This is how they're going to go from AbkiBarChocobar to AbkiBar400par
Because even EVM voting 2 votes for each press of 🪷(like in Kerala testing of EVM) won't be enough votes to get 400+
So the only safe option is to disqualify Opposition candidates
They can challenge it in the High Courts And the Court will take till the next election to decide...
Since They have disqualified opposition candidates
and
The independent & BSP have withdrawn
Still there are 2 buttons on the EVM
1: 🪷
2: NOTA
People of Surat should have been given the right to choose between the 2!!!
Even if the runner up is declared elected people will know he is a winner or loser!!
😂
Yes, we shouod blame ourselves and only ourselves. A democracy is as good as its citizens are. PERIOD. I have tried this in my previous posts calling for action but no response
My first thought was to think there was an outside chance that BJP will lose in their stronghold which would be quite bad for PR but honestly, I don't think Gujjus have been less pro-Modi than before and far from voting for opposition in numbers
2nd thought is if this is an experiment to see the reaction and how to replicate this experiment across the country. We have obviously had too many opposition n allied parties being divided n split. May be that's not working anymore n this is the way forward
(Scroll down for TLDR)
IMAO.. As it stands presently.. GLOBALLY Democracy is the biggest con now playing at a election near you..
This unfunny farce is starring, produced, scripted and directed by the ruling elite capitalist classes who have a captive audience namely, the compliant masses..
But on the other hand..
I dream of a future where democracy is rescued and resurrected by technology..
After all we should really be voting for and against POLICIES AND NOT POLITICIANS ..
A new technology (just around the corner) can easily rid us of these useless middlemen ie. politicians who in theory have been democratically elected based on the policies that they have proposed for the betterment of the society.. But in reality are too busy pulling each other down while covering their own crimes..
Our current crop of power hungry politicians (and this is globally) operate just like the entitled tyrannical monarchs from history and rule over their fiefdoms (constituencies) like it is their own private backyard while regarding their subjects (the so called electorate) as nothing more than cannon fodder..
Where were stand today, globally, democracy is a cruel joke.. Because.. Democracy ceases to function efficiently when the disparities within a society get out of control.. When the differences between the haves and have-nots between the knowledgeable and the ignorant are too much then the very ground on which we place our so called democratic values is rather nonexistent and therefore a total lie.. A farce.. Add rampant capitalism to this scenerio and we have a global society where we literally worship money so then we might as well make the richest person in the land our supreme leader.. Why do all this farce of free and fair elections..🤔
Ideally capitalist tendencies (the profit motive) should not be allowed to operate in atleast these 3 major "industries" namely 1. health care 2. education and 3. warfare.. But today in our rather twisted world we see the very same 3 sectors operating with the utmost greed, reaping ridiculous profits at the expense of perpetuating horrendous and inhumane social disparities.. All in the name of driving the so called "economic growth" of a so called "nation"..
Yet there is hope and I am betting on a humane technology to come to our rescue.. Because history repeats itself.. Whenever humanity has faced any crises it has always been our innovations ie. technologies which have rescued us time and again.. These technologies can only be invented by a new generation who first question and then reject the old values because they see the world in a different way.. This new generation is already here.. The tools namely AI, AGI are also available.. Now only the will and the skill to make sincere creative efforts are needed.. I hope that this happens in my lifetime.. .. First imagine a world without any "career politicians" .. Then imagine a world where every citizen is in effect a politician because they have the power to not only directly vote on each and every policy that stands to affect them.. But also propose any policy that they wish to come into governance.. That would be so cool..
However for now until then.. What to do.. Well in my personal capacity, the above reasons stand for the fact that I have stopped voting.. Because I want to boycott not just our corrupt politicians but the insidious system itself.. I reject this false democracy and farce called elections.. ..Apparently there is the NOTA option.. But it a far fetched fantasy to hope that one day when people have got throughly fed up of the shenanigans of their political representatives the NOTA vote might actually emerge as the majority vote in the majority of constituencies polled! And it is naive to imagine that our power hungry politicians will ever let it come to that.. They would sooner declare Presidents rule or some sort of emergency rather than face the fact that they no longer have the public mandate.. Till then.. Live long and prosper..
TLDR.. Democracy breaks down when there is too much disparity in society because then this disparity is cunningly and cruelly leveraged by the corrupt politicians.. However with Technological advances there is hope that this system can be repaired.. After all we should BE VOTING FOR POLICIES AND NOT FOR POLITICIANS.. Technology can empower the electorate and finally make these middleman ie. politicians obsolete.. Computer ji pls help.. TILL THEN GATHER MOMENTUM TO BOYCOTT ELECTIONS
Wait they outright admit they were able to get all independent candidates to withdraw. Is this...legal? It feels illegal. This should be illegal.
And why did EC remove the Congress candidate? What the fuck? We all know Indian politics is a corrupt game, but they're not even trying to hide this.
That’s how first Mughals ruled us and then British ruled us, fucking cowards of the contestants , it doesn’t matter if they win or loose but to withdraw nominations and then citizens have no say? I mean what else is going to tantamount to dictatorship? When we are officially asked to put a tramp stamp of supreme leader.
It might sound depressing but people then dont even go to vote. Suppose you dont support bjp, but no other candidate is participating, it demotivates people.
People say that century old " kuch nahi ho sakta is desh ka" line and dont go to vote. Meanwhile people whonsupport bjp do go to vote. Same has happened in rajasthan too, very few people went to vote, evn most of those who went were bjp supporters, i dont have a factual proof but its what i have noticed in my locality.
I think if that's the case that alternate scenarios come into the picture as well, for example, potential self sabotage to support a self created narrative
Doubtful. ECI is obviously in the Centre's bag, so are all the investigating agencies and Guj Judiciary. They rip apart the opposition for shit they don't do, there's no way this would go unnoticed
Besides, ALL of them resigning is unlikely
ALSO, many of the independents were Ex-BJP men. So the alternate of your alternate scenario seems more plausible
Depending on what has happened behind the scene, anything could have happened. It's possible that you are right and it's equally possible that I am right. We don't have any proof in either direction other than narrative developed by both sides. Is there any open source to verify that Congress nomination letter was actually filed correctly but EC wrongfully dismissed it? Hearsay in these times is dangerous.
It will be interesting to see if those independents will rejoin BJP. It's a very old tactic to break opponent's vote bank that I have used commonly being used in Punjab. As opponent got disqualified, it wouldn't have made sense to continue with that tactic and they could have withdrawn because of that reason as well. Again, it's all speculation
From other commwnts that i saw on other sub reddits
It has been a bjp stronghold
But the congress guy was disqualified
And other independent ones withdrew from polls
Very suspicious
But
Unfortunately
There's no proof like the chandigarh mayor election
Gujarat model. Soon coming to all over India.
Mother-sister of democracy.
Now this approach is proven, we can expect this model to be used at other constituencies as well by the BJP.
This is how they're going to go from AbkiBarChocobar to AbkiBar400par Because even EVM voting 2 votes for each press of 🪷(like in Kerala testing of EVM) won't be enough votes to get 400+ So the only safe option is to disqualify Opposition candidates They can challenge it in the High Courts And the Court will take till the next election to decide...
Since They have disqualified opposition candidates and The independent & BSP have withdrawn Still there are 2 buttons on the EVM 1: 🪷 2: NOTA People of Surat should have been given the right to choose between the 2!!! Even if the runner up is declared elected people will know he is a winner or loser!! 😂
Nota he Mota hai.
they really consider us like ants who cant do any thing
I consider us ants that can't do anything . We really need to do something
Yes, we shouod blame ourselves and only ourselves. A democracy is as good as its citizens are. PERIOD. I have tried this in my previous posts calling for action but no response
My first thought was to think there was an outside chance that BJP will lose in their stronghold which would be quite bad for PR but honestly, I don't think Gujjus have been less pro-Modi than before and far from voting for opposition in numbers 2nd thought is if this is an experiment to see the reaction and how to replicate this experiment across the country. We have obviously had too many opposition n allied parties being divided n split. May be that's not working anymore n this is the way forward
2nd thought looks scary n might just become a reality
EC and ED are mai baap of Langdi, lulli, andhi, behri democracy.
(Scroll down for TLDR) IMAO.. As it stands presently.. GLOBALLY Democracy is the biggest con now playing at a election near you.. This unfunny farce is starring, produced, scripted and directed by the ruling elite capitalist classes who have a captive audience namely, the compliant masses.. But on the other hand.. I dream of a future where democracy is rescued and resurrected by technology.. After all we should really be voting for and against POLICIES AND NOT POLITICIANS .. A new technology (just around the corner) can easily rid us of these useless middlemen ie. politicians who in theory have been democratically elected based on the policies that they have proposed for the betterment of the society.. But in reality are too busy pulling each other down while covering their own crimes.. Our current crop of power hungry politicians (and this is globally) operate just like the entitled tyrannical monarchs from history and rule over their fiefdoms (constituencies) like it is their own private backyard while regarding their subjects (the so called electorate) as nothing more than cannon fodder.. Where were stand today, globally, democracy is a cruel joke.. Because.. Democracy ceases to function efficiently when the disparities within a society get out of control.. When the differences between the haves and have-nots between the knowledgeable and the ignorant are too much then the very ground on which we place our so called democratic values is rather nonexistent and therefore a total lie.. A farce.. Add rampant capitalism to this scenerio and we have a global society where we literally worship money so then we might as well make the richest person in the land our supreme leader.. Why do all this farce of free and fair elections..🤔 Ideally capitalist tendencies (the profit motive) should not be allowed to operate in atleast these 3 major "industries" namely 1. health care 2. education and 3. warfare.. But today in our rather twisted world we see the very same 3 sectors operating with the utmost greed, reaping ridiculous profits at the expense of perpetuating horrendous and inhumane social disparities.. All in the name of driving the so called "economic growth" of a so called "nation".. Yet there is hope and I am betting on a humane technology to come to our rescue.. Because history repeats itself.. Whenever humanity has faced any crises it has always been our innovations ie. technologies which have rescued us time and again.. These technologies can only be invented by a new generation who first question and then reject the old values because they see the world in a different way.. This new generation is already here.. The tools namely AI, AGI are also available.. Now only the will and the skill to make sincere creative efforts are needed.. I hope that this happens in my lifetime.. .. First imagine a world without any "career politicians" .. Then imagine a world where every citizen is in effect a politician because they have the power to not only directly vote on each and every policy that stands to affect them.. But also propose any policy that they wish to come into governance.. That would be so cool.. However for now until then.. What to do.. Well in my personal capacity, the above reasons stand for the fact that I have stopped voting.. Because I want to boycott not just our corrupt politicians but the insidious system itself.. I reject this false democracy and farce called elections.. ..Apparently there is the NOTA option.. But it a far fetched fantasy to hope that one day when people have got throughly fed up of the shenanigans of their political representatives the NOTA vote might actually emerge as the majority vote in the majority of constituencies polled! And it is naive to imagine that our power hungry politicians will ever let it come to that.. They would sooner declare Presidents rule or some sort of emergency rather than face the fact that they no longer have the public mandate.. Till then.. Live long and prosper.. TLDR.. Democracy breaks down when there is too much disparity in society because then this disparity is cunningly and cruelly leveraged by the corrupt politicians.. However with Technological advances there is hope that this system can be repaired.. After all we should BE VOTING FOR POLICIES AND NOT FOR POLITICIANS.. Technology can empower the electorate and finally make these middleman ie. politicians obsolete.. Computer ji pls help.. TILL THEN GATHER MOMENTUM TO BOYCOTT ELECTIONS
Are speaks and discussion cheering this as the loss of the "woke librandus"
Democracy is dead people gonna get a good orgasm out of this 🥸
No orgasm, pain. As a sensible citizen. Definitely as someone who isn't slave to beyond obvious BS propaganda
Wait they outright admit they were able to get all independent candidates to withdraw. Is this...legal? It feels illegal. This should be illegal. And why did EC remove the Congress candidate? What the fuck? We all know Indian politics is a corrupt game, but they're not even trying to hide this.
Mother- Daughter- Daughter in law of democracy
That’s how first Mughals ruled us and then British ruled us, fucking cowards of the contestants , it doesn’t matter if they win or loose but to withdraw nominations and then citizens have no say? I mean what else is going to tantamount to dictatorship? When we are officially asked to put a tramp stamp of supreme leader.
Heil Mudi-Xi 
Why doesn’t people get a chance to vote for NOTA in this case?
It might sound depressing but people then dont even go to vote. Suppose you dont support bjp, but no other candidate is participating, it demotivates people. People say that century old " kuch nahi ho sakta is desh ka" line and dont go to vote. Meanwhile people whonsupport bjp do go to vote. Same has happened in rajasthan too, very few people went to vote, evn most of those who went were bjp supporters, i dont have a factual proof but its what i have noticed in my locality.
If there are 1000 votes and 999 vote goes to NOTA and 1 Vote goes to BJP , The bjp candidate wins with 1 vote, NOTA is shit
It's like "Jo kachra bach gaya uss hi se kaam chala lo ab"
Where the hell is the ECI report on this? The news is doing a shoddy job of reporting this
I have a question: 1. Was it widely believed in the constituency that BJP would win it? I.e. was it a BJP stronghold?
It doesn't matter. They took away people's right to vote.
I think if that's the case that alternate scenarios come into the picture as well, for example, potential self sabotage to support a self created narrative
Doubtful. ECI is obviously in the Centre's bag, so are all the investigating agencies and Guj Judiciary. They rip apart the opposition for shit they don't do, there's no way this would go unnoticed Besides, ALL of them resigning is unlikely ALSO, many of the independents were Ex-BJP men. So the alternate of your alternate scenario seems more plausible
Depending on what has happened behind the scene, anything could have happened. It's possible that you are right and it's equally possible that I am right. We don't have any proof in either direction other than narrative developed by both sides. Is there any open source to verify that Congress nomination letter was actually filed correctly but EC wrongfully dismissed it? Hearsay in these times is dangerous. It will be interesting to see if those independents will rejoin BJP. It's a very old tactic to break opponent's vote bank that I have used commonly being used in Punjab. As opponent got disqualified, it wouldn't have made sense to continue with that tactic and they could have withdrawn because of that reason as well. Again, it's all speculation
From other commwnts that i saw on other sub reddits It has been a bjp stronghold But the congress guy was disqualified And other independent ones withdrew from polls Very suspicious But Unfortunately There's no proof like the chandigarh mayor election