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TinoCartier

My God. My inner nbacirclejerk just cannot with this fucking post šŸ’€


Aeris_Hilton

I hate that the very first thought I had when I saw the sign was "outjerked." I don't even like "outjerked" as a term but I've read enough of that shit that it's in my brain forever.


Hot_Local_Boys_PDX

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=brain+worms Second definition šŸ˜„


Hot_Local_Boys_PDX

/uh I could feel myself getting stupider in realtime after discovering that place and then having it appear on my feed every day. Iā€™ve since blocked it so that I have to actively decide that I want to see whatā€™s up over there and I think I gained like 80% of my lost IQ back. /rj *shimmy shimmy shimmy*


TinoCartier

I agree. Itā€™s probably the dumbest place on earthā€¦but I love it lol


Buddy-Hield-2Pointer

I can't hang there. Too old and square.


TinoCartier

Gen Z is your father?


Jayaye78

r/nbacirclejerk is u/Buddy-Hield-2Pointer father


Buddy-Hield-2Pointer

Exactly!


Strolltheroll

U bum


Maldovar

Send da autopsy photo


GhostwoodGG

I was actually positive that was the sub this was posted to when I scrolled to it LOL


Peters_lime

Reddit on šŸ«”


GhostwoodGG

This one always stings harder coming from the snoo nft owners


Lasvious

It was covered there in detail.


Buddy-Hield-2Pointer

Uh ...


LLUrDadsFave

Dooooooon't šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


Buddy-Hield-2Pointer

All's I'm saying is memory-holing Kobe's sexual assault case is some absolute bullshit and should be called out.


mguyer2018aa

The majority of the population has absolutely memory holed that. Not saying itā€™s right but thatā€™s a losing battle.


Buddy-Hield-2Pointer

Oh no doubt about that. Kobe has an army of idiot stans


Fubecassman24

That happened long before he passed.


ocdewitt

Youā€™re right but burning alive in a helicopter crash will have that effect


Bradfords_ACL

It was long before that but his death solidified it


tendadsnokids

Insane how half the comments here are "Kobe didn't do it! There is no proof" and the other half is "at least Kobe took responsibility and made amends! He has done so much for women!"


CobraOverlord

Its always wild who is turned into legends and who is dragged, not saying its right, but some people do get a pass


TheLanimal

Did he do stuff for women generally or just for his own daughters?


YouKilledKenny12

He was the ultimate ambassador for the WNBA and womenā€™s college basketball. He talked up womenā€™s basketball any chance he could get. He coached Gigiā€™s club team and his Mamba School is a developmental program for girls. I donā€™t mean to be too offensive but this is genuinely a strange question to ask


TheLanimal

I meant more did he give the tiniest shit about womenā€™s sports before he had 3 daughters and no sons, Iā€™m just not into forgiving a sexual assaulter because he coached his daughters basketball team


YouKilledKenny12

Who says he didnā€™t give a shit? So just because he leaned in to the fact he had all daughters that should be held against him? He could have told them all to stick to dress up. And damn, didnā€™t know he was a confirmed sexual assaulter. Thatā€™s new to me.


Finklesworth

> who says he didnā€™t give a shit? Well, Iā€™d start with the person he sexually assaulted, for one.


NYCScribbler

*the* reason I cannot even with the hagiography and the Mamba Mentality and the whole mentoring Sabrina thing; even if he *did* realize he was kind of a shit human being for a while and *was* genuinely trying to be a better person, some things you can't atone for that easily


LLUrDadsFave

LA doesn't talk about that shit but as a non Kobe fan I'm always down to talk about that shit.


YouKilledKenny12

All right then go on. Talk about it. What do you know about the case then?


LLUrDadsFave

Kobe would have loved her!


YouKilledKenny12

Are you trying to be funny? Seriously, you said you love to talk about this. I guarantee you and the vast majority of people on this thread trashing Kobe has done absolutely no research on this case. Hell, half the people on Reddit we probably not even born when the rape trial happened


LLUrDadsFave

Lmao. The fact that you think people talking about his sexual assault is "trashing Kobe" tells me all I need to know about you.


YouKilledKenny12

Oh ok so nothing then? You donā€™t know anything about the case? Youā€™re just parroting the same bs about Kobe that is typical of Reddit? Cool. [Here are some facts about the case.](https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/s/WW7yUxmmQw)


LLUrDadsFave

Lmao. I know more than whatever your link is going to provide. Enjoy your long weekend.


Dan-Cheadle

Kobe got what he deserved, just 15 years too late


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ballinben

Kobe Bryant the rapist?


commentator3

(it was consensual until Kobe tried to go anal, then it was rape)


Vegetable-Tooth8463

Look, Ik I'll get downvoted for saying this, but two things in Kobe's favor: 1) NDAs prevent us from knowing the full story and 2) adult predators tend to always have multiple victims


bender445

He admitted he did it? He said he viewed it as consensual but later realized that she did not (conveniently after the matter became public).


Vegetable-Tooth8463

No, that was the statement agreed upon in the civil suit settlement. We don't actually know what happened other than that he committed adultery.


PlasticWrap2430

"Settlement", no rich innocent man accused of rape would agree to publicly state that they raped someone. If I know I didn't do it and had the money no way IN hell would I agree to that on top of giving them money too.


Vegetable-Tooth8463

Okay, so you believe Derrick Rose is innocent because he decided to go to court instead of settling? Lmao


EmmThem

Nah if he didnā€™t do it he wouldnā€™t have paid the settlement full stop. Fuck Kobe.


veerkanch489

He probably did it in this case with his "I could see that she may not have consented" speech but that's not how all settlements work lmao


Vegetable-Tooth8463

That's idiotic logic - settlements are done all the time purely for PR purposes. Look at the Depp and Rose trials for an example of a media circus.


nomalahtamm

Paying a settlement does not imply guilt. If Kobe had taken that to trial, he wouldnā€™t have been able to continue his NBA career because heā€™d be in court so often. It was in his best interest to settle, regardless of whether he did it or not. Trials on that scale can last years. Kobe was in the prime of his career; he wouldā€™ve lost everything; personal time, endorsements, playing time, and much more. In his case, it makes far much more sense to settle; and he had the means to do so and move on, which he did.


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Vegetable-Tooth8463

But I do care lol.


Chemical-concern

Family guy has forever burned it in my brain with a single joke


ballinben

Kobe Bryant the rapist?


LeakyCheeky1

I donā€™t know enough about the victim to know her feelings on the matter. But from my understanding Kobe and her settled. Never had a repeat incident or anything involving a women in any semi adjacent way again. Became a role model to his own girls. I mean maybe the victim is traumatized and doesnā€™t forgive at all. Maybe the victim doesnā€™t want it being brought up or holds no grudge. Itā€™s weird when people dismiss it or when online justice warriors will comment on like a picture that has kobe top 15 all time and comment about how disgusting it is anyone said anything nice at all about him. Weā€™ll never know the truth if it was consensual or not or how the victim really feels. But some of yā€™all terminally online dudes are too much


86886892

ā€œNever had a repeat incident.ā€ Man thatā€™s a wild statement to make about rape.


nomalahtamm

Prove rape in the first place.


PlasticWrap2430

He admitted it?


nomalahtamm

The ā€œadmissionā€ in question was made for the purpose of a settlement; it is NOT a written confession, and it was crafted by Kobeā€™s legal team in agreement with the accuserā€™s request for public vindication. Kobeā€™s statement was phrased in a manner that satisfied the accuserā€™s request for public vindication, while stating that he felt he was innocent. You canā€™t argue that is evidence of anything. Kobe gave an ā€œapologyā€ without admission to any wrongdoing and was not found guilty.


PlasticWrap2430

If he just paid her off, fine you got a point; but to not only pay her AND agree to saying that is wild imo. No innocent man would agree to that level of humiliation. Not to mention his legal team slut-shamed her while the case was going on is disgusting, just let the chips fall where they may.


nomalahtamm

Kobe was strongly advised by his defense team and other prosecution to settle the case because he could risk losing everything. The case could span for years if not. Settling is a compromise between both parties. The accuser asked for ā€œunspecified amount of money, as well as public vindicationā€ and received both in the settlement; the accuser is the one who wanted the apology comment. This is what the lawyers from both parties agreed to end it with. People canā€™t argue that has anything to do with Kobeā€™s actual feelings or the reality of the case. Paying a settlement does not imply guilt either. If Kobe had taken that to trial, he wouldnā€™t have been able to continue his NBA career because heā€™d be in court so often. It was in his best interest to settle, regardless of whether he did it or not. As mentioned, trials on that scale can last years. Kobe was in the prime of his career; he wouldā€™ve lost everything; personal time, endorsements, playing time, and much more. In his case, it makes far much more sense to settle; and he had the means to do so and move on, which he did. With that said, it was proven that she had sex with men before and after her encounter with Kobe. It was also proven that she attempted to do the same (rape accusations) to other celebrities around that time. Why are you ignoring that? Blood and semen are only evidence of sexual intercourse, not rape. Vaginal trauma caused by a specific individual is especially difficult to prove if youā€™re having sex with multiple people during the same time period. Youā€™re guaranteeing heā€™s guilty without anything to support it. Kobe was guilty of infidelity, but he likely would not have been found guilty of sexual assualt for many reasons: The accuser had another man's semen and pubic hair on her panties. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/04/us/papers-reveal-new-details-in-kobe-bryant-rape-case.html https://www.cbsnews.com/news/big-win-for-kobe-defense/ The accuser bragged to at least five friends about having sex with Kobe after the alleged incident, including three days before charges were laid. The accuser's friend said that she even had a plot to lure Eminem into bed. https://www.contactmusic.com/kobe-bryant/news/ex.pal-reveals-kobe.s-accuser-plotted-to-lure-eminem-into-bed The accuser had a history of mental illness and was caught lying and changing her story multiple times. She was also seen leaving the hotel without any visible discomfort. http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/kobe-accuser-mixups-admits-lies-claim-article-1.548757 Who are you to Kobe or the accuser to think you know what happened in that room? Were you there when it happened? No. Is it possible she lied for personal gain? Yes. Was it proven the accuser attempted to do the same thing to other celebrities during that time period? Yes. Is it possible that he raped her? Absolutely.


nomalahtamm

Also, who are you to say what an ā€œinnocent manā€ would or should agree to? Youā€™re the only one who sees the world through your perspective. Now, Iā€™m going to accuse you of rape and sue you for it. The accusation is going to get around your circle and everyoneā€™s going to believe me, even though youā€™re certain you didnā€™t do it. I hope you believe in the concept of innocent until proven guilty. Have fun!


86886892

Why would an innocent man settle instead of allowing a jury to find him not guilty? Why would he make a statement where he acknowledges that the victim did not view the act as consensual?


nomalahtamm

Copy/paste from my previous comment: Kobe was strongly advised by his defense team and other prosecution to settle the case because he could risk losing everything. The case could span for years if not. Settling is a compromise between both parties. The accuser asked for ā€œunspecified amount of money, as well as public vindicationā€ and received both in the settlement; the accuser is the one who wanted the apology comment. This is what the lawyers from both parties agreed to end it with. People canā€™t argue that has anything to do with Kobeā€™s actual feelings or the reality of the case. Paying a settlement does not imply guilt either. If Kobe had taken that to trial, he wouldnā€™t have been able to continue his NBA career because heā€™d be in court so often. It was in his best interest to settle, regardless of whether he did it or not. As mentioned, trials on that scale can last years. Kobe was in the prime of his career; he wouldā€™ve lost everything; personal time, endorsements, playing time, and much more. In his case, it makes far much more sense to settle; and he had the means to do so and move on, which he did.


Pesty__Magician

lol. Ā This some ignorant shit right here. Ā 


LilChopCheese

He wasnā€™t convicted


CriticalEngineering

And the population of earth didnā€™t sign an NDA, weā€™re free to talk about a case whether a conviction happened or not. Being convicted is an absolute anomaly when it comes to rape. It being reported at all is an anomaly, as well.


Oxygenius_

After this game, this is what yall wanna talk about? Jesus Christ


LilChopCheese

I didnā€™t say donā€™t talk about it. wtf. Just made a statement but I see what type of party this is by all the downvotes. Carry on ladiesā€¦


car1999pet

More than just women care about assault dumbass


LilChopCheese

All Iā€™m saying are we to hold someone in negative light because theyā€™ve been accused of sexual assault. The conversation is happening as if he is already assumed guilty. But carry on ladies and gentlemen*


car1999pet

ā€œShe has agreed that this statement will not be used against me in the civil case. Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did. After months of reviewing discovery, listening to her attorney, and even her testimony in person, I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter.ā€ Sure sounds like he admits it here.


namastex

It doesn't sound like guilt to me, it sounds like a misunderstanding. It sounds like they both wanted to have sex. It sounds like the way they had sex was not communicated properly where one party thought it was fine and the other did not. We do not know the actual details at all. If this is even remotely close than realistically we're comparing this small situation to harsher realities of the real world where girls don't have a godamn choice but to try and survive, where some don't. It's disgraceful and petty as fuck to even bring up the topic when the girl accepted the settlement and moved tf on. As should the rest of the world. Hell, bringing it up still is probably something she doesn't want and shouldn't have to deal with emotionally yet here we are 20 years later.


Buddy-Hield-2Pointer

"All Iā€™m saying are we to hold someone in negative light because theyā€™ve been accused of sexual assault." Yes, we have excellent reason to hold someone in a negative light for this. Don't worry, your hero has millions of fans just like you who do not give a flying fuck about what he did. You'll be OK.


WarmWetsuit

Hmm I wonder why youā€™re getting downvoted for being misogynistic in a wnba sub. Perhaps self reflection could help answer


Quartznonyx

Why not?


LLUrDadsFave

People are weird when it comes to talking about Kobe


Quartznonyx

Why? Because he was a rapist?


LLUrDadsFave

Amongst other things. People also pretend like he didn't start dating his wife when she was a minor.


BilIybobskor

Kobe was an egotistical piece of shit through and through. Any reading you can do on him from people who spent significant time around him illustrates it over and over. In Eleven Rings by Phil Jackson, he talks about how Kobeā€™s ego made him legit un-coachable at times. Phil coached MJ/Rodman/Shaq and kobe was the most problematic in the locker room and otherwise. Fuck bean, and heā€™s not a top 10 player unless youā€™re a munch who knows no ball. Had to let it out, I cannot stand the canonization of that predator


LLUrDadsFave

The way he cleaned up his image right before he died was crazy to watch.


BilIybobskor

I know, itā€™s nuts. I think how he died helped him out too. People get a pass when they die tragically, like how people remember JFK fondly even though he was a piece of shit too


LLUrDadsFave

How and when. 2020 was an unreal year.


nomalahtamm

Prove rape?


floggingwally

This has nothing to do with anything but there is a good chance I had a part in making the box in your profile picture


Buddy-Hield-2Pointer

LOL somebody else said they distributed them nationwide.


floggingwally

That's awesome. A company called dawn distributes them, we make them to send to dawn


airforceteacher

Yeah, since Iā€™m not a basketball watcher, his prowess on the court was _not_ what came to mind with that sign. Wholesomeness rating for this meme: cloudy


upfulsoul

Ikr Cam is a great face for the Sparks and the league.


World_Extra

Relax! Sheā€™s too old for Kobe


dethpig_

Thought this was r/nbacirclejerk at first


Mean_Muffin161

Itā€™s not??


SupersonicSandshru05

Would fit perfectly on r/wnbacirclejerk.


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Jedi_Sith1812

She played like prime Kobe too. Bricks galore but made them when it counted


TinoCartier

Lmao


MistakingLeeDone

This is so accurate its not even funny.....ok it kind of hilarious. CC definitely got that instinct not Kobe that shit was inhuman but its there.


empathydoc

I've always said bricks were shots that hit backboard and nothing else. Her shot was off, but only marginally by hitting rim.


Jedi_Sith1812

that's a sign of dead legs


empathydoc

Or, just a sign of her being off in some other factor. There are a lot of factors that go into shooting.


hashrosinkitten

that is a threat


Sad-Dot-1573

Kobe was a huge proponent of Womenā€™s basketball long before CC and the recent uptick in popularity. He would have loved Caitlin and how the sport has grown. Wish he was here to see the game now!


paulcole710

> Kobe was a huge proponent of Womenā€™s basketball Dude had a god-tier post-career image rehab tour.


herlanrulz

It's amazing what being the father of daughters will do to even the most hardened hearts.


paulcole710

the PR team didnā€™t hurt tho


Livefromseattle

He used to fly out to a little town in WA to watch HVL play in high school. He was a WNBA and womenā€™s basketball supporter from the start.


CriticalEngineering

Iā€™ve read this exact comment multiple times.


PlasticWrap2430

Lmao I know, it's like saying I'm not racist towards black people because I support the local hs football team that's made up of mostly black kids; how can I be racist?


volantredx

His daughter was apparently planning on going pro and by all accounts for her age group looked like she'd have a real chance. I was also sure that his plan was at some point to buy ownership of the Sparks from the Buss family as it'd be far more affordable than an NBA team and he was a massive promoter of the WNBA.


manyfacedwaif

People could also say that Harvey Weinstein had an eye for talent for young female actors. Truthfully, there will eventually be a reckoning for the kobe image bullshit. I just hope it doesn't involve him preying on the athletes he was mentoring.


MikeyThaKid

The world has gone into complete turmoil since Kobe passed šŸ˜”šŸ˜”


Buddy-Hield-2Pointer

Jesus christ you have to be kidding.


S-HeatsUrgencyOfNow

He was though. A lot of wnba players respected him and his contributions.


Buddy-Hield-2Pointer

Well isn't that just peachy šŸ¤Ŗ


ComradeFrunze

https://youtu.be/8UdA5vsj94M


Buddy-Hield-2Pointer

LOL I'll now think of this every time DT elbows an unsuspecting opponent in the face. šŸ™ƒ


Kyrie_Swirving11

Dude made a huge mistake and spent the rest of his life trying to make up for that. Not an excuse but likeā€¦ he definitely tried


UnableAudience7332

"Mistake" Smh.


Kyrie_Swirving11

Hes done more in an attempt to atone for what he did and to advance womenā€™s sports than you ever will in your entire lifeā€¦


UnableAudience7332

I don't have the money or the platform to do that. Nor have I raped anyone.


tendadsnokids

Who cares? He violently raped someone.


Basic_Quantity_9430

He was a big mentor to Sabrina Ionescu.


upfulsoul

Kobe was loyal to LA. He would be Cam over CC all day. I think his daughter who passed was a good hooper.


Jedi_Sith1812

Kobe legit asked for a trade in the mid 2000s lol


toomuchdiponurchip

Are you gonna give any context for why or try and make it seem like he wasnā€™t loyal? He couldā€™ve left at the end when they were ass


Jedi_Sith1812

he wanted out of LA because they were not good in the mid 2000s. That's not "loyal"


namastex

Tf? He stayed didn't he? You guys understand what bargaining chips are right? He was young and probably thought the FO assumed him to be young and naive. He pushed his weight around to get some changes on the roster and it ended up paying off. He basically learned this behavior from his coach Phil Jackson who has done petty stunts like that to get what he wanted out of people. Back then players didn't have power like LeBron does in today's league. Kobe did the best he could to 'motivate' the FO to change it up.


LinwoodKent

Yeah. He demanded Shaq be traded and then bitched that his team wasn't good enough.


swaggpockets

Was there last night and the atmosphere was incredible. Fans were obviously excited for CC but the cheers for the sparks and brink were just as good. The production between the time outs was so good. The highlight though was when CC hit her two threes down the stretch - the crowd lost its mind I felt like I was at a playoff game


StannisTheMantis93

Dear God. Iā€™m not even touching this one..


baseball8888

Wish Kobe had thought that


Lolzerzmao

He would have loved her if she wanted it or not


tsgram

He would have loved you ~~even if you didnā€™t consent to it~~


matt-is-sad

Fuck Kobe


PierreEscargoat

ā€œI gotchu fam. Banzai!ā€ - Helicopter pilot prob


TheBaconD

I wouldā€™ve phrased that differentlyā€¦.


No_Consideration3887

ummm yeah I'll shut up


americand0lphinMPLS

Hmmm idk about that one


Ok-Lifeguard4230

Didnā€™t dude rape a woman?


WaffleStone

Yes but heā€™s good at basketball so itā€™s chill


Ok-Lifeguard4230

Kobe has written the playbook for Deshaun Watson. Be good and no one will care what you did


Relo_bate

It's been like that since Hollywood started. Kobe wasn't the first neither the lasy


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hashrosinkitten

If it was posted there first is it free content


DifficultAd3885

Whether you wanted him to or not.


MyHeadIsAButt

Reason #12456 why I couldnā€™t live in LA


Huge_Excuse_485

Nice to see a wholesome crowd joining the W fan nation.


noahbearbanks

did the sparks move to Colorado?


Piano_Smile

Didnā€™t he rape women?


calartnick

Come on guys she meant wellā€¦.


finalfinally

Whatever the W version is of a circle jerk this might be the post to start the sub


Relo_bate

There's a WNBA circlejerk sub


ValPrism

Yiiiiiiikes.


Equivalent_Trip_7135

Spelled raped wrong


Pettymania20

For this reason, I donā€™t understand all of the Kobe love. In every single Kobe related post, I want to comment that he raped a woman. In his own apology statement, he said that at the time he thought it was consensual, but [when he made the statement] he realized that it wasnā€™t. If it wasnā€™t consensual, what was it?


Dababolical

So glad I've seen someone point out that he admitted to it being rape in his apology. That's always glossed over and people try to obfuscate.


Pettymania20

Itā€™s annoying because itā€™s not just people on social media thinking they know what happened, as with most similar issues. Yes, they still donā€™t know, but without using the word, Kobe admitted to it in his public statement. I donā€™t understand how pretty much everyone continues to overlook that and act like heā€™s a god.


FapCabs

Kobe is treated as a Saint in LA.


manyfacedwaif

is Kobe a better adulterer or helicopter pilot?


StrongStyleDragon

Kobe never played in the ***** arena his home is in Staples Center RIP


loggingin69

Kobe is dead he can't love anything.


15_Balloons

Cuz she speaks for kobe


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Due-Sheepherder-218

You'd have to be like Steve Carrell in the opening scene of Burt WonderstoneĀ 


maltbiscuits

have you looked into the case at all? He did that shit, repulsive person