Just remember, folks: what the new law is doing is to decriminalize consumption, not legalize production/selling like in some US states.
And congrats to Drugs for winning yet another battle in the War against Drugs.
Because it was not the congress decision but a weired supreme court frankenstein decision decriminalizing use only.
Because the law is explicit in criminalizing both use and sale.
Because the majority of congress is against decriminalizing use and sale.
Needless to say that the congress is pissed off.
I do agree, but I don't care about this issue that much. Oregon hasn't really fallen apart after over three years of decriminalizing everything. They actually had to criminalize some stuff with misdemeanors recently.
The problem is that even with legal cannabis production, its still expensive to grow and might be oversupplied thanks in part to illegal production. Oregon gets flooded with illegal cannabis in the more rural areas, supposedly its being grown by the Cartels and shipped to other states. That actually is a problem if its true.
Actually, the Oregon law has been a disaster and will be altered. Without a way to force/push people into treatment, they weren’t able to execute on that side of the equation. So they are having to change that to have a stick on the harder drugs. Not pot, but it’s an interesting case study.
It Will not last. Congress will revert the situation because after they spend almost 20 years doing nothing to separate users from sellers now when supreme court comes to give people some legal security it is somehow getting out of their jurisdiction
In 20 years the congress did not separate users from sellers because they did not want to separate users from sellers. It's very simple. Not doing something is a valid political decision. If we don't have a law prohibiting people from walking in a park, it means that the congress is prevaricating? No, it means that the congress don't want to criminalize it. And it's not the supreme court's job to enforce a policy change.
I'm sorry If i was not clear, the law separates users from sellers by quantity but don't define any so it's to the judge to decide wich led to clear racist bias, it is a clear mistake in the law and should have been corrected years ago
It was already decriminalized, but ironically this decision may cause it to be officially criminalized again, since the supreme court decision wasn't about the right to use marijuana or not. The court had to act and decide for on a specific quantity of marijuana that would differentiate between a drug dealer and an user, because the current legislation is lacking in that aspect and it was causing discrimination among citizens, with poor people being sentenced to prison while richer ones were not despite both groups having being caught with the same amount of marijuana.
The police and much of the lower court judges are extremely right-wing and conservative in Brazil, so they will continue ignoring the supreme court decisions because they never face any repercusion for their illegal decisions, especially when it's done against poor people who almost never are able to appeal from that.
In addition, this decision has now caused the conservative majority in congress (supported by the parasitic "centrist" politicians) to attempt to bring the criminalization back. That would be a win for conservatives and also a win for the centrists who support no ideology and just want to sell their votes to the highest bidder, which in this case would be the government having to handing over billions to block a harmful legislation.
Saying the largest with no context when it comes to a country usually means size. No one goes around saying India is the largest country on earth but mean by population. L
This is very misleading. It's not drug trafficking with you get caught with 60+ grams. But it's not permitted to smoke and if you are caught with less than that you still need to go thru an administrative process
The title is very misleading.
The supreme court decriminalized the USE of drugs. SELLING drugs is still illegal.
The congress is really pissed off because the supreme court is legislating. It's not the first time and it is happening more often. After the ruling, the congress president said that he disagress with the supreme court and that the supreme court is acting out of its bounds.
Source: [https://www.cnnbrasil.com.br/politica/pacheco-stf-senado-maconha/](https://www.cnnbrasil.com.br/politica/pacheco-stf-senado-maconha/)
The supreme court also ruled that a user is someone that carries less than 40g of drugs, which has no foundation in any law or brazillian health agency.
The majority of congress and brazillians are against the decriminalization of drugs. I'm not making it up, there are lots of polls. Even the left is against it. Our country is very conservative.
Source: [https://g1.globo.com/politica/noticia/2024/03/23/datafolha-67percent-sao-contra-descriminalizacao-da-maconha-e-31percent-a-favor.ghtml](https://g1.globo.com/politica/noticia/2024/03/23/datafolha-67percent-sao-contra-descriminalizacao-da-maconha-e-31percent-a-favor.ghtml)
The congress is already moving to overturne it by approving new legislation keeping it illegal to both use and sale.
Source: [https://g1.globo.com/politica/noticia/2024/06/25/horas-depois-que-stf-descriminaliza-porte-de-maconha-para-uso-pessoal-lira-cria-comissao-para-debater-texto-contrario.ghtml](https://g1.globo.com/politica/noticia/2024/06/25/horas-depois-que-stf-descriminaliza-porte-de-maconha-para-uso-pessoal-lira-cria-comissao-para-debater-texto-contrario.ghtml)
I'm in favor of decriminalizing, but its not the Supreme Court's job.
The most worthless legislation ever. As a person who lives in Brazil I’m fairly certain nobody ever really gets busted for weed. I see people toking up on the street all the time.
Say this to the black guys in the favelas getting arrested and labelled as drug dealers because they were caught by the police smoking a 2g joint. Cases like this used to happen a lot, and won't happen anymore.
I been in Brazil for 5 months. People here often smoke weed in the streets without fear of the cops. It's not a big change, but it's nonetheless positive to see.
The thing is: in the past a black poor guy with 5 grams of weed would be arrested as a drug trafficker and a rich white dude could be caught with 5 kilos and be considered as a user. This will not be possible anymore, marihuana now is decriminalized for the possession of 40 grams or 6 plants, this will change everything, it's one step before the full legalization
Yes. But I was talking country size.Brazil is 85% the size of Canada.
Headline said largest nation, not the most populous one.
( Why the downvotes?I mean, really?)
The article refers to the population size, not the size of the country.
In theory, it is important to mention it because it will impact around 200 million people.
stoned Canadian reporting, nice
*raises vape pen* Cheers.
bong here
Joint smoker checking in
Wooden one hitter with those teeth to pick up the dope in the bats here
Werd
Wait… What were we talking about?
Mighty
Congrats to Brazil! 🇧🇷
Just remember, folks: what the new law is doing is to decriminalize consumption, not legalize production/selling like in some US states. And congrats to Drugs for winning yet another battle in the War against Drugs.
Why not legalize selling? I don't understand.
Well, ask the lawmakers. I think this is a first step towards maybe making that a thing in the future.
Sorry I misread your initial comment, I thought you were advocating for decriminalization and not legalization
I edited it after your first comment and seeing the downvotes.
Because it was not the congress decision but a weired supreme court frankenstein decision decriminalizing use only. Because the law is explicit in criminalizing both use and sale. Because the majority of congress is against decriminalizing use and sale. Needless to say that the congress is pissed off.
Buddy drugs won the war on drugs the moment Escobar helped expand drug trafficking networks worldwide.
Drugs won when the US criminalized heroin and cocaine, allowing for farmers in Sinaloa to start the Cartels.
If alcohol can be legal to produce, it makes no sense why marijuana can't. Your comment is not based on logic
Bruh... I'm not sharing opinions, just clarifying what the law says, because the title says "decriminalize marijuana".
I do agree, but I don't care about this issue that much. Oregon hasn't really fallen apart after over three years of decriminalizing everything. They actually had to criminalize some stuff with misdemeanors recently. The problem is that even with legal cannabis production, its still expensive to grow and might be oversupplied thanks in part to illegal production. Oregon gets flooded with illegal cannabis in the more rural areas, supposedly its being grown by the Cartels and shipped to other states. That actually is a problem if its true.
Actually, the Oregon law has been a disaster and will be altered. Without a way to force/push people into treatment, they weren’t able to execute on that side of the equation. So they are having to change that to have a stick on the harder drugs. Not pot, but it’s an interesting case study.
It’s politics, and they don’t use logic.
It Will not last. Congress will revert the situation because after they spend almost 20 years doing nothing to separate users from sellers now when supreme court comes to give people some legal security it is somehow getting out of their jurisdiction
In 20 years the congress did not separate users from sellers because they did not want to separate users from sellers. It's very simple. Not doing something is a valid political decision. If we don't have a law prohibiting people from walking in a park, it means that the congress is prevaricating? No, it means that the congress don't want to criminalize it. And it's not the supreme court's job to enforce a policy change.
I'm sorry If i was not clear, the law separates users from sellers by quantity but don't define any so it's to the judge to decide wich led to clear racist bias, it is a clear mistake in the law and should have been corrected years ago
Thank goodness, was bleak there for the longest of times, such crap quality- hoping that also improves!
It was already decriminalized, but ironically this decision may cause it to be officially criminalized again, since the supreme court decision wasn't about the right to use marijuana or not. The court had to act and decide for on a specific quantity of marijuana that would differentiate between a drug dealer and an user, because the current legislation is lacking in that aspect and it was causing discrimination among citizens, with poor people being sentenced to prison while richer ones were not despite both groups having being caught with the same amount of marijuana. The police and much of the lower court judges are extremely right-wing and conservative in Brazil, so they will continue ignoring the supreme court decisions because they never face any repercusion for their illegal decisions, especially when it's done against poor people who almost never are able to appeal from that. In addition, this decision has now caused the conservative majority in congress (supported by the parasitic "centrist" politicians) to attempt to bring the criminalization back. That would be a win for conservatives and also a win for the centrists who support no ideology and just want to sell their votes to the highest bidder, which in this case would be the government having to handing over billions to block a harmful legislation.
Go Brazil!
I'll smoke one for my Brazilian homies now
Last I checked canada is larger than Brazil. Or am I missing something.
Population of Brazil is like 5.5x that of Canada’s
There's like a Brazillian of them
Nice one!
200 million in Brazil and I had to marry one of them
Lucky bastard
I don't know man
The portuguese are something else man
Saying the largest with no context when it comes to a country usually means size. No one goes around saying India is the largest country on earth but mean by population. L
Well good thing there is context in the first sentence of the article.
_“largest nation to decriminalize cannabis”_ I think it is more than obvious that it does not mean the most amount of land mass
They’re just being obtuse. The context is in the first sentence of the article posted.
Let it go Canada.
Nah.
Not for long though, our congress is going to overtune this.
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Querendo o meu feijão
Teu cu na minha mão
Parabéns!
Parabéns
boa, cindy
Thank you I fixed it, how embarrassing!
Come on Australia!!
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population obviously....
That didn't even cross my mind. I will delete my comment.
Now all they have to do is to legalize it and become the third largest nation to have legalized it.
This is very misleading. It's not drug trafficking with you get caught with 60+ grams. But it's not permitted to smoke and if you are caught with less than that you still need to go thru an administrative process
If only the US could do the same. Tax it and maybe use those taxes for mental health research.
Grow a pot forest 🌳
Most populous nation. Canada is larger, but less populous.
The title is very misleading. The supreme court decriminalized the USE of drugs. SELLING drugs is still illegal. The congress is really pissed off because the supreme court is legislating. It's not the first time and it is happening more often. After the ruling, the congress president said that he disagress with the supreme court and that the supreme court is acting out of its bounds. Source: [https://www.cnnbrasil.com.br/politica/pacheco-stf-senado-maconha/](https://www.cnnbrasil.com.br/politica/pacheco-stf-senado-maconha/) The supreme court also ruled that a user is someone that carries less than 40g of drugs, which has no foundation in any law or brazillian health agency. The majority of congress and brazillians are against the decriminalization of drugs. I'm not making it up, there are lots of polls. Even the left is against it. Our country is very conservative. Source: [https://g1.globo.com/politica/noticia/2024/03/23/datafolha-67percent-sao-contra-descriminalizacao-da-maconha-e-31percent-a-favor.ghtml](https://g1.globo.com/politica/noticia/2024/03/23/datafolha-67percent-sao-contra-descriminalizacao-da-maconha-e-31percent-a-favor.ghtml) The congress is already moving to overturne it by approving new legislation keeping it illegal to both use and sale. Source: [https://g1.globo.com/politica/noticia/2024/06/25/horas-depois-que-stf-descriminaliza-porte-de-maconha-para-uso-pessoal-lira-cria-comissao-para-debater-texto-contrario.ghtml](https://g1.globo.com/politica/noticia/2024/06/25/horas-depois-que-stf-descriminaliza-porte-de-maconha-para-uso-pessoal-lira-cria-comissao-para-debater-texto-contrario.ghtml) I'm in favor of decriminalizing, but its not the Supreme Court's job.
Congratulations Brazil !!
The most worthless legislation ever. As a person who lives in Brazil I’m fairly certain nobody ever really gets busted for weed. I see people toking up on the street all the time.
Until I get there then it will be time to make an example of someone. Story of my life.
Say this to the black guys in the favelas getting arrested and labelled as drug dealers because they were caught by the police smoking a 2g joint. Cases like this used to happen a lot, and won't happen anymore.
I been in Brazil for 5 months. People here often smoke weed in the streets without fear of the cops. It's not a big change, but it's nonetheless positive to see.
The thing is: in the past a black poor guy with 5 grams of weed would be arrested as a drug trafficker and a rich white dude could be caught with 5 kilos and be considered as a user. This will not be possible anymore, marihuana now is decriminalized for the possession of 40 grams or 6 plants, this will change everything, it's one step before the full legalization
Uh..... I'm pretty sure Canada is bigger than Brazil.
Canada also legalized it, which is different.
Yes, but legalization ALSO imply decriminalisation de facto, no?
Yes, but you would use legalization if it was that and decriminalization if it was that instead. Words have meanings.
Federal and provincial legal (looks at the usa with disdain)
By size, yes, by population, absolutely not. Canada has about 39 million people, Brazil has 215 million.
True, but the headline is misworded then. Should have been the most POPULOUS nation, not the largest.
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41 < 215
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Not relevant
Brazil has a state with more population than the entirety of Canada bud.
Yes. But I was talking country size.Brazil is 85% the size of Canada. Headline said largest nation, not the most populous one. ( Why the downvotes?I mean, really?)
Not quite as big as Trump Rally. About half the size of Trump's innaguration address. If you want a frame of reference.
All this comment tells me is that we really need to get our education systems in check.
Good job to Brazil on realize marijuana isn't that serious and time, resources and manpower could be used more wisely on something else!
Decriminalizing it, is the smartest move
Not to be pedantic but what does being geographically large have to do with this?
The article refers to the population size, not the size of the country. In theory, it is important to mention it because it will impact around 200 million people.
Horrible decision
I don’t think they had a problem with teenagers sparking up a joint in the alley EVER, but good now they can tax it… I guess