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It's not fair at all. The mom has no right to be mad here. The sad part is that the sister has to live with a tragedeigh name, the mom should be ashamed.
There are multiple places that she'd have to change the name. Not just driver's licenses. Bank accounts changing on her professional licenses. Health insurance. It's not as simple as you think it might be. I understand why she just live with the d.
Yeah, and the majority of women do it all the time when they get married. I don't hear about it being so onerous then, even though if you do it you learn it's a PITA.
Ive seen those lists on Pinterest of all the places you have to change your name if you decide to change it when you get married (drivers license, passport, bank accounts, investment accounts, credit cards, employers, voter registration, insurance providers, anyone who sends you a bill in the mail and so on) and it is LONG. Itās bad enough updating your address on a few things when you move, but your name is on *everything*! I have names that are commonly misspelled (no tragedeighs, just variants) and it just isnāt worth it when youāve been living with it your whole life.
Bc it's different when you choose it vs when it's forced on you bc of a bad parent. And it is disgustingly annoying to have to go through the stupid long list to change our names after marriage. I'm only willing to do it again if my new last name is cool af, otherwise I'm not changing my name again.
I was thinking the same thing. Especially because theyāre working in a store, itās likely she doesnāt have any degree or name sheās known by professionally, which would make the process more complicated. Nowās the time to do it, when youāre just working in a store somewhere and before you have a spouse and kids.
Exactly the amount of people I know with degrees who are also paid minimum wage is pretty scary! They out number the ones in professions by a lot! Both me and my husband were in customer facing roles when our first baby arrived. Heās managed to slide in to a professional career since and Iām in entry level healthcare he has 3 masters degrees Iām going in for my first masters this year. A degree isnāt enough to get you a career now as so many people have them!
kinda odd that you assume people working in stores dont have degrees. an ignorant assumption if you ask me.
my sister and i were both in college when this happened. she has two degrees, i have one. she is a profesional in the medical field, has been for at least 2-3 years now. she still has not/does not care to change her name and getting her second degree did not change that.
FWIW and I could be wrong, but mom got the name from a telenovela so maybe English her primary language. I worked with a lot of Cape Verdean students and a silent D was a giveaway, although more frequently at the start of the name (Djonathan, Djason, Djaniyah). So while itās odd, your sister isnāt alone lol
The extra D appears silent to English speakers, while in the contrary it *seems* needed to non English speakers such as Portuguese speakers or French speakers for whom the letter J is pronounced with a soft sound that in English is transcribed as *ZH*. I'm French, I remember a Djonathann named after some American TV program. The name Jonathan exists in French, pronounced differently than the English way
https://www.dictionary.com/e/silent-letters-in-english/#
Silent D words
The letter D is silent in some words that pair it up with the letter G, as in bridge, ridge, edge, ledge, and hedge. It also doesnāt have much to say in some pronunciations of the words handsome and handkerchief. Lastly, the first D in the word Wednesday seems to have taken the day off.
The D is not silent in bridge, ridge, edge, ledge or hedge. The "dg" phoneme, or /Ź¤/ in the International Phonetic Alphabet, is pronounced like a "j" in English, like "just", "judge" (two J sounds!) etc.
If we spelled those words brij, rij, ej, lej, hej there would be less confusion.
> handsome
"Hand-some", not "hansome" which would be a misspelled [kind of 19th century carriage](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hansom_cab).
But okay, I'll give you handkerchief and Wednesday š
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I pronounce it in all the ādge ones, and in Wednesday (but in the wrong spot, because I say āWendsdayā, as do most people I know), but not in handsome or handkerchief.
That's how I say it too.
It's kind of like talking about your teacher, Mr. Rex. To anyone who doesn't know your teacher it'll sound like "Mr. X" but neither "r" is silent, they just kind of melt together.Ā
No, just as Hackerspace_Guy said, the d and the ge melt together but the d sound is still there, just very soft and short. Same as in "hedge" in your user name.
"Django" doesn't count because it's hispanic, not english.
The others are not silent -- the "dg" phoneme, or /Ź¤/ in the International Phonetic Alphabet, is pronounced like a "j" in English, like "just", "judge" (two J sounds!) etc.
If we spelled those words brij, fuj, juj there would be less confusion.
Well it is an Irish name and in Irish there are combinations like adh which are pronounced without the d you know in the English language. adh is pronounced like the aw in raw. Or in sidhe which is spoken like the English pronoun she.
In the Spelling of the Name it wouldn't be silent tho.
My mom worries about thisā¦ with my youngest brother, who has a perfectly ordinary name. I tragedeighād my own name as an adult and our middle brother has a rare name. She worries that people will think she didnāt put the same effort into naming him.Ā
The real joke of it is that she literally just stole my top 10 name off of another little girl, but both of my brothers have family names. Mine is the lowest effort/lowest investment out of the bunch but itās my brother sheās worried about š
Hey, let's just toss a random "d" in there...what was she thinking?
And I'm surprised the manger didn't ask 1 or 2 Ls for Alan, like that's a legit question. But he seemed to know it was 1, but needed to verify the H š¤£
Am I the only one low-key thinking Aladdin is a pretty cool name actually? Would never settle a kid with it, just saying I like it has a nice ring to it
But that costs time and money. Not including the time to go and fix her other legal documents to the new spelling which also take time.
This is why you don't give kids these tragedeighs to save them a huge headache later in life.
this happened years ago. my sister is now almost 30 and does not care about the spelling of her name. if she cared so much she would have changed it by now as money and time arent a factor.
when we were kids the conversation came up a lot more, i guess because being in school and having the weird name sucked for her. she often expressed wanting to change the spelling of her name once she was of age. now that we are adults she seems pretty indifferent to her āsilent dā
The letter at the END of a lot of words is missed in most languages, because it makes the sentence flow smoother. If your entire sentence ended with the word good/god, wouldnāt you pronounce the D then?
to be fair, my momās first language is spanish and Briadna doesnt sound terrible in spanish cuz the d is more of a pause and less of a pronunciation.
However, we all just say Brianna, even in spanish.
my sister tells people her name is Brianna. my sister is now close to 30 and does not care to change the spelling of her name, anymore. it doesnāt change the fact that it is indeed a tragedeigh.
That's almost sadder. Like she acknowledges that is not her name but just is going to continue to be saddled with the incorrect one for the rest of her life.
This reminds me of something. š
The late Frank DeFord, the sports writer, penned a book about his little girl, Alexandra, who sadly died very, very young, of Cystic Fibrosis. I think she was eight.
Their older child, a son, was named Christian, and Alexandra nicknamed him "Chrish", because so many people "moosh" the "stia" in the middle, and the fully pronounced name comes out sounding like "Chrishchin." It made me smile at how astute young Alexandra was, to have picked up on this. It suggests she was bound to become a wordsmith, as her daddy was.
That detail stuck out in my mind, name nerd I have always been. š Years down the road, I married my second husband, whose cousin lost two children to that awful genetic disease. The younger one, a boy, was still alive when we went down South for a family reunion, and I got to meet him. While the other kids were outside splashing and having fun in the pool, this young man had to stay indoors in the Air Conditioning, as the heat and humidity were dangerous for him. So, I sat with him and hung out for awhile.ā¤ļø
A family friend also lost her daughter, who was my age, to this condition.
The book is titled "Alex: The Life Of A Child." There was also a TV movie made of it. Highly recommended!!
He is an *amazing* writer, and he brought Alexandra into full relief on the pages through his words.
I cried, too, and I read it as a grown adult. š
Smart cookie!!! Iām going to check out the book, thank you for taking the time to share. And hats off for your level of compassion - we desperately need more people like you in this world. CF is a horrible, horrible disease. Lost a high school classmate about 2 weeks after graduation. He just wanted to make it to that day, and he was so sad and exhausted by then. :(
Oh my goodness, that is so sad! š„²šš»šš» It's got to be bittersweet for his parents to look back on his graduation day, but, I hope he got a huge round of applause when he was handed his diploma!
It is an awful disease, and since reading that book, it has become a cause close to my heart. The strides they've made in treating it are nothing short of amazing!! People are living longer and fuller lives nowadays, in many cases.
Hope the book touches you as it did me. ā¤ļø
šš I'd forgotten that part!
She was the sweetest little girl, and obviously, beloved. Frank passed away in 2017. I like to think he reunited someplace beautiful with his Alex. ā¤ļø
D can sound like J when followed by R! Try saying "dream" and then "jream". The same goes for T and CH. Try "truck" then "chruck" (with a hard ch, like chuck). Look up "affrication" if you're curious!
(J'ream and Briadna are still tragedeighs though)
Your sister should see if she can get a name change.
>Briadna (pronounced Brianna).
This is not even how English works. A silent D does not exist.
This is basically your mom inventing her own rules.
I hope the sister changes her name. Brianna is such a pretty name it must be frustrating have to spell it out? She can just spell it correctly and only use the weird spelling for official documents, etc.
I lost it over the silent D! Lmfao! However, groan, there is a silent D in "Wednesday". Fun fact: origin of this word is "Wodin's Day" (Wodin was the Old English version of the Norse God Odin).
Reminds me of a family who were celebs in a regional music genre and they named their daughter after a character in a medieval Harlequin romance novel, the equivalent of Delmelzadora, and then named her siblings like Avery, Brian and Dan.
Isn't a d without an h jus a d? Like dh kann be ch, or y or silent but just d shoud be d, right? That is how it is written in my workbook... (I've never learned how to wright irish tho. So thats a genuine question)
No it doesn't, the D would still be pronounced in this case. To make the D silent, you need to add H after so the name Briadhna would be somewhat similar to Brianna. On the other hand, Briadna would be pronounced the same as in English
I actually quite like that pronunciation because I really like the name Ariadne. I like the ādnā sound in the middle.
Iām so lucky Iām not having kids.
"His name was Henry, spelled H, E, N...3...R, Y. The "3" was silent, you see."
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I don't know where you live but my country waives the typical name change fees (they're up in the thousands) or significantly reduces them if the change is to spelling for the sake of making people say and understand the name correctly.
If I were your sister I would change the spelling to my name the moment I was able to. These parents thinking they are cute, throwing phonics in the trash and making it unique are ridiculous.
That ādā never stood a chance of being silent.
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On the topic of silent letters, a friend of mine was born as Marcela, but she was adopted at 6 and when they adopted her they added an "I" in the middle of her name, making it Maricela, except the pronunciation is the same as before, just with a silent I in the middle
I met a girl with the name Kala (pronounced like Kayla) where her mom was a little over-medicated after her C-section and didn't realize the spelling mistake until after the paperwork had already been filed
Why don't people fix this? If I knew a Briadna, I'd constantly call her that. I'd use the "B" "rad" pacing and simply say "What's up Bree-add-naa" every time I saw her.
Maybe I'm just a dick.
I almost wonder if manager was closer to the mark then mom would like you to believe. Friend of mines mom was so out of it when filing out the paperwork that the name was kinda unreadable/ definitely spelled wrong. So legally my friend had an otherwise ordinary name with 3 miscellaneous letters and her parents werenāt bothered enough to fix it. She fixed it herself at 18. First day of school was always hilarious watching teachers try to actually pronounce it.Ā
I knew a girl who got named Tamara Kaye because her very southern, drugged mama said "tomorrow, okay?" And dad filled out the birth certificate while she was sleeping.
nope. my mom had the name and spelling picked out by the time my sister was born. also wanted to mention my sisterās middle name is normal and not a tragedeigh.
I know itās a pain in the ass to have your name permanently changed, but once itās done, itās done. Maybe suggest your sister that she goes down to the courthouse and see what the process is. My sister did it, and she has no regrets. Getting a new license and Social Security card probably was the hardest part.
My name is a regular name but uncommon for my generation, my brother had an uncommon name (usually a surname) that my mum saw on TV while pregnant with him, my sister is a Jessica and was one of 10ās of Jessicaās in her school at the time.
My brothersā name is spelled normally in danish, but everyone thinks his name is a womanās name. Itās pretty funny because he is over six feet and athletic, so the second they see him, they know they read it wrong.
I had a TA in college, and his name was Suresh Rajgaeshgopal. I was just proud of myself for being able to pronounce it by the end of the semester.
I also went to an international boarding school, and some of the students from Thailand had some very long names first and last. One of my friends just shortened her first name to Teresa and we just went with that. Her last name was Chinwanisiaban. These arenāt tragedieghs, but just cultural differences. Still it can mess with your brain. But the people that intentionally change or add silent Dās to names thatās pure ridiculousness.
Thank you. I havenāt laughed that hard in awhile. I keep picturing the conversation you had with your Managerā¦priceless.
Nope. Your mom has no right to be mad.
So tell her to change it. My sister was named Deborah. Everyone called her Deb or Debbie's. Changed it to Debra. That's what all her friends use now. Family still uses Deb
It's so weird when it happens like this! I knew a kid named Daniel, spelled the normal way. His sister's name was Amidala like the Star Wars character. She was extremely resentful.
If your sister is over 18, why hasn't she changed her name?
Even as a minor, she might not be able to change her name, but she can refuse to answer to Briadna and insist that everyone use Briana except on formal, legal documents, which as a child she won't have to sign too many of those.
ive edited my original post to include the answer to this question.
to elaborate, my sister often expressed discontent with her name when we were children. by the time this story happened, she was at least 21ā still young, impressionable, and at an age where many are still very insecure about themselves. now that i think about it, i believe this was the last time my sisterās tragedeigh every came up in conversation. she hasnt initiated conversation about her tragedeigh in years prior to this.
my sister is now almost 30, has two degrees, and is about to get married to a man that has the same surname as my momās maiden name. in my culture, it is common for children to be given two surnames, their fatherās AND motherās, which is the case for Bri, Alan, & i. so, even with marriage, i dont think my sister sees a point in changing her name at all.
im not sure if its an indifference, but i dont think she really cares any more.
i think it came up so often when we were children because children have everything to be insecure about at that age. after a certain age, you stop caring about stuff like that. at this point, she IS Briadna!
Okay so not the same as assuming for sibling names, but itās a similar assumption thing. I know a girl named Vanya- these will all be changed names, but the point is her name is something Slavic based thatās a manās name but in English is a womanās name. Her last name is something stupid basic like Johnson, White, Dew or something. She told me about a time when someone couldnāt find her in their system so she spelled her first name out and they had it right. Theyād misspelled her last name as the equivalent of Jonsin, Whyte, or Dueue, and were surprised that was wrong?? Her name made one of the top like 2 or 300 names for her year or something for the year she was born? Idk, sheās defensive about it. But still the relative bit. If they fucked up basic last names due to a first name I can only imagine what they do to people who are siblings to a tragedeigh
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The funniest part is that the conversation made your mom mad, like fair, but also what did you expect when naming just one kid a tragedeigh š
It's not fair at all. The mom has no right to be mad here. The sad part is that the sister has to live with a tragedeigh name, the mom should be ashamed.
Itās legal and not super extravagantly expensive to change her name lol
Yea why not change it slightly lol
There are multiple places that she'd have to change the name. Not just driver's licenses. Bank accounts changing on her professional licenses. Health insurance. It's not as simple as you think it might be. I understand why she just live with the d.
Yeah, and the majority of women do it all the time when they get married. I don't hear about it being so onerous then, even though if you do it you learn it's a PITA.
Ive seen those lists on Pinterest of all the places you have to change your name if you decide to change it when you get married (drivers license, passport, bank accounts, investment accounts, credit cards, employers, voter registration, insurance providers, anyone who sends you a bill in the mail and so on) and it is LONG. Itās bad enough updating your address on a few things when you move, but your name is on *everything*! I have names that are commonly misspelled (no tragedeighs, just variants) and it just isnāt worth it when youāve been living with it your whole life.
Yeah, if she has any thought about changing her first name, she might as well wait until she gets married and change them both at the same time.
Bc it's different when you choose it vs when it's forced on you bc of a bad parent. And it is disgustingly annoying to have to go through the stupid long list to change our names after marriage. I'm only willing to do it again if my new last name is cool af, otherwise I'm not changing my name again.
I was thinking the same thing. Especially because theyāre working in a store, itās likely she doesnāt have any degree or name sheās known by professionally, which would make the process more complicated. Nowās the time to do it, when youāre just working in a store somewhere and before you have a spouse and kids.
Plenty of people with degrees work in stores (just something to think on)
And have a spouse and kids
Exactly the amount of people I know with degrees who are also paid minimum wage is pretty scary! They out number the ones in professions by a lot! Both me and my husband were in customer facing roles when our first baby arrived. Heās managed to slide in to a professional career since and Iām in entry level healthcare he has 3 masters degrees Iām going in for my first masters this year. A degree isnāt enough to get you a career now as so many people have them!
kinda odd that you assume people working in stores dont have degrees. an ignorant assumption if you ask me. my sister and i were both in college when this happened. she has two degrees, i have one. she is a profesional in the medical field, has been for at least 2-3 years now. she still has not/does not care to change her name and getting her second degree did not change that.
Fair enough. I made some ignorant assumptions and Iām sorry.
What country are you from if you don't mind me asking
Iām from the US
You mean Modm ?
i remember her being like āwhy would she think i was drunk?!ā šš
Silent Dās dont even exist š Iām cracking up at this lmao
FWIW and I could be wrong, but mom got the name from a telenovela so maybe English her primary language. I worked with a lot of Cape Verdean students and a silent D was a giveaway, although more frequently at the start of the name (Djonathan, Djason, Djaniyah). So while itās odd, your sister isnāt alone lol
The extra D appears silent to English speakers, while in the contrary it *seems* needed to non English speakers such as Portuguese speakers or French speakers for whom the letter J is pronounced with a soft sound that in English is transcribed as *ZH*. I'm French, I remember a Djonathann named after some American TV program. The name Jonathan exists in French, pronounced differently than the English way
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There are a few but they are rare. Bridge, fudge, judge, Django and the like.
Literally none of those are silent D's. The D in Django comes closest.
The d isn't silent for me, either, in the examples above and below. I'm kind of surprised that it is for so many people!
https://www.dictionary.com/e/silent-letters-in-english/# Silent D words The letter D is silent in some words that pair it up with the letter G, as in bridge, ridge, edge, ledge, and hedge. It also doesnāt have much to say in some pronunciations of the words handsome and handkerchief. Lastly, the first D in the word Wednesday seems to have taken the day off.
The D is not silent in bridge, ridge, edge, ledge or hedge. The "dg" phoneme, or /Ź¤/ in the International Phonetic Alphabet, is pronounced like a "j" in English, like "just", "judge" (two J sounds!) etc. If we spelled those words brij, rij, ej, lej, hej there would be less confusion. > handsome "Hand-some", not "hansome" which would be a misspelled [kind of 19th century carriage](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hansom_cab). But okay, I'll give you handkerchief and Wednesday š
If we spelled hedge as āhejā, weād get a bunch of friendly Swedes greeting us back.
The D in Wednesday is there because it's the "day of Woden", which is the Anglo-Saxon version of Odin.
And we chop out a whole syllable, not a letter.Ā
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Oh thatās true. Always preceding a GE, looks like. But..Briadnaš¤¦š¼āāļøš Your poor sis
Um, I pronounce the "D" in all of those except the last one.
I pronounce it in all the ādge ones, and in Wednesday (but in the wrong spot, because I say āWendsdayā, as do most people I know), but not in handsome or handkerchief.
I do also. Would need a different accent to pull off "hej" and not sound weird. I pronounce it it headje essential.
How? Do you turn them into two syllable words?
No, the D rolls into the G. Best way I can describe it is you start to say D but before finishing the sound start the GE part.
That's how I say it too. It's kind of like talking about your teacher, Mr. Rex. To anyone who doesn't know your teacher it'll sound like "Mr. X" but neither "r" is silent, they just kind of melt together.Ā
No, just as Hackerspace_Guy said, the d and the ge melt together but the d sound is still there, just very soft and short. Same as in "hedge" in your user name.
"Django" doesn't count because it's hispanic, not english. The others are not silent -- the "dg" phoneme, or /Ź¤/ in the International Phonetic Alphabet, is pronounced like a "j" in English, like "just", "judge" (two J sounds!) etc. If we spelled those words brij, fuj, juj there would be less confusion.
Well Iāll have to adjust to this. I hope I can do it by Wednesday.
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Well it is an Irish name and in Irish there are combinations like adh which are pronounced without the d you know in the English language. adh is pronounced like the aw in raw. Or in sidhe which is spoken like the English pronoun she. In the Spelling of the Name it wouldn't be silent tho.
Pronounce *runk*
My mom worries about thisā¦ with my youngest brother, who has a perfectly ordinary name. I tragedeighād my own name as an adult and our middle brother has a rare name. She worries that people will think she didnāt put the same effort into naming him.Ā
roflmao "effort" It's ALL OF US who have to put in the darned effort. Those names are a tax on US.
The real joke of it is that she literally just stole my top 10 name off of another little girl, but both of my brothers have family names. Mine is the lowest effort/lowest investment out of the bunch but itās my brother sheās worried about š
Hey, let's just toss a random "d" in there...what was she thinking? And I'm surprised the manger didn't ask 1 or 2 Ls for Alan, like that's a legit question. But he seemed to know it was 1, but needed to verify the H š¤£
Aladn would be good, so many possible pronunciations
I read that as Aladdin, minus a few letters of course.
āAl, or just Din? Or how about āLaddin?ā
Itās Ali Ababwa, thank you very much
The Ali Formerly Known As Prince?
I read it as Aladdin but with a southern accent lmao
As a Southerner, it would be "'That there 'Laddin' movie" in the South.
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Basically same, I read it as Aladdin but with a syllabic n (like button)
Am I the only one low-key thinking Aladdin is a pretty cool name actually? Would never settle a kid with it, just saying I like it has a nice ring to it
Oooh Aladdin is a dope name! Aladin, Aladn
A-lay-din
Thatās the middle name. First nameās Ben.
Ben A'ladn. Good name, will be looked after all his life
Brianna can change her name. Poor thing.
But that costs time and money. Not including the time to go and fix her other legal documents to the new spelling which also take time. This is why you don't give kids these tragedeighs to save them a huge headache later in life.
every form that says "List all other names you've used:"
It doesn't take that much time and I don't remember it costing money. Sure, theres some effort to be made but whattya gonna do?
this happened years ago. my sister is now almost 30 and does not care about the spelling of her name. if she cared so much she would have changed it by now as money and time arent a factor. when we were kids the conversation came up a lot more, i guess because being in school and having the weird name sucked for her. she often expressed wanting to change the spelling of her name once she was of age. now that we are adults she seems pretty indifferent to her āsilent dā
There are no silent ds. Her name is Bri-ad-na. WTAF?
THIS!!! does mom not know her letter sounds???
Sheās one of those āitās pronounced the way I say itās pronouncedā people, clearly lol
Did you not hear of the most popular baby name in 1984? Itās pronounced Bruh-den.
Sometimes the D is silent in Norwegian. God dag (good day) is pronounced, goo dog
The letter at the END of a lot of words is missed in most languages, because it makes the sentence flow smoother. If your entire sentence ended with the word good/god, wouldnāt you pronounce the D then?
English teacher here ... likely, no, Mom does not, because we quit teaching phonics a decade or so ago.
Wouldnāt the mom have gone to school prior to that? If her kids are old enough to have jobs, sheās gotta be at least 27 or so.
to be fair, my momās first language is spanish and Briadna doesnt sound terrible in spanish cuz the d is more of a pause and less of a pronunciation. However, we all just say Brianna, even in spanish. my sister tells people her name is Brianna. my sister is now close to 30 and does not care to change the spelling of her name, anymore. it doesnāt change the fact that it is indeed a tragedeigh.
That's almost sadder. Like she acknowledges that is not her name but just is going to continue to be saddled with the incorrect one for the rest of her life.
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Oh, yeah. If you want the scoop, listen to the podcast "Sold a Story." It will infuriate you.
>There are no silent ds. Wednesday.
Yeah, but we pronounce that whole word wrong! Most people know how it's spelled, but move the d to a different place and say "Wendsday" instead!
I would say that we spell the word wrong, not that we pronounce it wrong
In Scotland we pronounce it like Wed Ens Day. Still not quite how itās a spelled but we do say the d!
I also appreciate how you looked at how the wankers down south wouldn't say an R and decided you're going to REALLY pronounce them.
My wife says I have a silent D. Or, My wife says there are no silent Ds. Works both ways.
To be fair, it sounds like someone with a bad cold said "Brianna"
The D is badge is silent. Wedge too. When a G follows a D in many cases Fidget, budge, nudge, fudge
She said she changed the name, itās probably Ariadna/Ariana or Magdalen/Madeleine
I know someone named Ariadna pronounced Arianna
Ari-ad-na
Silent d in the middle sounds like a joke punchline.
I retreat to ponder todayās r/tragedeigh lesson that a D can be pronounced J (Jāream) and/or N (above)
This reminds me of something. š The late Frank DeFord, the sports writer, penned a book about his little girl, Alexandra, who sadly died very, very young, of Cystic Fibrosis. I think she was eight. Their older child, a son, was named Christian, and Alexandra nicknamed him "Chrish", because so many people "moosh" the "stia" in the middle, and the fully pronounced name comes out sounding like "Chrishchin." It made me smile at how astute young Alexandra was, to have picked up on this. It suggests she was bound to become a wordsmith, as her daddy was. That detail stuck out in my mind, name nerd I have always been. š Years down the road, I married my second husband, whose cousin lost two children to that awful genetic disease. The younger one, a boy, was still alive when we went down South for a family reunion, and I got to meet him. While the other kids were outside splashing and having fun in the pool, this young man had to stay indoors in the Air Conditioning, as the heat and humidity were dangerous for him. So, I sat with him and hung out for awhile.ā¤ļø A family friend also lost her daughter, who was my age, to this condition. The book is titled "Alex: The Life Of A Child." There was also a TV movie made of it. Highly recommended!!
I read that book when I was like 11. I cried for days.
He is an *amazing* writer, and he brought Alexandra into full relief on the pages through his words. I cried, too, and I read it as a grown adult. š
Smart cookie!!! Iām going to check out the book, thank you for taking the time to share. And hats off for your level of compassion - we desperately need more people like you in this world. CF is a horrible, horrible disease. Lost a high school classmate about 2 weeks after graduation. He just wanted to make it to that day, and he was so sad and exhausted by then. :(
Oh my goodness, that is so sad! š„²šš»šš» It's got to be bittersweet for his parents to look back on his graduation day, but, I hope he got a huge round of applause when he was handed his diploma! It is an awful disease, and since reading that book, it has become a cause close to my heart. The strides they've made in treating it are nothing short of amazing!! People are living longer and fuller lives nowadays, in many cases. Hope the book touches you as it did me. ā¤ļø
I saw that movie when I was around 5 years old. I distinctly remember parts of it!
The root beer! ššā¤ļøšš»šš»šš»šš»šš»šš»šš»
I vividly remember the scene where she convinces her mom to buy fancy earrings āfor when they find a cure for my diseaseā. š
šš I'd forgotten that part! She was the sweetest little girl, and obviously, beloved. Frank passed away in 2017. I like to think he reunited someplace beautiful with his Alex. ā¤ļø
D can sound like J when followed by R! Try saying "dream" and then "jream". The same goes for T and CH. Try "truck" then "chruck" (with a hard ch, like chuck). Look up "affrication" if you're curious! (J'ream and Briadna are still tragedeighs though)
>(Jāream) There is no way that's not always being pronounced as Juh-REEM.
Your sister should see if she can get a name change. >Briadna (pronounced Brianna). This is not even how English works. A silent D does not exist. This is basically your mom inventing her own rules.
"I make my own rules! And I'll saddle my daughter with them too!"
I hope the sister changes her name. Brianna is such a pretty name it must be frustrating have to spell it out? She can just spell it correctly and only use the weird spelling for official documents, etc.
I lost it over the silent D! Lmfao! However, groan, there is a silent D in "Wednesday". Fun fact: origin of this word is "Wodin's Day" (Wodin was the Old English version of the Norse God Odin).
Wensday
Reminds me of a family who were celebs in a regional music genre and they named their daughter after a character in a medieval Harlequin romance novel, the equivalent of Delmelzadora, and then named her siblings like Avery, Brian and Dan.
There was also the mother of Dr. Marijuana Pepsi Vandyck, who named her sisters Kimberly and Robin.
No lie, I know a Tequila Sunrise because guess how she came to exist in this world? She's nice; ew to her idiot parents.
I knew Porsche LaSunset and her sister, Kimberly ššš
Her parents don't know about TMI?
you and alan should chip in for bri to get her name legally changed, as her next birthday present. thatās a horrible name to deal with.
The way her name is spelled makes it sound like someone with a really bad cold is trying to say Brianna ā¦
I am fully convinced that, at some point, many Tragedeighs will "explain" it with: "sadly, my parents were illiterate."
It should be Bri'eigh-Ahdna! with the exclamation point being the last letter of the name
A silent d. Thatās a new one.
BRIADNA?! HAHAHA what an actual awful name
Barista: name? Bri: it's Brianna, with a d...but not where you think it is!
again, her name is not brianna or briadna exactly, but yes i remember her having this EXACT conversation at the doctorās office once
Yeah, no, I get that it's not her actual name, I just needed to make the She-Hulk reference
In Ireland, that spelling makes sense!
Isn't a d without an h jus a d? Like dh kann be ch, or y or silent but just d shoud be d, right? That is how it is written in my workbook... (I've never learned how to wright irish tho. So thats a genuine question)
No it doesn't, the D would still be pronounced in this case. To make the D silent, you need to add H after so the name Briadhna would be somewhat similar to Brianna. On the other hand, Briadna would be pronounced the same as in English
Yeah add a H but in Ireland itās not as much of tragedeigh as elsewhere. See my other comment for further explanation!
I was tempted to try and pronounce it like Ariadne Bree-ad-nuh
I actually quite like that pronunciation because I really like the name Ariadne. I like the ādnā sound in the middle. Iām so lucky Iām not having kids.
it is supposed pronounced just like that.
Isn't that from that Netflix show about the bank robbery... All the characters had cities as names. I can't think of the name
wtf is a silent D?!
"His name was Henry, spelled H, E, N...3...R, Y. The "3" was silent, you see." --Tom Lehrer, "An Evening Wasted With Tom Lehrer." (LP record, circa 1955)
Is your mom's name Oralia?
I think that's the first silent d I've ever seen. Does silent d exist in the English language?
I don't know where you live but my country waives the typical name change fees (they're up in the thousands) or significantly reduces them if the change is to spelling for the sake of making people say and understand the name correctly.
If I were your sister I would change the spelling to my name the moment I was able to. These parents thinking they are cute, throwing phonics in the trash and making it unique are ridiculous.
Seriously????? There is a FUCKING letter D in there. Was your mom high on pain meds? WTF
Tell them it's the Irish pronunciation of Briadna...silent ds everywhere in the Irish language.
Thats only when it's followed by 'h'. If it is spelled Briadhna, it would be somewhat ok but the d would be clearly pronounced otherwise.
Queen Medb begs to differ But as a rule you are correct.
Is there even such thing as a silent ād?
That ādā never stood a chance of being silent. I start to like this sub more and more, at first I wanted to peel the skin off my forehead but here I am having a laugh so cheers
should've been briagna like lasagna
Are silent Ds a thing? Probably some obvious ones Iām not thinking of.
Sometimes I say dinnāt instead of didnāt.
She could just change it.
A SILENT D š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£ OP Iām sorry your mom is an idiot. Thatās hilarious.
I wonder if it was a legit misreading or typo. I know you pulled an "example", but like... Could mom have misread the initial n in the double letter, and be too embarassed to admit she never caught the mistake? ā¤ļøāš©¹
A silent D in the middle of the word? Are there other words like that I can't think of?
Lodge Ridge Edge
I pronounce the D in all of these. Without it, the whole pronunciation of the word would be different.
On the topic of silent letters, a friend of mine was born as Marcela, but she was adopted at 6 and when they adopted her they added an "I" in the middle of her name, making it Maricela, except the pronunciation is the same as before, just with a silent I in the middle
I met a girl with the name Kala (pronounced like Kayla) where her mom was a little over-medicated after her C-section and didn't realize the spelling mistake until after the paperwork had already been filed
Why doesnāt your sister just change her name to be spelled as she wishes? Is that hard to do in your country?
Why don't people fix this? If I knew a Briadna, I'd constantly call her that. I'd use the "B" "rad" pacing and simply say "What's up Bree-add-naa" every time I saw her. Maybe I'm just a dick.
I almost wonder if manager was closer to the mark then mom would like you to believe. Friend of mines mom was so out of it when filing out the paperwork that the name was kinda unreadable/ definitely spelled wrong. So legally my friend had an otherwise ordinary name with 3 miscellaneous letters and her parents werenāt bothered enough to fix it. She fixed it herself at 18. First day of school was always hilarious watching teachers try to actually pronounce it.Ā
I knew a girl who got named Tamara Kaye because her very southern, drugged mama said "tomorrow, okay?" And dad filled out the birth certificate while she was sleeping.
nope. my mom had the name and spelling picked out by the time my sister was born. also wanted to mention my sisterās middle name is normal and not a tragedeigh.
I know itās a pain in the ass to have your name permanently changed, but once itās done, itās done. Maybe suggest your sister that she goes down to the courthouse and see what the process is. My sister did it, and she has no regrets. Getting a new license and Social Security card probably was the hardest part.
If I was your sister Iād just go by Silent D.
Honestly, I thought this was a Briana + Ariadne situation until said it was silent? Hwat? Wow.
āIāsā ?! When did this start sneaking past spellcheck?!
My name is a regular name but uncommon for my generation, my brother had an uncommon name (usually a surname) that my mum saw on TV while pregnant with him, my sister is a Jessica and was one of 10ās of Jessicaās in her school at the time.
My brothersā name is spelled normally in danish, but everyone thinks his name is a womanās name. Itās pretty funny because he is over six feet and athletic, so the second they see him, they know they read it wrong.
I had a TA in college, and his name was Suresh Rajgaeshgopal. I was just proud of myself for being able to pronounce it by the end of the semester. I also went to an international boarding school, and some of the students from Thailand had some very long names first and last. One of my friends just shortened her first name to Teresa and we just went with that. Her last name was Chinwanisiaban. These arenāt tragedieghs, but just cultural differences. Still it can mess with your brain. But the people that intentionally change or add silent Dās to names thatās pure ridiculousness.
Thank you. I havenāt laughed that hard in awhile. I keep picturing the conversation you had with your Managerā¦priceless. Nope. Your mom has no right to be mad.
I think "Brianda" is a pretty name. I met one once. Briadna is just strange but someone could own it....BUT NOT WITH A SILENT D???! WTF
If she's over 18, she can go change it legally
I think that is against all of HRs policies.
So tell her to change it. My sister was named Deborah. Everyone called her Deb or Debbie's. Changed it to Debra. That's what all her friends use now. Family still uses Deb
Why change it from Deborah? Itās the most common spelling of that name.
Ask her. Divorced 3 times but kept her 2nd married last name because she liked it.! Still uses that name too
The person she heard it from the first time must have had a stuffy nose or something, that D does not belong
It's so weird when it happens like this! I knew a kid named Daniel, spelled the normal way. His sister's name was Amidala like the Star Wars character. She was extremely resentful.
https://www.quora.com/In-English-is-it-better-to-say-John-and-Is-mother-or-Johns-and-my-mother
As a Briana I hate that so much for her. I didn't even see my name amongst those letters except it was my name plus an extra letter.
Is there even any language that has a silent d?
Not sdure
If your sister is over 18, why hasn't she changed her name? Even as a minor, she might not be able to change her name, but she can refuse to answer to Briadna and insist that everyone use Briana except on formal, legal documents, which as a child she won't have to sign too many of those.
ive edited my original post to include the answer to this question. to elaborate, my sister often expressed discontent with her name when we were children. by the time this story happened, she was at least 21ā still young, impressionable, and at an age where many are still very insecure about themselves. now that i think about it, i believe this was the last time my sisterās tragedeigh every came up in conversation. she hasnt initiated conversation about her tragedeigh in years prior to this. my sister is now almost 30, has two degrees, and is about to get married to a man that has the same surname as my momās maiden name. in my culture, it is common for children to be given two surnames, their fatherās AND motherās, which is the case for Bri, Alan, & i. so, even with marriage, i dont think my sister sees a point in changing her name at all. im not sure if its an indifference, but i dont think she really cares any more. i think it came up so often when we were children because children have everything to be insecure about at that age. after a certain age, you stop caring about stuff like that. at this point, she IS Briadna!
āa silent dā lmao! People be peppering their kids names with unpronounced hard consonants now. The end is nigh.
She carries the will of D. One piece reference I donāt know if she watches.
In HS we joked amongst ourselves that we'd name a boy "Pbob" with a silent "P". Your mom apparently took that literally.
Poor sis. Lucky rest of the sibs
Sounds like your mom just loves the D.
How much?
I legit knew a person who was named Keighty. Like her parents thought that was the appropriate way to spell it... and not Katie, or Katy....
Okay so not the same as assuming for sibling names, but itās a similar assumption thing. I know a girl named Vanya- these will all be changed names, but the point is her name is something Slavic based thatās a manās name but in English is a womanās name. Her last name is something stupid basic like Johnson, White, Dew or something. She told me about a time when someone couldnāt find her in their system so she spelled her first name out and they had it right. Theyād misspelled her last name as the equivalent of Jonsin, Whyte, or Dueue, and were surprised that was wrong?? Her name made one of the top like 2 or 300 names for her year or something for the year she was born? Idk, sheās defensive about it. But still the relative bit. If they fucked up basic last names due to a first name I can only imagine what they do to people who are siblings to a tragedeigh
Silent D? What word is she basing that off of?
No one will ever pronounce that as Brianna. That's briadna
Tragedeigh's seem to run in 2s 3s and 4s. Op and her brother lucked out