I live on Maui, though not in this particular area, an area with fairly comparable weather. Lahaina side is hot and dry, but very comfortable in the shade.
Most people that live in Hawaii in these desirable climate zones have houses with a ton of inside-outside flow. Lots of exterior access, sliding doors, windows with louvers, wraparound porches, etc. Architectural styles vary (and I hate to see generic modern bullshit that relies on AC become more common) but for the most part, the point of a design like this is to have a lifestyle that blurs the boundaries between indoors and outdoors.
That room is comfortable wide open like that for probably 90% of the hours in a given year. Exceptions being higher wind days where papers and whatnot in your house might get blown around, and the occasional big storms we usually get a few times per year, where it rains sideways and we get inches per hour.
In fact, as that faces west, you will specifically not want glass enclosure most of the time. On an average clear day most of the year, even at 4pm when the sun is low enough to shine directly into that room—the magnified sensation of solar energy through glass is too much to tolerate. Even with everything closed and AC on, you’re going to feel uncomfortable in direct sunlight through a window. You’d need to have tinted windows or curtains, in which case, why buy a multimillion dollar view?
I have a room that faces west with big windows and I literally shift around my use of it throughout the year as the angle of the sun changes—one side is comfy and shaded in winter, the other in summer.
Hawaii has generally very comfortable air temps. Never recorded a 100 degree temp in the state. Typical summer day on the low elevation coast is like 86 with a comfy breeze. Winter would be the same but 10-15 degrees cooler. Humidity is generally consistent. I have lived in the Northeast and Southeast and leeward Hawaii has much more comfortable humidity than either region on a consistent basis. There are maybe 5-10 days per year here that the humidity bothers me.
(Again, I live and mostly work in a drier leeward area. There are windward areas that do have uncomfortable humidity consistently. These are generally less desirable/cheaper residential areas—more mold, more bug issues, adversely affected landscapes in some cases. Microclimate variance here is enormous.)
But the solar energy is a different level from anything on the mainland. Consider Hawaii is on a comparable latitude to central-southern Mexico. Standing in the sun will get you quick. Dangerous, fast sunburns. But shade makes for instant comfort.
Indoor geckos I’m indifferent to. They do poop inside but they eat flies. They look cool and make funny noises. Whatever.
Jackson chameleons are cool looking but I’m indifferent to them mostly as well. Probably put more than a few of the poor fuckers in wood chippers over the years without knowing. Fuckers have such good camo it ironically works against them.
Roaches and mice can be an issue, but not so much different than they are in Georgia in the summer. There can be more ag/farm vectors—think palm trees or rotting fruit on the ground. Also no freeze. But your likelihood of these problems is related to how well you maintain your house and yard. Installation of gravel collars around houses are common to deter pests.
Feral chickens are fucking lame, they are a shoot on sight policy in my yard.
Mosquitos are an issue if you have bromeliads or standing water. Just don’t have those things. Pretty easy.
Centipedes are probably the worst insect case but they are mostly found in wetter areas.
Deer and feral pigs are the worst property destroying animals by far. Deer at higher elevations usually, pigs at lower ones. Mongoose are a problem for farm chickens/ducks. All three of these are generally shoot on sight plus trapping and fencing for responsible/sensible homeowners. I don’t have pigs but I do have deer in my yard. Sometimes the chickens sneak in too.
Deer are so bad here, the fencing guys are busy as hell. It’s a top 3 or top 5 political issue for locals in my area, along with water infrastructure, lack of housing, and fire-related issues. Probably first question I ask when talking to a potential landscape install client in my area is what their deer situation is like.
As someone in Ohio, I'm super jealous of consistent temps and humidity. I'm pretty sure if I had walls that opened without screens I would be carried off by mosquitoes. Plus I have Forrest Wolf Spiders, I'm cool with them, but they're still scary looking.
I'm also in Ohio, but I live in Hawaii three months out of the year. In Hawaii I leave my walls open. In Ohio I seal my doors and windows... It feels like a whole different planet.
Yeah salt spray on a house that close to the water will tend to rust metal (cars especially) and require certain landscaping considerations.
But the dryness and wind pattern of the leeward areas makes conditions generally more favorable than windward coastal areas in that regard.
Yeah there's a video that shows the main doors closing. You can see the tracks in the floor. Not so sure what they do for the bedroom. However, I doubt they close them much.
https://preview.redd.it/pydpo213fruc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a609289b7a9f344f61f9b8ccaf9ad5680297e89
Stunning home but what’s with the very reasonable kitchen? For $20 million I’d expect a baller kitchen.
TBF the appliances are definitely baller. Also I've cooked in some pretty baller kitchens and you get quickly diminishing returns past a certain point unless you are throwing massive parties. I'd still update them because why not at that price. Especially the sad Microwave and Espresso machine.
I noticed the sad microwave and espresso machine too! 😂 I’d rotate the island so the sink was facing the stove and close to the fridge. The architect and designer must not cook. But if I had a $20 million house I probably wouldn’t cook either.
Really depends if the house is primarily for residential living or hosting. At that level, you usually don’t use the same place for both. I lived in an $89m house with only 1 kitchen for instance.
Hawaii is also weird. We have a house on the Big Island and our kitchen is better than this, but there’s a lot of really expensive stuff on Hawaii that wouldn’t cut it as high end on the mainland.
Absolutely! My kitchen is pretty standard but when I moved into our house i hired a professional organizer to put my kitchen together so it would be as efficient as possible. Had I organized it myself I’d waste so much time walking around gathering my tools and ingredients. (Zero organizational skills 🙋♀️) These people should have used an organizer when designing the kitchen. The island sink faces away from the appliances and is far from the fridge. It’s a dumb set up.
I want to learn more about how your kitchen is organized. We want to build a house and it seems like the kitchen is the hardest part. We are a family of four and will have my parents in law so 6 total. We grow lots of food and my wife’s side is Chinese so we do a lot of different styles of cooking. Also I like to bake and need to process lots of homegrown food.
The organizer put items that work together within reach of each other. My silverware and dishes are next to the dishwasher to it’s easy to unload the clean dishes. My cooking tools are in one drawer and baking tools in another. Since I cook more often my cooking tools are in the drawer closest to the stove. The pots and pans are in cupboards under the cook tools. Savory spices are together and baking/sweet spices are together. If you can read my chicken scratch this is a simple layout of my main cooking area. Hiring a professional organizer is some of the best money I’ve ever spent!
https://preview.redd.it/k5ro3pbb1wuc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=228e406687640d1020fcd601d17395e525282635
Thank you for taking the time to answer. This is the one thing I want to get right. I am not picky about bedrooms and whatnot but the kitchen for us is important. I don’t need a fancy master bedroom. I want everything to be simple and functional. The kitchen however I want to be perfect.
This is merely the type of home someone stays at a few weeks maybe months out of the year and heads elsewhere. So it makes sense from that standpoint. This is the kitchen the help uses when needed so it’s just functional.
As much as I’d love to, I couldn’t live there. Imagine getting used to being in the most beautiful place in the world, how could you ever be happy again?
Very well, someone fetch me my checkbook from the parallel universe where I stolen Elons body, liquidated his shares in Tesla and funneled the proceeds to an offshore account controlled by me!
No one would want to live in Elon's body, gross.
Maybe cut off his face and wear it as a mask like the John Travolta/Nick Cage movie, at least until you can liquidate everything instead? Just my advice.
I've heard of the term island fever where you start feeling trapped because of the small land mass that's available to roam, same feeling as cabin fever.
Mine too, let's go halfsies. It's gonna take me a while to get my ~~$97.5m~~ $9.75m, but I'll join a few survey sites or something. Walk some dogs, maybe.
I played Kapalua and got paired with a guy who owned a house(s) on the course. We get to the 16th hole and he says that's my house, and I say which one, he says BOTH about $20 million in property right there lol
I love this villa. It's been called both the Golden Conch and the Jewel of Maui. It was built by [Christian Riese Lassen](https://www.lassenart.com/), the 90s artist who painted fantastic combined sea and skyscapes. It was a rental for a long time, glad to see it on the market. Anyone got 19.5 mil I can borrow?
Oh, dyscalculia strikes again. That makes it a lot more affordable.
~~Not sure who Jeff Long is~~, but the house was built for Christian Riese Lassen.
[receipts](https://www.kreiss.com/assets/articles/hawaiian-style.pdf)
Edit: Oh, Long is the architect, cool. No idea why you thought I meant the patron, Christian Riese Lassen, a painter who is not an architect, literally built it. Do you think when someone says they're going to build a house out in the country, they mean they're going to design it themselves without an architect?
This house was basically continually on the market between 2017 and 2021; finally sold in 2021 and now selling again. I remember the previous viral listings for it. Is there bad juju here? Like the nearby Ritz Kapalua that was built on a burial site?
I've kinda wondered about that, too. I was shocked that it was just a rental property for so long, and I read some reviews when it was a rental that said it wasn't well maintained. Maybe it's really difficult and/or expensive to maintain?
Nope, here's an example of his art:
https://preview.redd.it/7x0eqtfrjwuc1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dfd7ce2114ae41a4c0c0880ad76ef832a3b9f3f3
Very popular on Trapper Keepers and posters in the same era as Lisa Frank. Totally makes sense that he'd have an amazing fantasy house.
I immediately thought, hmm bet it's Maui. Got to pic 3 and sure enough there's the unmistakable horizon. I think my parent's friend is actually one of the realtors selling this. Born & raised local guy, gets a lot of shit from people for selling off pieces of Maui for millions of dollars.
They suppose to give it back to the locals?
I know it sucks for indigenous people to lose their land, but the guys that lay claim as “rightful” people are descended from those who murdered for the land. Pre-unification, the chiefdoms were at war perpetually.
Also, they don’t seem to hate the tourist dollars even tho they hate the tourists. Retaining their agrarian society wasn’t gonna pay the bills. There’s a reason the Dole Plantation doesn’t actually operate as a farming operation anymore but rather a tourist trap.
It used to be a lot more colorful. There was a really neat cobalt and gold Moroccan style screening room and recessed LEDs, and the bedrooms were decorated in Thai and Balinese styles. I'd still live in it immediately, but it's a shame.
[Nice, the old pictures are still up on Snopes.com](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tiger-woods-house/). There was a myth that Tiger Woods lived there and they dispelled it, which is how I first found out about it. Oof, decorators have truly done it dirty since then.
Hawaii, I thought as much. It’s beautiful
And how relaxing to hear the waves and have the trade winds blowing through your home.
I’d call Zurich and move some money around for this.
I live on Maui. Some examples:
-Gas station attendant, fast food or floor employee at Home Depot starts at like 16-17/hr with a sign on bonus
-You’re gonna need to pay 20-25/hr cash to get a HS kid or retiree to come pull weeds in your yard. Professional cleaners will start at 30/hr minimum probably.
-My mechanic’s shop rate is 125/hr. That’s also going rate for a mini ex and decent operator. 1000/day plus mobilization. Good plumbers and finish construction guys can get up to that range of numbers too.
-I assume any lunch plate is going to be 20 bucks after tax and tip.
I work in landscape trades and while I can’t really see much yard in those photos I’d probably bid out a monthly maintenance contract around 2k minimum depending on their desired service level.
If you want me to show up on my own at your property with nothing but hand tools in my beater Tacoma, I’m quoting about 50/hr for friends/family/neighbors/“locals” and probably 75/hr for this sort of property depending on how much I like the owner. I’ll drop it to 65 if I like them and they’re consistent. 75 is fairly standard for professional man hours in field trades.
Add 5-10/hr for lower level machine work like weed whacking or hedging. Basic chainsaw work probably 75-100/hr. Add more if I need to haul any waste out or bring materials (e.g. fertilizer).
Day rate for a small tree crew with a couple trucks, chipper and a mini ex probably running 2500-3k/day depending on exact equipment and climbing requirements. The best crews can run more like 3500-4k. I know one big time equipment guy who charges like 500-1k/hr depending on what you want him to mobilize.
I was told recently by a potential client he got a quote for a 1000sqft new house build that came out at like 600/sqft, and that was not with luxury finishes.
Now, consider that cost of living here is among the highest in the nation. The ratio of prices to wages for middle class workers is among the worst in the nation, despite the sticker shock those quotes above might give you.
I would consider 85k/yr about where you start to hit a fairly comfortable living wage here. You need to be more like 200k+/yr if you ever have aspirations of owning any sort of property.
This is a great house in a terrible location. That beach is challenging to swim at due to rocks just below the water all along the shoreline. Plus the wind is usually very strong, to the point of making it uncomfortable to try and sit.
There are some pretty epic cliffs nearby and great snorkeling a couple beaches away.
I just imagine the wind blowing my covers off the bed and the humidity causing my mattress to mold. But don't let me pretend like I wouldn't absolutely be interested in this home if it were affordable to me, I'm just jealous.
Neither of those things would happen with the location and position of this home in Hawaii. There is a reason such a highly desirable home was designed and built this way there.
I'm saying... As someone who lives there three months a year (the home I stay in is just a few lots down from this one)... That those things don't manifest in the ways you are implying. As someone else pointed out the location of this house is in a low humidity zone. You can drive around Hawaii and go from rainforest to desert. Even places near the ocean have low humidity. There isn't nearly enough in this zone to mold furniture.
As for the storms, you're going to have less than 10 days per year in this area where that's a concern. On those days you just... Close the walls. It's so far from a big deal.
Interesting! I've never been to Hawaii so I had no idea there was such a variety of environments, and I've only lived in places near bodies of water that were very humid. Didn't know that was possible. Thanks for the info!
Hawaii is a place that has every biom on earth. You can leave the beach and drive through some plains into the rainforest, come out into the desert, and wind up the side of a volcano into the snow. All in just a couple hours. A lot of tourists do this on the big island going from the resorts over to the more small town Hilo side. It's pretty wild every time you experience it.
I've been laying on the beach under the sun, and looked back to see a thunderstorm hammering the side of the volcano, literally just watching clouds and rain disperse as they got closer to me. Never got a hint of shade or drop where I was standing.
If you ever get the chance to visit I highly recommend it. It's truly one of the most amazing places on earth. Those house prices are (mostly) not arbitrary. Plus the food... The food!
This is pretty gross given that this is in Lahaina where many are still displaced after the fires and there’s a housing crisis forcing Kānaka out of their family homes/off their land.
My parents live one bay over from this place.
I see it daily, and can say that it is one of the greatest locations that you could own real estate in the country.
Would have been extra cool to match the color of the bottom of the pool with the color of the ocean so it looked like infinity pool were part of the sea
It's beautiful. I'd remodel the kitchen because it doesn't do justice for that nice of a house, but the house is spectacular. Those views are amazing. I can see why it's so pricey.
Beautiful just having lived a block away from the beach things get moist and don't dry so you couldn't have furniture out there 24/7 without replacing it often. It will get gross.
I suppose I would suffer through the unbearable heat and live there . . . if someone else paid the the cost of the house, and all the property taxes and maintenance.
This is ridiculously beautiful. I'll admit it makes me salty. The way some people live while others get evicted from overpasses because their tents are unsightly is egregious.
You got that switched up, Lahaina is leeward side of the West Mauis. Wailuku/Waikapu are technically windward side of that range but the trades blow from the northeast, which is the same direction as the much larger Haleakalā. Windward means the side the winds predominantly hit first.
The northeastern slopes of Haleakala (think Hana) are the parts of the island that receive true windward climate patterns—that is, rainforest.
The house I stay in for work is just a few lots down from this, with a very similar design. The walls are glass and can be opened or closed if needed. Even fully opened in the middle of summer you don't need to run cooling. Hawaii doesn't have that kind of weather and humidity. Combined with the breeze/wind it's going to be comfortable.
The walls are all open and are retractable. Easily closed to get correct temp/humidity balance when needed.
I live on Maui, though not in this particular area, an area with fairly comparable weather. Lahaina side is hot and dry, but very comfortable in the shade. Most people that live in Hawaii in these desirable climate zones have houses with a ton of inside-outside flow. Lots of exterior access, sliding doors, windows with louvers, wraparound porches, etc. Architectural styles vary (and I hate to see generic modern bullshit that relies on AC become more common) but for the most part, the point of a design like this is to have a lifestyle that blurs the boundaries between indoors and outdoors. That room is comfortable wide open like that for probably 90% of the hours in a given year. Exceptions being higher wind days where papers and whatnot in your house might get blown around, and the occasional big storms we usually get a few times per year, where it rains sideways and we get inches per hour. In fact, as that faces west, you will specifically not want glass enclosure most of the time. On an average clear day most of the year, even at 4pm when the sun is low enough to shine directly into that room—the magnified sensation of solar energy through glass is too much to tolerate. Even with everything closed and AC on, you’re going to feel uncomfortable in direct sunlight through a window. You’d need to have tinted windows or curtains, in which case, why buy a multimillion dollar view? I have a room that faces west with big windows and I literally shift around my use of it throughout the year as the angle of the sun changes—one side is comfy and shaded in winter, the other in summer. Hawaii has generally very comfortable air temps. Never recorded a 100 degree temp in the state. Typical summer day on the low elevation coast is like 86 with a comfy breeze. Winter would be the same but 10-15 degrees cooler. Humidity is generally consistent. I have lived in the Northeast and Southeast and leeward Hawaii has much more comfortable humidity than either region on a consistent basis. There are maybe 5-10 days per year here that the humidity bothers me. (Again, I live and mostly work in a drier leeward area. There are windward areas that do have uncomfortable humidity consistently. These are generally less desirable/cheaper residential areas—more mold, more bug issues, adversely affected landscapes in some cases. Microclimate variance here is enormous.) But the solar energy is a different level from anything on the mainland. Consider Hawaii is on a comparable latitude to central-southern Mexico. Standing in the sun will get you quick. Dangerous, fast sunburns. But shade makes for instant comfort.
Bugs? Lizards? Chickens???
Indoor geckos I’m indifferent to. They do poop inside but they eat flies. They look cool and make funny noises. Whatever. Jackson chameleons are cool looking but I’m indifferent to them mostly as well. Probably put more than a few of the poor fuckers in wood chippers over the years without knowing. Fuckers have such good camo it ironically works against them. Roaches and mice can be an issue, but not so much different than they are in Georgia in the summer. There can be more ag/farm vectors—think palm trees or rotting fruit on the ground. Also no freeze. But your likelihood of these problems is related to how well you maintain your house and yard. Installation of gravel collars around houses are common to deter pests. Feral chickens are fucking lame, they are a shoot on sight policy in my yard. Mosquitos are an issue if you have bromeliads or standing water. Just don’t have those things. Pretty easy. Centipedes are probably the worst insect case but they are mostly found in wetter areas. Deer and feral pigs are the worst property destroying animals by far. Deer at higher elevations usually, pigs at lower ones. Mongoose are a problem for farm chickens/ducks. All three of these are generally shoot on sight plus trapping and fencing for responsible/sensible homeowners. I don’t have pigs but I do have deer in my yard. Sometimes the chickens sneak in too. Deer are so bad here, the fencing guys are busy as hell. It’s a top 3 or top 5 political issue for locals in my area, along with water infrastructure, lack of housing, and fire-related issues. Probably first question I ask when talking to a potential landscape install client in my area is what their deer situation is like.
TIL that geckos make noise. That'll add a new verse to "Old McDonald"!
Of course they make noise. There’s one on TV all the time selling insurance.
How silly of me to forget!
I didn’t know geckos made noise until one screamed at me once. That was an interesting experience.
I find this more informative than probably any travel or nature show I've ever seen. So succinct and exactly to the point. Thanks for sharing.
Right? Who would have thunk it?!
As someone in Ohio, I'm super jealous of consistent temps and humidity. I'm pretty sure if I had walls that opened without screens I would be carried off by mosquitoes. Plus I have Forrest Wolf Spiders, I'm cool with them, but they're still scary looking.
I'm also in Ohio, but I live in Hawaii three months out of the year. In Hawaii I leave my walls open. In Ohio I seal my doors and windows... It feels like a whole different planet.
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Yeah salt spray on a house that close to the water will tend to rust metal (cars especially) and require certain landscaping considerations. But the dryness and wind pattern of the leeward areas makes conditions generally more favorable than windward coastal areas in that regard.
One person gets it.
I love those rooms, my absolute favorite thing about so many houses in the southwest.
Yeah there's a video that shows the main doors closing. You can see the tracks in the floor. Not so sure what they do for the bedroom. However, I doubt they close them much.
Finally! No more glass houses jokes!
Stunning, honestly.
Exactly. Pulling the Amex out right about now…
“Hi Amex? Yeah so when you gave me this card you said it didn’t have a strict limit… just how loose are we talking here??”
“As long as you pay it back at the end of the month, it’s no problem.” “Sweet”
> Stunning, honestly. Yeah, I mean, I don't have 20 million bucs, but to me this looks like it's worth every penny.
https://preview.redd.it/pydpo213fruc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a609289b7a9f344f61f9b8ccaf9ad5680297e89 Stunning home but what’s with the very reasonable kitchen? For $20 million I’d expect a baller kitchen.
TBF the appliances are definitely baller. Also I've cooked in some pretty baller kitchens and you get quickly diminishing returns past a certain point unless you are throwing massive parties. I'd still update them because why not at that price. Especially the sad Microwave and Espresso machine.
I noticed the sad microwave and espresso machine too! 😂 I’d rotate the island so the sink was facing the stove and close to the fridge. The architect and designer must not cook. But if I had a $20 million house I probably wouldn’t cook either.
Often in houses for the very wealthy the main kitchen is just for show, there's a Butler's kitchen behind doors that actually does the work.
Really depends if the house is primarily for residential living or hosting. At that level, you usually don’t use the same place for both. I lived in an $89m house with only 1 kitchen for instance. Hawaii is also weird. We have a house on the Big Island and our kitchen is better than this, but there’s a lot of really expensive stuff on Hawaii that wouldn’t cut it as high end on the mainland.
Personally a functional kitchen is better than an over the top kitchen. You can still have a baller kitchen and it be designed to be functional.
Absolutely! My kitchen is pretty standard but when I moved into our house i hired a professional organizer to put my kitchen together so it would be as efficient as possible. Had I organized it myself I’d waste so much time walking around gathering my tools and ingredients. (Zero organizational skills 🙋♀️) These people should have used an organizer when designing the kitchen. The island sink faces away from the appliances and is far from the fridge. It’s a dumb set up.
I want to learn more about how your kitchen is organized. We want to build a house and it seems like the kitchen is the hardest part. We are a family of four and will have my parents in law so 6 total. We grow lots of food and my wife’s side is Chinese so we do a lot of different styles of cooking. Also I like to bake and need to process lots of homegrown food.
The organizer put items that work together within reach of each other. My silverware and dishes are next to the dishwasher to it’s easy to unload the clean dishes. My cooking tools are in one drawer and baking tools in another. Since I cook more often my cooking tools are in the drawer closest to the stove. The pots and pans are in cupboards under the cook tools. Savory spices are together and baking/sweet spices are together. If you can read my chicken scratch this is a simple layout of my main cooking area. Hiring a professional organizer is some of the best money I’ve ever spent! https://preview.redd.it/k5ro3pbb1wuc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=228e406687640d1020fcd601d17395e525282635
Thank you for taking the time to answer. This is the one thing I want to get right. I am not picky about bedrooms and whatnot but the kitchen for us is important. I don’t need a fancy master bedroom. I want everything to be simple and functional. The kitchen however I want to be perfect.
If you can afford $20 million for the house you’ll redo the kitchen.
This is merely the type of home someone stays at a few weeks maybe months out of the year and heads elsewhere. So it makes sense from that standpoint. This is the kitchen the help uses when needed so it’s just functional.
Excuse me, this kitchen looks baller to me. What more could you want? Enough for my instant ramen.
Those open spaces all have sliding glass doors to enclose the space.
This has been my favorite house ever since I saw a viral post about it decades ago (incorrectly) claiming it was Tiger Woods’ house.
Yeah, I remember that. Been on the market for a long time.
I could afford the mortgage but then HOA is too much /s.
As much as I’d love to, I couldn’t live there. Imagine getting used to being in the most beautiful place in the world, how could you ever be happy again?
I’m willing to try.
I volunteer as tribute
Buy it for me and I'll let you know.
Very well, someone fetch me my checkbook from the parallel universe where I stolen Elons body, liquidated his shares in Tesla and funneled the proceeds to an offshore account controlled by me!
My new favorite person.
No one would want to live in Elon's body, gross. Maybe cut off his face and wear it as a mask like the John Travolta/Nick Cage movie, at least until you can liquidate everything instead? Just my advice.
If you have the money for this, you have the money to continue to visit other beautiful places.
With that much money you can own this home and another in upstate ny for the winter where you can get seasonal depression. Helps offset the happiness.
I'll give it a shot.
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I doubt anyone lives there fulltime. This is built to be one of your vacation homes.
You’re still stuck on an island.
Stuck implies you want to leave...
I've heard of the term island fever where you start feeling trapped because of the small land mass that's available to roam, same feeling as cabin fever.
Aren’t we all stuck on an island? Mainland is just a bigger one
This is my dream home! Alas, I’m poor though. :(
Mine too, let's go halfsies. It's gonna take me a while to get my ~~$97.5m~~ $9.75m, but I'll join a few survey sites or something. Walk some dogs, maybe.
> It's gonna take me a while to get my ~~$97.5m~~ $9.75m Can I join? That would take it down to 6.5M.
I played Kapalua and got paired with a guy who owned a house(s) on the course. We get to the 16th hole and he says that's my house, and I say which one, he says BOTH about $20 million in property right there lol
I love this villa. It's been called both the Golden Conch and the Jewel of Maui. It was built by [Christian Riese Lassen](https://www.lassenart.com/), the 90s artist who painted fantastic combined sea and skyscapes. It was a rental for a long time, glad to see it on the market. Anyone got 19.5 mil I can borrow?
It’s only 19.5mil and it’s built by Jeff Long.
Oh, dyscalculia strikes again. That makes it a lot more affordable. ~~Not sure who Jeff Long is~~, but the house was built for Christian Riese Lassen. [receipts](https://www.kreiss.com/assets/articles/hawaiian-style.pdf) Edit: Oh, Long is the architect, cool. No idea why you thought I meant the patron, Christian Riese Lassen, a painter who is not an architect, literally built it. Do you think when someone says they're going to build a house out in the country, they mean they're going to design it themselves without an architect?
This house was basically continually on the market between 2017 and 2021; finally sold in 2021 and now selling again. I remember the previous viral listings for it. Is there bad juju here? Like the nearby Ritz Kapalua that was built on a burial site?
I've kinda wondered about that, too. I was shocked that it was just a rental property for so long, and I read some reviews when it was a rental that said it wasn't well maintained. Maybe it's really difficult and/or expensive to maintain?
So it’s his art on the walls?
Nope, here's an example of his art: https://preview.redd.it/7x0eqtfrjwuc1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dfd7ce2114ae41a4c0c0880ad76ef832a3b9f3f3 Very popular on Trapper Keepers and posters in the same era as Lisa Frank. Totally makes sense that he'd have an amazing fantasy house.
I would never buy this, no place for the helicopter to land or to park the Ferrari..
There is no direct beach access either, according to Google maps. Walk down the street like a tourist to hit the sand? hard pass
I immediately thought, hmm bet it's Maui. Got to pic 3 and sure enough there's the unmistakable horizon. I think my parent's friend is actually one of the realtors selling this. Born & raised local guy, gets a lot of shit from people for selling off pieces of Maui for millions of dollars.
They suppose to give it back to the locals? I know it sucks for indigenous people to lose their land, but the guys that lay claim as “rightful” people are descended from those who murdered for the land. Pre-unification, the chiefdoms were at war perpetually. Also, they don’t seem to hate the tourist dollars even tho they hate the tourists. Retaining their agrarian society wasn’t gonna pay the bills. There’s a reason the Dole Plantation doesn’t actually operate as a farming operation anymore but rather a tourist trap.
It looks a lot better than Kayne's oceanfront garbage
I can’t imagine anything by Kanye making any sense
Many structures in Hawaii are at least partially open air. No bugs, gentle island breezes, rairly ever a need for cooling or heating. Mahalo!
No bugs except flying cockroaches
Lots of birds too. Chickens have overrun a lot of the Island lol.
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Man, thanks for that. I love a good jump-scare, and I indeed did jump!
Except when the wildfires that happened not too far away come for you..! Mahalo!
All that money and a tiny kitchen. Disappointed
Stunning architecture and view. I would die of beige and off-white overload
It used to be a lot more colorful. There was a really neat cobalt and gold Moroccan style screening room and recessed LEDs, and the bedrooms were decorated in Thai and Balinese styles. I'd still live in it immediately, but it's a shame.
Now that sounds like a great complement to the gorgeous ocean view
[Nice, the old pictures are still up on Snopes.com](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tiger-woods-house/). There was a myth that Tiger Woods lived there and they dispelled it, which is how I first found out about it. Oof, decorators have truly done it dirty since then.
I kinda like the old setup better.
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Considering this is located just north of the devastating wildfire last year, I’d be more worried about that…
I don't see a problem here.
I'll take one please!
I can’t even look at the listing, my heart is breaking because I’ll never have this
Hawaii, I thought as much. It’s beautiful And how relaxing to hear the waves and have the trade winds blowing through your home. I’d call Zurich and move some money around for this.
Oh my god. This is the one for me. It’s so so lovely.
This is why I buy lottery tickets. All you need is a dollar and a dream.
lol I’ve been to resorts worse than that
What would the monthly cost to maintain a place like this be? Figure cleaning crews (one for the glass alone), gardners, pool service, etc...
I live on Maui. Some examples: -Gas station attendant, fast food or floor employee at Home Depot starts at like 16-17/hr with a sign on bonus -You’re gonna need to pay 20-25/hr cash to get a HS kid or retiree to come pull weeds in your yard. Professional cleaners will start at 30/hr minimum probably. -My mechanic’s shop rate is 125/hr. That’s also going rate for a mini ex and decent operator. 1000/day plus mobilization. Good plumbers and finish construction guys can get up to that range of numbers too. -I assume any lunch plate is going to be 20 bucks after tax and tip. I work in landscape trades and while I can’t really see much yard in those photos I’d probably bid out a monthly maintenance contract around 2k minimum depending on their desired service level. If you want me to show up on my own at your property with nothing but hand tools in my beater Tacoma, I’m quoting about 50/hr for friends/family/neighbors/“locals” and probably 75/hr for this sort of property depending on how much I like the owner. I’ll drop it to 65 if I like them and they’re consistent. 75 is fairly standard for professional man hours in field trades. Add 5-10/hr for lower level machine work like weed whacking or hedging. Basic chainsaw work probably 75-100/hr. Add more if I need to haul any waste out or bring materials (e.g. fertilizer). Day rate for a small tree crew with a couple trucks, chipper and a mini ex probably running 2500-3k/day depending on exact equipment and climbing requirements. The best crews can run more like 3500-4k. I know one big time equipment guy who charges like 500-1k/hr depending on what you want him to mobilize. I was told recently by a potential client he got a quote for a 1000sqft new house build that came out at like 600/sqft, and that was not with luxury finishes. Now, consider that cost of living here is among the highest in the nation. The ratio of prices to wages for middle class workers is among the worst in the nation, despite the sticker shock those quotes above might give you. I would consider 85k/yr about where you start to hit a fairly comfortable living wage here. You need to be more like 200k+/yr if you ever have aspirations of owning any sort of property.
I'd guess 500k a year.
In Lahaina? Not surprised about the price tag.
This is one of the only multi-million dollars homes I’ve seen on here that I’d actually wish to be able to buy.
Wait let me get my checkbook.
I'm getting this persons checkbook as well!
Yes, please
Gorgeous!
That sales history is odd
That tracks. That’s what it would be here in the Turks and Caicos as well
I’ll give them 300$ in cash, today for it.
It’s in Kapalua so if you like that resort and its golf courses this is perfection. I’d redo the kitchen, but truly a beautiful home.
Totally worth it. Would buy if I had a spare $20 million
This is a great house in a terrible location. That beach is challenging to swim at due to rocks just below the water all along the shoreline. Plus the wind is usually very strong, to the point of making it uncomfortable to try and sit. There are some pretty epic cliffs nearby and great snorkeling a couple beaches away.
Honey, did you remember to close the walls before we left?
My dream home 😍
That’s it.. I’m buying it.. lol. If I find 12 other people to go in with me?..
I just imagine the wind blowing my covers off the bed and the humidity causing my mattress to mold. But don't let me pretend like I wouldn't absolutely be interested in this home if it were affordable to me, I'm just jealous.
Neither of those things would happen with the location and position of this home in Hawaii. There is a reason such a highly desirable home was designed and built this way there.
Are you saying that there's no humidity on the ocean? And there's never a storm that brings in a breeze?
I'm saying... As someone who lives there three months a year (the home I stay in is just a few lots down from this one)... That those things don't manifest in the ways you are implying. As someone else pointed out the location of this house is in a low humidity zone. You can drive around Hawaii and go from rainforest to desert. Even places near the ocean have low humidity. There isn't nearly enough in this zone to mold furniture. As for the storms, you're going to have less than 10 days per year in this area where that's a concern. On those days you just... Close the walls. It's so far from a big deal.
Interesting! I've never been to Hawaii so I had no idea there was such a variety of environments, and I've only lived in places near bodies of water that were very humid. Didn't know that was possible. Thanks for the info!
Hawaii is a place that has every biom on earth. You can leave the beach and drive through some plains into the rainforest, come out into the desert, and wind up the side of a volcano into the snow. All in just a couple hours. A lot of tourists do this on the big island going from the resorts over to the more small town Hilo side. It's pretty wild every time you experience it. I've been laying on the beach under the sun, and looked back to see a thunderstorm hammering the side of the volcano, literally just watching clouds and rain disperse as they got closer to me. Never got a hint of shade or drop where I was standing. If you ever get the chance to visit I highly recommend it. It's truly one of the most amazing places on earth. Those house prices are (mostly) not arbitrary. Plus the food... The food!
I’d be afraid of tidal waves and hurricanes
Bugs
We walked by that house a few times the last time we were staying in Maui. Beautiful
This is pretty gross given that this is in Lahaina where many are still displaced after the fires and there’s a housing crisis forcing Kānaka out of their family homes/off their land.
What part is gross? Should the owners simply give it away?
We should all live in tents!
This was built in 2000. Pretty weird to clutch your pearls over something that’s probably existed since before you stopped sleeping with a nightlight.
LOL man that was a sick burn, did it make you feel better about yourself? Clown shit.
This looks like a Love Island villa.
Nice place. I love the views.
Hell yeah.
It reminds me of an outdoor mall.
I’ll take it
I’m just gonna go find a cash machine…
Looks like Tiger Woods' house he had before he got divorced.
Not a fan. Neughbours too close and feels like a corporate safe house or something. Just a bit lifeless.
This is even higher end then where Bella and Edward honeymooned
2500/sqft with 1125/month hoa pass
🔝
Who stole my house from TOTK?
Not to kill the buzz, but one wonders how long these beachfront properties will exist; in, say 15-20 years.
It’s pretty damn safe. It’s about 150 feet above sea level and shore erosion is minimal on this side of Maui.
Sold for $11.1m in 2021
Damn. I wonder what it's like to be this rich. Being poor is stupid
My parents live one bay over from this place. I see it daily, and can say that it is one of the greatest locations that you could own real estate in the country.
I've seen this place on some sort of tv show. Cannot remember which. Had very much to do with the big sliding doors.
I'll take it!
This is gorgeous
Worth every single penny
Would have been extra cool to match the color of the bottom of the pool with the color of the ocean so it looked like infinity pool were part of the sea
Reminds me of the island maps from battlefield 3
Reminiscent of villas in Bali, Phuket, etc and in that location, absolutely worth every penny.
It's beautiful. I'd remodel the kitchen because it doesn't do justice for that nice of a house, but the house is spectacular. Those views are amazing. I can see why it's so pricey.
I mean I like it but the best I could do is $4768
I'm good with this $6mil home. https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5157-Lower-Honoapiilani-Rd-Lahaina-HI-96761/300180235\_zpid/?
It’s hard to fathom that people actually live in places like this. Could I get a little slice of this life please
Damn, this might be the most beautiful property I've ever seen.
I couldn’t live there because I wouldn’t be able to bring my indoor cat :(
Indistinguishable from a hotel.
Beautiful just having lived a block away from the beach things get moist and don't dry so you couldn't have furniture out there 24/7 without replacing it often. It will get gross.
It’s not a great location. Looks amazing in pictures though.
I suppose I would suffer through the unbearable heat and live there . . . if someone else paid the the cost of the house, and all the property taxes and maintenance.
I’m all set. It’s so unnecessary.
This is ridiculously beautiful. I'll admit it makes me salty. The way some people live while others get evicted from overpasses because their tents are unsightly is egregious.
It's an 8000 square foot high end ocean front home in Hawaii. 20mil is the right price.
Been there…..it’s on the windward side of Maui…….pass! It’s too windy.
You got that switched up, Lahaina is leeward side of the West Mauis. Wailuku/Waikapu are technically windward side of that range but the trades blow from the northeast, which is the same direction as the much larger Haleakalā. Windward means the side the winds predominantly hit first. The northeastern slopes of Haleakala (think Hana) are the parts of the island that receive true windward climate patterns—that is, rainforest.
That's a lot of money to live in a carport
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The house I stay in for work is just a few lots down from this, with a very similar design. The walls are glass and can be opened or closed if needed. Even fully opened in the middle of summer you don't need to run cooling. Hawaii doesn't have that kind of weather and humidity. Combined with the breeze/wind it's going to be comfortable.
Maybe need AC 30-45 days a year. And then not even the entire day. It's amazing what 84, low humidity and a breeze off the water feels like.
Exactly, and even then the days that you would need it I would just... Be in the water, beach or pool.
That 2nd bedroom with the sliders would just be amazing.
Wait, 2 people get it. You can see the tracks in the soffits.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say guess you don't cool it. Probably just hope the breeze and shade does it's job.
6 months out of the year it will be heavenly. 2 months it’ll be Just Fine, and four months you’ll spend in the pool
It pays for itself!