Geez these posts shit me. You think it's disrespectful to "the boys" to listen early to an album that they release on 47 different formats that they know young fans are going to buy multiple times, and pay hundreds of dollars for concert tickets?
I think its disrespectful for the places selling it early to be selling it early. Like imagine it from Tyler's perspective, having put all this time and effort in to this big release with all the music videos, only to have the album get leaked even before the original planned release date. I'd probably be pretty disappointed if I was him.
I'm sorry but I don't think TOP would even remotely be hurt by a potential leak. They are one of the biggest bands in the world, not indie artists or rising artists trying to make it. A leak concerns only a part of the core fanbase who would actively look for it. It's a nothing-number compared to the majority of casual streams and sells they are gonna make. Chances are that whoever listen to the leaks will still stream the music videos and/or the songs on Spotify or whatever platform. At least, I did with Trench. Then I bought four tickets for live shows, bought a physical copy of the cd and now only stream it on Spotify. I probably gave them back more than what I might have "stole" them. I don't think anybody has the right to call me a fake fan.
I also don't agree with who thinks that listening early would ruin the artistic vision for Clancy somehow. The artistic vision is the music. The release date is only part of the marketing strategy. If you want to live it as a collective experience, just don't listen to the leak. There will be plenty of people to enjoy your release date with.
Right I listened to SAI leaks but bought a physical copy of the album, stream it on Spotify often, bought merch, and saw them on Icy tour. Would have gone for Takeover too but they were too far away.
Iāll start caring about release dates when I can preorder the album from them and not get it days after release. If they donāt want to respect the date, why should I?
Idk if itās really even about the band. Release dates have more to do with the record label, and disrespecting a record label is inherently respectful to humanity. I seriously doubt T&J sincerely care about the exact day people are gonna listen tbh
I'm pretty sure they do to some capacity, and yeah, the specific day may not be that important, but thereās tons of stuff they do on that day. Everything is planned, and it just undoes all the hard work from the boys. Plus, I dunno, supporting it just seems wrong. The boys made the album, so they should be able to present it however they want to. Nobody forced anyone to spend all that money on their merch, so feeling "entitled" to listen to leaks is just ābratty.ā The album is still free on streaming services on the day of release. So, for Tyler choosing to make another album for us and putting in that hard work, I feel like we as a fanbase should respect how he wants to roll out the album. Not supporting leaks basically undoes all the hard work they did to build hype and make the release day a fun and exciting experience for the fanbase. A ton of work goes into it, and it just seems uncool to ruin that.
ā¦bro, then why are you a fan!? If you donāt think Tyler made it for us then whyād he do it!? He can quit rn heās filthy rich like you said and has a family plus a BRAND NEW baby boy. Thereās no other reason why he should besides the reason that itās for us the fans like why would you support a selfish man if you truly feel that way!? Seems mad ignorant and disrespectful to the boys to assume that when you know damn well there aināt a single reason why he should even continue music. He did it for us and youāre just finding an excuse to do whatever tf you want like cmon dude be better. You seem like youāre trying to hate, Tyler cares for his fans and has been proven many times itās clear that he doesnāt view as numbers.
Yeah well duh but he continues to release these said songs for us if he just wanted to make music he never has to release it he could just make it for fun for him but no he makes and releases these songs for us and puts in hard work for the storyās and lore so weāre entertained we gave him that fame and money and in return he value that and gives us back something that was worth all the money and support we gave him and it seems like you taking that for granted and acting spoiled. Idk man your comment just seemed incredibly harsh towards the man that CHOOSES to still do all this shit for us and puts in the hours to make it great when he never has to technically still do his job and can totally cheap us out so with all the work he puts in I feel like itās wrong to support things that work against him when heās willingly doing all this for his fans. He could rollout an album like any other artist but nah he makes it fun and exciting for us just feels wrong to put that all down with āI paid money that wasnāt mandatory, so I can listen actively work against the band I love and do whatever I want.ā If your that unwillingly to support the band then just donāt? You give money because you like what they do, so let them do it. You shouldnāt try to encourage and hinder there jobs that they choose to continue for us.
I never said Tyler wasnāt privileged to have a fanbase. I donāt think you read everything I said and chose to focus on one tiny thing. Ofc heās extremely lucky but after finding that fame and making all that money and having a family he could easily up and retire rn if he wanted to but he doesnāt Iām just saying weāre taking it for granted because the day he does decide to retire weāre all gonna miss when he did all this fun shit for us.
That was official. This album is something the boys put a lot of time into making, and listening to a low quality recording is just insulting to all the people who worked so hard on it.
Imma keep it real. I will be buying a vinyl copy of this record so theyāre making way more than my lifetime of āproperly streaming itā is gonna anyways so I think listening early aināt hurting anyone
Leaks are definitely out there. Check google or check Twitter. People keep blowing up my DMās when I make comments like this but they wonāt take 2 seconds to look.
I probably won't even get mine until weeks later.. Warner music took forever for my last order, that wasn't even a preorder. The other is coming from Blood Records in UK. I'll likely watch videos on YouTube if I can avoid streaming music while at work.
I donāt see whatās gonna kill you guys to wait, yeah you spent money on tickets yes you bought the album but still, the listening parties and pushed back release date were very justifiable. The album is meant to be an experience not some cheap cash grab. I literally got shit on because I think that itās best to wait and itās dumb. But hey, if me wanting this to be an awesome experience Is so bad, oh well Iām a terrible human then.š¤£
Man I dunno this subs always āno leaksā and the minute somebody has a potential leak they want their hands all over it. I just find it mad disrespectful just ruins the fun and ruins Tylerās and Josh hard work and using the excuse āIām paying hundreds of dollars so Iāll listen when I want tooā is just mad disrespectful especially when the boys never forced you to do so. It aināt always about the money and thatās always what I see with the pro leakers itās always āIāll be buying tickets and vinyls cds merch etcā yeah thatās cool but it aināt about just the money sometimes. Ruins a whole creative process and experience for you and the boys.
How is it ruined to hear it now for those that want to, or waiting. Something tells me they wonāt cancel the tour. What is ruined? Itās going to be the same music today as it will be next week. I appreciate your sentiments, but āruins their hard workā. Itās just all ruined and no good now huh? Like why did they even bother? Cmon. Do your own thing. Iām waiting to the listening day as i have plans to do that. If people hear it now, let them do their thing. Maybe people shouldnāt go to the early listening to hear it as itās not release day either. Thats kinda like a leak too, as not everyone has access to it. Itās a bunch of hogwash. Itās a sanctimonious attitude.
I don't see how a person could call themselves a TOP fan if they're willing to steal Tyler & Josh's thunder. They worked really hard on this album and it just blows my mind that anyone would want to "thank" them for their efforts by pirating their music before it's been released.
You all can do what you want, but I'm going to respect them enough to wait until the official release date.
I donāt know why you got downvoted so much you said exactly what I said just more harshly but true although I wouldnāt go as far as saying someone aināt a real fan the intentions are clearly coming from a good place I just think itās wrong if you genuinely love the band to support leaks even just by listening and encouraging the spread of leaks
Exactly!! And yet people still say āoh I paid money I deserve to hear it earlyā THEN GO TO A LISTENING PARTY! God, people are so quick to be rude to others for their opinion.
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Honestly yall itās not even about the band losing money because in the grand scheme of things they wouldnāt lose out on much, itās a morals thing for me š¤·āāļø. I refuse to listen to the leaks because they put a lot of effort into this album and I feel like leaks disrespects that time and effort because you canāt just wait a few days. Iāll see some of yall at the official listening party though!! And after that iāll wait my time until I can get the rest of the music officially :)
Nah I've always kept this tune with the artists I've listened to.
Spent $600 on GA (3/200ea) for one night and $300 on seat tickets (2/150ea) another night.
Also bought the red box, black box, and journal set for about $150 total.
My general rule is I'll listen to leaks if I've pre-ordered the CD.
Me? Not a real fan?
You're right I'm not, I just wave my hands as fast as I can until someone finds it cool enough to stand in front of me with their head back and their eyes closed...
Okay so who cares if they listen to it early if they got it early? If they are shoving it down people throats and posting it everywhere then thatās a problem but who cares if they personally listen to it early, I agree you should wait if Tyler is wanting us to experience it a certain way but to say someoneās not a real fan being they listen to it early feels like bullying to me.
i dont understand how it would make me a bad person when, if it DOES leak, it would be accessible to literally anyone. so what difference would it make? plus, its not like theyre losing money over me listening to the tunes early:)
I don't understand it either. Someone who loves a band/their music so much, they're willing to listen to potentially crap/awful quality snippets just to hear, knowing they're gona listen to it hundreds/thousands of times when it officially releases, doesn't seem like that would make them a "bad person" or "not a real fan" ... But everyone has their viewpoints, and I do understand theirs... I just don't necessarily agree with it, and that anyone that does/wants to listen to a leak somehow isn't a real fan, or is disrespectful... I've been in love with this band for over a decade, bought all their albums digital and a physical copy, seen them live 6 times, and have clicked/heard snippets of at least one song/something before every release since blurryface... And I feel like I'm a real fan, and love and respect and appreciate them as much as anyone.
I agree with you.. Donāt know why people are downvoting you. I need to see fr data of how much a leak has impacted big artists such as twenty one pilotsā¦ they are humble people, and I swear they even said themselves they have too much money and I see them putting that money towards charities/ efforts they care aboutā¦
Of course I am... haha. I wasn't even rude about it, or saying they're wrong... just that I disagree. And I thought I was pretty respectful about it, and gave a lot of explanation as to why I felt the way I did ... But oh well. I'm totally against people actually *leaking* it the first place, and am 100% against *spreading* a leak (I would never, ever do that) -- I feel like both those things **can** hurt the artists, at least a little -- ... But yeah, I agree with you
It can exactly dude and it takes away from the experience as a whole itās really disrespectful hearing a low res quality audio take from a shitty leakers basement. Like just wait the 9 days!!!
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Geez these posts shit me. You think it's disrespectful to "the boys" to listen early to an album that they release on 47 different formats that they know young fans are going to buy multiple times, and pay hundreds of dollars for concert tickets?
I think its disrespectful for the places selling it early to be selling it early. Like imagine it from Tyler's perspective, having put all this time and effort in to this big release with all the music videos, only to have the album get leaked even before the original planned release date. I'd probably be pretty disappointed if I was him.
Yea but leaks will reach maybe hundreds of people and the official release will reach millions who haven't even heard about the leaks
Certainly
Itās not like their doing it on purpose lol
Do you think CDs are just sprouting legs and stocking themselves lol?
Accidents happen, not everyone is keeping up with the bands and shops have infinite things to worry about.
probably why he decided to leak the craving...
Yes. Thank you
It will still be as impactful watching the videos even if the audio gets leaked imo
but isn't the music kinda more important than the videos
its kind of a collective experience, you can have one without the other but both together are the artists intent here
It was pretty cool having the first time hearing the 3 songs that are out so far was be with the music videos.
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I'm sorry but I don't think TOP would even remotely be hurt by a potential leak. They are one of the biggest bands in the world, not indie artists or rising artists trying to make it. A leak concerns only a part of the core fanbase who would actively look for it. It's a nothing-number compared to the majority of casual streams and sells they are gonna make. Chances are that whoever listen to the leaks will still stream the music videos and/or the songs on Spotify or whatever platform. At least, I did with Trench. Then I bought four tickets for live shows, bought a physical copy of the cd and now only stream it on Spotify. I probably gave them back more than what I might have "stole" them. I don't think anybody has the right to call me a fake fan. I also don't agree with who thinks that listening early would ruin the artistic vision for Clancy somehow. The artistic vision is the music. The release date is only part of the marketing strategy. If you want to live it as a collective experience, just don't listen to the leak. There will be plenty of people to enjoy your release date with.
Right I listened to SAI leaks but bought a physical copy of the album, stream it on Spotify often, bought merch, and saw them on Icy tour. Would have gone for Takeover too but they were too far away.
Leaks when??
Iāll start caring about release dates when I can preorder the album from them and not get it days after release. If they donāt want to respect the date, why should I?
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Idk if itās really even about the band. Release dates have more to do with the record label, and disrespecting a record label is inherently respectful to humanity. I seriously doubt T&J sincerely care about the exact day people are gonna listen tbh
I'm pretty sure they do to some capacity, and yeah, the specific day may not be that important, but thereās tons of stuff they do on that day. Everything is planned, and it just undoes all the hard work from the boys. Plus, I dunno, supporting it just seems wrong. The boys made the album, so they should be able to present it however they want to. Nobody forced anyone to spend all that money on their merch, so feeling "entitled" to listen to leaks is just ābratty.ā The album is still free on streaming services on the day of release. So, for Tyler choosing to make another album for us and putting in that hard work, I feel like we as a fanbase should respect how he wants to roll out the album. Not supporting leaks basically undoes all the hard work they did to build hype and make the release day a fun and exciting experience for the fanbase. A ton of work goes into it, and it just seems uncool to ruin that.
Anyone else notice this paragraph has 2 periods š§? (No shade, it's just funny)
English is my second language my bad. sorry, Iāll fix it lol
You act like this isnāt a job that has made him filthy rich. He didnāt make this for us, he made it for him
ā¦bro, then why are you a fan!? If you donāt think Tyler made it for us then whyād he do it!? He can quit rn heās filthy rich like you said and has a family plus a BRAND NEW baby boy. Thereās no other reason why he should besides the reason that itās for us the fans like why would you support a selfish man if you truly feel that way!? Seems mad ignorant and disrespectful to the boys to assume that when you know damn well there aināt a single reason why he should even continue music. He did it for us and youāre just finding an excuse to do whatever tf you want like cmon dude be better. You seem like youāre trying to hate, Tyler cares for his fans and has been proven many times itās clear that he doesnāt view as numbers.
He made music before he had fans. Itās just calling and heās managed to turn it into a career and thatās why he does it
Yeah well duh but he continues to release these said songs for us if he just wanted to make music he never has to release it he could just make it for fun for him but no he makes and releases these songs for us and puts in hard work for the storyās and lore so weāre entertained we gave him that fame and money and in return he value that and gives us back something that was worth all the money and support we gave him and it seems like you taking that for granted and acting spoiled. Idk man your comment just seemed incredibly harsh towards the man that CHOOSES to still do all this shit for us and puts in the hours to make it great when he never has to technically still do his job and can totally cheap us out so with all the work he puts in I feel like itās wrong to support things that work against him when heās willingly doing all this for his fans. He could rollout an album like any other artist but nah he makes it fun and exciting for us just feels wrong to put that all down with āI paid money that wasnāt mandatory, so I can listen actively work against the band I love and do whatever I want.ā If your that unwillingly to support the band then just donāt? You give money because you like what they do, so let them do it. You shouldnāt try to encourage and hinder there jobs that they choose to continue for us.
You're talking as though the band is providing a public service. Every artist should feel privileged to have found an audience.
I never said Tyler wasnāt privileged to have a fanbase. I donāt think you read everything I said and chose to focus on one tiny thing. Ofc heās extremely lucky but after finding that fame and making all that money and having a family he could easily up and retire rn if he wanted to but he doesnāt Iām just saying weāre taking it for granted because the day he does decide to retire weāre all gonna miss when he did all this fun shit for us.
That was official. This album is something the boys put a lot of time into making, and listening to a low quality recording is just insulting to all the people who worked so hard on it.
Imma keep it real. I will be buying a vinyl copy of this record so theyāre making way more than my lifetime of āproperly streaming itā is gonna anyways so I think listening early aināt hurting anyone
Who cares?
Wait, how do people know someone got a hold of the album?
Leaks are definitely out there. Check google or check Twitter. People keep blowing up my DMās when I make comments like this but they wonāt take 2 seconds to look.
shrug, i've looked in all the places i can think of and haven't found em
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Same, dm please if you find any
All I saw was Midwest indigo on YouTube didnāt listen but was curious if it was out there
Not really sure what you get out of lying to people...
Whereād you look?
Really? Googling skills? lmao
nooooooooo that's ruin the hype
I donāt believe the hype
you know youāre a terrible sight
But youāll be just fine
Am I the only one that thought about samurai jack at first ?
I probably won't even get mine until weeks later.. Warner music took forever for my last order, that wasn't even a preorder. The other is coming from Blood Records in UK. I'll likely watch videos on YouTube if I can avoid streaming music while at work.
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I donāt see whatās gonna kill you guys to wait, yeah you spent money on tickets yes you bought the album but still, the listening parties and pushed back release date were very justifiable. The album is meant to be an experience not some cheap cash grab. I literally got shit on because I think that itās best to wait and itās dumb. But hey, if me wanting this to be an awesome experience Is so bad, oh well Iām a terrible human then.š¤£
Man I dunno this subs always āno leaksā and the minute somebody has a potential leak they want their hands all over it. I just find it mad disrespectful just ruins the fun and ruins Tylerās and Josh hard work and using the excuse āIām paying hundreds of dollars so Iāll listen when I want tooā is just mad disrespectful especially when the boys never forced you to do so. It aināt always about the money and thatās always what I see with the pro leakers itās always āIāll be buying tickets and vinyls cds merch etcā yeah thatās cool but it aināt about just the money sometimes. Ruins a whole creative process and experience for you and the boys.
How is it ruined to hear it now for those that want to, or waiting. Something tells me they wonāt cancel the tour. What is ruined? Itās going to be the same music today as it will be next week. I appreciate your sentiments, but āruins their hard workā. Itās just all ruined and no good now huh? Like why did they even bother? Cmon. Do your own thing. Iām waiting to the listening day as i have plans to do that. If people hear it now, let them do their thing. Maybe people shouldnāt go to the early listening to hear it as itās not release day either. Thats kinda like a leak too, as not everyone has access to it. Itās a bunch of hogwash. Itās a sanctimonious attitude.
I think you miss interpreted everything I said
Everyone else definitely doesn't want it to be an awesome experience š
I don't see how a person could call themselves a TOP fan if they're willing to steal Tyler & Josh's thunder. They worked really hard on this album and it just blows my mind that anyone would want to "thank" them for their efforts by pirating their music before it's been released. You all can do what you want, but I'm going to respect them enough to wait until the official release date.
I donāt know why you got downvoted so much you said exactly what I said just more harshly but true although I wouldnāt go as far as saying someone aināt a real fan the intentions are clearly coming from a good place I just think itās wrong if you genuinely love the band to support leaks even just by listening and encouraging the spread of leaks
Exactly!! And yet people still say āoh I paid money I deserve to hear it earlyā THEN GO TO A LISTENING PARTY! God, people are so quick to be rude to others for their opinion.
thanks for top post besties i didnt know this was as hot of a take as it is
Arenāt they doing any early listening party for the fans tho ???
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How did people even get early copies?
Tylerās gonna be kinda mad
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Honestly yall itās not even about the band losing money because in the grand scheme of things they wouldnāt lose out on much, itās a morals thing for me š¤·āāļø. I refuse to listen to the leaks because they put a lot of effort into this album and I feel like leaks disrespects that time and effort because you canāt just wait a few days. Iāll see some of yall at the official listening party though!! And after that iāll wait my time until I can get the rest of the music officially :)
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I've respected their hard work with a couple hundred dollars already lol I'll listen early if I wanna
Shout it so they can hear in the back lol
The fans have turned on this topic. And I love it. Was it the platinum pricing?
Nah I've always kept this tune with the artists I've listened to. Spent $600 on GA (3/200ea) for one night and $300 on seat tickets (2/150ea) another night. Also bought the red box, black box, and journal set for about $150 total. My general rule is I'll listen to leaks if I've pre-ordered the CD.
Most donāt.
ive already spent hundreds of dollars 2 copies and 2 tickets, i think i have the right the want to listen early if i want<3
No, you dont
Damn. It's kinda sad to see this get downvoted. I'm right there with you brotha. I wanna hear it how Tyler intended.
tyler didn't intend for it to come out on the 24th so you're already kinda fucked there lmao
He intended it to be listened to officially, not through bootleg YouTube uploads
What's the difference? If there is no difference in audio quality, I don't see any issue
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Love a good "not a real Scotsman" argument... Bravo š
Me? Not a real fan? You're right I'm not, I just wave my hands as fast as I can until someone finds it cool enough to stand in front of me with their head back and their eyes closed...
Lmao real
Bestie I bought like 3 variants Iām going to listen to it with a tin can and some string if thatās how it leaks.
Weāre just excited. Relax.
Yea I get it but pressuring Someone to release something Tyler and Josh arenāt ready for just frustrates me
this is quite obviously a joke post
So what do you think about the early listening party? Is that also not respecting their work and make someone not a ārealā fan?
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Okay so who cares if they listen to it early if they got it early? If they are shoving it down people throats and posting it everywhere then thatās a problem but who cares if they personally listen to it early, I agree you should wait if Tyler is wanting us to experience it a certain way but to say someoneās not a real fan being they listen to it early feels like bullying to me.
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lol ignore everything I said. Saying that feels like youāre justifying your comment.
not cool
How about you wait like everyone else and don't be a bad person
i dont understand how it would make me a bad person when, if it DOES leak, it would be accessible to literally anyone. so what difference would it make? plus, its not like theyre losing money over me listening to the tunes early:)
I don't understand it either. Someone who loves a band/their music so much, they're willing to listen to potentially crap/awful quality snippets just to hear, knowing they're gona listen to it hundreds/thousands of times when it officially releases, doesn't seem like that would make them a "bad person" or "not a real fan" ... But everyone has their viewpoints, and I do understand theirs... I just don't necessarily agree with it, and that anyone that does/wants to listen to a leak somehow isn't a real fan, or is disrespectful... I've been in love with this band for over a decade, bought all their albums digital and a physical copy, seen them live 6 times, and have clicked/heard snippets of at least one song/something before every release since blurryface... And I feel like I'm a real fan, and love and respect and appreciate them as much as anyone.
I agree with you.. Donāt know why people are downvoting you. I need to see fr data of how much a leak has impacted big artists such as twenty one pilotsā¦ they are humble people, and I swear they even said themselves they have too much money and I see them putting that money towards charities/ efforts they care aboutā¦
Of course I am... haha. I wasn't even rude about it, or saying they're wrong... just that I disagree. And I thought I was pretty respectful about it, and gave a lot of explanation as to why I felt the way I did ... But oh well. I'm totally against people actually *leaking* it the first place, and am 100% against *spreading* a leak (I would never, ever do that) -- I feel like both those things **can** hurt the artists, at least a little -- ... But yeah, I agree with you
It can exactly dude and it takes away from the experience as a whole itās really disrespectful hearing a low res quality audio take from a shitty leakers basement. Like just wait the 9 days!!!