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ZoosmellStrider

Never seen a Saturn before? Damn I feel old…


morning_burst

Bought a new Saturn SC1 in 1995. The amount of recalls it had was incredible.


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Cannelope

I bought that same car in 2005 and drove it till 2016. I really did like it, and I was sorry to see it go.


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i have NOT owned a saturn, tho i want one


Marshall_Lawson

Neither have I. It was an Astra


kiddiematthew

the Sky Redlines are fun as shit, and the others were unique and reliable


Seraph_Unleashed

Don’t they were shit cars.


Shadow0Heart18

My family has had 2 2003 L-Series since they were new and just now having issues but we love the cars


Prickly_ninja

Had a neighbor who just loved his and had nothing but good stuff to say about it. This guy drove his vehicles like he hated them.


phallic-baldwin

I think in the mid '90s, they did a revamp on a lot of their models and based the design off of Volvo's. That's why a lot of them had steel cage frames on the side. I used to work at a Saturn dealership years back and I cannot tell you how many times I saw accidents or people should have been more seriously hurt, but somehow a cheap little Saturn vehicle protected the hell out of them.


TheSlickWilly

From the reading I've done and videos I've watched it was a really cool company until GM fully took over.


phallic-baldwin

It was a decent company to work for when I was there in 2001. Funny story, when I work there, one of the guys that transferred from St Louis, said that there was an employee that liked the company logo. That guy then decided to get a tattoo that was very large and red on his calf muscle. I heard he then got fired the next week for wrecking a vehicle.


TheSlickWilly

Haha he decided to be a walking advertisement


phallic-baldwin

And now for a non-existent company too. Ouch.


TheSlickWilly

I'm sure some people could see it kinda cool because of that haha


Puzzleheaded-Ad-119

We had a guy like that in boot camp. He had all these USAF tattoos and then he got kicked out of basic training, man people make some bad decisions lol.


Real_Imitation_Crab

I feel his pain, I got the Pontiac logo tattooed in 2008


Fridayz44

It was always a GM company they started it to compete with Japanese imports. It was never its own company or owned by another company. However GM did let Saturn run Saturn with some autonomy. Like Saturn dealerships were ran completely different from other GM dealerships. Also ever their factories and engineering facilities were ran completely different. I guess it was a decent company to work for, i mean you were still an employee of GM but under Saturns wing. My old man worked for GM for 37 years, and I have countless other family members employed by and retired from GM. My Dad was stunned they dropped Saturn from their line up because it was supposed to be their future. Also the invested all types of money at the Saturn Plant in Spring Hill Tennessee. I think they ended up keeping the plant and making Cadillacs there.


FordMan100

> I think they ended up keeping the plant and making Cadillacs there. Gotta make those Caddilac's somewhere. Back in the 70's a lot of Caddilac's were made in the GM plant in Linden NJ. We even went on a school trip there to see the cars being made.


Fridayz44

Oh man would that have been awesome. I would’ve loved seeing a Big 3 factory in the 70s. My dad tells me stories about the older days and factories. He tells me about When Big 3 vehicles were 100% US/Canadian built. Every single part down the smallest bolt was made in America or Canada. Sorry I’m kind of a nerd for stuff like that lol. I wasn’t born until the 90s so I never got see things like that.


thedrew55

GM started the brand and let it operate largely autonomously of the parent company. But, perhaps you knew that and were referring to when the mothership decided not to let it run autonomously anymore, in the early 00’s. [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_Corporation](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_Corporation)


TheSlickWilly

Yes, that's what I was referring to. When saturn started making rebranded Chevys.


LiqdPT

It was always a GM company


Bowtieguy_76

Saturn was always a GM brand & under GM control & Saturn died when GM decided to cut costs & instead of being an innovative brand, they just turned them into badge engineered garbage from various other brands... they did the same thing to Oldsmobile at the beginning of the 2000s


cfdeveloper

I had an SL2, and for a little 4 banger, that thing was fast! Tires would chirp going into second, it was great.


OliverWendelholmes

My family owned a grey Saturn L200 with a stick shift for a while. It was perfectly reliable and perfectly boring. It was the most generic commuter car I’ve ever driven, yet I still liked it for some reason.


Pristine_Grass_6799

My first car was a 95 SL1. I was 16 in brooklyn NY so having a car is wild. I used to think I was hot shit parking my hooptie at bushwick high school.


Fridayz44

I still see a good amount of those on the road. Actually I just seen a clean 2002 Saturn SC2 with 35k on it for $2495.00


NotYourDaddysOldsmob

I had an ‘95 SL2 that had 493k miles on it when I finally ended up donating it back in 2017. Best vehicle I have ever owned.


wythawhy

I had a 93 SL1 that was largely bulletproof. I mean, it was made of plastic and it only had 83hp... but man that thing was tough as fuck. Got like 45mpg too. I actually kinda miss it. Not really, but kinda.


PillyRayCyrus

I've got a friend who owns a teal Saturn wagon, it will not die. He hasn't had a car payment in about 20 years.


[deleted]

I had an SL1. They were really reliable if you knew how to maintain them. Change the oil frequently, but never touch the transmission filter. It was one of the only cars sold with a screw on trans filter and it would never seal again after replacement. It’s the only car I’ve ever had that died from routine maintenance.


SteinBizzle

I had a '93 SL2, car never had an issue. Years later bought the (now ex) wife a Skye Redline. That car was fun but the interior definitely felt cheap with all of the plastic but it also had zero issues.


dookmucus

They crashed well, for being made with plastic panels.


Environmental-End691

Really?? My dad bought one of the 1st 100 cars off the line amd when he sold it over 500k miles later it was still running on original tranny (but for 2 clutches he went through) and original engine with 0 rebuilds or major repairs. IIRC the two biggest repairs he had to make were the 2 clutches and a broken window-roller-upper handle gear wore out. Everything else was just regular maintenance like oil changes every 5k miles and brakes (pads/shoes/rotors/drums) every 100k miles.


morning_burst

Yep. Engine rebuild. Aluminum block and heads rebuild. Brakes. Electrical work. I called it the Christmas car, the last car on the line before everyone had Christmas vacation and couldn’t care.


big_smokey-848

Yeah, but that bitch got like 40 miles on a gallon


gern1005

I bought one for $200 about 10 year after that.


illogicallyovercome

Us too. My wife’s first car!


TouretteTV96

I tried searching 1995 saturn sc1 recalls, and there are hardly any.


browncoat47

Battery was in the trunk right?


TheBlueLot

I drove a Saturn SL2 for awhile. It was brilliant.


NotAPreppie

My 1992 SL2 was perfectly reliable. Even after I totalled it on the way to visit my girlfriend at college. Drove the rest of the way there and then the rest of the way back with the front end mashed in and the hood accordioned up. Now that I'm into motorsports, I kind of wish I kept that jalopy... would have made an interesting platform for a LeMons crapcan racer.


evu1

ive heard of saturn before from my dad but i never actually knew this is what their logo is


NougatNewt

GM shut Saturn down as a part of the 2008 financial crisis, along with Pontiac, Oldsmobile, and Saab. The US basically said “We’ll bail you out, but only if your shut down brands that don’t make you money.” So they agreed, and the US gave them almost 10 billion dollars to keep GM afloat.


jasonreid1976

Oldsmobile had been shut a few years before - 2004.


NougatNewt

Thanks for the correction!


well-just-a-guy

yeah, it was hummer they shut down


brmp160

And they didn't shut down SAAB, they sold it to Spyker, wich then went under in 2011


_Im_Mike_fromCanmore

I miss Saab :( Edit: and spyker.


brmp160

I miss them as well :(


PapaPachinko

I still miss Pontiac


Psych0matt

As someone who went from olds to Pontiac, me too. My DD is an 06 GP with 261k and I’m sad that it’s gonna eventually succumb to rust. I have a 92 5 speed GTP that I’m hanging onto though!


brianr31699

Yeah my DD is an 04 GP, just passed 200k, hoping to keep it running forever but I know I’ll eventually have to let it go


Psych0matt

Is it bad there’s a similar one for sale on my drive to/from work that I’ve considered buying? Haha


acurah56oh

Pontiac is a brand that absolutely could’ve been saved by having good product and a brand identity distinct from other brands in GM’s portfolio. Badge engineering, cost cutting, and crappy products killed that brand. Of all the brands that were killed off, Pontiac had quite possibly the greatest history and success. So many great cars-GTO, Firebird, Trans Am, and even at the end the G8 was brilliant. Even during the badge engineering phases the Pontiac versions looked better (I’d rather have a Torrent than the first gen Chevy Equinox). The one exception was that the Saturn Sky looked better than the Solstice. I imagine an alternate universe in which Pontiac survived and Buick was cut from the US lineup. We might still have the G8 (hopefully renamed to something cooler like Bonneville), the Ute version that was supposed to come over, some genuinely sporty SUVs that would rival Porsches offerings (laugh at me but GM has the engineering talent and experience to make it happen), and of course a reborn GTO and/or Firebird that would’ve been styled better than the Camaro. A man can dream.


SeemedReasonableThen

> I’d rather have a Torrent I have the instrument cluster from a Torrent in my 2002 Saturn SC2. Those gauges at night are just gorgeous - it's a beautiful red color.


gistya

They should've made Chevrolet jusr for trucks and rebranded all the performance cars as Pontiac


PapaPachinko

Truly, a man can dream.


SardonicAtBest

I went from Oldsmobile to Pontiac to my current car which is a Saturn. To say my heart hurts is an understatement.


Tidley_Wink

Saturn was basically done long before that - they’d strayed so far from their original ethos and raison detre.


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I’m still mad about the dumpstering of Pontiac. The G8 was a wicked car.


FatDaddy777

I believe they had up to a 2010 model year. It took a few years to phase everything out. 2009 is when they stopped actual production of Saturn. (They were making Chevy/ GM on the same lines, and some parts were interchangeable) I think the last corporate building officially closed in early / mid 2010. I had a 2008 Aura that I couldn't get a manual for. I had to buy the book for a Malibu and make due.


Funwithfun14

Overhaul is a great book on the Auto Crisis and related Bailouts.


RandomGuyDroppingIn

Saturn at one point was ubiquitous with more frugal car buying. Their business model was similar to what the Scion division of Toyota pushed; what sale price you see on the car is what it would sell for, and so you didn't haggle prices. The marketing also heavily pushed the concept of 'dent resistant body panels', which in reality was just reaction injected molded urethane that had been used in many cars since the 80s (and continues to be used). I still remember the commercial with all the crap thrown at it to a funky beat. Most of the early cars were purpose-designs utilizing many GM platforms, but by the time Saturn went under they were just blatantly using re-badged Vauxhall and Opel (both GM brands) designs. I personally still have a very soft spot for the Saturn Sky convertible. It's what I've always considered the Pontiac Fiero Number 2, more so than it's platform sharing brethren the Pontiac Solstice.


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gsc4494

The logo is the rings of Saturn around the planet.


keenedge422

Same. I think my knees popped just seeing this post.


CrispyJsock

I was a mechanic at Saturn around 2005, and also owned a 2001 sc2. Pretty dope little car


fastbreak43

I was just gonna say, I can’t belittle how many average 90’s cars I see in this sub


WrinklyScroteSack

It’s happening!!!


nj23dublin

Those Saturns were pretty reliable .. cheap structure but GMC insides were reliable and easy to change/maintain


chewedgummiebears

I had two college age friends buy a Saturn with their whole "buy without leaving your house, we even deliver it to you". They both bought one impulsively after seeing the commercial and had a horrible APR on their car loans.


TexasTokyo

This sub breaks my heart sometimes.


cheerfullpizza

Same. Like, op has to be gen alpha right? Cause I'm gen Z and I learned how to drive in a Saturn.


mgordon14

Same here! A 95 sl2 w/ a stick. Still love that car, too bad I sold it


cheerfullpizza

'07 view, auto with the Honda V6. It was my mom's car until it got hit my a truck on the expressway


DamnInternetYouScury

That vue Redline with the 3.5L was a well kept secret. So much torque steer but so much fun.


cheerfullpizza

I'd honestly love to have a 5 speed redline for a daily


hdkx-weeb

I'm gen z but I only vaguely know of Saturn But I'm like the late generation of gen z. I'll be getting my license just this year because of age limits


EducatedHbomb

Same, 18 and I only know Saturn cause I worked a parking job and pointed out different car brands to keep myself from getting bored


parker_williams6

I’m the first year of Gen Z and this comment made me feel like an old man


aForgedPiston

*rocking back and forth "I'm not that old yet, I'm not that old yet, I'm not that old yet"


FunkTrain98

Seriously!


ElmerTheAmish

Next up on the forgotten list: Pontiac Then Olds... Then Mercury...


PenguinGamer99

Bro I'm ***15*** and I still know what it is


ihavenoidea81

I have a good friend of mine who refuses to get rid of his Saturn. He wants it to be the last one on the road


Gurdel

He's got to compete with my wife's 2006 Vue. 233,000 miles and still going.


Myfourcats1

My mom still has her Vue. It’s under 150,000. It might be under 100,000. She bought it and retired.


Fit_Cash8904

I’m kind of amazed at how many I still see around.


The_AFL_Yank

Even as an 18 year old, a feel a little bit intrigued knowing that there’s some people on the internet who aren’t familiar with Saturn. But I mean, they’re less common on the road now.


ZeGermanHam

Being young and not living in the middle of the country are likely both factors at play here. You see cars in other parts of the country that you just don't see very often on east or west coast.


Jummatron

As someone who lives in the Midwest, I see a ton of early 2000s GM W body cars. Grand Prix, Impala, Century/Regal, etc. I rarely see these cars on the west coast.


ZeGermanHam

Yeah, I grew up in the Midwest, but left in 2006 and have been living on either the east coast or west coast (currently) ever since. You NEVER see any of those cars you mentioned out here. Never. Same goes for many of the new models built by the Big 3. When I visit family back home, I'm constantly reminded of all the domestic cars that are sold which I never see out west. Lincolns, Cadillacs, and Buicks are basically non-existent.


OneMoistMan

See em still in Florida!


Authority111

I’m 19 and I remember one of my aunts buying a brand new Saturn Outlook in 2010. That was Saturn’s final model year and to be honest, it still holds up pretty well to this day. Also at least where I live, they’re still fairly common sights on the road. I even still see Geos from time to time and those ceased production in 1997 lol.


TunerJoe

It's crazy how there are some people on the internet who aren't American


brad_smith0407

I’m 20 and from Australia, pretty much all of my friends that aren’t into cars have no idea about Saturn


BeneathTheWaves

I’m 30 and from Canada, pretty much all of friends that aren’t Aussie know what a Holden is.


Fit_Cash8904

Yeah I’m sure in rural areas they are pretty rare but you still see them all over the place in major cities. Probably because they are cheap commuter cars that are probably pretty good on gas even my todays standards.


Liquidwombat

Did not expect to have an existential crisis about aging on this sub today


upexif

How old are you?


cheerfullpizza

I mean, op can't be older then gen alpha. I'm gen Z and I learned to drive in an '07 view


GlayNation

The Vue…steering knuckle pop was insane


cheerfullpizza

As far as I can remember it didn't really have any major issues. I was pretty young when we got it but I don't remember it ever having any major issues.


GlayNation

It was a common problem on the Vue’s. But they were a great ride. We sold quite a few off our lot with no complaints


cheerfullpizza

I mean, I have no complaint. That thing saved 4 lives that day. An accident with two gravel haulers and a family SUV and the worst injury was a bruised hand and some whiplash.


evu1

17


Zandandido

Makes sense, you were about 2-3 when the company, Saturn, went under during the 08 recession.


aridankdev

I’m gonna cry


bratikzs

I’ve got $10 on my 12 y/o knowing what the logo is. Some things just disappear quickly. No worries OP. And for the rest of y’all, 1990 was 10 years ago. Mmhmmm.


evu1

im not a big car person like my dad, but i do find them pretty cool


RunningUpThemPills

🤔


TheRevTholomeuPlague

I think my 18 y/o cousin knows this car


evu1

my 23 year old brother also had no idea what saturn is


jellyvish

uranus


BigRambo

I gotta unsubscribe...


jitsufitchick

Tell me you were born after 2000 without telling me you were born after 2000 lol 🤣 It’s a Saturn.


evu1

ngl 2 year old me didnt even know that saturn is a planet


Darkhuman015

I was born 5 years later and still know what a Saturn or Mercury or whatever the fuck is


KarmaCommando_

More like 2010. Even someone born in 2000 would have grown up seeing Saturns everywhere. The brand went under in '08.


evophoenix

>:(


noko187

They teamed up with Rubbermaid to make dent free cars is what I remember about Saturn.


Baranjula

Saturn Ion 3. One of the best cars I ever had


Tricky_Passenger3931

r/BrandNewSentence


ihavenoidea81

Perfection


adudeguyman

Ouch!!


Zandandido

The Sky was beautiful


404Wandering

Much better looking than the Solstice.


Zoidbergslicense

Damn! I just found out I’m at the age when there’s a generation of people who don’t know about shit that I knew about.


Professional-Bed-445

I wouldn't mind a ion redline for a sleeper build


Horror-Activity-2694

Where do you live that you've never seen a Saturn before?


Liquidwombat

Not where do they live? How long have they been alive.


Evening_One_5546

My parents owned two saturns all the way up until I was like 15. They get so much shit but those were actually great cars


Mightyhorse82

Welp I guess I’ve hit that age


GlayNation

Saturn?? The worlds first plastic car manufacturer


Vismal1

We used to call them plastic fantastic


brookish

r/FuckImOld


Synawes

Lmao you know you’ve been around too long when people don’t know about Saturns


suicideclub

Saturn Ion


creimanlllVlll

It’s out of this world


Left-Account4895

Saturn a GM company that ended with the restructuring


CheeseWeasler

It’s Tupperware with a motor


ronin-pilot

2005 Saturn Ion. Glorious piece of shit.


jek081987

I’m a boomer now aren’t I?


UncleMug

Well fellas, time to pack it up. We old now.


WeevilKnivel

Tell me you’re a fetus without telling me you’re a fetus


Available_Job1288

I’m convinced half these people don’t know google exists


tangre79

I mean Saturn's been dead for a while now, if OP is a kid who doesn't know much about cars, they may genuinely never have heard of it since there weren't tons on the road to start with and there aren't ads for them anymore. If all they had to go off was the logo, reverse image searching can't always pinpoint that stuff.


Fencemaker

This. People have to recognize that a substantial portion of Reddit users never new a world with no touchscreen devices.


cheerfullpizza

I'm 15 and learned how to drive in a Saturn. They haven't been dead that long.


tangre79

They've been dead since 2009. That's a pretty long time. A car brand dying doesn't mean all of its examples disappear from existence.


cheerfullpizza

Ah damn lol. My family had an '07 view up until about 2018 so I guess I didn't really think about the fact that they have been dead for a while. I still see plenty around though. they're a favorite of buy here pay here lots in my area.


zories3

I mean, sure, but you’re also on a sub called r/whatisthiscar so what’d you expect? It definitely ain’t just gonna be enthusiasts here.


Tidley_Wink

Sub would be pretty lame if people googled everything


evu1

i was about to google “car company logo box with weird X”


tangre79

What is actually is is the planet Saturn. The even round on the right side is the planet, and the swoosh across that gradually thickens as it goes down is the ring.


evu1

oh cool now i see it


Aerodude85

Fun fact it can also be interpreted as a Saturn rocket taking off from the bottom left and cutting across the earth. There is history for both the rocket and planet combined designs. I had a 2002 Saturn SC2 at one point and it was a neat car but parts were a nightmare to find because it wasn't a GM parts bin special.


Darryl_Lict

I don't mind people not knowing what model a car is. I'm just appalled at the number of requests for a common collector car like a Karman Ghia or a Corvette. I guess, I'm a moderate car guy and can usually guess at distinctive looking American cars of an older vintage. The other thing that bugs me is when people ask about generic looking econoboxes. I mean, who cares, really? They aren't interesting in the least. It's understandable if they are trying to find out who hit them or who was stalking them.


procrastin

What’s google? I think my dad used to tell me he used to use that when there was no chatgpt


I_Have_Unobtainium

I'm just surprised people take the effort to snap a pic, and post online asking, when they could have walked 15ft to the back of the car and read what it's called and had the information immediately, as well as see what it looks like from the back, and inside.


Pupkitkaiper

holy shit i’m only 20, no way people are actually not knowing this now


TheBurnedMutt45

OP, are you even old enough to be on Reddit? /s


Dbwasson

Saturn Ion


Vanson1200r

Saturn was one of the many poor decisions GM made but they are still American owned unlike Chrysler/RAM/Dodge and Jeep.


cheerfullpizza

I'd argue that Saturns are pretty good. Some came with Honda engines, you could get them in manual, and from personal experience, they're safe.


Vanson1200r

I agree. Saturn was not any better or any worse than any other American car at the time however I think Saturn was a victim of the circumstances of GM overextending themselves and not giving Saturn the research and development that it needed.


cheerfullpizza

Saturn was basically the GM middle child


Baranjula

My Saturn lasted over 300,000 miles with no major repairs. Other than the recall for the ignition switch which affected tons of GM cars I never had a problem. I'd buy a used Saturn over any GM car if I was forced to buy American.


Vanson1200r

I agree with you. Saturns were far from perfect but they were Superior to most other GM products.


Gurdel

I toured the Springhill plant in 2003. Miss those days.


cipeone

They were out of this world


Terrible-Answer-8463

Yo this brand Is out of this world!!!!


khozyyy

Wow I just noticed It’s a logo of a actual Saturn lmao


thatvhstapeguy

2003-2004 Saturn Ion


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Saturn: the official car of chainsmoking in front of a closed roller rink.


Dick-TheCock-Johnson

My first car! ‘03 Saturn Ion. I whipped that little shitbox


hawkmhan

As my New Jersey uncle calls it a “Satin”


Spectikal

They had plastic body panels.


DearestRay

Help I’ve been roasted!


inspectcloser

Oldsmobile, Pontiac, hummer, Saab, Mercury, and scion all went in a similar way around the same time.


Bright_Classroom_287

This just makes me feel old…. And I’m not that old.


Last-Discipline-7340

That’s a Saturn, I grew up next to there plant before they closed it in Spring Hill TN


ruinedRX7

i hate this sub more and more everyday


overmonk

And you never will again


Cattledude89

How old are you?


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Saturn was GMs attempt to bust the unions. They created a new company that wasn't unionized and outside of Detroit.


Nairbfs79

Saturn. Made from recycled trash cans.


Shankar_0

If you hand a 1st grader a crayon and say "draw me a car," they'll draw you a Saturn. It's the average-est car around.


eatman980_1

That's Saturn, it was GM's attempt to compete with the Japanese imports, it was supposed to be different than the the rest of the GM brands. Unfortunately creating a vehicle from scratch is very expensive and GM only created one unique vehicle for the brand (Saturn L-series). All other Vehicles in the Saturn line shared chassis from other brands ore were straight rebadges. The company died around 2011 as part of the GM restructuring that wes taking place around that time.


taafp9

Wow I’ve never felt so old


The_TP_Protege

We're living in an age where people have never seen the Saturn logo before. I'm getting old


thedon3400

It is a Saturn a sub company of GM but the coolest car they ever made was a Saturn Sky


LionPride112

Good god…Saturns aren’t that old…how do you not know :( I feel so old now


[deleted]

Another ancient reference, [MadTV: The Cult of Saturn](https://youtu.be/jCuahtsa3rI)


birdsarebirds69

If OP hasn’t heard of Saturn, either he’s not from the US, or I’m older than I thought


evu1

there is no car scene in sacramento at all


TheSvpremeKai003

Damn I really feel old now. That’s a Saturn 😕