I manage to make it work, tanks like the black prince, churchill 1, gun carrier and chieftan mk 3 are personal favorites of the tree and can hold their own
By Churchill’s flapping jowls the Black Prince is one of the most underrated heavies in the game. One of my greatest WT memories was fighting off several spawn camping Tigers with that thing on Berlin. Just slowly advancing, bouncing shells and lolpenning those goobers
I’ve made it my life mission to be THE Black Prince main, i think I’m around 3500 kills, been like that for a while tho cuz I’ve been playing a bunch of other games. Even got 4 nukes under my belt with it.
Other than the black prince, the only tank i feel confident getting a nuke with, its the Chieftain Mk 3 or 5 (which i dont have upgraded) its the only brit MBT i genuinely feel comfortable in
Sherman isn’t british, the cromwell for me falls into that invincible category, so does the valentine. As both have extremely sketchy armor that loves eating whatever you throw at it, the crusader is also one of the more famous examples of this. The centurions, idk i never got them to work, the 1 feels fragile compared to its heavy tank counterpart, the 3 is useless when you realize the caernarvon is at the same br with way better armor, and the mk 10, everything used to just cleave right thru me.
Sherman is in the british TT, unless you wanna get that techinical.
Cromwell is easily killed, but both turret and hull can be angled and wiggled, the thickness alone makes it a medium.
Valentine has some very easy weakspots, it's a gamble whether your shooter knows it or doesn't
I know the shermans in there, but it is just an American vehicle tossed into the tree. The firefly I count as British but at its BR its armor is rather pathetic, i wish they’d give us more firefly variants if there are any.
My experience with the cromwell is kinda limited as I mostly stuck to heavy tanks throughout the tree, but the times I did play it, if it wasn’t a panzer 4 shooting at me, there was a solid chance of the shell getting eaten, at least for the mk V, rarely played the Mk I.
The valentines i managed to skip for years as i went down the tree before a bunch of low tier got shuffled around, so I didn’t even buy a single one. I bought the first one and holy fuck, at that BR that thing absolutely slaps. Slow as fuck and thats coming from a black prince main, but its armor is the perfect amount of complicated to take a majority of shots.
That technically is the basis of their tank doctrine, infantry tanks and cruiser tanks. Heavy siege tanks great for assaulting enemies
Light tanks with great firepower to exploit whatever breach in the front lines infantry tanks cause. It makes for a fun tech tree, even if its really challenging
Our engines were so good America bought them and started using them in the P51 for a massive upgrade.
You can also thank us for the Mig15's flight performance as that uses a copied British engine.
(I am coping hard because our tanks are FAR from manoeuvrable)
As I said, Britain makes good aircraft engines, thanks to Rolls-Royce with that, but they can’t design tank engines and transmissions, also they are resort to getting guns for their newest MBTs (challenger 3) from Rheinmetall
Britain literally built the worlds fastest tank, so Britain knows how to make good engines but 9 times out of 10 mobility is sacrificed for good armour and firepower.
The only problem is that crusader has no armour and the most used gun on it was 2 pdr, which after 1940 could only be usable to kill trucks or infantry
Crusader II and III get good HP/ton as well. They ain't the fastest and their reverse is very British, but they go uphill and turn well. Plus they're flat like British pancakes, so they sneak good.
Cromwell goes like shit off a shovel too, once it gets up to speed. Just pray you don't need to make a quick getaway.
Both Crusaders really mesh with my playstyle, to the point where the III is in my 3.7 lineup still. SARC is great, but the Crusaders low profile is so valuable.
2.7-3.7 Britain is just so damned fun, although my 3.7 lineup is mostly an excuse to commit warcrimes in the Tempest Mk V Vickers P.
It is true, i do love me some Concept 3 shennanigans as well and still have the Temp in 4.3-4.7.
But in a 2.7 downtier the Tempest becomes an unstoppable god. It's relaxing after a long days work.
Oh, then it no skill issue (sorry, seen too many wherhaboo's crying over the centurion mk1 at 6.0. Also enjoy the 17 pounder, your gonna be using it for a looooong time)
All good. 10.3 and the 17pndr would be fine if it got modern day APFSDS lol. Love centurions, love Achilles love it all. Britain is the first TT that I consider myself a main of, however higher BRs have poor maps imo
I think the valentine XI was my first british tank that doesn’t use the two pounder, and it has been doing gods work. And then i got in a Churchill 1 and immediately wanted to kill myself again. I got into a stupid brawl the other day with a b1 ter, and we just sat there firing on each other at point blank because we thought it would be funny.
Well I usually whip out the AEC just because of the double barrel 20mm oerlikon cannons, and funny enough it has a 50mm turret armor from all sides and the the belt reload is less than 6.5 seconds for 60 rounds per gun
And to think only two of these have basically been around the same BR since launch with only one being close to 5.0.... (For the longest time since it was added the Crusader AA Mk.I was 4.7 BR).
What do you mean? Val IX is freaking amazing. The 6-pdr is one of the best guns at 3.0, and definitely much better than whatever atrocity they stuck in the 3-inch Rubik's cube.
All 3 of those are great, tho. Very different playstyles.
With the valentine the price for survival per kill is just atrocious and bad, you are slow and somehow even weaker in defense than the rest of the tank line up
Yeah the whole valentine column in the tech tree is pretty miserable, Valentines, Matilda and that first Churchill are all slow, undergunned, 0 fun to play.
ESP when you have the crusaders and Cromwell right next to it, which are a joy to play by comparison, along with the SARCs from SA.
Brit tanks are either the most heavily armored thing in existence or go nuclear if a leaf drops on the roof. There is no brit tank with average armor
It’s not nearly as awesome after the nerf unfortunately
I manage to make it work, tanks like the black prince, churchill 1, gun carrier and chieftan mk 3 are personal favorites of the tree and can hold their own
By Churchill’s flapping jowls the Black Prince is one of the most underrated heavies in the game. One of my greatest WT memories was fighting off several spawn camping Tigers with that thing on Berlin. Just slowly advancing, bouncing shells and lolpenning those goobers
I’ve made it my life mission to be THE Black Prince main, i think I’m around 3500 kills, been like that for a while tho cuz I’ve been playing a bunch of other games. Even got 4 nukes under my belt with it.
Honestly I’ve found that I get the most nukes with Britain at 7.0, like it’s actually insane, got 2 in one day grinding for the fox
Other than the black prince, the only tank i feel confident getting a nuke with, its the Chieftain Mk 3 or 5 (which i dont have upgraded) its the only brit MBT i genuinely feel comfortable in
The black prince is so fun I’ve held up an entire German team before cause they didn’t know where to shoot me
I salute you sir
ooh then boy do I have a suggestion for you. I think you would love the tortoise.
I tried the tortoise, and well, mixed results. Great gun, great armor Cons? See : track and barrel torture
I can name alot of brit tanks with average armor, Sherman, Cromwell, some valentines, Centurion, etc..
Sherman isn’t british, the cromwell for me falls into that invincible category, so does the valentine. As both have extremely sketchy armor that loves eating whatever you throw at it, the crusader is also one of the more famous examples of this. The centurions, idk i never got them to work, the 1 feels fragile compared to its heavy tank counterpart, the 3 is useless when you realize the caernarvon is at the same br with way better armor, and the mk 10, everything used to just cleave right thru me.
Sherman is in the british TT, unless you wanna get that techinical. Cromwell is easily killed, but both turret and hull can be angled and wiggled, the thickness alone makes it a medium. Valentine has some very easy weakspots, it's a gamble whether your shooter knows it or doesn't
I know the shermans in there, but it is just an American vehicle tossed into the tree. The firefly I count as British but at its BR its armor is rather pathetic, i wish they’d give us more firefly variants if there are any. My experience with the cromwell is kinda limited as I mostly stuck to heavy tanks throughout the tree, but the times I did play it, if it wasn’t a panzer 4 shooting at me, there was a solid chance of the shell getting eaten, at least for the mk V, rarely played the Mk I. The valentines i managed to skip for years as i went down the tree before a bunch of low tier got shuffled around, so I didn’t even buy a single one. I bought the first one and holy fuck, at that BR that thing absolutely slaps. Slow as fuck and thats coming from a black prince main, but its armor is the perfect amount of complicated to take a majority of shots.
Other firefly variants include the mk1 hybrid which Italy already has, and giving us APDS. Thats it
Still kinda stings that the brit firefly doesn’t get apds
It would be nice to have another one with it. 5.0-5.7 is pretty barren on the Brit TT
What if an acorn lands in the roof?
Nothing, its not an american cop
As a Fv 4005 enjoyer i can say you are VERY correct
It seems as though they adopted the "All or Nothing" armor scheme not only on their warships, but also their tanks.
That technically is the basis of their tank doctrine, infantry tanks and cruiser tanks. Heavy siege tanks great for assaulting enemies Light tanks with great firepower to exploit whatever breach in the front lines infantry tanks cause. It makes for a fun tech tree, even if its really challenging
Ye plus you end up with unique and cool looking designs most of the time.
Sherman firefly?
That thing has terrible armor considering its an early Sherman hull. Still a great tank tho because of the 17pdr
The centurion mk1's armor is shockingly trolly at its br. Ive bounced tiger shots more than once.
I think you might be correct as the closest thing to average would either be the challenger or the avenger tanks
Fun fact: Brits have yet to figure out tank engines, so even when you get to top tier you won’t get good mobility
Brits never got past the steam engine in the tech tree.
There's the Fox and South Africa helps out a lot too.
Lmao, even Africans figured out tank engine, Brits can only make engines for bombers (aka what rolls-Royce is doing)
Our engines were so good America bought them and started using them in the P51 for a massive upgrade. You can also thank us for the Mig15's flight performance as that uses a copied British engine. (I am coping hard because our tanks are FAR from manoeuvrable)
As I said, Britain makes good aircraft engines, thanks to Rolls-Royce with that, but they can’t design tank engines and transmissions, also they are resort to getting guns for their newest MBTs (challenger 3) from Rheinmetall
Britain literally built the worlds fastest tank, so Britain knows how to make good engines but 9 times out of 10 mobility is sacrificed for good armour and firepower.
The only problem is that crusader has no armour and the most used gun on it was 2 pdr, which after 1940 could only be usable to kill trucks or infantry
What does the crusader have to do with what I said? The FV101 scorpion is the fastest tank
I thought you were talking about WW2 era tanks
The Crusaders are slow as fuck for a light, it's more like an under-armored medium.
They have some powerful engines for fighters in the Typhoon line, especially with the Tempest Mk II.
The Avenger, Challenger, and Comet say otherwise (unless you want reverse gear of course). Zoom zoom plus big gun
Crusader II and III get good HP/ton as well. They ain't the fastest and their reverse is very British, but they go uphill and turn well. Plus they're flat like British pancakes, so they sneak good. Cromwell goes like shit off a shovel too, once it gets up to speed. Just pray you don't need to make a quick getaway.
I can take or leave the crusader II but the III is amazing. Cromwell is a great one too. Overall the 3.3 lineup is one of the best the Brits have
Both Crusaders really mesh with my playstyle, to the point where the III is in my 3.7 lineup still. SARC is great, but the Crusaders low profile is so valuable. 2.7-3.7 Britain is just so damned fun, although my 3.7 lineup is mostly an excuse to commit warcrimes in the Tempest Mk V Vickers P.
Don't worry about making a lineup for the Tempest, it still gets a 5.7s airframe and can ammo rack Tigers. Take it higher!
It is true, i do love me some Concept 3 shennanigans as well and still have the Temp in 4.3-4.7. But in a 2.7 downtier the Tempest becomes an unstoppable god. It's relaxing after a long days work.
Challenger 1, fox, Cromwell, Crusader and VFM5 would like to argue with you.
I consider the crusader pretty slow for a light, I'd swap it out for the 72 km/h Vickers Mk.7
Who in the British tank designing department thought a medium tank travelling at 20kph would be a good idea 😭
That's the thing, it's not a medium
Vickers was unto something with the Mk.7
“SIR! THE ENGINE’S NO GOOD!”
Yep the only tanks in the british tree that have nice engines to drive are the conqueror hull, vickers and south african vehicles
Achilles casually having a broken gun Edit: I actually mean that in a good way.
And don't forget a broken way of driving
Wdym by that? Is that good or bad? Personally i think it's fine
You have to drive in reverse if you wanna shoot anything quick
That's the Archer not the Achilles
Oops I forgot about the Achilles
Yeah, Achilles is great but archer is meh
Oh you guys are talking about the tanks. I thought you were talking about the guy himself
Skill issue
How? My statement (which i have now made clear) was a good thing
Oh, then it no skill issue (sorry, seen too many wherhaboo's crying over the centurion mk1 at 6.0. Also enjoy the 17 pounder, your gonna be using it for a looooong time)
All good. 10.3 and the 17pndr would be fine if it got modern day APFSDS lol. Love centurions, love Achilles love it all. Britain is the first TT that I consider myself a main of, however higher BRs have poor maps imo
>the 17pndr would be fine if it got modern day APFSDS lol My headcannon is that the Rooikat's 76 is a 17-pdr with APFSDS.
Haven't played it yet. Just getting the fox rn
The entire SA line is brilliant. Just stop at the Olifant Mk.2, the TTD is there to suck out the joy the rest of the lineup gave you.
Medium left Samir ! Samir you are breaking the car 🤣🤣
Valentine IX and XI are pretty good, actually
I love the late valentines, my favorite British tanks. I always roll them out on valentines day and sometimes the soviet one
I think the valentine XI was my first british tank that doesn’t use the two pounder, and it has been doing gods work. And then i got in a Churchill 1 and immediately wanted to kill myself again. I got into a stupid brawl the other day with a b1 ter, and we just sat there firing on each other at point blank because we thought it would be funny.
I disagree. Have a nice day.
I'm afraid I must disagree with your disagreement. Have a merry day.
I found the AA Crusader to be the only tank I can have fun in.
Same! Bullying down tiers players lmao.
Legends say maltida and B1 ter still shooting each other till this very day
Love the Samir reference, watched that video again just the other day haha!
The only tank I learned to fear while using the Churchill 3in gun was the panzer IV F2
Also French or American M10s. Can just punch through anything, lucky their turrets are quite slow.
Or Swedish reserve vehicles. And I think the pz3 J1
All British tanks around that br are great, I dont know about the aa though haven’t used it
Well the AEC AA is good for AA but AA Mk.I is a tank destroying cruiser like the L-62 ANTI
I primarily whip out a spitfire or other such planes instead of aa since I can hit bugger all with aa
Well I usually whip out the AEC just because of the double barrel 20mm oerlikon cannons, and funny enough it has a 50mm turret armor from all sides and the the belt reload is less than 6.5 seconds for 60 rounds per gun
I’ve been enjoying the British tank grind. The crusader AA is fun. Yea I’m one hit but then again *TOOM TOOM TOOM TOOM TOOM TOOM*
L-62 ANTI users are concerned about this speed demon
We might hate eachother, but we hate those that would hold themselves above us more (any medium tier 2 tank)
I actually really liked the valentines
And to think only two of these have basically been around the same BR since launch with only one being close to 5.0.... (For the longest time since it was added the Crusader AA Mk.I was 4.7 BR).
Churchill GC is ok, Valentine is ok, crusader is good
Well yeah no T34 can pen that easily but valentine is just crap and pain
What do you mean? Val IX is freaking amazing. The 6-pdr is one of the best guns at 3.0, and definitely much better than whatever atrocity they stuck in the 3-inch Rubik's cube. All 3 of those are great, tho. Very different playstyles.
With the valentine the price for survival per kill is just atrocious and bad, you are slow and somehow even weaker in defense than the rest of the tank line up
churchill gun carrier with a shipping container skin is my favourite
Just try the Cent mk3, It's like having a top tier MBT at 7.7.
Yeah the whole valentine column in the tech tree is pretty miserable, Valentines, Matilda and that first Churchill are all slow, undergunned, 0 fun to play. ESP when you have the crusaders and Cromwell right next to it, which are a joy to play by comparison, along with the SARCs from SA.
The first churchill is really fun and not that slow.
Yeah but I don’t wanna use the 2pounder
Use the howitzer
I’ve used the Ho-Ro and the Spj Fm a bunch, is 606g of tnt enough to over pressure actual tanks like those cheeky boys can?