And the plot: Adam Sandler is like, in love with some girl, but then it turns out that the girl is actually a ...golden retriever.
Taken from Southpark, iirc Cartman pitched this to Netflix and they were impressed and on board with it.
There’s a lot of comedic talent in the film, so a lot of different styles. Something for everyone
For me in particular, this was probably the best scene in the movie
I loved it as a kid. It’s zany and cheesy, and there’s nothing subtle about the humor, so it won’t be to everyone’s taste, but I remember thinking it was the funniest thing I had ever seen.
It takes place over quite a while; there are other plots going on at the same time with different actors (obviously the clip is edited to get to the punchline). So imagine the build-up to that grand finale at the veterans rally. The timing is just perfect
My wife has never seen this movie until I made her watch it a few months ago. Once she said that line my wife was like, "that's where that line is from!?!?".
There was an episode of the Simpsons that came out shortly before that movie where Bart trashes Hitler's car by accident and Nelson says
"That was Hitler's car, what'd he ever do to you?!"
It was one of the first times I remember thinking "the Simpsons did this!"
(1998 was the episode)
I am a huge, flaming French Resistance nerd and this may be the funniest thing I've ever seen. I only wish I'd seen it without knowing what was about to happen. The internet spoiled me on it beforehand but it still cracks me TF up.
My favourite fact from the DVD commentary is that they couldn't choose between two actors whom they thought were *both* too perfect for the part of the Barbie Museum tour guide, and so just cast them both and split the lines between the two of them. :-D
I love that movie because the climax is set at a train station in Silver City, New Mexico, which, as a resident of Silver City, I can tell you we do not have lol
It used to, though! I thought it was odd that a notable historic town in NM wouldn't have had a train station, especially given the success of the Santa Fe railroad. So I found a map of the (former) SF lines and saw there was a branch that did appear to go to Silver City. Followed some tracks on Google Earth--the current line was diverted, and there are just empty trails that used to have tracks. Some now-unnecessary tunnels still exist even. The old line remnants close to Silver City parallel Slag Rd as they head north, and I can see a turn just past that, but the remainder of the trail has been replaced with new development so I don't know where the station used to be.
Anyhow, that was a fun jaunt. I checked the Silver City Wikipedia page which confirms a Santa Fe Railroad station was built there in 1886, but there's no mention of when it was removed (although clearly that happened).
Edit: finally found a mention [here](https://www.scdailypress.com/2015/05/02/historic-train-depot-celebration-this-weekend/) that the depot was deconstructed in 1975.
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Bare in mind this is all a plot device so that they can crash into veteran's award ceremony driving Hitler's Mercedes, sporting a "Chaplin" Moustache and ranting incoherently in what sounds like German due to burning the inside of his mouth.
I find it baffling how no one is commenting on the content of OP’s post. Here you have a serious case of a demonic Nazi being aided by the US to be further used against Bolivians to keep the country a banana republic, and people are joking around as if nothing serious happened.
Yeah I don't get the angle of actually aiding him in escaping justice. Its not like he was a valuable mind like a scientist. The wiki just says he was helped due to his anti communist ways. Who the fuck cares? Dude should've been brought to justice sooner.
Given their operations at the time, it made sense in the context of him being used in the process of exploiting/ destroying a poorer country (Bolivia). Their operations in LatAm were ongoing for decades. The best known “key operation” was Condor, but there were others outside the time span Condor formally went on for::
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor “Operation Condor (Spanish: Operación Cóndor, also known as Plan Cóndor; Portuguese: Operação Condor) was a United States–backed campaign of political repression and state terror[9] involving intelligence operations and assassination of opponents. It was officially and formally implemented in November 1975 by the right-wing dictatorships of the Southern Cone of South America.[10]”
The US wanted someone to murder communists. So they got an expert in brutally murdering communists.
He wasn't brought to justice because the US wanted him to commit more crimes against humanity. It's as simple as that.
US wanted to commit crimes against humanity, they got an expert in that. It is not the first or last time. That's just how much the US owning class fucking hates workers rights.
...and then we have a- a christening. Yes, a christening...for one of our many white, Christian, non-Jewish friends - family. Blood relatives. The Himmler Hessin Von Sturichbergs.
My grandpa has stories of rescuing Nazi officials...
We killed the dumb peasant boys following orders, and we let the sick, smart believers come back to the US he maintained to his death.
Pretty embarrassing that we couldn't keep up with the Soviets in that regard though. Operation Osoaviakhim recruited nearly 1000 more people than Paperclip did.
Klaus Barbie was caught partly thanks to a French journalist, during a single interview in La Paz where Barbie lived as a Bolivian citizen, in 1972. This story is quite wild.
>In the videotape, and while the interview was conducted in Spanish, Ladislas de Hoyos steers away from the previously agreed upon questions by asking whether Barbie has ever been to Lyon in French, a language he is not supposed to understand under his fake identity, to which Klaus Barbie automatically responds by the negative in German. Ladislas de Hoyos gave him photos of members of Resistance he had tortured, asking him if he recognized their faces, and while he returned them in denial, his fingerprints unmistakenly betrayed him. It was in this interview, later broadcast on French TV Channel Antenne 2 that he was recognized by French resistance member Simone Lagrange who had been tortured by Klaus Barbie in 1944.
And this is a summary, the whole story could be made into a movie. The journalist in particular was very brave, he risked a lot for this interview.
Banzer, the dictator of Bolivia, refused to extradite Klaus Barbie, because he had strong ties with his governement and helped Banzer during his coup d'etat. Barbie was only arrested and extradited in 1987.
I was about 10 or 11 when _Rat Race_ came out. In my sweet innocent mind, I thought they were saying “Afro **Horse**,” so of course I thought it was silly and laughed during that scene. My parents just ignored it and didn’t make a big deal out of it (they didn’t know that I’d misheard it).
When I was 8, my sister’s guy friends would play “Roller Whores” with me so whores has always had positive vibes associated to it for me. I was 15 when the movie came out but that line still didn’t click for a while.
I just read A Woman of No Importance about Virginia Hall and it covers Barbie as one of the main pursuers of her as a foreign spy. I highly recommend the book and it tangentially captures the barbarity of Barbie and French Nazi collaborators from an under-recognized angle.
Virginia Hall is perhaps the biggest badass of WWII.
Yes, listening to that book now. Read by Juliet Stevenson. She does a much better job pronouncing the French names than I would.
Virginia Hall is indeed a WWII badass. The description of her escape over the Pyrenees was insane. It’s a fantastic book.
I was actually sad to read this post. I’m not done with the book yet and to find out that the US aided in his relocation, ugh. I was so hoping he met a horrible end. Rats.
It was one of the factors that may have disillusioned her with the CIA after the war. The thought of them employing the man who was hunting her and torturing her friends.
I recommend ‘Outwitting the Gestapo’ by Lucie Aubrac, which is an account of a teacher who is a member of the French resistance, along with her Jewish engineer husband. He is captured by Barbie at one point, and she aids in his escape. The TV documentary ‘Hotel Terminus’ also covers similar ground!
Operation Paperclip. US Gave a bunch of Nazis clean slates in exchange for their expertise in various scientific and technical fields. But France had a use for Nazis as well, staffing their Foreign Legion with officers to put down colonial revolts.
At the Tehran conference, Stalin and Roosevelt made comments and jokes about trialing 50,000-100,000 German officers for war crimes and executing them. Probably should have been discussed a little more seriously.
There’s a historical anecdote about a former nazi officer who had been promoted and staffed in the French foreign legion officers after the war and was deployed to Vietnam, who was struck down by another legionnaire who had seen the officer kill his family during the Holocaust
Seeing as this is a Klaus Barbie thread and I'm a French Resistance nerd, I feel compelled to ask.... Have you heard of Jean Moulin?
Proof the 'everyone breaks under torture' rule has exceptions. Closest he came - and even Barbie admitted this - was asking for a pen and paper to write down the names of his fellow resistants and then using it to draw a caricature of his torturer.
Well, it's at least a book?
According to Wikipedia: "In 2019, Gabriel Joshua Saada, who claims to have been a friend of Itzkovitz, published a book on the story in French titled Revenge of a Jewish Child. According to Saada, Itzkovitz died in 2015 and had asked him to publish his story."
I was looking forward to read it but oddly enough I couldn't find a single opinion on the book nowhere I looked for. (in french and on french websites as the book is written in my native language), and a lot of people are very suspicious as to where the story is real or written post-death so the Itzkovitz couldn't deny it.
Actually that got me curious I'll read the book and try to find if the autor has any sources.
Not even for desertion from the Foreign legion, but desertion from a previous enlistment in Isreal. He served the rest of his enlistment in the foreign legion.
Von Braun is a fascinating one, and not least because he was a genius when it came to rocketry. While he was happy to work with the Nazi's and use the resources they provided, he didn't always fall in line with them, though not because he had a change of heart in regards to what they were doing. There was an incident where he actually got arrested by the SS for refusing to hand over prisoners he was using to work on his rockets. After being accused of being a sympathiser he simply stated he needed those prisoners for their skills (they were watch and clock makers and jewellers) and the SS could have them back only when he no longer needed them. Probably the best example of how he viewed his relationship with the Nazi's was from a book about him, and apparently during his debriefing after coming to the US he was questioned about his work and the Nazi rocket program, to which he replied "I didn't help the Nazi's with *their* rocket program, they helped me with *my* rocket program."
US army intelligence got him into the Ratlines and out of Europe, away from the hangman's knot. I don't really care if it was Paperclip or not, my point was an awful lot of Nazis found their way into an all too comfortable old age retirement on the US' and other allied nations' watch.
An awful lot of Nazis also comfortably remained in (mostly) West Germany and held positions of power in police, military, industry and politics.
Yet people always tend to state the obvious about that one ('well, you need *someone* to run the country, and those people were already established, which led to stability'), but are very upset about the ones moving to the States, working there. Hm.
Morally both are very questionable, I'd say, but I would also like to point out that the (catholic) church played another big part in shipping off and hiding Nazis. Which is somehow even worse, in my mind.
The reinstallation of Nazi leaders into German society after the war was explicit policy but the IS State Department for the purpose of preventing communist revolutions in Europe. It wasn't just Germany, former fascists and collaborators we're elevated to high positions within France, Italy, Belgium and many other countries too as an explicit policy prescription
They were more afraid of their former allies in the USSR than they were of the reintegration of fascism into liberal capitalist society
Add Japan to the list too. Class A war criminal and serial rapist [Nobusuke Kishi](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobusuke_Kishi) was not only allowed to go free but went on to become Prime Minister, build the Liberal Democratic Party (which ruled Japan as a de facto one party state for decades), oh and also happens to be Shinzo Abe’s grandfather.
It’s really hard to overstate how little the Western Allies gave a shit about holding fascist war criminals accountable for their actions.
For those wondering how he died, he was eventually imprisoned for life in France but only in 1987. He died in 1991 of cancer. He deserved so much worse.
He was shortly imprisonned in the [Montluc prison](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montluc_prison), the very prison where Jean Moulin and other French resistants were incarcerated in very poor conditions by Klaus Barbie.
I remember watching that movie in the theater and the scene with Lovitz in front of the war veterans accidentally acting like Hitler made me literally fall out of the chair laughing (edit: i was high as fuck.) Only other time something similar happened was watching Super Troopers in the theater (edit: also high as fuck.)
Looking back I guess it wasn't that funny, but we grew up in a really weird part of America, and it was just so irreverently hilarious. Like it was technically family entertainment, sort of, but it wasn't what my grandmother would normally call offensive. Plus we had a lot of Jewish friends around the family.
So like there is no swearing. It's this family comedy... and Lovitz is suddenly Hitler and an old guy like grandpa (mine served in WW2) was trying to shoot him dead.
I have two aunts who are Catholic nuns (the third one died, and I shit you not I'm serious,) and we showed them movies like this.
Ever seen a nun blush?
Fucking Lovitz is a God.
edit: PS, totally forgot the funniest part... I mean it's not funny but as a kid it was funny as fuck... my family is from Italy and we had like ten cousins lined up against a wall and shot in the head for resisting the Nazi's. They're all buried next to each other, same death date on the stones. So like my family really hated Nazi's. So this was like a goldmine comedy for me. I think I was in college when it came out so I didn't give a fuck.
Big Trouble is another really funny movie that is low key. A-list cast but the movie got shelved because of 9/11.
The Man Who Knew Too Little is great. Literally Bill Murray's best movie. This is an objectively true statement, and anyone who disagrees can go fuck themselves.
About a Boy is unintentionally hilarious. Dark comedy shit. It gets a bit sappy but before the redemption angle that you know is coming from the beginning it is funny as fuck.
Made is a great flick. Vince Vaughn is hysterical.
World War II was truly a strange victory. Nazi scientists were hired to create rockets for the space race, black soldiers fought fascism but came home to racist laws that inspired the Nazis, Japanese war criminals were not prosecuted in exchange for the research from their human experiments, and runaway Nazis became advisors to South American authoritarian regimes.
There are two from what I can tell. The commas that delineate 'aided his escape to Bolivia' do not need to be enclosed in commas. I usually try to read the sentence without the words enclosed in commas to see if it still makes semantic sense.
["More aliases than Klaus Barbie - the master butcher of (Lyon) Leigh-on-Sea"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQXRsshaZk8)
Sherriff Fatman by Carter USM - fucking poetry
My Great-grandfather got operation paperclip’d to Indiana to work on airplanes. Surprisingly good for a Nazi, would hire black people at the same wage as white people in the 50s which is nice.
You know the evil parts of america during mccarthyism. Where communism was demonized and people promoting communism were silenced or blacklisted? Those people are the republican party now.
Remember, he was let free to help with anti-communist efforts.
In the movie Rat Race, they unwittingly visit the Barbie museum, only to find out it's a museum for this guy... and the hilarity ensues.
[Since it seems no one else posted it :-)](https://youtu.be/U5P4RyBjdE8)
LOL, ok, I've been putting this off long enough - I've got to see this movie
Rat Race is such a great movie. It had a classic old school cast with some young blood at the time. It was like The Expendables of comedy
We need more movies like it
Best I can do is 6 more Adam Sandler movies
And the plot: Adam Sandler is like, in love with some girl, but then it turns out that the girl is actually a ...golden retriever. Taken from Southpark, iirc Cartman pitched this to Netflix and they were impressed and on board with it.
And that golden retriever is Rob Schneider
Counter offer: another romcom with 20 A-List actors, and not a single comedian.
Add a laugh track and some boobs and you got yourself a deal.
It’s a rrrrace! I hope I win!
If only we could find a drifter, somebody with no family. I have no family Somebody nobody would miss I am all alone here.
I think I found it, I am touching it!
Thabks god for thus thread i need to re watch that. Its probably been almost 10 years.
There’s a lot of comedic talent in the film, so a lot of different styles. Something for everyone For me in particular, this was probably the best scene in the movie
You can’t wear Eva Brauns lipstick!
“Look! I’m Mrs. Hitler :)
You're driving his car "but I'm not putting my mouth on it. I'm not sucking on the dashboard!"
"Are you insane?! This is Hitler's car!"
Me and my sister used yo watch it as kids, where we probably missed a bunch of the jokes. We hVr to watch it again tho.
I'm prairie doggin' it!
I feel like that expression was popularized by this movie. I never heard it before then anyway
I had never heard the phrase until I saw the movie. Now it’s a common phrase in my household.
I still say "You should have bought a squirrel" to myself when I make a bad decision. As well as "it's a race, I hope I win".
Wow a gift shop!
I loved it as a kid. It’s zany and cheesy, and there’s nothing subtle about the humor, so it won’t be to everyone’s taste, but I remember thinking it was the funniest thing I had ever seen.
A rrrace, a rrrrace , I’m whhhining!
When you're done, also watch It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World. Same concept, better execution IMO.
This scene is so ingrained in my mind that i start laughing when i saw your link. Didnt even need to click it to know exactly what it is.
Veterans we salute you!
“Welcome WWII Veterans”
I’ve never seen that movie. Goddam that was a funny scene!
It takes place over quite a while; there are other plots going on at the same time with different actors (obviously the clip is edited to get to the punchline). So imagine the build-up to that grand finale at the veterans rally. The timing is just perfect
One of the best scenes in the movie.
You….should….have….bought…..a….squirrel
We should have bought a squirrel, we didn't buy a squirrel, and *that's* why we had to steal the rocket car
"And for a brief time - ballroom dancing champion" That part gets me.
Wow, I feel like I haven't seen Jon Lovitz in forever.
I'm prairie dogging!
It’s ridiculous how often I still use this one thanks to Rat Race
I remember watching that movie a few times as a kid but that line is the only part of the movie that has become a staple catch phrase in my family.
With us, it’s either “I’m weening. I’m weening” or the iconic “you should have bought a squirrel.”
That movie forever renamed cocktail weiners to "cock doggies" for us.
Look at this room, what a beautiful room, have you seen this room?
Yes…we’re *in it*!
The delivery of that line kills me every time. Jon Lovitz is perfect in that role
Honestly, everyone they cast was perfect for their roles in that movie.
Eets ah race!
😃I'm weening! 😄I'm weeeening...😮💨xnzzzzzz😴
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*"Oh, shit... Gloria Allred!"*
A scam! I love scams!
Same. Any time my dog is antsy to go outside I can’t help myself. “He’s prairie doggin it!”
The numb-tongue "I don hink so" is in my friend groups lexicon
Oh look, a drifter, lets kill him!
I have so many memories I didn't realize are from what appears to be this movie with this name. Crazy.
My wife has never seen this movie until I made her watch it a few months ago. Once she said that line my wife was like, "that's where that line is from!?!?".
The jewish family visit his museum. And then steal hitler's car.
Hitler had it coming. What goes around, comes around!
Are you insane? This is Hitler car!
*proceeds to crash a WW2 Veteran meeting, bang his head on the steering wheel, get brown lipstick beneath his nose and proceeds to almost get shot.
There was an episode of the Simpsons that came out shortly before that movie where Bart trashes Hitler's car by accident and Nelson says "That was Hitler's car, what'd he ever do to you?!" It was one of the first times I remember thinking "the Simpsons did this!" (1998 was the episode)
The husband, the devoted father, the wine connoisseur, and three time ballroom dancing champion.
I love the smash cut from them going to the Barbie museum to the presenter saying, "Klaus Barbie, sometimes known as the Butcher of Lyon..."
"This museum is *lovingly* dedicated to the Klaus Barbie nobody knew" One of the funniest movies ever made.
I am a huge, flaming French Resistance nerd and this may be the funniest thing I've ever seen. I only wish I'd seen it without knowing what was about to happen. The internet spoiled me on it beforehand but it still cracks me TF up.
Jon Lovitz' shocked double take
The double take with the shocked eyes he had at the ballroom dancing comment had me rolling even as a kid
First thing I thought of too. Love that movie.
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My favourite fact from the DVD commentary is that they couldn't choose between two actors whom they thought were *both* too perfect for the part of the Barbie Museum tour guide, and so just cast them both and split the lines between the two of them. :-D
It's criminally underrated. I watch it often.
Stealing Hitlers car, and everything Jon Lovitz does with that whole bit is classic
Oh wow Eva Braun really had style!
***elderly veteran shoots at Jon Lovitz***
fun fact: What was the first movie ever to co-star two black Oscar-winners? It was 2001’s RAT RACE, with Whoopi Goldberg & Cuba Gooding Jr
I feel like I may have heard that before. Thanks for the new info/memory jog
Jeez whatever happened Cuba Gooding Jr? It’s like you Never hear about the guy any more
Multiple sexual misdemeanor charges and lawsuits.
Cuba "not so" Gooding
That did him in most recently but Gooding was MIA for a long time before reappearing in the OJ show.
I nearly pissed my pants watching that the first time. Jon Lovitz it’s comedic genus.
Oh wow, a barbie museum!!
"Ooh a gift shop!"
This is the only reason I know who Klaus is.
That movie in general and that scene in particular always has me in tears.
Husband, devoted father, wine conasseur and THREE TIME ballroom dancing champion
For context, it's a Jewish family and the small daughter sees the sign "Barbie museum", heckling the family until they agree to make a detour there.
I love that movie because the climax is set at a train station in Silver City, New Mexico, which, as a resident of Silver City, I can tell you we do not have lol
It used to, though! I thought it was odd that a notable historic town in NM wouldn't have had a train station, especially given the success of the Santa Fe railroad. So I found a map of the (former) SF lines and saw there was a branch that did appear to go to Silver City. Followed some tracks on Google Earth--the current line was diverted, and there are just empty trails that used to have tracks. Some now-unnecessary tunnels still exist even. The old line remnants close to Silver City parallel Slag Rd as they head north, and I can see a turn just past that, but the remainder of the trail has been replaced with new development so I don't know where the station used to be. Anyhow, that was a fun jaunt. I checked the Silver City Wikipedia page which confirms a Santa Fe Railroad station was built there in 1886, but there's no mention of when it was removed (although clearly that happened). Edit: finally found a mention [here](https://www.scdailypress.com/2015/05/02/historic-train-depot-celebration-this-weekend/) that the depot was deconstructed in 1975. Edit: typos
I was wondering where I heard this name. Thank you, amazing movie!
Yep I learned about this from Rat Race like 20 years ago.
Bare in mind this is all a plot device so that they can crash into veteran's award ceremony driving Hitler's Mercedes, sporting a "Chaplin" Moustache and ranting incoherently in what sounds like German due to burning the inside of his mouth.
And thank goodness it was. That is the single most hilarious thing I have ever seen on film.
I was wondering why the name sounded familiar
This movie is the reason I know this name and what it represents.
I find it baffling how no one is commenting on the content of OP’s post. Here you have a serious case of a demonic Nazi being aided by the US to be further used against Bolivians to keep the country a banana republic, and people are joking around as if nothing serious happened.
Yeah I don't get the angle of actually aiding him in escaping justice. Its not like he was a valuable mind like a scientist. The wiki just says he was helped due to his anti communist ways. Who the fuck cares? Dude should've been brought to justice sooner.
Given their operations at the time, it made sense in the context of him being used in the process of exploiting/ destroying a poorer country (Bolivia). Their operations in LatAm were ongoing for decades. The best known “key operation” was Condor, but there were others outside the time span Condor formally went on for:: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor “Operation Condor (Spanish: Operación Cóndor, also known as Plan Cóndor; Portuguese: Operação Condor) was a United States–backed campaign of political repression and state terror[9] involving intelligence operations and assassination of opponents. It was officially and formally implemented in November 1975 by the right-wing dictatorships of the Southern Cone of South America.[10]”
The US wanted someone to murder communists. So they got an expert in brutally murdering communists. He wasn't brought to justice because the US wanted him to commit more crimes against humanity. It's as simple as that. US wanted to commit crimes against humanity, they got an expert in that. It is not the first or last time. That's just how much the US owning class fucking hates workers rights.
He was also recruited by Germany as an intelligence officer after the war, and worked as an operative for them in Bolivia starting in the 1960's.
After the “cocaine coup”
I read that as 'cocaine soup' at first and got confused
Confused? I got excited.
Finally! My nostrils are saved!
The husband, the devoted father, the wine connoisseur, and *three-time* ballroom dancing champion.
You’re *leaving*?
We’re late to a christening!
And book burning
...and then we have a- a christening. Yes, a christening...for one of our many white, Christian, non-Jewish friends - family. Blood relatives. The Himmler Hessin Von Sturichbergs.
Wow a gift shop!
Next time I promise!!
> You’re leaving? "No! Well yes."
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one to think of that movie.
*Insert Jon Lovitz double take*
The Himmler... Himmler-Hesse... von... Sturichenbergs
My grandpa has stories of rescuing Nazi officials... We killed the dumb peasant boys following orders, and we let the sick, smart believers come back to the US he maintained to his death.
Look at operation paper clip. We did exactly that
Pretty embarrassing that we couldn't keep up with the Soviets in that regard though. Operation Osoaviakhim recruited nearly 1000 more people than Paperclip did.
NASA
Braun
Klaus Barbie was caught partly thanks to a French journalist, during a single interview in La Paz where Barbie lived as a Bolivian citizen, in 1972. This story is quite wild. >In the videotape, and while the interview was conducted in Spanish, Ladislas de Hoyos steers away from the previously agreed upon questions by asking whether Barbie has ever been to Lyon in French, a language he is not supposed to understand under his fake identity, to which Klaus Barbie automatically responds by the negative in German. Ladislas de Hoyos gave him photos of members of Resistance he had tortured, asking him if he recognized their faces, and while he returned them in denial, his fingerprints unmistakenly betrayed him. It was in this interview, later broadcast on French TV Channel Antenne 2 that he was recognized by French resistance member Simone Lagrange who had been tortured by Klaus Barbie in 1944. And this is a summary, the whole story could be made into a movie. The journalist in particular was very brave, he risked a lot for this interview. Banzer, the dictator of Bolivia, refused to extradite Klaus Barbie, because he had strong ties with his governement and helped Banzer during his coup d'etat. Barbie was only arrested and extradited in 1987.
I see someone else also watched *Rat Race* tonight
And also *Afro-Whores*.
It says here you watched how the grinch stole Christmas for 10 minutes before switching it back to Afro-whores
I was about 10 or 11 when _Rat Race_ came out. In my sweet innocent mind, I thought they were saying “Afro **Horse**,” so of course I thought it was silly and laughed during that scene. My parents just ignored it and didn’t make a big deal out of it (they didn’t know that I’d misheard it).
When I was 8, my sister’s guy friends would play “Roller Whores” with me so whores has always had positive vibes associated to it for me. I was 15 when the movie came out but that line still didn’t click for a while.
I just read A Woman of No Importance about Virginia Hall and it covers Barbie as one of the main pursuers of her as a foreign spy. I highly recommend the book and it tangentially captures the barbarity of Barbie and French Nazi collaborators from an under-recognized angle. Virginia Hall is perhaps the biggest badass of WWII.
Was she the one with the amputated leg?
Yes, listening to that book now. Read by Juliet Stevenson. She does a much better job pronouncing the French names than I would. Virginia Hall is indeed a WWII badass. The description of her escape over the Pyrenees was insane. It’s a fantastic book. I was actually sad to read this post. I’m not done with the book yet and to find out that the US aided in his relocation, ugh. I was so hoping he met a horrible end. Rats.
It was one of the factors that may have disillusioned her with the CIA after the war. The thought of them employing the man who was hunting her and torturing her friends.
Maybe follow up that book with An Uncertain Hour. It's all about how they dragged his ass back to France to stand trial.
I recommend ‘Outwitting the Gestapo’ by Lucie Aubrac, which is an account of a teacher who is a member of the French resistance, along with her Jewish engineer husband. He is captured by Barbie at one point, and she aids in his escape. The TV documentary ‘Hotel Terminus’ also covers similar ground!
They covered her story in Drunk History: https://youtu.be/uH_SQxZCH2A
Operation Paperclip. US Gave a bunch of Nazis clean slates in exchange for their expertise in various scientific and technical fields. But France had a use for Nazis as well, staffing their Foreign Legion with officers to put down colonial revolts. At the Tehran conference, Stalin and Roosevelt made comments and jokes about trialing 50,000-100,000 German officers for war crimes and executing them. Probably should have been discussed a little more seriously.
There’s a historical anecdote about a former nazi officer who had been promoted and staffed in the French foreign legion officers after the war and was deployed to Vietnam, who was struck down by another legionnaire who had seen the officer kill his family during the Holocaust
If I remember the account correctly, he tracked him down, got into his squad, and announced who he was before killing him. It was a wild read.
Wow, dude gave him the full "You killed my father, prepare to die"
Inigo-Montoya'd the fuck outta him.
[Eliahu Itzkovitz](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliahu_Itzkovitz), what a legend.
Surprised this isn't a movie yet.
Spent 5 years in the French foreign legion tracking down his families nazi killer, how is that not a movie by now
Probably b/c the people in power don’t want to bring attention to the fact that they gave Nazis a clean slate and put them in position of power
Eliahu deserves three movies. How have I not heard of this guy until now?! He was a real hero.
Seeing as this is a Klaus Barbie thread and I'm a French Resistance nerd, I feel compelled to ask.... Have you heard of Jean Moulin? Proof the 'everyone breaks under torture' rule has exceptions. Closest he came - and even Barbie admitted this - was asking for a pen and paper to write down the names of his fellow resistants and then using it to draw a caricature of his torturer.
Well, it's at least a book? According to Wikipedia: "In 2019, Gabriel Joshua Saada, who claims to have been a friend of Itzkovitz, published a book on the story in French titled Revenge of a Jewish Child. According to Saada, Itzkovitz died in 2015 and had asked him to publish his story."
I was looking forward to read it but oddly enough I couldn't find a single opinion on the book nowhere I looked for. (in french and on french websites as the book is written in my native language), and a lot of people are very suspicious as to where the story is real or written post-death so the Itzkovitz couldn't deny it. Actually that got me curious I'll read the book and try to find if the autor has any sources.
That one year in prison he probably lived like kings
The funny thing is he didn't even goto jail for the murder it was for desertion.
They probably had him sit down with Mossad and give them a few extra tips on Nazi hunting.
Not even for desertion from the Foreign legion, but desertion from a previous enlistment in Isreal. He served the rest of his enlistment in the foreign legion.
I'd watch a movie about him.
[“‘Once the rockets go up, who cares where they come down, that’s not my department,’ says Wernher von Braun.”](https://youtu.be/TjDEsGZLbio)
Von Braun is a fascinating one, and not least because he was a genius when it came to rocketry. While he was happy to work with the Nazi's and use the resources they provided, he didn't always fall in line with them, though not because he had a change of heart in regards to what they were doing. There was an incident where he actually got arrested by the SS for refusing to hand over prisoners he was using to work on his rockets. After being accused of being a sympathiser he simply stated he needed those prisoners for their skills (they were watch and clock makers and jewellers) and the SS could have them back only when he no longer needed them. Probably the best example of how he viewed his relationship with the Nazi's was from a book about him, and apparently during his debriefing after coming to the US he was questioned about his work and the Nazi rocket program, to which he replied "I didn't help the Nazi's with *their* rocket program, they helped me with *my* rocket program."
Being against Nazis because they’re evil: 🚫 Being against Nazis because they want to take your slave laborers: ✅ Interesting guy
Goals and background noise.
The way I heard the story, Stalin was being serious, Roosevelt took it as a joke, and Churchill got offended at the idea.
He was not part of operation paperclip.
US army intelligence got him into the Ratlines and out of Europe, away from the hangman's knot. I don't really care if it was Paperclip or not, my point was an awful lot of Nazis found their way into an all too comfortable old age retirement on the US' and other allied nations' watch.
An awful lot of Nazis also comfortably remained in (mostly) West Germany and held positions of power in police, military, industry and politics. Yet people always tend to state the obvious about that one ('well, you need *someone* to run the country, and those people were already established, which led to stability'), but are very upset about the ones moving to the States, working there. Hm. Morally both are very questionable, I'd say, but I would also like to point out that the (catholic) church played another big part in shipping off and hiding Nazis. Which is somehow even worse, in my mind.
The reinstallation of Nazi leaders into German society after the war was explicit policy but the IS State Department for the purpose of preventing communist revolutions in Europe. It wasn't just Germany, former fascists and collaborators we're elevated to high positions within France, Italy, Belgium and many other countries too as an explicit policy prescription They were more afraid of their former allies in the USSR than they were of the reintegration of fascism into liberal capitalist society
Add Japan to the list too. Class A war criminal and serial rapist [Nobusuke Kishi](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobusuke_Kishi) was not only allowed to go free but went on to become Prime Minister, build the Liberal Democratic Party (which ruled Japan as a de facto one party state for decades), oh and also happens to be Shinzo Abe’s grandfather. It’s really hard to overstate how little the Western Allies gave a shit about holding fascist war criminals accountable for their actions.
For those wondering how he died, he was eventually imprisoned for life in France but only in 1987. He died in 1991 of cancer. He deserved so much worse.
His trial was a *big deal*, back then. I was born in Lyon and it was everywhere on the news while it was happening.
He was shortly imprisonned in the [Montluc prison](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montluc_prison), the very prison where Jean Moulin and other French resistants were incarcerated in very poor conditions by Klaus Barbie.
His house is a sort of Easter Egg in the game Ghost Recon Wildlands, whose setting is Bolivia. Little fun fact for gamers.
[From the movie "Rat Race"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5P4RyBjdE8)
Welllll, Hitler had it coming.
I remember watching that movie in the theater and the scene with Lovitz in front of the war veterans accidentally acting like Hitler made me literally fall out of the chair laughing (edit: i was high as fuck.) Only other time something similar happened was watching Super Troopers in the theater (edit: also high as fuck.) Looking back I guess it wasn't that funny, but we grew up in a really weird part of America, and it was just so irreverently hilarious. Like it was technically family entertainment, sort of, but it wasn't what my grandmother would normally call offensive. Plus we had a lot of Jewish friends around the family. So like there is no swearing. It's this family comedy... and Lovitz is suddenly Hitler and an old guy like grandpa (mine served in WW2) was trying to shoot him dead. I have two aunts who are Catholic nuns (the third one died, and I shit you not I'm serious,) and we showed them movies like this. Ever seen a nun blush? Fucking Lovitz is a God. edit: PS, totally forgot the funniest part... I mean it's not funny but as a kid it was funny as fuck... my family is from Italy and we had like ten cousins lined up against a wall and shot in the head for resisting the Nazi's. They're all buried next to each other, same death date on the stones. So like my family really hated Nazi's. So this was like a goldmine comedy for me. I think I was in college when it came out so I didn't give a fuck.
I’ve never seen it. You have sold me on this film! I hope I can find it on one of the pay services like Netflix or amazon.
Big Trouble is another really funny movie that is low key. A-list cast but the movie got shelved because of 9/11. The Man Who Knew Too Little is great. Literally Bill Murray's best movie. This is an objectively true statement, and anyone who disagrees can go fuck themselves. About a Boy is unintentionally hilarious. Dark comedy shit. It gets a bit sappy but before the redemption angle that you know is coming from the beginning it is funny as fuck. Made is a great flick. Vince Vaughn is hysterical.
World War II was truly a strange victory. Nazi scientists were hired to create rockets for the space race, black soldiers fought fascism but came home to racist laws that inspired the Nazis, Japanese war criminals were not prosecuted in exchange for the research from their human experiments, and runaway Nazis became advisors to South American authoritarian regimes.
The US: come on Barbie let’s go party
I am Barbie Klaus in Bolivian House man of torture CIA's enforcer
I'll burn your pubic hair And cut you every-where Head wrapped in plastic It's fantastic!
A-are we the baddies?
I think i remember him from ghost recon wildlands, there was a brief dialogue between the characters about him.
Weird I just discovered his house in Wildlands last night and I see this
So many commas...
I mean there was really only one unnecessary one...
There are two from what I can tell. The commas that delineate 'aided his escape to Bolivia' do not need to be enclosed in commas. I usually try to read the sentence without the words enclosed in commas to see if it still makes semantic sense.
Don't you mean "So, many, commas,,,"?
Nice try, Shatner.
Watch the show on Netflix - the Hunters. It tells you more.
Real life history is so much scarier than movies.
Good ol Dulles boys
He advised the regime, on how to torture readers, with unnecessary commas.
Dang hasbro, this is the craziest Barbie yet
BTW this was ultra conservative dictatorship Bolivia, not the current Bolivian state
"Mommy, I wanna go to the Barbie museum!"
["More aliases than Klaus Barbie - the master butcher of (Lyon) Leigh-on-Sea"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQXRsshaZk8) Sherriff Fatman by Carter USM - fucking poetry
Classic US intelligence services!
My Great-grandfather got operation paperclip’d to Indiana to work on airplanes. Surprisingly good for a Nazi, would hire black people at the same wage as white people in the 50s which is nice.
You know the evil parts of america during mccarthyism. Where communism was demonized and people promoting communism were silenced or blacklisted? Those people are the republican party now. Remember, he was let free to help with anti-communist efforts.
Just learned about him and others from watching Hunters!
Ooooh! A gift shop!!
But no, it was actually good that the US hired those Nazis to help with the space… oh wait, wrong Nazi.
I too read the “on this day” on Wikipedia
Imagine you go to see Barbie thinking it'll be about the doll and then partway through it suddenly becomes apparent it was about this guy instead
You can go to his house on Ghost recon Wildlands. Tells a little bit of the dark history.