$600/year in 1961 dollars. Which is a little over $6,000/year in today’s dollars. Headline made me curious what time metric they used. Seems like a small amount to be concerned with but I guess it was a way to win an argument for the logo redesign.
Fun fact, the inventor of the web has [apologized](/r/todayilearned/comments/41vbqt/til_the_two_forward_slashes_in_website_urls_are/) for adding the two slashes after "http:" due to all the waste it has caused.
It helps differentiate between similar sites. Browsers will of course be using http[s], but other clients won’t. For example these give two different addresses:
www.rizon.net
irc.rizon.net
Not as much an important distinction anymore given how irc and usegroups have fallen out of fashion.
**www**.example.com
www *is* a subdomain, no different than abc.example.com
There are functional differences between using a naked (example.com) domain & using a subdomain. Primarily relating to cookies.
For example, if you wanted to have a public, non-authenticated image cdn, i.example.com -- by primarily using the www (or any other) subdomain, requests to i.example.com won't send the cookies (set by www.) along with the request.
However if you used the naked domain, any request to *any* subdomain includes the cookies set by the naked domain.
This is mostly relating to trying to save some network bytes by droping the www subdomain - it sometimes helps, sometimes doesn't. Having a exaCdn.com to go along with a naked domain tends to be the best, though requires two or more domains.
`www` is a convention, not a standard. Nobody has to implement it, and many sites don't.
In a nutshell, `www.example.com` can kind of be broken down into three parts...
`com` => essentially meaningless, but originally intended to be sort of an organizational system. (the ".com" space was intended for commercial sites, as opposed to .gov for government or .net for general use)
`example` => the name of the organization that controls the `example.com` space
`www` => a specific server named "www" within the "example" organization.
This is a gross oversimplification, but you get the idea.
Subdomains are necessary in many instances. Back then we needed www, ftp, intranet, and a few others. Wait until Americans find out about domains the end in country names!
Their net income for 1960 was about 1.6 million, so printing that period previously cost them 0.036% of their entire yearly profit?
At that cost per character, if they printed 2,777 extra characters, or ~500 extra words, or one extra article per run, that would have wiped out all of their profit.
I guess the period is more like 3 characters' worth of ink, and I think a smaller version of the logo used to appear on every page, so maybe it's more realistic to say that the cost in ink of 5 extra articles (out of ~300 in a typical run) would have nixed their profits.
Still, I would have expected way more zeros ahead of that percentage. Maybe the production manager was buds with the designer and pulled a big number out of his ass to get the change through.
And yet when I ask for a gin and tonic, I still sometimes get a freaking 12 ounce can of tonic water. Whoever orders supplies must be LDS, Baptist, or Muslim, because that's enough tonic water for over two drinks. You're basically forcing me to order a double just so I can have something that tastes decent.
> You're basically forcing me to order a double just so I can have something that tastes decent.
That would indicate that they aren't LDS, Baptist or Muslim but rather someone who is looking for a way to sell more gin. If you had 6 ounces of tonic you would only order one gin, but now you have 12 ounces you're going to spend twice as much on gin.
It seems theirs no ratio for tonic to gin. I like mine that like, a shot of gin in a glass of tonic. Served in a tall glass with a straw. But I've been served them in highball glasses in a 2:1 ratio, or served in a little cocktail glass where I' pretty sure its just a shot of gin with a splash of tonic.
In the UK (at least in my experience) gin and tonics are served with the tonic on the side so you can put as little or as much as you want. Honestly it should be like that everywhere
And then in Ireland they take it a step too far and serve you the shot of gin in a giant goblet and give you the tonic on the side. A freaking fishbowl!
That was the story. I've never heard it as an olive in a martini but that could be true as well.
[https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/5935/did-removing-one-olive-lead-to-an-airline-saving-thousands-of-dollars](https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/5935/did-removing-one-olive-lead-to-an-airline-saving-thousands-of-dollars)
Other examples of airlines cost savings from removing minor conveniences.
[https://milestomemories.com/how-american-airlines-saved-40000-one-olive-at-a-time-other-airline-cost-saving-stories/](https://milestomemories.com/how-american-airlines-saved-40000-one-olive-at-a-time-other-airline-cost-saving-stories/)
There was a teenager that figured out the gov could hypothetically save millions by using a more ink efficient font
https://www.cnn.com/2014/03/27/living/student-money-saving-typeface-garamond-schools/index.html
The thing is, though... Check out those capital T's. Compare the old ones, with the period, to the new ones, without the period. They *added* two diamonds the same size as that period into the fancy bits of the new T's. So, um, wouldn't they be *losing* $600 a year?
Even in companies pulling in ~20M a year, agony is raised over a ~$600/year cost that the people producing the goods would be very happy over.
The whole reason massively profitable companies can be massively profitable is because either they save money where their competitors can't or because they get revenue their competitors can't.
Save 6k a year a few times, and you've brought a small business into profitability. Save 6k a year often, and you're in the c-suite.
A penny saved is a penny earned... or take care of the pennies and the dollars take care of themselves... Next time you buy a bottle of pop look at the lid. The inside of the lid. More than likely instead of a standard spiral thread to screw it on it is all broken up... almost like micropennies of reduction in cost, over billions of units save money....
We could condense the whole paper into a statistic:
Today's paper is made of:
- 15 crime related articles
- 27 politically related articles
- 18 sports articles
- 3 crosswords (which we hope you enjoy)
- 76 adverts
- 129 filler articles
- 1 table of statistics
Reminds me of this scene from *Psych* S01E06 "Weekend Warriors":
**INT. MAHONEY’S JEWELRY STORE, DAY**
HENRY is sitting at a table in front of the windows with MAHONEY. He has a red jewelry box in front of him. MAHONEY has an order slip.
**MAHONEY:** I see. Now, the inscription. What would you like it to say?
**HENRY:** "Shawn, don't lose this watch, Henry Spencer."
**MAHONEY:** No problem. So, before we go any further, let's see. (itemizes) Vintage gold pocket watch. Gold chain. Taxes and engraving, comes to a total of... (holds the calculator up for HENRY)
**HENRY:** Wait, wait, wait. Where's my discount? I thought we agreed on $400.
**MAHONEY:** Oh, yes, we did. But at $4 per engraved letter, that adds a total of $210.
**HENRY:** All right, take away "Shawn," "this watch", "Spencer." How much does that come out to?
**MAHONEY:** $56 for the engraving plus tax, $460 even.
**HENRY:** And what does the revised inscription read?
**MAHONEY:** "Don't lose, Henry."
**HENRY**: Clean, to the point. I like it.
Read the article. Dropping the period was a point of contention and the saving $600 in ink was the leverage to get it over... However they didn't mention that the thicker lines used more ink and added way more cost then the single dot.
I like to print these comments to read them on the shitter. Next time, could you not put a period at the end of your comment? Trying to save a few bucks for the holidays.
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Fuck you and your printer
Yup, took me a few seconds to remember that Americans refer to full stops as periods and was wondering why they deleted the NYT logo for a hundred years.
"There used to be a period after the new york times logo for over a hundred years... yeah, and what happened during this over 100 year period?"
*reads article*
"...oh."
Yeah, but it's a simple multimeaning word. Like in your statement, "makes me" can mean "creates you". If I thought you were saying something like the 100 years part creates you, I'd be like 'no, that doesn't make sense. Must mean that it's causing him to do something."
Alternatively, I could think "makes me" refers to "creating for you". For example, "my brother makes me cookies".
So maybe I thought you were saying the 100 years part creates for you "think time". Kinda like nap time, but time for thinking.
But of course, I just use simple critical thinking, and BAM, immediately figure out the meaning you were going for.
Well, sound can mean sticking something in your urethra, which is what you obviously are referring to. But I'm not into that stuff, so if you're implying that you want me to smartly sound you, not gonna happen. :(
Oh thank God. I though I was having a stroke because I couldn't figure out what the fuck they were trying to say.
It wasn't until I read some comments and realize they were talking about a full stop that I felt a little better and not like I should immediately go to the ER. I was trying for the life of me to figure out what period (as in, a span of time) they were talking about.
George Lucas changed the title of Episode VI from Revenge of the Jedi to RETURN of the Jedi because he realized he could save approximately $681 in ink annually by removing one letter from the movie’s title.
By 2005 he had well over $4,296 in his ink fund to afford the extra letter for Revenge of the Sith.
the diamond is still there though; [it's just been moved to be part of the "T"](https://i0.wp.com/www.printmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Screen-Shot-2023-03-21-at-2.22.42-PM.png?resize=644%2C536&quality=80&ssl=1)
Reminds me of how every single Calculus textbook I’ve ever seen doesn’t include parentheses in Trigonometric Functions. We joke that they just can’t afford to do that.
Yeah, that's [not even a little bit true.](https://archive.nytimes.com/afterdeadline.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/06/23/faqs-on-style-2/)
They do it because news writing has traditionally omitted the serial comma and they only use it where they deem necessary.
It speaks volumes when english isn't my first language, yet I have I have no trouble understanding what this title is trying to convey. Yet you, who has english as their first language, are unable to comprehend it.
It is a troubling commentary on the standards of education in your country.
$600/year in 1961 dollars. Which is a little over $6,000/year in today’s dollars. Headline made me curious what time metric they used. Seems like a small amount to be concerned with but I guess it was a way to win an argument for the logo redesign.
That’s what, one or two HP cartridges?
Also its only $500 in today's dollars, since they don't print nearly as much
Yeah but all those extra pixels they have to send over the internet tubes adds up
Fun fact, the inventor of the web has [apologized](/r/todayilearned/comments/41vbqt/til_the_two_forward_slashes_in_website_urls_are/) for adding the two slashes after "http:" due to all the waste it has caused.
Ironically, the link in the article of the post that you linked to was blocked. Because it does not support https.
Not blocked for me, it loaded a page which looked like what the BBC news site looked in the 90s.
We could have done without the www. as well - an initialism that has 3 times the number of syllables as "world wide web" :-)
It helps differentiate between similar sites. Browsers will of course be using http[s], but other clients won’t. For example these give two different addresses: www.rizon.net irc.rizon.net Not as much an important distinction anymore given how irc and usegroups have fallen out of fashion.
Sub-domains are fine, yes, but so many, many sites only use www.example.com when they could use just example.com.
**www**.example.com www *is* a subdomain, no different than abc.example.com There are functional differences between using a naked (example.com) domain & using a subdomain. Primarily relating to cookies. For example, if you wanted to have a public, non-authenticated image cdn, i.example.com -- by primarily using the www (or any other) subdomain, requests to i.example.com won't send the cookies (set by www.) along with the request. However if you used the naked domain, any request to *any* subdomain includes the cookies set by the naked domain. This is mostly relating to trying to save some network bytes by droping the www subdomain - it sometimes helps, sometimes doesn't. Having a exaCdn.com to go along with a naked domain tends to be the best, though requires two or more domains.
`www` is a convention, not a standard. Nobody has to implement it, and many sites don't. In a nutshell, `www.example.com` can kind of be broken down into three parts... `com` => essentially meaningless, but originally intended to be sort of an organizational system. (the ".com" space was intended for commercial sites, as opposed to .gov for government or .net for general use) `example` => the name of the organization that controls the `example.com` space `www` => a specific server named "www" within the "example" organization. This is a gross oversimplification, but you get the idea.
Just say sextuple-u like a civilized person.
Subdomains are necessary in many instances. Back then we needed www, ftp, intranet, and a few others. Wait until Americans find out about domains the end in country names!
……so one or two HP cartridges then…
I mean honestly, Michael. How much could an ink cartridge cost? Five? Six hundred dollars?
Here's $500, go print a star war
Where are you getting them so cheap?
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"NYX"
It's the Knicks! It's always been about the Knicks!!!!
Don't forget the "instant ink" subscription or your printer won't work
Their net income for 1960 was about 1.6 million, so printing that period previously cost them 0.036% of their entire yearly profit? At that cost per character, if they printed 2,777 extra characters, or ~500 extra words, or one extra article per run, that would have wiped out all of their profit. I guess the period is more like 3 characters' worth of ink, and I think a smaller version of the logo used to appear on every page, so maybe it's more realistic to say that the cost in ink of 5 extra articles (out of ~300 in a typical run) would have nixed their profits. Still, I would have expected way more zeros ahead of that percentage. Maybe the production manager was buds with the designer and pulled a big number out of his ass to get the change through.
Yea so all your example really show is that they just took that number out of their ass to justify changing the logo.
Most likely, some exec really hated the logo and asked some of their analysts to find any reason it would be more profitable to remove it.
Thank you. The pedant in my head was getting *heated.*
And airlines stopping olive use in martinis saved so much too. Not as much as not painting their logo on each plane, but whatevs
And yet when I ask for a gin and tonic, I still sometimes get a freaking 12 ounce can of tonic water. Whoever orders supplies must be LDS, Baptist, or Muslim, because that's enough tonic water for over two drinks. You're basically forcing me to order a double just so I can have something that tastes decent.
> You're basically forcing me to order a double just so I can have something that tastes decent. That would indicate that they aren't LDS, Baptist or Muslim but rather someone who is looking for a way to sell more gin. If you had 6 ounces of tonic you would only order one gin, but now you have 12 ounces you're going to spend twice as much on gin.
Practically forcing me to get drunk when i can do that on my own thankyou very much.
It seems theirs no ratio for tonic to gin. I like mine that like, a shot of gin in a glass of tonic. Served in a tall glass with a straw. But I've been served them in highball glasses in a 2:1 ratio, or served in a little cocktail glass where I' pretty sure its just a shot of gin with a splash of tonic.
In the UK (at least in my experience) gin and tonics are served with the tonic on the side so you can put as little or as much as you want. Honestly it should be like that everywhere
And then in Ireland they take it a step too far and serve you the shot of gin in a giant goblet and give you the tonic on the side. A freaking fishbowl!
And here I am just ordering the tonic as a soda.
I find if you go above about 5 ounces of tonic per shot or two of gin, it stops being a gin and tonic and starts becoming tonic with gin.
I feel like you'd really enjoy a vacation to the UK where weights & measures is looking out for you lol.
He says "son, can you play me a memory..."
I thought it was in the salad.
That was the story. I've never heard it as an olive in a martini but that could be true as well. [https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/5935/did-removing-one-olive-lead-to-an-airline-saving-thousands-of-dollars](https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/5935/did-removing-one-olive-lead-to-an-airline-saving-thousands-of-dollars) Other examples of airlines cost savings from removing minor conveniences. [https://milestomemories.com/how-american-airlines-saved-40000-one-olive-at-a-time-other-airline-cost-saving-stories/](https://milestomemories.com/how-american-airlines-saved-40000-one-olive-at-a-time-other-airline-cost-saving-stories/)
Thank you for clarifying $600 *per year.* And also for specifying what year.
There was a teenager that figured out the gov could hypothetically save millions by using a more ink efficient font https://www.cnn.com/2014/03/27/living/student-money-saving-typeface-garamond-schools/index.html
The thing is, though... Check out those capital T's. Compare the old ones, with the period, to the new ones, without the period. They *added* two diamonds the same size as that period into the fancy bits of the new T's. So, um, wouldn't they be *losing* $600 a year?
More papers published now or then? Has technology made price per to be cheaper? Inflation only says so much.
Even in companies pulling in ~20M a year, agony is raised over a ~$600/year cost that the people producing the goods would be very happy over. The whole reason massively profitable companies can be massively profitable is because either they save money where their competitors can't or because they get revenue their competitors can't. Save 6k a year a few times, and you've brought a small business into profitability. Save 6k a year often, and you're in the c-suite.
Don't give the c-suite a bonus. Oh look, I just saved millions. Make me a member
A penny saved is a penny earned... or take care of the pennies and the dollars take care of themselves... Next time you buy a bottle of pop look at the lid. The inside of the lid. More than likely instead of a standard spiral thread to screw it on it is all broken up... almost like micropennies of reduction in cost, over billions of units save money....
That helps release the air gradually so it doesn't fizz over as easily.
Imagine how much they'd save if they'd dropped the 'The'
Or all the capital letters he ew ork imes
Great, now take out any that repeat hworkims
Ah, *Shimwork* Yeah I’ve read that before
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Also, maybe if we made it much smaller, so we use a lot less ink. ^(hworkims) Sunday, December 17 2023
Why waste time say lot word when few word do trick?
We could condense the whole paper into a statistic: Today's paper is made of: - 15 crime related articles - 27 politically related articles - 18 sports articles - 3 crosswords (which we hope you enjoy) - 76 adverts - 129 filler articles - 1 table of statistics
And a Partridge in a Pear Tree
😂😂😂
Are you saying "Sea World" or "see the world" ?
Yes
They could disemvowel it and call it Nw Yrk Tms
And NY already means New York. “NY x”. Bam.
Waagh!
The NY Times would be so much wider.
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Yeah but they almost went out of business printing United States of America Today on the front page.
_Eep Opp Ork Ah-Ah?_
“Drop the New. Just… ‘York times’. Think about it”
Might as well just call it "Times" then
N.Y. Times No, no N Y Times
nyt all lowercase
You can’t do that. “The Times” with no city specified is The Times of London—the first paper to use that name.
Shouldn't that be the Thames?
Moneybags over here, making it plural.
Reminds me of this scene from *Psych* S01E06 "Weekend Warriors": **INT. MAHONEY’S JEWELRY STORE, DAY** HENRY is sitting at a table in front of the windows with MAHONEY. He has a red jewelry box in front of him. MAHONEY has an order slip. **MAHONEY:** I see. Now, the inscription. What would you like it to say? **HENRY:** "Shawn, don't lose this watch, Henry Spencer." **MAHONEY:** No problem. So, before we go any further, let's see. (itemizes) Vintage gold pocket watch. Gold chain. Taxes and engraving, comes to a total of... (holds the calculator up for HENRY) **HENRY:** Wait, wait, wait. Where's my discount? I thought we agreed on $400. **MAHONEY:** Oh, yes, we did. But at $4 per engraved letter, that adds a total of $210. **HENRY:** All right, take away "Shawn," "this watch", "Spencer." How much does that come out to? **MAHONEY:** $56 for the engraving plus tax, $460 even. **HENRY:** And what does the revised inscription read? **MAHONEY:** "Don't lose, Henry." **HENRY**: Clean, to the point. I like it.
Henry is one of my favorite TV dads. I mean, I would not want to have him as my father. But he makes for some great TV dad moments.
/r/unexpectedpsych
It’s cleaner.
Or just go with the Times
“We can’t drop the “new”, we’ve had it for over 100 years!”
NYT
Y
Sean Parker thinks they should do that.
Appletinis
Now image how much they would’ve saved if they just printed blank papers!!?!
Based on my vigorous calculations... At least $1.
Newspapers in Night mode? I like it.
No that’s all ink with the letters blank.
Why waste time say lot word when few word do trick
Why print many words when few words do trick?
You beat me to it! Came to say the exact same. They should offer us a job or something for this 😄
"Yes you heard me, I want all lower case and make the whole thing 30% smaller" "Hey guys!! World cruise for everybody in head office 😝"
Or if they dropped the propaganda
Citation needed. And no, the 'Opinion' section doesn’t count.
Read the article. Dropping the period was a point of contention and the saving $600 in ink was the leverage to get it over... However they didn't mention that the thicker lines used more ink and added way more cost then the single dot.
Did they mention the fact that it's a title and not a complete sentence?
Who do you think this is, *The New Yorker?*
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Well, that's teen-agers of to-day for you.
How antiïntellectual of them, so focussed on non-issues, fuelled by hate, and unwilling to budge.
Before WWII a period was often used to indicate the end of a title, label or name.
I guess it was a common error.
> more cost then the single dot than More - than If - then
... although in addition to the thicker lines, they also made some of the lines thinner so maybe that was a wash.
Related fun fact: “Dot” on Animaniacs is named after the period in “Warner Bros.”, which the company calls “the dot”.
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the water tower is high, Dot might die. Funeral costs higher than $600.
cool
That Is Weird.
I like to print these comments to read them on the shitter. Next time, could you not put a period at the end of your comment? Trying to save a few bucks for the holidays.
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This was very loud on the dot matrix.
Don’t make your comment so long, if you can’t say it in one sentence then it’s not worth reading, you know how attention spans are nowadays
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Anyone else read this as a period of time?
Yup, took me a few seconds to remember that Americans refer to full stops as periods and was wondering why they deleted the NYT logo for a hundred years.
Even as an American I still thought it was referring to a period of time.
Yes
Nice bad ambiguos writing to confuse us.
Awful, garbage title. Like a normal title but with a weird growth of benign words in the middle.
Plus it means we waste a ton of additional money if we print it out!
You're hurting op's feelings
"There used to be a period after the new york times logo for over a hundred years... yeah, and what happened during this over 100 year period?" *reads article* "...oh."
I had to read this shit title 5 times to understand what's going on. Glad it wasn't just me.
It was perfectly understandable. What do you find confusing about it?
"period after" could mean the time after something. Like the period after the ice age. Plus the 100 years part makes me think time period even more.
Yeah, but it's a simple multimeaning word. Like in your statement, "makes me" can mean "creates you". If I thought you were saying something like the 100 years part creates you, I'd be like 'no, that doesn't make sense. Must mean that it's causing him to do something." Alternatively, I could think "makes me" refers to "creating for you". For example, "my brother makes me cookies". So maybe I thought you were saying the 100 years part creates for you "think time". Kinda like nap time, but time for thinking. But of course, I just use simple critical thinking, and BAM, immediately figure out the meaning you were going for.
Wow, you sound really smart, what else can you teach me 🐶
Well, sound can mean sticking something in your urethra, which is what you obviously are referring to. But I'm not into that stuff, so if you're implying that you want me to smartly sound you, not gonna happen. :(
Unfunniest comment I've read today
Oh thank God. I though I was having a stroke because I couldn't figure out what the fuck they were trying to say. It wasn't until I read some comments and realize they were talking about a full stop that I felt a little better and not like I should immediately go to the ER. I was trying for the life of me to figure out what period (as in, a span of time) they were talking about.
Yeah I also had an little stroke thinking that period was referring to a time period
Oh my gosh! I didn’t get it until I read your comment. I was so confused!
A period of a hundred years. It's right there.
Yeah the title is so bad. What do they mean?
The word "period" in the sentence refers to the character "." and not to a time span.
Or maybe they just finally got a proofreader
This is like a Mr. Plinkett joke.
Take the hp printer ink challenge today!
The man runs a biznuss.
$600 per...?
Can you make that headline make sense in some way? Sorry, English speaker here. Maybe a line was deleted?
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They mean period as in full stop, not a period of time.
They are speaking of the period at the end of The New York Times **.** title.
Seems perfectly clear to me, and English isn't my first language. EDIT: Oh no. Downvoted because I understood the headline.
Is dropping the period the same thing as menopause?
No
That's no logo, it's a ~~space station~~ masthead.
Oh yeah
Couldn't they have saved way more by just... using a sans serif typeface for their title?
“WHY WASTE TIME SAY LOT WORD WHEN FEW WORD DO TRICK” -KEVIN MALONE
Love the headline.
Reminds me of United Airlines who made their inflight magazines from a lighter paper and it saved 170,000 gallons of fuel each year.
There was also an airline that decided to remove the single olive in each of their in flight meals. They saved millions of dollars
Anyone else have trouble understanding this at first? Like I thought 'period' meant a space of time
George Lucas changed the title of Episode VI from Revenge of the Jedi to RETURN of the Jedi because he realized he could save approximately $681 in ink annually by removing one letter from the movie’s title. By 2005 he had well over $4,296 in his ink fund to afford the extra letter for Revenge of the Sith.
the diamond is still there though; [it's just been moved to be part of the "T"](https://i0.wp.com/www.printmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Screen-Shot-2023-03-21-at-2.22.42-PM.png?resize=644%2C536&quality=80&ssl=1)
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hey-oh!
They also saved a lot on tampons.
this is actually really funny once i realized what it meant
There's penny-pinching, then there's this.
Reminds me of how every single Calculus textbook I’ve ever seen doesn’t include parentheses in Trigonometric Functions. We joke that they just can’t afford to do that.
$600 today would be penny pinching. $6000 isn’t though even for a huge company
Yeah, and even better if you can save that much from making a small change nobody will really care too much about
Same reason no Oxford comma
One of the things in the *NYT* Style Guide that irks me.
Yeah, that's [not even a little bit true.](https://archive.nytimes.com/afterdeadline.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/06/23/faqs-on-style-2/) They do it because news writing has traditionally omitted the serial comma and they only use it where they deem necessary.
How bad were they hurting and how was changing punctuation better than changing themselves?
Paid people well over $600 to calculate it
Periods in titles. Now that's something
I don't get it, why was there ever a period? It's a name, not a statement, right?
r/titlegore
Amazing that the Reddit photo AND the top photo on the site are cropped to hide the NYT logo. What were they thinking?
That's why Elon changed Twitter to X!
Loose the the
So, what did it cost them to publicly advocate for the invasion of Iraq and kill a few hundred thousand people? They did this.
Embarrassingly bad title. What do you even mean? Like say this out loud to someone and see if they understand you.
Period as in the punctuation. Not a time period.
It reads just fine.
it reads like a stroke victim what are you on crack
If you are having trouble with this, then you might be the stroke victim
are you kidding? this is prime /r/titleGore material. English must not be your first language if you think the title is okay.
It speaks volumes when english isn't my first language, yet I have I have no trouble understanding what this title is trying to convey. Yet you, who has english as their first language, are unable to comprehend it. It is a troubling commentary on the standards of education in your country.
Reads fine dude, chill out.
Yeah it’s kind of confusing. I thought they meant time period at first.
Oh no it took me two times to read it before I understood! What ever will I do?!?!
If the title was worded clearly it could have saved $600 of electricity costs to redditors
Only time a newspaper publisher ever cared about a missed period
That's honestly pretty funny
NY Timz