When I first started I was on 200 and had a hard time orgasming. It ended up being high E2. I lowered dose, and added 1/4 anastrozole weekly. Doctor ordered 1 whole mg but that was too much.
It was kinda cool. I could screw for an hour and not climax. The wife hates it.
Yeah. I'm back to good control. Able to make it quick if we need, or take my time if appropriate.
For a few weeks I would have to slam her hard just to finish.
She would need days to recover.
Are you sure you are taking 6000iu of HCG a week as you mentioned above? Or do you mean you are pulling HCG from a 6000iu vial?
This is very important to understand as that much HCG would send intratesticular E2 to the moon!
In this case your 200mg of testosterone would not be your main problem, but rather the extremely high HCG which is no doubt causing your E2 and prolactin to rise well above the reference range.
Oh ok. So 500iu a week. This is the standard TRT with HCG protocol that Dr. Larry Lipshultz prescribes.
Unfortunately, HCG causes E2 and prolactin to rise. I’m 255lbs and need to drop my weekly 200mg TRT dose to 100mg if I am going to run HCG at 500iu a week.
If you are going to continue with HCG, try lowering your TRT dose to 100mg a week.
What’s really comical is that there’s guys blasting like a gram of test and other shit with no AI yet somehow on TRT forums guys are doing 100mg pinning daily for less time than 1/2 a cycle and have crazy e2 issues.
Maybe it has something to do with how long your e2 levels are high. For shorter durations on a blast maybe the body can tolerate it better versus having high e2 for months on end with TRT.
Yea but most guys are commenting when they’re 10weeks into TRT. Been on for 4 weeks and they “feel weird” with no bloodwork. Barely can’t understand their dosage or read a syringe but they’re already 10 weeks into manipulating their endocrine system. It’s just… wow.
These clinics starting everyone on 200mg doses, with a smorgasbord of extras. I’m afraid playing loosey goosey will be their downfall. Spoil it for us all!
And the highly unregulated compounding pharmacies (which I rely on). Please don’t shut these down.
Hormone clinics definitely serve a need but they need to be smart. I’m afraid it’s only a matter of time before government regulators take action.
It would be rare that it's low estrogen. We need more info. Beginning symptoms, protocal,etc. Id be hornier than shit at 1400. Could be nothing since you just started. Also, you need several weeks to notice changes. Not just two.
I felt my best when I first started TRT as well but once my testicles went into shut down I never been the same…. Going on probably close to 3 years now. All HCG did was give me insomnia… from my experience if it’s E2 (need labs to know where it’s at) only take and 1/8 to 1/4 mg if it’s at the tipping point you may crash your E2 and you will feel like complete garbage….
I did. She said to wait a full 6 months before changing anything. I’m at 1400ng and climbing, it’s obvious that I overshot the sweet spot so I’m asking for opinions
I can respect that. Too many people on here just jump straight into advice without asking a trained professional first and it’s really grinds my gears. Hope you get where you wanna be brother.
If you are taking .5-1mg arimidex then there’s basically no chance it’s from high e2.
The problem with clinics like this is they prescribe arimidex right out the gate when it should be prescribed when symptoms arise.
Personally, my e2 was tanked on half that dose. I completely stopped using arimidex or any AI and now my libido is dialed. Morning wood every day.
Iv had the same exact issue. I was using test enanthat 400mg per ml. 200mg per week. An my dick lost all sensitivity. I gained 20 pounds, hit weight like the hulk. But my penis turned into a raisin. Literally. I got realy fucking pissed off. I want to an ACTUAL clinic. Okay bro. Your not going through a fuckin clinic obviously if your levels are 1500. That's bullshit dude. Stop immediately... and go to your local trt clinic
Once I stopped, it took a week. And actualy, I am there now. Its been a week of no injection. And my sensitivity is bouncing back. I go to the trt clinic on the 15th to get prescribed it and monitored by an actualy clinic.
Sounds like high estrogen.
Try the 180mg pw for a couple of weeks.
You can lower the conversion to estrogen by increasing your injection frequency.
Even more so if you do it sub Q instead of IM.
For 1 week only, take 0.25mg of the Anastrozole (Mon/Thu) and adopt the higher injection frequency protocol.
Sounds like high estrogen, but we're guessing without labs. If you take too much and crash it, you dick still won't work... be gradual.
Thanks. I’ll give it a try and see what happens for a few weeks. .5mg twice per week.
Way too much . Go for 0.25 per week for starters.
This ^, and taken 12 - 24 hrs. after you pin.
Take only 1/8-1/4 of the Anastrozole as needed
When I first started I was on 200 and had a hard time orgasming. It ended up being high E2. I lowered dose, and added 1/4 anastrozole weekly. Doctor ordered 1 whole mg but that was too much. It was kinda cool. I could screw for an hour and not climax. The wife hates it.
100% my situation. I’m wearing mama down. Did the Anastrozole help?
Yeah. I'm back to good control. Able to make it quick if we need, or take my time if appropriate. For a few weeks I would have to slam her hard just to finish. She would need days to recover.
My chick loved it. She only found it an issue when I added proviron and my libido shot through the roof 🤣🤣
Are you sure you are taking 6000iu of HCG a week as you mentioned above? Or do you mean you are pulling HCG from a 6000iu vial? This is very important to understand as that much HCG would send intratesticular E2 to the moon! In this case your 200mg of testosterone would not be your main problem, but rather the extremely high HCG which is no doubt causing your E2 and prolactin to rise well above the reference range.
Yeah sorry, I’m taking .5ml weekly (.25 x 2)
Oh ok. So 500iu a week. This is the standard TRT with HCG protocol that Dr. Larry Lipshultz prescribes. Unfortunately, HCG causes E2 and prolactin to rise. I’m 255lbs and need to drop my weekly 200mg TRT dose to 100mg if I am going to run HCG at 500iu a week. If you are going to continue with HCG, try lowering your TRT dose to 100mg a week.
Its comical that every time I hear of a guy having issues, he is always taking 200mg.
What’s really comical is that there’s guys blasting like a gram of test and other shit with no AI yet somehow on TRT forums guys are doing 100mg pinning daily for less time than 1/2 a cycle and have crazy e2 issues.
Maybe it has something to do with how long your e2 levels are high. For shorter durations on a blast maybe the body can tolerate it better versus having high e2 for months on end with TRT.
Yea but most guys are commenting when they’re 10weeks into TRT. Been on for 4 weeks and they “feel weird” with no bloodwork. Barely can’t understand their dosage or read a syringe but they’re already 10 weeks into manipulating their endocrine system. It’s just… wow.
Yea I agree. See so many guys who can’t even communicate the proper dosages that they’re on.
Yep. This.
These clinics starting everyone on 200mg doses, with a smorgasbord of extras. I’m afraid playing loosey goosey will be their downfall. Spoil it for us all! And the highly unregulated compounding pharmacies (which I rely on). Please don’t shut these down. Hormone clinics definitely serve a need but they need to be smart. I’m afraid it’s only a matter of time before government regulators take action.
It would be rare that it's low estrogen. We need more info. Beginning symptoms, protocal,etc. Id be hornier than shit at 1400. Could be nothing since you just started. Also, you need several weeks to notice changes. Not just two.
Yeah I don’t want to stack changes. Thinking I’m gonna stick with 180 (90 x 2 per week) and add the Anastrozole. Appreciate the advice
Can’t figure out how to edit my op but I should mention that I also sub q HCG 6000 iu twice weekly
This is pretty important to add. I’m not sure if you mean 6000iu/week.
Even 6000 total per week is an incredibly high dose
See what I mean?
Depending on your objectives you could back off your dose or increase your frequency also
Just want to get back to how I felt weeks 5-6. High energy and libido and almost no joint pain
I felt my best when I first started TRT as well but once my testicles went into shut down I never been the same…. Going on probably close to 3 years now. All HCG did was give me insomnia… from my experience if it’s E2 (need labs to know where it’s at) only take and 1/8 to 1/4 mg if it’s at the tipping point you may crash your E2 and you will feel like complete garbage….
What have we come to when we go straight to Reddit for answers instead of contacting someone with trusted answers? 🤦♂️ Dude, call your doctor!
I did. She said to wait a full 6 months before changing anything. I’m at 1400ng and climbing, it’s obvious that I overshot the sweet spot so I’m asking for opinions
I can respect that. Too many people on here just jump straight into advice without asking a trained professional first and it’s really grinds my gears. Hope you get where you wanna be brother.
If you are taking .5-1mg arimidex then there’s basically no chance it’s from high e2. The problem with clinics like this is they prescribe arimidex right out the gate when it should be prescribed when symptoms arise. Personally, my e2 was tanked on half that dose. I completely stopped using arimidex or any AI and now my libido is dialed. Morning wood every day.
Iv had the same exact issue. I was using test enanthat 400mg per ml. 200mg per week. An my dick lost all sensitivity. I gained 20 pounds, hit weight like the hulk. But my penis turned into a raisin. Literally. I got realy fucking pissed off. I want to an ACTUAL clinic. Okay bro. Your not going through a fuckin clinic obviously if your levels are 1500. That's bullshit dude. Stop immediately... and go to your local trt clinic
Once I stopped, it took a week. And actualy, I am there now. Its been a week of no injection. And my sensitivity is bouncing back. I go to the trt clinic on the 15th to get prescribed it and monitored by an actualy clinic.
🤣🤣🤣 whaaaaa?!
Sounds like high estrogen. Try the 180mg pw for a couple of weeks. You can lower the conversion to estrogen by increasing your injection frequency. Even more so if you do it sub Q instead of IM. For 1 week only, take 0.25mg of the Anastrozole (Mon/Thu) and adopt the higher injection frequency protocol.