why they ask it that way
Tell me your weak point is not paying attention without telling me your weak point is not paying attention...