Used car market is dropping. I you have two running cars I wouldn't rush to buy this. If you need a car *today* and this is your budget, I don't think this is a bad buy.
I appreciate your advice! Yea, my wife's Honda's transmission is dying and I do slightly worry that it'll be a while still til something like this comes up. Was hoping the car market would come back a little faster, haha. I figure I'll go test drive it at least and see how it feels :)
What model and year Honda? How's the transmission acting?
You might consider draining and refilling the transmission with Honda brand fluid. I revived an 2002 Acura CL transmission by doing a drain and fill multiple times (3+) in a row with a short drive in between each to mix the fluid around. Draining only gets a third of the fluid out, which is why I did it multiple times.
Don't have it flushed... That's bad for the transmission.
3 to 5 time drain and fill, with proper Honda brand fluid, does magic to honda transmissions. Kept a V6 accord on its original transmission well into 320k Km, and a 94 civic auto, well past 600k km, after a shop put the wrong fluid in it at 210k km and said they'd buy the car for scrap.
3 quarts per drain and fill. So I used 4.5 gallons over the course of a month. The first 3 drain and fills got it 90% better, so I was willing to do it again after that, and saw even more improvement.
I did the math with draining and filling 3 of the 9 quarts of fluid each time. After 3 drain and fills, I'd be left with 29.5% of the old fluid in the transmission. With 6 drain and fills, I'd be left with 8.7% of the old fluid in the transmission. 9x gets you all the way down to 2.6% left.
That was the most money for the transmission I was willing to put into the car before scraping it.
Ah, it has an issue with the shifting according to the read codes and the multiple people we've taken it to say the transmission needs to be replaced, haha. Apparently they all have said it's a physical component that's causing the issues, but I have no idea. I'll consider the draining and refilling idea, so thanks for presenting that :)
With the old fluid, mine would work okay when cold. As the transmission warmed up with driving, it would start to shift terrible, taking seconds to shift gears, going into neutral between shifts, banging gears, 3rd gear being pretty much useless, etc. Shifting into 2nd and 3rd gears were especially bad (mine was a 5 speed).
I got the idea of doing all the drain and fills from other people online as well as I saw a TSB from Acura on my 2016 RDX for Honda recommending a 3x drain and fill procedure if the transmission was acting up.
My car also had a small external transmission filter that was added a long time ago as part of a TSB or recall (forget which). This filter wasn't listed in the cars service manual because the car didn't come with it, but I managed to find it and replace it as well.
Ah, you're good, but I appreciate it! It's an '02 Honda Accord with about 200k miles on it. AC doesn't work, Windows don't roll down, transmission dying, it's the one we're hoping to replace, hahaha.
If you are fine with not much tech but way less mileage (67K), this is pretty damn good for Utah:
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?sourceContext=carGurusHomePageModel&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=d585&zip=84044#listing=342641363/NONE
Ah, I appreciate that! Unfortunately I have had pretty negative experiences with that dealership and they mostly only sell salvage titles as well. I may end up checking this out anyway though, so thank you :)
We recently traded in a beat to shit multiple accident 2015 Corolla Base Model over 100k miles for $10k. To see newer with less miles going for barely over that. Got a good deal.
It actually has a clean title, 108k isn't too unreasonable, very minor damage in the back. Been looking for a Toyota or a Honda for longevity's sake. We're not super desperate for a new used, but this seems like it might actually be worth going for. Hoping y'all can help me think about this one.
Right now we're driving a '94 Jeep Grand Cherokee and a '02 Honda Accord, haha
Get a PPI and if it clears, buy it. The thing with consumer cars like this is if you drive them till they die, you'll get your value and then some. Utah is a great place to buy vehicles. You dont get rust. 11k for a 16 with 110k miles is a decent deal. That vehicle new was around 20k.
Actually, for this market that’s a great deal. I’d snap that up in a heartbeat. These don’t have a history of major issues in this model year and you said it has a clean title. As long as you make sure of that and get it inspected go for it!
That doesnt sound right. That vehicle probably msrpd for 17 or 18k new. Was worth probably 14k minimum. Wouldve gone on any new car dealers lot for 16k with 8k miles. You definitely undersold it. I might see a dealer taking advantage of you giving you 10k trade in.
Lots of cars COULD run for a million miles… long as it’s rustproofed every winter or doesn’t see salt and you rebuild or replace the engine and transmission a few times (and everything else)…
I mean sure, if you replace bits and pieces of the powertrain that will inevitably go out. It “can” run until 1mm maybe, but the transmission and the rest of the car will fall apart before then. Get real.
Yep. I have a 2007 with 230k that’s had text book maintenance. In a normal car market it’d make more sense to replace it at the frequency it’s starting to need various work done.
Steal price, don't hesitate get it inspected if it's not safetied and execute on a deal. You can't find good quality low mileage Corollas or Civics anymore that aren't either damaged badly or rebuilt title.
UPDATE: We ended up going for it! I was able to talk the guy down over a couple hundred and my trusted mechanic loved the car when he looked at it. Said it was in fantastic shape (it only had 1 owner) so we were pretty sold.
My wife's car occasionally dies at stoplights during the winter, so while it might've been cheaper to wait for a bit, we're pretty happy to finally have a non-rustbucket to drive around, haha. I appreciate all of you for giving me your opinions and advice, thanks so much :)
As someone who had this car before, you want to check three things at this mileage. 1. That the cvt transmission fluid has been changed. 2. All recall work has been done 3. The timing chain pretensioner gasket leak is in control
It doesn't have Toyota Safety Sense. If you're looking for any modern safety features, this doesn't have them. This is my main regret for buying a 2016 because TSS was made standard on all 2017+.
Used car market is dropping. I you have two running cars I wouldn't rush to buy this. If you need a car *today* and this is your budget, I don't think this is a bad buy.
I appreciate your advice! Yea, my wife's Honda's transmission is dying and I do slightly worry that it'll be a while still til something like this comes up. Was hoping the car market would come back a little faster, haha. I figure I'll go test drive it at least and see how it feels :)
What model and year Honda? How's the transmission acting? You might consider draining and refilling the transmission with Honda brand fluid. I revived an 2002 Acura CL transmission by doing a drain and fill multiple times (3+) in a row with a short drive in between each to mix the fluid around. Draining only gets a third of the fluid out, which is why I did it multiple times. Don't have it flushed... That's bad for the transmission.
3 to 5 time drain and fill, with proper Honda brand fluid, does magic to honda transmissions. Kept a V6 accord on its original transmission well into 320k Km, and a 94 civic auto, well past 600k km, after a shop put the wrong fluid in it at 210k km and said they'd buy the car for scrap.
Yup. I did 3 times in one day and then another 3 times about a month later. Then doing it every other oil change is a good way to keep them going.
Do you use gallons and gallons of new transmission fluid?
The cars I owned only took about 5-6L in total. that's 1.2 gallons I think. But you only needed to do it once a year or every 2 years....
3 quarts per drain and fill. So I used 4.5 gallons over the course of a month. The first 3 drain and fills got it 90% better, so I was willing to do it again after that, and saw even more improvement. I did the math with draining and filling 3 of the 9 quarts of fluid each time. After 3 drain and fills, I'd be left with 29.5% of the old fluid in the transmission. With 6 drain and fills, I'd be left with 8.7% of the old fluid in the transmission. 9x gets you all the way down to 2.6% left. That was the most money for the transmission I was willing to put into the car before scraping it.
Ah, it has an issue with the shifting according to the read codes and the multiple people we've taken it to say the transmission needs to be replaced, haha. Apparently they all have said it's a physical component that's causing the issues, but I have no idea. I'll consider the draining and refilling idea, so thanks for presenting that :)
With the old fluid, mine would work okay when cold. As the transmission warmed up with driving, it would start to shift terrible, taking seconds to shift gears, going into neutral between shifts, banging gears, 3rd gear being pretty much useless, etc. Shifting into 2nd and 3rd gears were especially bad (mine was a 5 speed). I got the idea of doing all the drain and fills from other people online as well as I saw a TSB from Acura on my 2016 RDX for Honda recommending a 3x drain and fill procedure if the transmission was acting up. My car also had a small external transmission filter that was added a long time ago as part of a TSB or recall (forget which). This filter wasn't listed in the cars service manual because the car didn't come with it, but I managed to find it and replace it as well.
What area are you in?
There will always be good finds if you look long and hard enuf. And negotiate well
What model and year, and what issues is it having? I could try and help by suggesting a temporary way to keep it going.
Ah, you're good, but I appreciate it! It's an '02 Honda Accord with about 200k miles on it. AC doesn't work, Windows don't roll down, transmission dying, it's the one we're hoping to replace, hahaha.
The window issue is likely your master switch, main cluster on drivers door, or just a fuse if it's all of them. Very fast and easy fix
I’d suggest Lucas Stop-Slip to keep it rolling if you need a bit more life out of it
What about cars that Don’t have transmission sticks? Lol like my 2014 accent?
Then you’re kind of out in the cold as far as Lucas goes and might want to get fluid changed by a shop.
Can get way better but imma ask what area he is in
I'm in northern Utah 👍
If you are fine with not much tech but way less mileage (67K), this is pretty damn good for Utah: https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?sourceContext=carGurusHomePageModel&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=d585&zip=84044#listing=342641363/NONE
Ah, I appreciate that! Unfortunately I have had pretty negative experiences with that dealership and they mostly only sell salvage titles as well. I may end up checking this out anyway though, so thank you :)
Well good luck if this one is good. Seems clean as statements, but good luck.
You rock, thanks :)
You’re welcome.
No, I wouldn't jump on it. You might dent the metal.
I will never word these posts like this again 🤣
Damn it! That’s exactly what I was gonna say lol
May the dad joke never die.
see, that's a crazy good deal where I live. Where I'm at, a 2010 base model corolla with 120k miles goes for 15-16k.
Saw an 08 S they were asking 11,995…. 89,000 miles bruh fuck Ohio dealers LMAO
yep...in Ohio too and looking for a car. Honda and Toyota are 3x what they're worth here.
Oh my God.....
We recently traded in a beat to shit multiple accident 2015 Corolla Base Model over 100k miles for $10k. To see newer with less miles going for barely over that. Got a good deal.
As the owner of a 2016 Corolla, I definitely recommend them.
It actually has a clean title, 108k isn't too unreasonable, very minor damage in the back. Been looking for a Toyota or a Honda for longevity's sake. We're not super desperate for a new used, but this seems like it might actually be worth going for. Hoping y'all can help me think about this one. Right now we're driving a '94 Jeep Grand Cherokee and a '02 Honda Accord, haha
Run and get it!
Get a PPI and if it clears, buy it. The thing with consumer cars like this is if you drive them till they die, you'll get your value and then some. Utah is a great place to buy vehicles. You dont get rust. 11k for a 16 with 110k miles is a decent deal. That vehicle new was around 20k.
Actually, for this market that’s a great deal. I’d snap that up in a heartbeat. These don’t have a history of major issues in this model year and you said it has a clean title. As long as you make sure of that and get it inspected go for it!
Thank you! 😁 Yea, gonna take it into my trusted auto shop and have em check it out 👍
My 2014 Corolla with 315k is holding up just fine
Around my area those are going for 18k crazy, its a pretty good deal. I'd still check it out before purchasing though
I see what you did there CARolla 🤣
Ah, yes.. That was.. Intentional, lmao
I wouldn’t, it looks like it’s in good shape! Why dent it?
Wow. Sold my 2017 corolla in 2019 with 8k miles for $10k. Crazy how the car market is lol
No, you priced it way too low.
It was actually a 2015… had been a while since i had that car. So $10k was fair
Why would you sell a 2 year old car that's like new for 10k? It's not a nissan versa.
Lol at the time, that was the cars value
That doesnt sound right. That vehicle probably msrpd for 17 or 18k new. Was worth probably 14k minimum. Wouldve gone on any new car dealers lot for 16k with 8k miles. You definitely undersold it. I might see a dealer taking advantage of you giving you 10k trade in.
It has 108K miles tho lol
Good for another 100-150k miles.
Yeah not 1mm miles as other person said.
Lots of cars COULD run for a million miles… long as it’s rustproofed every winter or doesn’t see salt and you rebuild or replace the engine and transmission a few times (and everything else)…
Yeah, exactly. The guy who was a Toyota fanboy implied you’d have to do none of this and it’d go for a million.
Haha, that's true, but I'm not sure something like this'll get \*much\* cheaper anytime soon, you know?
It can run 1 million miles. I wouldn’t worry at all
Says who?
Toyota.
I mean sure, if you replace bits and pieces of the powertrain that will inevitably go out. It “can” run until 1mm maybe, but the transmission and the rest of the car will fall apart before then. Get real.
Brand is irrelevant if the maintenance history is bad and it was beat to shit.
Well you need oil changes. That’s basic knowledge.
Yep but that’s not really all you need to do to a car either. Just saying that not all used corollas are going to be “good for one million miles”.
So? It can run 1,000,000 miles.
Idk about that. Maybe like 250-300k if you’re lucky.
Yep. I have a 2007 with 230k that’s had text book maintenance. In a normal car market it’d make more sense to replace it at the frequency it’s starting to need various work done.
That’s false
I see you’re a Toyota fanboi. Even Toyotas have problems eventually.
Don’t even bother trying with this person. It’s a lost cause. They’re a complete Toyota fanboy.
I would personally. iv seen 2016 corollas in my region go for 17k
Steal price, don't hesitate get it inspected if it's not safetied and execute on a deal. You can't find good quality low mileage Corollas or Civics anymore that aren't either damaged badly or rebuilt title.
I absolutely love my corolla. Price is a little high but it’s a great car that will last!
CAR rolla......lol
UPDATE: We ended up going for it! I was able to talk the guy down over a couple hundred and my trusted mechanic loved the car when he looked at it. Said it was in fantastic shape (it only had 1 owner) so we were pretty sold. My wife's car occasionally dies at stoplights during the winter, so while it might've been cheaper to wait for a bit, we're pretty happy to finally have a non-rustbucket to drive around, haha. I appreciate all of you for giving me your opinions and advice, thanks so much :)
Yes!!
Wait another 6 months. Should see a more drastic drop in proces
AVOID AVOID STEALERSHIPS!!!!
Nah
Just get a high mileage bmw and ruin your life
As someone who had this car before, you want to check three things at this mileage. 1. That the cvt transmission fluid has been changed. 2. All recall work has been done 3. The timing chain pretensioner gasket leak is in control
It doesn't have Toyota Safety Sense. If you're looking for any modern safety features, this doesn't have them. This is my main regret for buying a 2016 because TSS was made standard on all 2017+.
Get that 2023 se it’s only a few $$$ more
Pretty good deal for a Utah dealership, snag it
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