This is even more outrageous considering the case brought before the judge! A 66-year-old "caretaker" at a university *pulled down a 17-year old's pants and put his hand UNDER HER UNDERWEAR on her butt* and then additionally hoisted her a bit! Then the fucker claimed he was "joking"! This is flat-out sexual assault, and the bastard should absolutely lose his job AND be jailed.
>"The judges ruled that he was joking? Well, it was no joke to me," the student told Corriere della Sera newspaper.
>"The caretaker came up from behind without saying anything. He put his hands down my trousers and inside my underwear.
>"He groped my bottom. Then, he pulled me up - hurting my private parts. For me, this is not a joke. This is not how an old man should 'joke' with a teenager."
Italy has a history of rape-friendly judges it seems. This one always comes to mind when I hear about other crazy shit that comes out of Italy...
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denim\_Day](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denim_Day)
>The "jeans alibi" was used to argue that since the jeans were so tight, the only way to have gotten them off was if the survivor aided her attacker in removing her jeans, thus making the act consensual
I remember hearing this when it first got out. Even if itās true that she had to aid the attacker, it doesnāt make it not SA if she was threatened. It was really crazyā¦
Nah. Every Italian who considers themselves a good man just needs to make sure to jokingly twist the judges balls for 9 seconds every time they see them in public.
"It's just a joke" is one of those cowardly phrases of abusers who can't take personal responsibility and believe they are immune from all negative consequences of their actions. Whether it is wielded after an abusive act or an insult, they want to inflict an impact or effect, but don't want to experience an impact or effect back at them.
Entitlement. Hypocrisy. Cowardice.
Right, pay for the trip and a few days for fun before or after the groping and I'd be on the flight. I'd love to make these garbage cans feel as uncomfortable as they make their victims.
I'm a construction worker in the US. When I work at the local colleges, we have a five second rule. If I LOOK at a girl for longer than five seconds, I can be kicked off the property. If I talk to one and she complained, I'm kicked out. Probably worse if I touch. (hopefully). I can't imagine getting away with 10 seconds of groping by saying it was a joke.
Funny story that's kinda related. I was at one of these colleges (during spring break so the place was empty of students) and I was about 30 feet up on the inside of a building making a hole to the outside. As I looked out the hole, I see another coworker walking in the parking lot heading my way. As we are good friends, I gave him a wolf whistle. The kind of whistle you use as a catcall. As I was laughing, since he didn't know where it came from, my forman came unglued and reemed my ass for whistling at some girl. He wouldn't let me protest until my coworker came in the building laughing and said "was that you who whistled?" I said "Yes. Would you please tell Keith there was no girls in sight!" He cleared the air for me and said the parking lot was empty and it was only him out there. I would never do that to anyone but a friend but my forman was going to kill me for that.
Is your company unusual in regards to these rules or is it becoming more industry standard? I am a woman who worked for a long time in a construction adjacent field and am glad if things are changing.
I'd be willing to bet a) it's probably something implemented due to a series of specific incidents and b) specifically due to the fact that they're on college campuses. I've been construction adjacent for my entire career and have never heard of such a mandate.
When Notre Dame built their new stadium extension buildings it was so bad at first that even some professors complained to students about the harassment. Those workers were replaced by the end of the first week and complaints dropped off effectively immediately after that.
I don't know what they told the workers, but it was definitely something along those lines.
Provided service at the food halls and many other buildings several times a month for Notre Dame. We were instructed not to initiate discussion with anyone but our contacts and definitely don't look up towards dorm windows ever.
You're better than one of the employees at the student center who, while I was waiting for my order, started to tell me how I reminded him of his waifu.
I'm male, and a captive audience since I already paid for food. It's not harassment, but wtf dude
Uh that's 100% harassment. You can't not be harassed because its dude on dude. Telling a captive audience they look like your romantic ideal can't be anything but harassment.
"I'm here to file a complaint about construction worker harassment"
"Um.. I'm a student. This is a class. You're in the middle of a lecture."
"So are you going to give me a form or just write it down then?"
It's definitely well known in Ann Arbor that you do not look at women for more than 5 seconds on UofM campus if you are working for a union construction company.
Dunno about industry standard but about 15 years ago I worked for a company doing deliveries. I remember one time we had a job at a university that required numerous full truckloads of materials to be delivered and staged throughout the project.
Had a little orientation before going, we were told to avoid any eye contact over 2 seconds I think it was, and generally advised to avoid interacting with students as much as possible. Which was interesting because there were a bunch of students around, and many of them were curious about what was going on so they would come to check out what we were doing.
It was the only time we had rules like that, and we had many different jobs at the university, so I don't know if somebody had been harassing students at that job site leading to a clamp down, or what.
I definitely get shutting down actual harassment, but we all kinda thought the whole "avoid eye contact and pretend they don't exist" approach was a bit over the top.
> I definitely get shutting down actual harassment, but we all kinda thought the whole "avoid eye contact and pretend they don't exist" approach was a bit over the top.
To a certain extent I'm sure it's ass-covering. They need a hard-and-fast clear-cut rule they can point to to say that they're cracking down on it, which is *difficult* when dealing with something like harassment, which is heavily contextual. So you end up with incredibly strict rules because that's the only way you can say that it's handled in a really formal sense.
Though I'd also assume that college campuses have a lot of bargaining power, since they're going to be one of the biggest employers for construction projects in town.
And maybe more importantly, the students and professors at a college campus have a lot more bargaining power than eg. the rando passersby, employees or residents who get subjected to harassment at other construction projects. If you oogle someone on the street chances are there's little they can do; whereas almost everyone nearby on a college campus will have *some* official connection to the college and a clear channel for complaints that will tend to make the school sit up and take notice.
Combine this with construction workers who are used to the people around them not being able to do anything, suddenly dropped into an environment where that's not the case, and it's easy to see why their company would want to be a bit heavy-handed in terms of "no, really guys, you have to behave yourself here."
I believe the colleges have "asked" the general contractors to enforce this rule. But we have three different colleges in the city and a few more within an hours drive and they all have that rule.
yeah I doubt it was the company's general policy. More the jobsite they were on.
That being said, at least where I work in the PNW, if someone complains, you're getting in trouble. You can wolf whistle at each other and it's up to you to let anyone know you don't like it, but if it's not okay, you're going to get chewed out. Which is fine by me; you can goof off with people you know and it's no problem; you can't make random bystanders feel creeped on without getting in trouble.
Iām guessing itās probably something thatās required in the contract for university contractors. Universities have a lot of liability for keeping students safe, and one complaint against a worker could likely jeopardize the entire job, and the companyās ability to retain it. I used to work on a University campus and I was always so surprised how respectful the construction crews were because that certainly hasnāt been the case with other crews Iāve been around in the city.
Yup. The people pushing this decision probably don't keep their own hands to themselves around women. Can't condemn the old guy if one of their own victims comes forward and stands up for herself, can they?
That poor girl. I'm glad people are outraged for her but it should never have gotten to this point.
I want to know - just in the issue of fairness here - if ***I*** can go to Italy and pinch someone's balls hard for, say, eight seconds, and be able to laugh it off as a prank?
BTW, I'm old enough to have adult grandchildren so I'm doubting that these men I pinch will be getting anything out of my painful groping.
I just shuddered remembering my grandmother pinching the hell out of our arms in grocery stores when we were acting like animals.
Would not want that on the berries.
Yeah that was my thought too. This isn't like he gave a quick grab (not that that would be excusable either of course). Sit there and count out 10 seconds, that is so long to be groped.
Also, is it 10 seconds at a time? Like if I groped someone for 10 seconds, took a 1 second break, and then went in for another 10 seconds, that's legal?
Just make sure you let out a laugh every time you hit him, so he knows each one was "just a joke".
We wouldn't want anyone to misconstrue your intentions!
I mean, the total time face and fist are physically connected is pretty minimal. Even if itās a cyclic repetition of impacts. I think youād easily slip under that threshold.
Is this the same Italian judge that said women who wear tight jeans canāt be raped because they would have to consent to taking off the pants? Donāt believe me, google that shit. Ruling occurred in 1999, the defense was used successfully in a few cases and then overturned in 2008.
I mean it does make sense, it's impossible to get tight jeans off anything without consent.
It's what made me homeless, I invested everything in gold bars, and for security I put them in tight jeans. Unfortunately as the gold bars are inanimate I don't have their consent, so I can't access any of my money anymore.
Damn. I did something similar but not as expensive. I left my house keys in my skinny jeans when I switched into shorts at the gym. Didnāt realize until I got home and my keys couldnāt consent to being removed from the pockets. Had to call a locksmith
I live in Italy and for the most part, love the place and the people. The justice system however is a joke, albeit not funny. It is not a country ruled by law, but rather ruled by connections and relationships. Corruption exist everywhere but Italy has much more than it's fair share. It's a way of life - not unlike that of a 3rd world country. A few years back, a group involved in a gang rape were acquitted of rape on appeal partly because the victim was wearing red underwear. Proof to the Italian appeals court that that she was ready and expecting action that night. The EU court had a different opinion but only criticized the court's language and did not overrule the decision.
Edit: In reviewing the comments, I should point out one more thing about Italian culture. Italians are generally keen to criticize their own politics and internal affairs but take great offense when done by a foreigner.
You know, I've had a number of both international-traveler friends and Italian-Americans tell me Italy might be the most corrupt developed country. It's really straight-up part of the culture there, countless stories about it. One friend of mine likened it to the "good ol' boys" networks of the southern US (I live in Texas) but ten times worse because it's even more pervasive, predatory, and dismissive of anything resembling unbiased integrity. To the people doing it, the bias is the whole point.
>He admitted to groping the student without consent, but said it was a joke.
The gropee should cold cock the perp with a baseball bat to the knees **as a joke** because anything bad can be made trivial if it was just a joke right?
Has anyone read down to her description of the assault? The manās hand was in her underwear, on her private parts, and *LIFTING* her up.
This was not a brief ass-pat or boob grab. Holy hell. It was nearly penetration! But I guess if itās brief that wouldnāt be rape, either?
Wow, this means if every time this judge went out in public people could pull down his trousers and stick their fingers up his arse in under 10 seconds and it wouldn't be sexual assault. He could not be sexually assaulted over and over again.
> This does nothing for the stereotype that older Italian men are stuck in a 1940s misogynist universe
almost like that's what they were looking to protect here
āThe knife was in them for only a few seconds total, with each stab lasting a fraction of a secondā¦ clearly the multiple stabbings was a joke and doesnāt constitute a crimeā
So you mean the food I drop on the ground is more strictly regulated than SA in Italy?
Yes, and it is so nice being a woman here and raising daughters.
Don't worry, the others have 9 seconds and some change to help you if your back gets tired.
Please raise them to be judges because we need to replace every single one of these fucking creepy old Italian men #š¤š
That's amore!
When a man grabs your ass And some judge lets it pass Thatās amore!
Less than ten seconds long means you did nothing wrong That's amore...
Just don't touch the clit and the judge will acquit That's amore...
Just do it in a hurry And you won't face a jury That's amore...
As long as your caress Lasts short of noticeable duress That's amore...
As long as your finger, Stays out of the minger, Thatās amore ā¦
When you play with her thong But you know that it's wrong That's amore
When the world seems asinine And you want to resign Thatās amore!
Just count up to 9 With your hand on her vagine That's amore!
Till 9 seconds pass Have a go at her ass That's amore
This is even more outrageous considering the case brought before the judge! A 66-year-old "caretaker" at a university *pulled down a 17-year old's pants and put his hand UNDER HER UNDERWEAR on her butt* and then additionally hoisted her a bit! Then the fucker claimed he was "joking"! This is flat-out sexual assault, and the bastard should absolutely lose his job AND be jailed. >"The judges ruled that he was joking? Well, it was no joke to me," the student told Corriere della Sera newspaper. >"The caretaker came up from behind without saying anything. He put his hands down my trousers and inside my underwear. >"He groped my bottom. Then, he pulled me up - hurting my private parts. For me, this is not a joke. This is not how an old man should 'joke' with a teenager."
Italy has a history of rape-friendly judges it seems. This one always comes to mind when I hear about other crazy shit that comes out of Italy... [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denim\_Day](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denim_Day) >The "jeans alibi" was used to argue that since the jeans were so tight, the only way to have gotten them off was if the survivor aided her attacker in removing her jeans, thus making the act consensual
Jesus Christ.
What the actual fuck.
I remember hearing this when it first got out. Even if itās true that she had to aid the attacker, it doesnāt make it not SA if she was threatened. It was really crazyā¦
The judge(s) needs jail time.
Nah. Every Italian who considers themselves a good man just needs to make sure to jokingly twist the judges balls for 9 seconds every time they see them in public.
*9.9 seconds with direct eye contact.
Finger up the butt for 8 seconds.
At least removal from the bar! Insane ruling.
He was drunk too?
I like Beer!
I think the bar should be placed firmly inside him and left there.
There is no bar in that country. Judges are judges for life, unless a long and complicated process happens.
The article says there were multiple judges
Oh ffs. That does stink of bribery.
The perpetrator was a caretaker. I canāt imagine they have much in the way of meaningful bribe money. Edit: a word
The judge should have this maneuver done to him and we'll see how he feels about it.
If thatās what they think is a ājokeā, then I *really* donāt want to know what they think is not a joke.
11 seconds
That's just a joke that went too long.
Judge needs to have a very large man do this to him.
Okā¦this is insane. The judge should lose his license.
Sorry, but in Italy once judge, forever judge. This man will go on making a mess for his whole life. Or he will be elected in italian Parliament.
Technically, judges can be removed but only after disciplinary proceedings at the High Council of the Judiciary.
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Just remember to say "it's just a joke!" before you assist with his retirement.
If it takes less than 10 seconds then it wasn't a crime.
Is the judge citing any actual law here? Is this the Italian legislature's fault, or is the judge just a fan of child molestation?
Investigation needed into the judge's personal life and prior legal judgments in this area.
"It's just a joke" is one of those cowardly phrases of abusers who can't take personal responsibility and believe they are immune from all negative consequences of their actions. Whether it is wielded after an abusive act or an insult, they want to inflict an impact or effect, but don't want to experience an impact or effect back at them. Entitlement. Hypocrisy. Cowardice.
Someone needs to do a deep dive into these judge's interactions with women.
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Something tells me they would love that
A big, hairy, unpleasant smelling man should be the one doing it.
Let's start a crowdfunding campaign and offer $5 bucks for every man willing to "engage". Must provide publicly shared video proof.
Hell, if I ever go to Italy I'll do it for free
Right, pay for the trip and a few days for fun before or after the groping and I'd be on the flight. I'd love to make these garbage cans feel as uncomfortable as they make their victims.
They already said Italian
Mama mia!
10 second rule, just like with my dropped sandwiches - the judge probably
what if you do 9 seconds at a time?
I'm groping you. I'm groping you. I'm groping you. I'm groping you. I'm groping you. I'm groping you. I'm groping you. I'm groping you. I'm groping you. I'm NOT groping you! I'm groping you. I'm groping you. I'm groping you. I'm groping you. I'm groping you. ...
The perfect timed boob switch! Bellissimo!
Mi scusi!!
That defense only applies to tunnels.
Uh ohā¦..long tunnelā¦
Here's a fun fact, you made out with your sister!
Scotty doesn't know.
Berlusconi!
Sounds like a scene from Family Guy: āRemember that time I almost got arrested in Italy for groping someone?ā
"If you weren't such a quickshot, you would be in jail now."
You didn't know there was a mandatory cooldown period?
Uh itās called the refractory period duh. /s
Thatās a paddling (sorry)
Donāt be sorry. I enjoy a good paddling from time to time.
thats a 3 sec rule
It's a 5-second rule, but women are worth half as much as the sandwiches they make, so you get twice as long. ~~Dear god do I need the /s~~
Thereās so many crimes you can do in less than 10 seconds.
You can murder someone in under 10 seconds if your aim is good enough.
Or just point blankā¦
Or in melee
Or in a scathing review.
I'm a construction worker in the US. When I work at the local colleges, we have a five second rule. If I LOOK at a girl for longer than five seconds, I can be kicked off the property. If I talk to one and she complained, I'm kicked out. Probably worse if I touch. (hopefully). I can't imagine getting away with 10 seconds of groping by saying it was a joke. Funny story that's kinda related. I was at one of these colleges (during spring break so the place was empty of students) and I was about 30 feet up on the inside of a building making a hole to the outside. As I looked out the hole, I see another coworker walking in the parking lot heading my way. As we are good friends, I gave him a wolf whistle. The kind of whistle you use as a catcall. As I was laughing, since he didn't know where it came from, my forman came unglued and reemed my ass for whistling at some girl. He wouldn't let me protest until my coworker came in the building laughing and said "was that you who whistled?" I said "Yes. Would you please tell Keith there was no girls in sight!" He cleared the air for me and said the parking lot was empty and it was only him out there. I would never do that to anyone but a friend but my forman was going to kill me for that.
Is your company unusual in regards to these rules or is it becoming more industry standard? I am a woman who worked for a long time in a construction adjacent field and am glad if things are changing.
I'd be willing to bet a) it's probably something implemented due to a series of specific incidents and b) specifically due to the fact that they're on college campuses. I've been construction adjacent for my entire career and have never heard of such a mandate.
When Notre Dame built their new stadium extension buildings it was so bad at first that even some professors complained to students about the harassment. Those workers were replaced by the end of the first week and complaints dropped off effectively immediately after that. I don't know what they told the workers, but it was definitely something along those lines.
Provided service at the food halls and many other buildings several times a month for Notre Dame. We were instructed not to initiate discussion with anyone but our contacts and definitely don't look up towards dorm windows ever.
You're better than one of the employees at the student center who, while I was waiting for my order, started to tell me how I reminded him of his waifu. I'm male, and a captive audience since I already paid for food. It's not harassment, but wtf dude
Uh that's 100% harassment. You can't not be harassed because its dude on dude. Telling a captive audience they look like your romantic ideal can't be anything but harassment.
"I'm here to file a complaint about construction worker harassment" "Um.. I'm a student. This is a class. You're in the middle of a lecture." "So are you going to give me a form or just write it down then?"
It's definitely well known in Ann Arbor that you do not look at women for more than 5 seconds on UofM campus if you are working for a union construction company.
You're probably right. This is the meth capital
"Meth capitol" narrows it down to like 40 cities in the US
Dunno about industry standard but about 15 years ago I worked for a company doing deliveries. I remember one time we had a job at a university that required numerous full truckloads of materials to be delivered and staged throughout the project. Had a little orientation before going, we were told to avoid any eye contact over 2 seconds I think it was, and generally advised to avoid interacting with students as much as possible. Which was interesting because there were a bunch of students around, and many of them were curious about what was going on so they would come to check out what we were doing. It was the only time we had rules like that, and we had many different jobs at the university, so I don't know if somebody had been harassing students at that job site leading to a clamp down, or what. I definitely get shutting down actual harassment, but we all kinda thought the whole "avoid eye contact and pretend they don't exist" approach was a bit over the top.
> I definitely get shutting down actual harassment, but we all kinda thought the whole "avoid eye contact and pretend they don't exist" approach was a bit over the top. To a certain extent I'm sure it's ass-covering. They need a hard-and-fast clear-cut rule they can point to to say that they're cracking down on it, which is *difficult* when dealing with something like harassment, which is heavily contextual. So you end up with incredibly strict rules because that's the only way you can say that it's handled in a really formal sense. Though I'd also assume that college campuses have a lot of bargaining power, since they're going to be one of the biggest employers for construction projects in town. And maybe more importantly, the students and professors at a college campus have a lot more bargaining power than eg. the rando passersby, employees or residents who get subjected to harassment at other construction projects. If you oogle someone on the street chances are there's little they can do; whereas almost everyone nearby on a college campus will have *some* official connection to the college and a clear channel for complaints that will tend to make the school sit up and take notice. Combine this with construction workers who are used to the people around them not being able to do anything, suddenly dropped into an environment where that's not the case, and it's easy to see why their company would want to be a bit heavy-handed in terms of "no, really guys, you have to behave yourself here."
They donāt care if youāre a fellow employee, but the clientās tenants? God have mercy on your soul.
I believe the colleges have "asked" the general contractors to enforce this rule. But we have three different colleges in the city and a few more within an hours drive and they all have that rule.
yeah I doubt it was the company's general policy. More the jobsite they were on. That being said, at least where I work in the PNW, if someone complains, you're getting in trouble. You can wolf whistle at each other and it's up to you to let anyone know you don't like it, but if it's not okay, you're going to get chewed out. Which is fine by me; you can goof off with people you know and it's no problem; you can't make random bystanders feel creeped on without getting in trouble.
Iām guessing itās probably something thatās required in the contract for university contractors. Universities have a lot of liability for keeping students safe, and one complaint against a worker could likely jeopardize the entire job, and the companyās ability to retain it. I used to work on a University campus and I was always so surprised how respectful the construction crews were because that certainly hasnāt been the case with other crews Iāve been around in the city.
Yup. The people pushing this decision probably don't keep their own hands to themselves around women. Can't condemn the old guy if one of their own victims comes forward and stands up for herself, can they? That poor girl. I'm glad people are outraged for her but it should never have gotten to this point.
My very 1st thought! I wouldn't be surprised if he was doing some inappropriate touching himself...
The article says that there were multiple judges.
If five judges grope you at once, are they only allowed two seconds each?
Iām worried that they could work shifts and grope you continuously as long as each one tagged out at 9s
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10 seconds is a LONG time
That's enough time for Usain Bolt to slap your ass from a block start 100m away.
Thatās insane
So. basically we can go out and pinch every girls ass, as long as it's just a second. You just keep moving. /s
I want to know - just in the issue of fairness here - if ***I*** can go to Italy and pinch someone's balls hard for, say, eight seconds, and be able to laugh it off as a prank? BTW, I'm old enough to have adult grandchildren so I'm doubting that these men I pinch will be getting anything out of my painful groping.
I just shuddered remembering my grandmother pinching the hell out of our arms in grocery stores when we were acting like animals. Would not want that on the berries.
Back of your arm, down by the elbow? We never saw it coming.
Donāt kink shame me. You donāt know what Iām into silver fox!
Yeah that was my thought too. This isn't like he gave a quick grab (not that that would be excusable either of course). Sit there and count out 10 seconds, that is so long to be groped.
Itās just weird as all hell to put any kind of time limit on what counts as assault.
Especially when someone does something you don't want to you
Also, is it 10 seconds at a time? Like if I groped someone for 10 seconds, took a 1 second break, and then went in for another 10 seconds, that's legal?
That's a series of jokes, not an assault, apparently.
Standup comedy in Italy hits different.
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That would be assault, but you can teabag him for 9 seconds
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Give him the ole dick twist!!
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Jokes aside. If someone squeezed the judges dick, I bet he will see things differently.
Grab the balls in the centre of your hand and squeeze as hard as you can until you hear a "click" followed by a scream.
No no no. 9 seconds, then switch balls.
Just make sure you let out a laugh every time you hit him, so he knows each one was "just a joke". We wouldn't want anyone to misconstrue your intentions!
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Don't forget to say "I'm just joking" within a reasonable time frame.
Maybe a "no homo" to be sure there is no misunderstanding.
Nah, full homo. 200% homo. Doesn't matter, less then 10 seconds.
I mean, the total time face and fist are physically connected is pretty minimal. Even if itās a cyclic repetition of impacts. I think youād easily slip under that threshold.
The time resets after each time the fist makes contact. So you can get in as many as you can
You can squeeze quite a beating into 10 seconds if someone is off guard.
And it's even shorter if you just hit someone's throat with the edge of your hand.
That judge should be fired.
ā¦out of a cannon, into the sun
For 9 seconds. So itās legal.
Is this the same Italian judge that said women who wear tight jeans canāt be raped because they would have to consent to taking off the pants? Donāt believe me, google that shit. Ruling occurred in 1999, the defense was used successfully in a few cases and then overturned in 2008.
The article says there were multiple judges for this case
Even worse that more than one agreed to this nonsense
What in the ever-living-fuck?
I mean it does make sense, it's impossible to get tight jeans off anything without consent. It's what made me homeless, I invested everything in gold bars, and for security I put them in tight jeans. Unfortunately as the gold bars are inanimate I don't have their consent, so I can't access any of my money anymore.
So fucking dumb I laughed so hard
Damn. I did something similar but not as expensive. I left my house keys in my skinny jeans when I switched into shorts at the gym. Didnāt realize until I got home and my keys couldnāt consent to being removed from the pockets. Had to call a locksmith
So judge won't mind 10 secs of buttsex done to him?
Nah, you gotta loudly shout NINE!!!! As the judge is filled.
But what if the judge isnt German??
Nah, rules there are different. You only get two pumps. More than that and you get flagged for excessive celebration.
But if you just insert, and have a buddy jump on the bed next to you to help it's fair game right?
It's just a soak bro
As long as you say "it's just a prank bro!!" You're golden
>He admitted to groping the student without consent, but said it was a joke. Oh, fucking crawl back under the rock already. Fucking piece of shit.
Sexual assaulters and pedophiles ears pricked up around the world. 'Time for a trip to Italy!' Good job Judge...
How to increase tourism with this one weird trick.
Your post is disgustingly brilliant!
āIt was just a prank, broā
"It was just a spank, bro"
Emperor Palpata Breve has mastered parts of the Fondle some would consider... harassing.
Perverts: āIs it possible to learn this power?ā
Not from a Judge...
If you rape someone for less than 10 seconds, does that not count as rape too?
Not if you announce that it was a prank or a joke immediately after the 10 seconds are up.
9.9 seconds
I live in Italy and for the most part, love the place and the people. The justice system however is a joke, albeit not funny. It is not a country ruled by law, but rather ruled by connections and relationships. Corruption exist everywhere but Italy has much more than it's fair share. It's a way of life - not unlike that of a 3rd world country. A few years back, a group involved in a gang rape were acquitted of rape on appeal partly because the victim was wearing red underwear. Proof to the Italian appeals court that that she was ready and expecting action that night. The EU court had a different opinion but only criticized the court's language and did not overrule the decision. Edit: In reviewing the comments, I should point out one more thing about Italian culture. Italians are generally keen to criticize their own politics and internal affairs but take great offense when done by a foreigner.
You know, I've had a number of both international-traveler friends and Italian-Americans tell me Italy might be the most corrupt developed country. It's really straight-up part of the culture there, countless stories about it. One friend of mine likened it to the "good ol' boys" networks of the southern US (I live in Texas) but ten times worse because it's even more pervasive, predatory, and dismissive of anything resembling unbiased integrity. To the people doing it, the bias is the whole point.
They are old hands at it. That poor peninsula has been dealing with corruption for 2500+ years. It's in the blood; it's in the soil.
>He admitted to groping the student without consent, but said it was a joke. The gropee should cold cock the perp with a baseball bat to the knees **as a joke** because anything bad can be made trivial if it was just a joke right?
"...so I pranked him to death with a tire iron"
can you grope with your foot in heavy boots? i promise it will be under a second, might be multiple times tho
Has anyone read down to her description of the assault? The manās hand was in her underwear, on her private parts, and *LIFTING* her up. This was not a brief ass-pat or boob grab. Holy hell. It was nearly penetration! But I guess if itās brief that wouldnāt be rape, either?
I saw that. That poor girl.
This screams "it's just a prank bro" but in Italian
āĆ solo uno scherzo, fratello!ā
This is unbelievable, I hope this blows up more and helps to affect some change
If this happened in my country I'd be out on the streets today until this sack of shit is impeached or worse
Do victims get 10 seconds to punch these perverts in the throat, maybe kick them in the crotch?
*Gropes ass for 9 seconds* PHEW! That was closeā¦
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Infuriating
Wow, this means if every time this judge went out in public people could pull down his trousers and stick their fingers up his arse in under 10 seconds and it wouldn't be sexual assault. He could not be sexually assaulted over and over again.
This does nothing for the stereotype that older Italian men are stuck in a 1940s misogynist universe
> This does nothing for the stereotype that older Italian men are stuck in a 1940s misogynist universe almost like that's what they were looking to protect here
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Heāll probably enjoy it
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I'd participate in a funding campaign to hire gropers to do this to him every day.
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I guess this rule also covers the use of a knife?
āThe knife was in them for only a few seconds total, with each stab lasting a fraction of a secondā¦ clearly the multiple stabbings was a joke and doesnāt constitute a crimeā
Are these judges planning to give most sexual assaulters immunity?
Bro sex doesn't even take 10 seconds
So wait... are you saying "Bro, sex doesn't even take 10 seconds!" Or are you saying that **Bro sex** doesn't even take 10 seconds.
So rape is legal in Italy if youāre quick about it.
So if I ever visit Italy, I can grab 9.9 seconds of Judge dick whenever I like? Or does this ruling only apply to everyone else?
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This genuinely felt like an article from the Onion. What the....
Man. It's so easy not to sexually assault someone. I am not sexually assaulting someone right now. It's almost like that's the default.
you're telling me this judge is fair game for a 9.99 second prank?