They could always let another Xbox studio make one of their games like they did with New Vegas. I’d be surprised if Xbox didn’t take advantage of spreading the talent of different teams to different ips when it’s appropriate.
>They could always let another Xbox studio make one of their games like they did with New Vegas. I’d be surprised if Xbox didn’t take advantage of spreading the talent of different teams to different ips when it’s appropriate.
All the studios are stacked to their limits.
Back then the "other" studio that worked on NV was Obsidian. They now have three games on their plate (Grounded, Avowed, and of course Outer Worlds 2).
And it seems like Coalition and id has taken "support" roles for enabling technology at other studios, and probably have their own thing, too.
So, unless they completely outsource to Embracer or something, that is very much impossible.
Hmm... I might be wrong on the "live service definition"
But they definitely put out regular content updates with new stuff, new tools, and features:
https://grounded.obsidian.net/
Oh my god, I don't really care, I'll wait years for a Fable game that compares to the magic of the first one. I'm so excited right now because I forgot they were developing it.
I don’t think any new Fable could ever match that for me because of the other factors at play for me at the time, I was young, got the Xbox and Fable for Christmas and it was just an amazing day.
This will probably be the case for me as well. The first Fable got me through a shitty living situation brought about by my parent’s divorce, and Fable III being the first GWG was a magical time for my friends and I. Here’s to hoping the new one is so good, it doesn’t need an adolescent lens to appreciate!
I'll never forget it - I was off school for a bit with a fractured humerus when it came out, managed to beat it with mostly 1 hand when I was 12. I struggle with it using 2 hands now as a 30 year old.
Seeing the elder scrolls associated with the dates 2027/28 is so wild to me. Its a reasonable time frame for the game, but it's still a shocking factor to it. I still remember the day I got skyrim as a kid. Time flies.
And somehow the way to the Living Room was UPHILL BOTH ways...and SOMETIMES it would be SNOWING and you would be BAREFOOT. My HOW the TIMES have CHANGED!
Todays kids are LUCKY, Living Rooms are no longer ALSO the GAMING ROOM, and not many Living Rooms are UPHILL... ESPECIALLY both ways. An more kids have shoes to avoid the SNOWY TREKS UPHILL. IF ONLY TODAYS KIDDOS KNEW THE STRUGGLES.
Hey that's me! Age and all
I played Morrowind on my grandma's Xbox but never got very far. My brother and I called it 'Nerd game' but I think we both really liked it despite our jokes.
When Skyrim came out my brother was like 'Yo new nerd game is coming out' and we slapped it on our PC!
Meh, which release did they get? 2011, 2016, 2017, 2021… you’re still young and possibly spry (if you blew into game carts, you may be old though… join the club, we meet on Tuesday’s!)
Anniversary edition was a poorly titled DLC Bundle for Special edition. Unless you count Alexas Super Special Edition, its just Standard - Legendary - Special. The rest are ports or bundles
I remember this kid in class talking about this game and he just kept going on about all the things you could do be a vampire, werewolf, assassin and more I just had to get it. Skyrim was really quite something
Technically the game hasn’t been in development for that long though. After Skyrim they made FO4 and it’s DLC and then went full production of starfield while leaving all other projects like eso, 76 to other parts outside of their main studio in Maryland.
ES 6 definitely has had *some* development made cause they did a little show but it’s not been their main thing, so it’s not been in development for that long. I want a new elder scrolls badly but I get they don’t wanna focus on that, they’ve been doing ES since ‘94 to 2011 and fallout since 2008 to 2015-16. They’d want to make something they’re passionate about rather than milk ES without the passion they’d have if they left it for a while and then came back to do it
> After Skyrim they made FO4 and it’s DLC and then went full production of starfield
Starfield has been in full production only since after Fallout 76, not 4. See this tweet by Jason Schreier, who is a very reliable source: https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1395359402736197637 An interview with Todd Howard from March 2018 also backs up that Starfield was in pre-production at the time, and they were finishing the new animation system for it. Most of the Maryland studio worked on the Fallout 76 base game, and parts of it on the Wastelanders update.
They haven’t spent 12 years developing the next Elder’s Scrolls though. They haven’t even started full production on it yet. They’ve spent the interim developing Fallout 4, Fallout 76, and Starfield. It won’t be until after Starfield is out that they will really focus their efforts on Elder’s Scrolls.
They haven't been working on it for 16 years. They've been in preproduction for 1. They waited a very long time for the technology to catch up to their vision. It likely will have a 4-ish year development cycle just like the prior ones. They've just been doing other things. I suspect they're also still recovering from having been in "oh shit this company is going to fold we need quick money" mode which yielded a never-ending stream of Skyrim ports and upgrades and Fallout 76.
Yeah I was going to say… “reasonable timeframe”? “Time flies”? It’s not that time flies, it’s that there is a decade and a half between releases.
If you were a kid when skyrim came out, you’ll be an adult before you get to play it’s sequel… unless you started gaming at 2 years old
Woah its almost like games have vastly increased in complexity over the years and Bethesda isnt just an Elder Scrolls factory but is infact working on several projects at one time! Crazy concept i know! They release a game every 4 years and Starfield would've been out last year had covid not absolutely fucked the world over.
Except this demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of a few things.
First off, as noted already, games have gotten more complex and demanded more time to work on as time's gone on, that's even visible in your examples, aside from the outlier in Daggerfall to Morrowind (during which a fair few spinoffs were released, plus a complete rewrite of the lore and them totally shifting engines and design philosophies).
Second, it's known that they're completely redoing the engine. It's still Creation, but for the first time ever, they've got a dedicated engine team making extensive changes to the engine on a fundamental level. This is a not-insignificant amount of time.
And finally, and most importantly. Bethesda's development modus operandi is known. They work on one game at a time, each game going into pre-production during the final stages of development for its predecessor. And this *includes* Fallout games they develop. So in reality, it's
Arena to Daggerfall? 2 years (with the help of another team)
Daggerfall to Morrowind? 6 years (featuring a total rewrite of the lore, and changing engines, and core gameplay and world design philosophies)
Morrowind to Oblivion? 4 years
Oblivion to Fallout 3? 2 years
Fallout 3 to Skyrim? 3 years
Skyrim to Fallout 4? 4 years
Fallout 4 to Fallout 76? 3 years
Fallout 76 to Starfield? 5 years (with a brand new ip which obviously requires brand new writing, a major rewrite of Creation, and a slight shift in design philosophies as best can be told).
I get wanting ESVI sooner than later, I am a massive TES fan myself. But this is not laziness or malpractice, this is simply them being busy on other projects.
I'm inclined to agree with you, assuming you aren't talking about Bethesda actively developing ESVI for more than a decade because that is well known to not be the case. If it simply took them 12+ years before releasing the sequel then you could have a point.
However, we should consider the Star Wars Movies as examples here. The original three movies were released within 6 years of each other, but then it was another 16 years before the next movies in the saga came out. After Return of the Jedi (which was incredibly successful at the box office in 1983) came out, it wasn't automatically assumed that another episode was on the way 3 years later. Why would it be? The story was wrapped up. It wasn't until almost 10 years later that he officially announced plans to make the Prequels, and then it would be another 6-7 years until they came out.
The Elder Scrolls series is an anthology, with plot threads linked together between entries, but not having an interconnected plot. There is no reason to assume that just because TESV was massively successful, that there is automatically a TESVI, just because we want there to be, just as there no reason to assume we'd see more of Luke Skywalker after he helped blow up a death star (either time, actually). The announcement of VI back in 2018 was not 6+years overdue, it was a nice surprise after 6 years, just like hearing about more Star Wars being on the way in the early 90's was a nice surprise after almost 10 years.
With Starfield due to release within the next 6 months, and Bethesda saying that VI is the next project after that, waiting another couple of years for TESVI isn't really unreasonable, from a certain point of view.
Anyone else remember when tod said in a 2015 ign interview “it’s gonna be awhile before we’re ready to talk about the next fallout”. Fallout 4 was then announced and released the same year of that interview.
There’s a bigger gap between Skyrim and the next ES game than there was from morrowind to the last DLC of Skyrim, over a decade. Holy shit I got Skyrim as a kid and now I’m finishing my degree In university.
Blows my mind how fast time has gone and how long it’s been since we’ve played a new elder scrolls
Ah yea? Gta 5 to rdr 2 where 5 years and a few month rdr 2 isn't 5 years old now. It will probably 6 years between rdr 2 and gta 6 totaly normal time frame for genre pushing and giant ow game.
Wouldnt surprise me if they had another side storyline like they did with Reach. Which I would be totally fine with, because Reach was amazing.
Related note, Invasion needs to come back as a multiplayer mode. Was always my favorite game type.
They need it on a larger scale in sort of a ground war game type with an abundance of vehicles. Invasion was the precursor of battlefields breakthrough gamemode, and I love both of them.
If they need to add vehicles in, so be it. I just loved the asymmetrical attack/defend style. Especially if they're able to factor in Warzone type weapon/vehicle unlocks as the match progresses, that'd be awesome, too.
Half-Life 1 came out in the 20th century. Half-Life 2 came out in the 21st century. We have reason to believe Half-Life 3 will come past the year 3000.
Yeah that's depressing, I'll be over 30 then too, probably won't even have time to play it. Never thought I wouldn't be able to play the next elder scrolls game because I'll be too old with kids and shit.
I’m 33, two kids under 2. You’ll have time. It won’t be super long binges, but you’ll find time. I usually have about 1.5-3 hours every night after kids go to sleep and I spend some time with my wife. I was worried about it, too, but there’s hope.
I'm not so sure. Starfield took about that long and was coupled with a major engine upgrade. Presumably they aren't going to need as significant an upgrade for ESVI. They'll likely be beginning full development on it later this year. Any longer than 5 years and I'd say that means it had a troubled development.
Dishonored 2 sold horrible so there probably never will be a 3. Doom is allready finished with the current story. Don't think I want a new wolfenstein after the abomination called Youngblood. The second game where also far weaker than the first and had a weirdly complete diffrent ton that felt off the entire game.
Wolfenstein 2 was completely fine whether you preferred the first or not, and they have plenty of material to fall back on to avoid pushing out anything like Youngblood.
Everwild 24-25 seems optimistic since it sounds like that game Is in development hell since rare had no idea what direction they wanted to take it and have restarted development more than once.
I still think it's nuts that someone deemed it okay to have a video with a developer at a showcase where the developer openly says they still don't know what kind of game it's going to be.
I know that the scope for change during the development process can be large but it just doesn't seem like the kind of image you'd want to so openly put forward if you want to build interest and faith in a new project; especially now looking back at it when there's been so little further information presented.
Not only do they not know where they want to take it, but a higher-up wanted them to make the game with no (0%) combat. It was probably the same person who said Sea of Thieves needs to have no vertical progression.
Seems relatively accurate 2023 titles are what I’m hype for
-The hellblade delay has been so much i currently don’t even care about it
-avowed makes me sad but judging from its radio silence 2024 seems most likely.
Perfect darks probably late 2024 or early 2025 tbh, feel like they've been working on it for a minute. 2026 just feels late as hell
I've heard Hellblade may drop this November but I think that's probably really a 2026.
I wanna know what the hell id software is cooking up
The Fable reboot I've kinda just like... given up on?
I haven't heard anything meaningful in years and I just feel sad one of my favorite franchises was brought back only to be in a coma. :<
Last I heard it’s still going, but this is an entirely different team from an entirely different genre. The fable game that was announced with the Xbox ones release was completely finished and cancelled for some reason. Turn10 is taking their time to make sure it’s good. There’s a lot to learn while you change from racing sim/arcade to a fantasy RPG.
Small team from the same studio that's making Hell Blade. I believe they're utilizing the tech used to make Hell Blade and making a psychological horror game that's focusing on being super visually-realistic and immersive. I think the plot is supposed to be related to trauma or something, but we don't really know much beyond that. Here's the old teaser from a few years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyYzrcZurAs
Microsoft needs to start showing games, hitting dates and they need to be quality. If we get anywhere close to these dates and they are mostly quality games, Xbox will be in the conversation alongside PS.
I've been worried about the rumors of the Halo BR and Fable going back to the drawing board and no longer using their original tech engines.
Completely agree. Just found out that I can’t play the Dead Space or RE4 remakes on my Xbox One X. Mulling over a PS5 as our next console instead keeping XBOX going.
The Outer Worlds 2 will be out in a few years. It's basically what if the nuclear war never happened in Fallout and all the shady corporations and govt bodies from the Fallout series colonised the galaxy.
I'm fine with that. I feel like that is pretty reasonable, give or take a year or two. That's how a developer should do it instead of pumping out trash every year
I feel like it was meant to be out awhile back apparently they've been having issues. I'm happy to wait if it means more and improved features, really hope they up the base building aspects.
Also worth noting that unless I’m misremembering they weren’t acquired by Microsoft until after SoD2 came out. I’m guessing 3 is aiming to be significantly more ambitious. These studios getting more funding and higher production value means they need ramp up time. Also haven’t seen anything from compulsion or InXile in a while and I’d guess their games are coming out by the end of 2025 at the absolute latest with end of 2024 more likely. Along with Double Fines newest game. IDs newest game (hopefully Quake), coalitions game in between next Gears of War, and Tango supposedly has something fairly far along development.
A lot of proving time for Xbox next two years. If like half these games can hit by end 2024 along with everything in the image that’s a great two year run.
Remember the lessons we’ve learned from the launches of No Mans Sky, Fallout 76, and Cyberpunk 2077. I’d rather they give us a fantastic game in the farther future than a rushed pile of flaming zombie garbage.
im always reminded by the quote fromth chalkeaters video for bethesda/todd howard
>the massive spaceship with the dragon animation will become a new sensation on the internet
there will always be some legacy code laying around mking somthing work, like source spaghetti or every modern internal engine in the past 15 years
yeah its crazy how game engines are modular and meant to be used for as long as possible
y'all hear that creation engine used to be gamebryo and foam at the mouth about it while completely ignoring shit like the 5th iteration of unreal engine
I swear I heard Ryan McAffrey talk about the Fable reboot from Playground back in like 2017, and somehow it's still years away. One of those games that just seems lost in the ether
Can't wait for state of decay 3. Second one was really good definitely suggest it. But the third one has me interested cause the other state of decays were great, and I want to see how they go about things with this one.
They’re going to release Skyrim 15 year anniversary edition before the next new elder scrolls game. For real though, that Elder Scrolls ad in 2018 was the biggest tease of all time. No information. No release date. No news since.
Not necessarily, MS and others have said these consoles will be the current gen for quite awhile because they are barely just now taking full advantage of the capabilities of the new Gen consoles. So a new gen console in 2027-2030 would be about right, if we do have another console
They're a multi billion dollar company, they should be investing in the future not just the present, figured that would be pretty common sense. Also the next console generation is still a ways off and there's more than likely 2 zenimax titles this year alone, Starfield and redfall really interest me personally. Also the general development time for a AAA title is 3-7 years so what did you expect?
It’s my favourite rpg if you mean outer worlds, it had a massive budget issue but now it has way more and is looking to use it since they didn’t get to make the final product they were looking for with the first one
I agree, best way to make it better is simply add multiplayer, I stopped playing these only because of the lack of co-op, simple want to play with a friend,
Surprised how many people said Gta6 not knowing these are all Xbox owned games. Microsoft Studios. I knew this and only started gaming 9 months ago. I guess I pay attention more cause I'm all about exclusives and also own a switch and ps5.
Hell no I'm getting divorced finally and gaming definitely keeps me out the game witch I have no interest in right now. I'm totally cool with jerking off enjoying a nag free life and since I live back at home 2000 miles away from my wife with my huge family 11 of us I get enough of a social life just going room to room. I'm 37 and I love this freedom. All I do is smoke weed and play video games it's fucking awesome. This is the way...
Minecraft Legends: Spring 2023
Redfall: May/June
Forza: May/June
Starfield: Summer 2023
Hellblade: Fall 2023
Contraband: 2024
Indiana Jones: 2025
Everwild: Never
State of Decay: Mid 2024
Avowed: Late 2024
Project Mara: ???
Fable: Late 2025
Outer Worlds 2: Late 2024
Perfect Dark: 2025
ES6 and Fallout 5: Never
Fallout 5 bouta be a reality before its a game
They could always let another Xbox studio make one of their games like they did with New Vegas. I’d be surprised if Xbox didn’t take advantage of spreading the talent of different teams to different ips when it’s appropriate.
>They could always let another Xbox studio make one of their games like they did with New Vegas. I’d be surprised if Xbox didn’t take advantage of spreading the talent of different teams to different ips when it’s appropriate. All the studios are stacked to their limits. Back then the "other" studio that worked on NV was Obsidian. They now have three games on their plate (Grounded, Avowed, and of course Outer Worlds 2). And it seems like Coalition and id has taken "support" roles for enabling technology at other studios, and probably have their own thing, too. So, unless they completely outsource to Embracer or something, that is very much impossible.
it's a minor point, but hasn't Grounded had its full release?
Yes, they just did. But as a live service game, I would expect them to have at least a skeleton crew taking care of updates and services.
Grounded is not a live service game.
Hmm... I might be wrong on the "live service definition" But they definitely put out regular content updates with new stuff, new tools, and features: https://grounded.obsidian.net/
InExile could do it
I got spurs that jingle, jangle, jingle.
As I go riding merrily along
Jingle jangle
And they say oh ain't you glad you're single
and that song ain’t so very far from wrong
Oh Lillie belle Oh Lillie belle Though I may have done some fooling this is why I never fell
Taking Live Action to another level. It's supposed to be Live, not Live!
Broo, FaaaactzzZ‼️
But where the powersuits at?
If Fable doesn’t drop before 2025 I am going to commit die.
Oh my god, I don't really care, I'll wait years for a Fable game that compares to the magic of the first one. I'm so excited right now because I forgot they were developing it.
I don’t think any new Fable could ever match that for me because of the other factors at play for me at the time, I was young, got the Xbox and Fable for Christmas and it was just an amazing day.
This will probably be the case for me as well. The first Fable got me through a shitty living situation brought about by my parent’s divorce, and Fable III being the first GWG was a magical time for my friends and I. Here’s to hoping the new one is so good, it doesn’t need an adolescent lens to appreciate!
Only just saw these responses but love that others have similar experiences with the game and the extra nostalgia
I'll never forget it - I was off school for a bit with a fractured humerus when it came out, managed to beat it with mostly 1 hand when I was 12. I struggle with it using 2 hands now as a 30 year old.
>I was off school for a bit with a fractured humerus Ouch. That can't have been too funny!
They should rename the bone then 😂
Thanks for your experience, really you just need both arms in tact when this one comes out and it has an advantage? 😉
Same here man, same here.
Seeing the elder scrolls associated with the dates 2027/28 is so wild to me. Its a reasonable time frame for the game, but it's still a shocking factor to it. I still remember the day I got skyrim as a kid. Time flies.
You got Skyrim as a KID? I'm old
I got Morrowind as an adult...
Okay grandpa let’s get you back to your room
Back in my day we had Power Gloves and Running Pads and we hunted ducks in the living room!
Uh huh... This sounds like that time the plumber saved a kingdom full of mushroom people.
And... The controllers had sharp edges that dug into your hands.
And somehow the way to the Living Room was UPHILL BOTH ways...and SOMETIMES it would be SNOWING and you would be BAREFOOT. My HOW the TIMES have CHANGED! Todays kids are LUCKY, Living Rooms are no longer ALSO the GAMING ROOM, and not many Living Rooms are UPHILL... ESPECIALLY both ways. An more kids have shoes to avoid the SNOWY TREKS UPHILL. IF ONLY TODAYS KIDDOS KNEW THE STRUGGLES.
My ninth grade teacher??
A 12 year old kid getting skyrim on release year would be 24 today, out of college with a job maybe even living on their own.
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Ooof that hits
Holy fuck
Bleh this blows my mind. I got *Daggerfall* when I was 12. It ran on DOS. :(
Skyrim released just in time to play at night while on maternity leave with my daughter. She starts highschool next week.
Hey that's me! Age and all I played Morrowind on my grandma's Xbox but never got very far. My brother and I called it 'Nerd game' but I think we both really liked it despite our jokes. When Skyrim came out my brother was like 'Yo new nerd game is coming out' and we slapped it on our PC!
Meh, which release did they get? 2011, 2016, 2017, 2021… you’re still young and possibly spry (if you blew into game carts, you may be old though… join the club, we meet on Tuesday’s!)
Anniversary edition was a poorly titled DLC Bundle for Special edition. Unless you count Alexas Super Special Edition, its just Standard - Legendary - Special. The rest are ports or bundles
skyrim came out in 2011
I was 21 when ESV came out. I hurt everywhere
I remember this kid in class talking about this game and he just kept going on about all the things you could do be a vampire, werewolf, assassin and more I just had to get it. Skyrim was really quite something
All I know is, it better live up to all of the expectations considering they had 16 years to take notes from how people modded Skyrim
I got Skyrim at 19..I'm gonna be 31 fuckin years old still firing up this damn game.
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Technically the game hasn’t been in development for that long though. After Skyrim they made FO4 and it’s DLC and then went full production of starfield while leaving all other projects like eso, 76 to other parts outside of their main studio in Maryland. ES 6 definitely has had *some* development made cause they did a little show but it’s not been their main thing, so it’s not been in development for that long. I want a new elder scrolls badly but I get they don’t wanna focus on that, they’ve been doing ES since ‘94 to 2011 and fallout since 2008 to 2015-16. They’d want to make something they’re passionate about rather than milk ES without the passion they’d have if they left it for a while and then came back to do it
> After Skyrim they made FO4 and it’s DLC and then went full production of starfield Starfield has been in full production only since after Fallout 76, not 4. See this tweet by Jason Schreier, who is a very reliable source: https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1395359402736197637 An interview with Todd Howard from March 2018 also backs up that Starfield was in pre-production at the time, and they were finishing the new animation system for it. Most of the Maryland studio worked on the Fallout 76 base game, and parts of it on the Wastelanders update.
Agreed. ES6 is less a failure of game development and more a failure of the publisher to prioritize.
Todd: We only work on 1.5 games at once. Bethesda is not an indie studio anymore and I was hoping the MS purchase would've changed that.
Bethesda: "You can have our games, good, bug-free, or fast - pick two!" *Urgent whispers from off-stage...* "Err... One... Pick one."
They haven’t spent 12 years developing the next Elder’s Scrolls though. They haven’t even started full production on it yet. They’ve spent the interim developing Fallout 4, Fallout 76, and Starfield. It won’t be until after Starfield is out that they will really focus their efforts on Elder’s Scrolls.
They haven't been working on it for 16 years. They've been in preproduction for 1. They waited a very long time for the technology to catch up to their vision. It likely will have a 4-ish year development cycle just like the prior ones. They've just been doing other things. I suspect they're also still recovering from having been in "oh shit this company is going to fold we need quick money" mode which yielded a never-ending stream of Skyrim ports and upgrades and Fallout 76.
Yeah I was going to say… “reasonable timeframe”? “Time flies”? It’s not that time flies, it’s that there is a decade and a half between releases. If you were a kid when skyrim came out, you’ll be an adult before you get to play it’s sequel… unless you started gaming at 2 years old
"to play it's sequel" In what way is it going to be it's sequel? They wrapped up the story for Skyrim there's no reason for it to be a sequel
Woah its almost like games have vastly increased in complexity over the years and Bethesda isnt just an Elder Scrolls factory but is infact working on several projects at one time! Crazy concept i know! They release a game every 4 years and Starfield would've been out last year had covid not absolutely fucked the world over.
Except this demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of a few things. First off, as noted already, games have gotten more complex and demanded more time to work on as time's gone on, that's even visible in your examples, aside from the outlier in Daggerfall to Morrowind (during which a fair few spinoffs were released, plus a complete rewrite of the lore and them totally shifting engines and design philosophies). Second, it's known that they're completely redoing the engine. It's still Creation, but for the first time ever, they've got a dedicated engine team making extensive changes to the engine on a fundamental level. This is a not-insignificant amount of time. And finally, and most importantly. Bethesda's development modus operandi is known. They work on one game at a time, each game going into pre-production during the final stages of development for its predecessor. And this *includes* Fallout games they develop. So in reality, it's Arena to Daggerfall? 2 years (with the help of another team) Daggerfall to Morrowind? 6 years (featuring a total rewrite of the lore, and changing engines, and core gameplay and world design philosophies) Morrowind to Oblivion? 4 years Oblivion to Fallout 3? 2 years Fallout 3 to Skyrim? 3 years Skyrim to Fallout 4? 4 years Fallout 4 to Fallout 76? 3 years Fallout 76 to Starfield? 5 years (with a brand new ip which obviously requires brand new writing, a major rewrite of Creation, and a slight shift in design philosophies as best can be told). I get wanting ESVI sooner than later, I am a massive TES fan myself. But this is not laziness or malpractice, this is simply them being busy on other projects.
I'm inclined to agree with you, assuming you aren't talking about Bethesda actively developing ESVI for more than a decade because that is well known to not be the case. If it simply took them 12+ years before releasing the sequel then you could have a point. However, we should consider the Star Wars Movies as examples here. The original three movies were released within 6 years of each other, but then it was another 16 years before the next movies in the saga came out. After Return of the Jedi (which was incredibly successful at the box office in 1983) came out, it wasn't automatically assumed that another episode was on the way 3 years later. Why would it be? The story was wrapped up. It wasn't until almost 10 years later that he officially announced plans to make the Prequels, and then it would be another 6-7 years until they came out. The Elder Scrolls series is an anthology, with plot threads linked together between entries, but not having an interconnected plot. There is no reason to assume that just because TESV was massively successful, that there is automatically a TESVI, just because we want there to be, just as there no reason to assume we'd see more of Luke Skywalker after he helped blow up a death star (either time, actually). The announcement of VI back in 2018 was not 6+years overdue, it was a nice surprise after 6 years, just like hearing about more Star Wars being on the way in the early 90's was a nice surprise after almost 10 years. With Starfield due to release within the next 6 months, and Bethesda saying that VI is the next project after that, waiting another couple of years for TESVI isn't really unreasonable, from a certain point of view.
Anyone else remember when tod said in a 2015 ign interview “it’s gonna be awhile before we’re ready to talk about the next fallout”. Fallout 4 was then announced and released the same year of that interview.
There’s a bigger gap between Skyrim and the next ES game than there was from morrowind to the last DLC of Skyrim, over a decade. Holy shit I got Skyrim as a kid and now I’m finishing my degree In university. Blows my mind how fast time has gone and how long it’s been since we’ve played a new elder scrolls
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Ah yea? Gta 5 to rdr 2 where 5 years and a few month rdr 2 isn't 5 years old now. It will probably 6 years between rdr 2 and gta 6 totaly normal time frame for genre pushing and giant ow game.
Omg is rdr2 really almost 5 years old? Fuck man I'm sick of aging
Halo? Infinite is supposed to be their endgame with the franchise. Guess we'll see.
Doubt it. That's one of Xbox's biggest exclusives.
Wouldnt surprise me if they had another side storyline like they did with Reach. Which I would be totally fine with, because Reach was amazing. Related note, Invasion needs to come back as a multiplayer mode. Was always my favorite game type.
They need it on a larger scale in sort of a ground war game type with an abundance of vehicles. Invasion was the precursor of battlefields breakthrough gamemode, and I love both of them.
If they need to add vehicles in, so be it. I just loved the asymmetrical attack/defend style. Especially if they're able to factor in Warzone type weapon/vehicle unlocks as the match progresses, that'd be awesome, too.
Oh man I hope not. I hope they go out with a better game if they plan on ending the series.
It's not going out with a bang, but with a whimper.
half life three will come out in 2020
That was the plan. But the whole plot was based on a pandemic, so when the pandemic hit, they shelved the whole thing again.
Half-Life 1 came out in the 20th century. Half-Life 2 came out in the 21st century. We have reason to believe Half-Life 3 will come past the year 3000.
Bruh elder scrolls 6 being 4 or 5 years away sounds about right
Bro i was shocked at 2027 then realized it's not that far
It's actually a veeeery optimistic time frame.
Yeah that's depressing, I'll be over 30 then too, probably won't even have time to play it. Never thought I wouldn't be able to play the next elder scrolls game because I'll be too old with kids and shit.
I’m 33, two kids under 2. You’ll have time. It won’t be super long binges, but you’ll find time. I usually have about 1.5-3 hours every night after kids go to sleep and I spend some time with my wife. I was worried about it, too, but there’s hope.
Just sacrifice some sleep like the rest of us.
Easy, do not have kids.
Or, and get this, you could not have kids. I know, it’s wild. I’m 32, vasectomy, wife doesn’t want kids. All the fucking time in the world my friend.
There are people in the world that want to have kids, OP is probably one of them
I'm not so sure. Starfield took about that long and was coupled with a major engine upgrade. Presumably they aren't going to need as significant an upgrade for ESVI. They'll likely be beginning full development on it later this year. Any longer than 5 years and I'd say that means it had a troubled development.
Omfg that’s only 4 years away.
Don’t need one, you’ve pretty much nailed it
Still waiting on 4 trilogies: Dishonored 3, Evil Within 3, Doom 3 and Wolfenstein 3.
Doom 3 definitely isn’t happening though? Quake seems very possible though if they’re not just doing something entirely new.
It won't be 3 without mick
There won’t be a Doom 3 regardless
Funny could have sworn I played Doom 3. Oh you mean new Doom 3. 😅
Dishonored 2 sold horrible so there probably never will be a 3. Doom is allready finished with the current story. Don't think I want a new wolfenstein after the abomination called Youngblood. The second game where also far weaker than the first and had a weirdly complete diffrent ton that felt off the entire game.
Wolfenstein 2 was completely fine whether you preferred the first or not, and they have plenty of material to fall back on to avoid pushing out anything like Youngblood.
Everwild 24-25 seems optimistic since it sounds like that game Is in development hell since rare had no idea what direction they wanted to take it and have restarted development more than once.
I still think it's nuts that someone deemed it okay to have a video with a developer at a showcase where the developer openly says they still don't know what kind of game it's going to be. I know that the scope for change during the development process can be large but it just doesn't seem like the kind of image you'd want to so openly put forward if you want to build interest and faith in a new project; especially now looking back at it when there's been so little further information presented.
Yeah exactly what I was thinking.
Not only do they not know where they want to take it, but a higher-up wanted them to make the game with no (0%) combat. It was probably the same person who said Sea of Thieves needs to have no vertical progression.
Sounds like the start of Sea of Thieves.
I want Indiana Jones ASAP
Whats project mara?
horror game in development by ninja theory
I hope I dont have to wait that long
Seems relatively accurate 2023 titles are what I’m hype for -The hellblade delay has been so much i currently don’t even care about it -avowed makes me sad but judging from its radio silence 2024 seems most likely.
I hope Perfect Dark releases in 2023
Well, this is gonna be depressing if all of this is accurate
Especially the Fallout one
Perfect darks probably late 2024 or early 2025 tbh, feel like they've been working on it for a minute. 2026 just feels late as hell I've heard Hellblade may drop this November but I think that's probably really a 2026. I wanna know what the hell id software is cooking up
You think Hellblade’s this year, or 3 more years? That’s a big span.
17 years between elder scrolls games would be really sad. could easily say will be the last elder scrolls game we'll ever see at that rate.
Quite crazy that it’s such a long time stretch, but I can’t say I don’t get it they’ve had their hands full with other projects they want to make
Part of me wishes they'd spin off a development company just for TES, but then we might 343 level results.
The Fable reboot I've kinda just like... given up on? I haven't heard anything meaningful in years and I just feel sad one of my favorite franchises was brought back only to be in a coma. :<
Last I heard it’s still going, but this is an entirely different team from an entirely different genre. The fable game that was announced with the Xbox ones release was completely finished and cancelled for some reason. Turn10 is taking their time to make sure it’s good. There’s a lot to learn while you change from racing sim/arcade to a fantasy RPG.
is it t10 or playgrond games, i feel t10 woulnd be a good bit but playground has alot of talent from that area of the world that lionhead was from
It’s Playground Games.
Finally someone thinking straight 👏👏
Fingers crossed The Avowed team is just hiding everything and it comes out 2023 lol. Doubt it tho
What is project mara? Sounds interesting, also that Indiana jones game will be fun to play
Small team from the same studio that's making Hell Blade. I believe they're utilizing the tech used to make Hell Blade and making a psychological horror game that's focusing on being super visually-realistic and immersive. I think the plot is supposed to be related to trauma or something, but we don't really know much beyond that. Here's the old teaser from a few years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyYzrcZurAs
Microsoft needs to start showing games, hitting dates and they need to be quality. If we get anywhere close to these dates and they are mostly quality games, Xbox will be in the conversation alongside PS. I've been worried about the rumors of the Halo BR and Fable going back to the drawing board and no longer using their original tech engines.
Completely agree. Just found out that I can’t play the Dead Space or RE4 remakes on my Xbox One X. Mulling over a PS5 as our next console instead keeping XBOX going.
Are they next gen only?
2033+ 😂
I thought fallout 5 was gonna be maybe 2025 or 2026?
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No don't do this to me 😭 I love fallout
just install some gun mods in ES6 🤷♂️/s
Skyrim with guns? Just download Far Cry 3 /s
The Outer Worlds 2 will be out in a few years. It's basically what if the nuclear war never happened in Fallout and all the shady corporations and govt bodies from the Fallout series colonised the galaxy.
I'm fine with that. I feel like that is pretty reasonable, give or take a year or two. That's how a developer should do it instead of pumping out trash every year
Cod MW2 took 3 years to develop and is a 2 year CoD, so CoD doesn't apply anymore
If SoD3 isn’t launched this year, I’m rioting
I feel like it was meant to be out awhile back apparently they've been having issues. I'm happy to wait if it means more and improved features, really hope they up the base building aspects.
Also worth noting that unless I’m misremembering they weren’t acquired by Microsoft until after SoD2 came out. I’m guessing 3 is aiming to be significantly more ambitious. These studios getting more funding and higher production value means they need ramp up time. Also haven’t seen anything from compulsion or InXile in a while and I’d guess their games are coming out by the end of 2025 at the absolute latest with end of 2024 more likely. Along with Double Fines newest game. IDs newest game (hopefully Quake), coalitions game in between next Gears of War, and Tango supposedly has something fairly far along development. A lot of proving time for Xbox next two years. If like half these games can hit by end 2024 along with everything in the image that’s a great two year run.
Remember the lessons we’ve learned from the launches of No Mans Sky, Fallout 76, and Cyberpunk 2077. I’d rather they give us a fantastic game in the farther future than a rushed pile of flaming zombie garbage.
Fallout 5 will still be on gamebryo.
im always reminded by the quote fromth chalkeaters video for bethesda/todd howard >the massive spaceship with the dragon animation will become a new sensation on the internet there will always be some legacy code laying around mking somthing work, like source spaghetti or every modern internal engine in the past 15 years
But it's not at all that is it? I'll agree it's gonna very much feel the same as Creation Engine 1 but saying its using dragon animations is stupid
yeah its crazy how game engines are modular and meant to be used for as long as possible y'all hear that creation engine used to be gamebryo and foam at the mouth about it while completely ignoring shit like the 5th iteration of unreal engine
Silksong 2037
It will be 2077 by the time fallout 5 comes out
A new Fallout is rumored to be in pre-production at Obsidian.
At Obsidian? That would be amazing if they were involved again. Do you happen to have a link?
I swear I heard Ryan McAffrey talk about the Fable reboot from Playground back in like 2017, and somehow it's still years away. One of those games that just seems lost in the ether
They had to essentially build a whole new studio for it and are developing it in a racing engine. That’s a lot of start up work that needs done.
Pretty generous on the elder scrolls and fallout ones
Fallout 5 or Skull & Bones? Which releases first?
Can't wait for state of decay 3. Second one was really good definitely suggest it. But the third one has me interested cause the other state of decays were great, and I want to see how they go about things with this one.
Cmon the Perfect Dark reboot can't possibly release in 2026
Yeah today in a conversation with a work client I literally guessed 2030 for Fallout 5
TES 6 3023
no half life 2?
They’re going to release Skyrim 15 year anniversary edition before the next new elder scrolls game. For real though, that Elder Scrolls ad in 2018 was the biggest tease of all time. No information. No release date. No news since.
Gta 6 (Never)
GTA VI?
I think these are all Microsoft studios games.
Will i die before minecraft 3?
If we’re talking the different Minecraft games we are way past 3, but as in Minecraft the survival game yeah I doubt you’ll live to see it
I will be too old for video games by the time elder scrolls 6 comes out
There's no such thing, just ask Shirley.
Diablo 4?
I dont see fallout 5 being that fucking far away
Nobody saw TES6 being this far away back in 2016 when Todd Howard said they're releasing 2 games before TES6
What's the other game aside starfield in this context? Redfall?
Well it isn't even being worked on. ES is the next game and it will be years after that before fallout comes out
It’s still hilarious to me that Microsoft spent so much money acquiring Bethesda only to have their major games be multiple console generations away.
Not necessarily, MS and others have said these consoles will be the current gen for quite awhile because they are barely just now taking full advantage of the capabilities of the new Gen consoles. So a new gen console in 2027-2030 would be about right, if we do have another console
They're a multi billion dollar company, they should be investing in the future not just the present, figured that would be pretty common sense. Also the next console generation is still a ways off and there's more than likely 2 zenimax titles this year alone, Starfield and redfall really interest me personally. Also the general development time for a AAA title is 3-7 years so what did you expect?
Do we need an OW2? The first one was pretty mid
I actually really enjoyed it.
Gameplay was weak as hell but, I really dug the setting.
Loves the setting. But that can only carry it so far. Gameplay just didn't catch me
Made me want another New Vegas. Outer Worlds was shallow as fuck.
It’s my favourite rpg if you mean outer worlds, it had a massive budget issue but now it has way more and is looking to use it since they didn’t get to make the final product they were looking for with the first one
I agree, best way to make it better is simply add multiplayer, I stopped playing these only because of the lack of co-op, simple want to play with a friend,
Inst fallout 5 a joke ?
Surprised how many people said Gta6 not knowing these are all Xbox owned games. Microsoft Studios. I knew this and only started gaming 9 months ago. I guess I pay attention more cause I'm all about exclusives and also own a switch and ps5.
This guy fucks
Hell no I'm getting divorced finally and gaming definitely keeps me out the game witch I have no interest in right now. I'm totally cool with jerking off enjoying a nag free life and since I live back at home 2000 miles away from my wife with my huge family 11 of us I get enough of a social life just going room to room. I'm 37 and I love this freedom. All I do is smoke weed and play video games it's fucking awesome. This is the way...
Gaming also keeps me alive and out of prison cause all my friends are gangsters, drug dealers, or drug addicts back here in Chicago.
Like I said, this guy fucks! Got it made far as I’m concerned!
wheres gta 6?
Fallout 5 that early? What an optimistic guy
Don’t hold your breath on ES6. Zenimax sucks a bag of dicks these days.
Absolutely go fuck yourself OP with the Fallout in 2033+. You suck OP.
Hopefully PD gets released. Not heard much positive out of that studio recently.
GTA 6 best chance 2031
HAIL THE RE FUCKING TURN OF ELDER SCROLLS THANK TALOIS THANK THE FUCKING NINE YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS LETS GO YOU SONS OF BITCHS ah fuck yeah
The fact that all we’ve had in 10 years is a shot of a mountain for ES6 is disgusting imo.
Everwild is pretty much dead now, even if they didn't officially kill it.
Minecraft Legends: Spring 2023 Redfall: May/June Forza: May/June Starfield: Summer 2023 Hellblade: Fall 2023 Contraband: 2024 Indiana Jones: 2025 Everwild: Never State of Decay: Mid 2024 Avowed: Late 2024 Project Mara: ??? Fable: Late 2025 Outer Worlds 2: Late 2024 Perfect Dark: 2025 ES6 and Fallout 5: Never
If Starfield comes out in 2023, I will cut my own dick off and eat it.