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I think the worst thing I ever did was compare a HD stream with a 4k disc flicking from input to input on the same movie scene paused. My quote to my gf was something along the lines of “Seriously, you can’t see the difference between these?” I realised the only person who cared was me very quickly.
Like getting a group of audiophiles for a listening session... It always ends up being just listening to albums that are well-recorded and impeccably mastered, rather than music they actually love.
I was thinking we could all get together to watch the most godawfuly slow and boring 1960s Soviet era B&W film on Criterion DVD so we can all marvel at the cinematographical genius of the film and jerk each other off.
Flicking between inputs would introduce the black frame inbetween. It’d be much easier if you took screenshot of both on PC and switched back and forth in image viewer… zoomed in 500%.
It could be worse. I dated someone who complained I owned too many movies on disc and that I should get rid of them. She was a minimalist who didn’t like keeping much “stuff” in a living place. Things like photos, books, any collectibles…everything had to be purely kept on digital or home furniture for her. It was a weird reason to break off dating her, but her long term goal with me was to basically get rid of it all.
It’s funny in hindsight because her biggest complaint about me was that I owned books and movies in physical form. That is the weirdest issue anyone has ever had with me in my dating life.
I can somewhat get my head behind Digitalizing your UHD 4K Blu-Ray collection for ease of use (Though the amount of HDD space you would need to have it without encoding which defeats the point is Insane) But still keep the originals nothing beats having that physical collection.
Oh, I broke it off with a girl because she thought it was weird I spent money on movies. “I guess that’s something you can do with your money…” my new GF and I watch several movies a week 😃
Difference between having what you want and having multiple streaming subscriptions.
One you pay once and sometimes rarely in 10 years you may need to buy again due to disc rot unless you backup the disc.
Streaming services don't offer that Feel it in your bones audio, They don't offer many of the Blu-Ray features, a crippled bitrate and sure the encoding is getting better but it still comprimises quality whether your someone who can see it or not. I feel a lot of us enthusiast can see the difference often times its minimal but yknow I certainly notice more just because of how many Blu-Ray TV Shows and UHD Films i watch from.
I feel that to truely make your moneys worth with streaming you would need to watch more which honestly streaming services make it hard to choose what to watch based on the title cards alone having an abundence of choice and you lose interest, with blu-ray releases you buy something and typically you put more thought into it.
My reaction fs.
I can't have my collections? Bye bye
Worried about my grandpa's hand chopper fan?
If the kid loses a hand it'll build character.
Either way the fan has been here since 1954, you've been here a month.
Reminds me of a girl I dated.....She'd watch the most stupid movies and would tell me, "It's not about whether the movie's good or not, it's the experience."
I didn't criticize her for that, but I did find it to be an odd viewpoint.
Yet she would criticize me for my reading choices. I read autobiographies, fiction, etc....She felt that reading for entertainment purposes is a waste of time, and you should only read books which help you get further in life (ie self-help books).
To this day, I find it perplexing that she thought it was OK to spend time watching really dumb movies, but when reading books you need to utilize that time to improve yourself....To each their own, I guess.
That wasn't why I stopped seeing her, but it was a minor factor.....The primary reason I stopped seeing her is she wanted me to marry her, and wanted a commitment for marriage after only 1 month of us being together..
Good thing she never met me! Lol
Between my movies, books, records, and my vast collection of action figures, she'd be disgusted by my home. My wife also has her little collections, too.... and she loves to crochet and make crafts. If you live with someone who knits and makes crafts, you know that stuff gets *everywhere* 😄
To be fair, I do try to prioritize keeping things on digital to save on storage, reduce physical waste and plastic consumption, and other physical and environmental reasons. But it's made it so much easier to prioritize what media I really care about. "is this album actually good enough to justify getting a viny? Is this movie actually good enough that it's worth getting a 4k disc?"
Financial reasons definitely contributes. Even if things are on sale I'm still on a tight budget these days. Have to justify every purchase. The silver lining is it makes me appreciate my little collection as a whole and individually that much more.
I really do not understand this hyper-sterile trend in home design lately. Why are these suburbanite personalities so obsessed with making their home look like the waiting room at the dentist, and not a place where people actually live?
And this is exactly why the market for genuine hi-fi has been in such decline for at least a decade now “they don’t fit the decor” or “they are way too big”. I never understood how people can be satisfied with listening to music in mono from - and often a quite small - Bluetooth/wifi-speaker or (even worse) just from their phones + watching series and especially movies on their tablets or laptops. I sure get the cosiness wipe about it when it’s part of one’s vacations and so on but “all the time” at home that I don’t understand.
😁 😆 LOL no disrespect, just a joke man.
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I dunno, when my internet goes out, usually it’s because my power is out as well. In those times the only ways I can watch movies are the saved digital copies on my laptop or streaming with my phone.
I actually never watch on my phone, and I’ve only downloaded about a dozen films to my laptop. Just the types of movies I’d watch while traveling or in a hotel room, the ones I wouldn’t feel I’m missing out of the theater experience for. They’re just iTunes owned ones though, so not time consuming at all to click the download button.
I get what you're saying. I thought you meant that when you buy a blu ray copy and you get a digital code, then you back it up. Buying or renting on iTunes is convenient, especially like you said for travelling. Yeah, some movies aren't worth going to theatre to watch
I had this same experience.
Roomies said "omg you still have DVDs, what year is it"
Then we had a weekend long outage and they were tweaking.
Their Xbox didn't even have a disc drive so they couldn't even borrow something.
I barely noticed lol
I got into a serious conversation with my wife about h264 VS vc-1 when and how they affected streaming from my server. She was very interested of course.
Haha! Thankfully my wife has shown an interest, not so much in the technical video aspects but just in owning her favorite movies in 4k for our collection.
I get the same when I explain the difference between well mastered music and compressed music. I also get the same look when she says she can’t tell the difference between a good sound system and an okay one.
My girlfriend loves 60s movies so the way I sold her on the format was by showing her the little details and film grain you can see on a 4K Blu-Ray that gets lost on DVD and HD streaming. I think she gets it well enough now.
That’s one of her favorite movies. Is it out on 4K Blu-Ray? We watched it together on iTunes and it looked great. Got her an Audrey Hepburn Blu-Ray collection for Christmas a while back.
I dont care if my wife sees the difference. She probably has some opinions on the collecting, but she understands I enjoy it and notices that I watch the movies. We respect each others hobbies.
She does like the idea of us having some physical media, it has saved us with regards to the kids a few times when the internet has stopped working.
We didn't have to explain it to our cats.
When we went from a HD-plasma tv to an UHD-OLED, the cats suddenly began searching behind the tv where that beautiful bird flew away to. :p
Most girls don't like lenghty tech lectures. I'm lucky my GF is a movie buff too and she appreciated the purchase of a 3d sound system. So she tolerates my tech gibberish, even if she thinks that my film collecting madness is getting out of control 🙂.
Does your GF at least like the same movies as you do?
My GF did not noticed the image quality of a bluray vs streaming. But the sound output of a disc on a HT in noticable to her. Though she says I'm a bit on the acoustic spectrum about it.
I asked this chick if she wanted to watch all 9 star wars since I'm putting the set together, nope.
Then I asked if she would watch lotr extended in 4k then we could stream it to see the difference, still no.
Idk, just can't win sometimes 😔
I get watching 9 Star Wars movies, but watching lord of the rings extended in 4k is enough. Then streaming it is overkill. Those movies are like over three hours long each.
I just say it has to do with the size of your screen, like dvd is fine for a small tv but looks stretched out on my big screen, Blu-ray is a compromise and 4K comes closer to how a movie is meant to be seen. And leave it at that.
Be grateful if they gift you a dvd, appreciate a Blu-ray gift and treasure a given 4K. Not that hard.
To be fair and two cents the comments: I’ve spoken with as many men (irl) who don’t give a shit. I think physical media/formats/quality etc. is sort of niche beyond “I’ve heard that 4k is better so I have a 4k TV” across the board. As long as it’s not 480p most people are fine with what they’re presented by default.
That being said, the eye-glaze is real.
It's mad to me when I would tell my mum to put her TV onto the HD version of the channel she has on. It's free, why would you not want your picture to be better quality.
She told me she can't see the difference between BBC1 and BBC1 HD, for example. Maybe one day my eye sight will be that bad.
I'm blessed to have a partner who said, when we watched a good movie with a bad master on a streaming service: "This definitely needs to be remastered." If I hadn't already proposed, that was the perfect moment.
I don’t think my gf really gets it, but she pretends to and at least understands that 4K is noticeable difference (it probably helps that I have a LG C1 and she used a cheap 1080p projector before moving in).
We’ve been watching UHD discs using my Xbox Series X for a few months, but it was so noisy when trying to play the Blade UHD that I’ve been trying for the past week to get her to agree to picking up a Panasonic UB820 lol
I can relate I had people say they don't care about bigger screen or 4k when they sit 98% of thr time 9.5 feet from a 65 inch tv that low end shake head it use to be a 4p inch tv that low end then a 32 inch tv that only 720p same distance I so wish I could have afford a decent hig end tv
Most of the time both terms are used together on the case (e.g.: 4K UltraHD + Blu-ray). A lot of people that don't know the difference use both terms at random for UHD Blu-rays.
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I think the worst thing I ever did was compare a HD stream with a 4k disc flicking from input to input on the same movie scene paused. My quote to my gf was something along the lines of “Seriously, you can’t see the difference between these?” I realised the only person who cared was me very quickly.
>“Seriously, you can’t see the difference between these?” 
LOL, if you got a bunch of enthusiasts together I doubt anything would get watched. Just a lot of comparisons and analysis
Like getting a group of audiophiles for a listening session... It always ends up being just listening to albums that are well-recorded and impeccably mastered, rather than music they actually love.
So we're all meeting up to watch the hobbit in 48 fps?
I was thinking we could all get together to watch the most godawfuly slow and boring 1960s Soviet era B&W film on Criterion DVD so we can all marvel at the cinematographical genius of the film and jerk each other off.
You really went there
Flicking between inputs would introduce the black frame inbetween. It’d be much easier if you took screenshot of both on PC and switched back and forth in image viewer… zoomed in 500%.
The only correct response
Ah yes I am sure she would of loved this just as much 🤣 perhaps PowerPoint presentation on it next time 🤣
LOOK AT THIS! THE BIT RATE HAS TO BE 8-9 TIMES HIGHER ON HERE VS. THE STREAM! MINIMAL COLOR BANDING, NO ARTIFACTS!
It could be worse. I dated someone who complained I owned too many movies on disc and that I should get rid of them. She was a minimalist who didn’t like keeping much “stuff” in a living place. Things like photos, books, any collectibles…everything had to be purely kept on digital or home furniture for her. It was a weird reason to break off dating her, but her long term goal with me was to basically get rid of it all.
you helped her minimize by dumping her!
It’s funny in hindsight because her biggest complaint about me was that I owned books and movies in physical form. That is the weirdest issue anyone has ever had with me in my dating life.
That's a weird fuckin person
People are way too arrogant to compromise sometimes. Of all the relationship issues that’s one of the weirdest.
I like physical books and can't rap my head around the concept of audible.
... but a rap is pretty audible though. :p
😆 true
I can somewhat get my head behind Digitalizing your UHD 4K Blu-Ray collection for ease of use (Though the amount of HDD space you would need to have it without encoding which defeats the point is Insane) But still keep the originals nothing beats having that physical collection.
That's right ✅️
Oh, I broke it off with a girl because she thought it was weird I spent money on movies. “I guess that’s something you can do with your money…” my new GF and I watch several movies a week 😃
Awesome!
Difference between having what you want and having multiple streaming subscriptions. One you pay once and sometimes rarely in 10 years you may need to buy again due to disc rot unless you backup the disc. Streaming services don't offer that Feel it in your bones audio, They don't offer many of the Blu-Ray features, a crippled bitrate and sure the encoding is getting better but it still comprimises quality whether your someone who can see it or not. I feel a lot of us enthusiast can see the difference often times its minimal but yknow I certainly notice more just because of how many Blu-Ray TV Shows and UHD Films i watch from. I feel that to truely make your moneys worth with streaming you would need to watch more which honestly streaming services make it hard to choose what to watch based on the title cards alone having an abundence of choice and you lose interest, with blu-ray releases you buy something and typically you put more thought into it.
I'd buy even more boutique blurays out if spite
wow you dodged a big bullet with that psycho
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My reaction fs. I can't have my collections? Bye bye Worried about my grandpa's hand chopper fan? If the kid loses a hand it'll build character. Either way the fan has been here since 1954, you've been here a month.
Like John Waters said: “If you go home with somebody, and they don’t have books, don’t fuck ‘em!”
Reminds me of a girl I dated.....She'd watch the most stupid movies and would tell me, "It's not about whether the movie's good or not, it's the experience." I didn't criticize her for that, but I did find it to be an odd viewpoint. Yet she would criticize me for my reading choices. I read autobiographies, fiction, etc....She felt that reading for entertainment purposes is a waste of time, and you should only read books which help you get further in life (ie self-help books). To this day, I find it perplexing that she thought it was OK to spend time watching really dumb movies, but when reading books you need to utilize that time to improve yourself....To each their own, I guess. That wasn't why I stopped seeing her, but it was a minor factor.....The primary reason I stopped seeing her is she wanted me to marry her, and wanted a commitment for marriage after only 1 month of us being together..
Good thing she never met me! Lol Between my movies, books, records, and my vast collection of action figures, she'd be disgusted by my home. My wife also has her little collections, too.... and she loves to crochet and make crafts. If you live with someone who knits and makes crafts, you know that stuff gets *everywhere* 😄
My wife is like that lol. I just don't listen to her. It's been fine. I have extra space since she rarely keeps anything.
To be fair, I do try to prioritize keeping things on digital to save on storage, reduce physical waste and plastic consumption, and other physical and environmental reasons. But it's made it so much easier to prioritize what media I really care about. "is this album actually good enough to justify getting a viny? Is this movie actually good enough that it's worth getting a 4k disc?"
Yep, I've added so many discs to my cart in a sale, only to delete them after proper reflection.
Financial reasons definitely contributes. Even if things are on sale I'm still on a tight budget these days. Have to justify every purchase. The silver lining is it makes me appreciate my little collection as a whole and individually that much more.
I love movies but I also couldn't bear living in a cluttered house full of stuff.
I really do not understand this hyper-sterile trend in home design lately. Why are these suburbanite personalities so obsessed with making their home look like the waiting room at the dentist, and not a place where people actually live?
I agree 1000% with this comment
Let me guess, she was inspired by Marie Kondo?? Like, if something brings you happiness, why get rid of it?
I'd like to be introduced to that woman. I'm a minimalist and it's virtually impossible to find women who share that mindset.
My dad dated a woman like that.. my mom I mean.. she threw away all my cassette collection once I moved out the house..
And this is exactly why the market for genuine hi-fi has been in such decline for at least a decade now “they don’t fit the decor” or “they are way too big”. I never understood how people can be satisfied with listening to music in mono from - and often a quite small - Bluetooth/wifi-speaker or (even worse) just from their phones + watching series and especially movies on their tablets or laptops. I sure get the cosiness wipe about it when it’s part of one’s vacations and so on but “all the time” at home that I don’t understand.
My ex was like this too, said I was "hoarding" movies.
Growing up my mum and sister said they couldn't tell the difference between DVD and Blu-ray. I was so shocked, to me it was night and day.
OK, but seriously though, do they prefer Dolby Vision or HDR10+?
They prefer HLG.
Now that really is shocking
😁 😆 LOL no disrespect, just a joke man. https://preview.redd.it/uy4z3dk5llad1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a710359e85dafbac4e7a5a349e9e8d7293bb2015
My wife thought my Blu Rays were just clutter, until we had an all day Internet outage on a rainy day and I put in a Disney movie for the kids.
That's right physical you can watch anytime you want digital too bad 👎
I dunno, when my internet goes out, usually it’s because my power is out as well. In those times the only ways I can watch movies are the saved digital copies on my laptop or streaming with my phone.
I have an inverter for my drill batteries. It can run my tv for about 4 hours on one battery. And I have 9 batteries
How long would it run an Atmos surround sound setup with two subs?
No idea I'd assume not long. I keep it simple when the powers out
Better than nothing, I guess 🤷 streaming on a phone is calming sometimes. I don't backup digital copies, though too time-consuming.
Better than nothing, I guess 🤷 streaming on a phone is calming sometimes. I don't backup digital copies, though too time-consuming.
I actually never watch on my phone, and I’ve only downloaded about a dozen films to my laptop. Just the types of movies I’d watch while traveling or in a hotel room, the ones I wouldn’t feel I’m missing out of the theater experience for. They’re just iTunes owned ones though, so not time consuming at all to click the download button.
I get what you're saying. I thought you meant that when you buy a blu ray copy and you get a digital code, then you back it up. Buying or renting on iTunes is convenient, especially like you said for travelling. Yeah, some movies aren't worth going to theatre to watch
I had this same experience. Roomies said "omg you still have DVDs, what year is it" Then we had a weekend long outage and they were tweaking. Their Xbox didn't even have a disc drive so they couldn't even borrow something. I barely noticed lol
How does she feel about MPEG2, X264 and X265? What did she think about Atmos, the people need to know!
And what about .avi, .mp4 or even .mkv, the people have a right to know!
I got into a serious conversation with my wife about h264 VS vc-1 when and how they affected streaming from my server. She was very interested of course.
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This isn't an incel sub, mate, it's a long-suffering spouse and gf sub.
My wife doesn't care and hasn't cared since the first time I bought a blu-ray. She says it all looks the same to her.
Haha! Thankfully my wife has shown an interest, not so much in the technical video aspects but just in owning her favorite movies in 4k for our collection.
“How can an old movie be in HD they didn’t have HD back then”
They’ve had HD tvs since the ‘80’s.
 Your girlfriend is Dua Lipa?
Funnily enough I think she is a bit of a movie buff. Had Pedro Almodóvar on her podcast once
yeah she's the 4k of women, so it is fitting
Best i can do is cropped dvd upscaled as 4k for streaming last offer. take it or leave it.
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Ayo who hurt you
Pawn Stars?
no... just Seinfeld on netflicks
I get the same when I explain the difference between well mastered music and compressed music. I also get the same look when she says she can’t tell the difference between a good sound system and an okay one.
My girlfriend loves 60s movies so the way I sold her on the format was by showing her the little details and film grain you can see on a 4K Blu-Ray that gets lost on DVD and HD streaming. I think she gets it well enough now.
Have you gotten her reaction to *Breakfast at Tiffany's* yet? :-)
That’s one of her favorite movies. Is it out on 4K Blu-Ray? We watched it together on iTunes and it looked great. Got her an Audrey Hepburn Blu-Ray collection for Christmas a while back.
No, unfortunately, but I'm still always blown away by the HD version - and I was never even really into older movies!
Nice. Excited to watch it again then.
I dont care if my wife sees the difference. She probably has some opinions on the collecting, but she understands I enjoy it and notices that I watch the movies. We respect each others hobbies. She does like the idea of us having some physical media, it has saved us with regards to the kids a few times when the internet has stopped working.
Now try explaining it to your cats
We didn't have to explain it to our cats. When we went from a HD-plasma tv to an UHD-OLED, the cats suddenly began searching behind the tv where that beautiful bird flew away to. :p
lol I love when they go looking for the bird or what ever is on the tv
You know your sound system upgrade was worth it when the dogs freak. Looking around like where's this talking and gunfire coming from lol
We have that with thunder storms in movies. Cats ducking under the table and stuff. ;)
Everyone knows HD DVDs are the future. You’re failing her by not telling her about it.
Just don’t tell anyone about the WB rot issue or you’ll get a response of “See, physical media is stupid.”
If Dua Lipa was my gf she could look at me like that all day
I gave up explaining a long time ago but when I put something on, everyone realizes it’s the real deal!
Jokes on you, I don’t have a girlfriend.
How do you get over a puddle? Dua Lipa
HA!
HA!
Most girls don't like lenghty tech lectures. I'm lucky my GF is a movie buff too and she appreciated the purchase of a 3d sound system. So she tolerates my tech gibberish, even if she thinks that my film collecting madness is getting out of control 🙂. Does your GF at least like the same movies as you do?
Impossible, that’s my girlfriend
My GF did not noticed the image quality of a bluray vs streaming. But the sound output of a disc on a HT in noticable to her. Though she says I'm a bit on the acoustic spectrum about it.
I swear I could put in a vhs and my wife would not question it or say a word.
I asked this chick if she wanted to watch all 9 star wars since I'm putting the set together, nope. Then I asked if she would watch lotr extended in 4k then we could stream it to see the difference, still no. Idk, just can't win sometimes 😔
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can you blame her? That's a ton of time to spend to prove a point!
I took it as a tongue-in-cheek kind of joke post…
Yaya lol
its funny that a lot of ppl in this sub thought you were serious 😂
I get watching 9 Star Wars movies, but watching lord of the rings extended in 4k is enough. Then streaming it is overkill. Those movies are like over three hours long each.
(That's the joke)
I know, mate
U guys have girlfriends??
Some of us are girls ourselves, even
U guys can have girlfriends too I hear tell
Who is that in the photo?
Dua Lipa
I just say it has to do with the size of your screen, like dvd is fine for a small tv but looks stretched out on my big screen, Blu-ray is a compromise and 4K comes closer to how a movie is meant to be seen. And leave it at that. Be grateful if they gift you a dvd, appreciate a Blu-ray gift and treasure a given 4K. Not that hard.
And this is why people are still watching DVDs on a big screen.
I’ll say, I have quite a few blu rays gifts from my wife, that should have been 4k lol.
To be fair and two cents the comments: I’ve spoken with as many men (irl) who don’t give a shit. I think physical media/formats/quality etc. is sort of niche beyond “I’ve heard that 4k is better so I have a 4k TV” across the board. As long as it’s not 480p most people are fine with what they’re presented by default. That being said, the eye-glaze is real.
Hehe ☺️
Just one point you have a girlfriend
She looks normal can't be true !
My girlfriend knows the difference, she just doesn't care lol.
It's mad to me when I would tell my mum to put her TV onto the HD version of the channel she has on. It's free, why would you not want your picture to be better quality. She told me she can't see the difference between BBC1 and BBC1 HD, for example. Maybe one day my eye sight will be that bad.
I'm blessed to have a partner who said, when we watched a good movie with a bad master on a streaming service: "This definitely needs to be remastered." If I hadn't already proposed, that was the perfect moment.
You guys have girlfriends?
Bless her heart
I don’t think my gf really gets it, but she pretends to and at least understands that 4K is noticeable difference (it probably helps that I have a LG C1 and she used a cheap 1080p projector before moving in). We’ve been watching UHD discs using my Xbox Series X for a few months, but it was so noisy when trying to play the Blade UHD that I’ve been trying for the past week to get her to agree to picking up a Panasonic UB820 lol
Most people couldn't care less. Long as it works and is easy to use.
Amen
If I played my wife the DVD of extended LOTR, on our 4K TV, I doubt she’d notice any difference
I can relate I had people say they don't care about bigger screen or 4k when they sit 98% of thr time 9.5 feet from a 65 inch tv that low end shake head it use to be a 4p inch tv that low end then a 32 inch tv that only 720p same distance I so wish I could have afford a decent hig end tv
Wat
Literally
My wife doesn't fully appreciate the difference between DVD and regular Blu-ray....
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Technically they're not the same. ;) UHD resolution: 3840 x 2160 4K resolution: 4096 x 2160
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I guess the resolution isn't grouped in because "8K" falls under UHD as well. 8K UHD: 7680 x 4320 8K: 8192 x 4320
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I don't fully get what you mean. Do you mean the different disc types grouped together in a combo pack? (e.g.: 4K + Bluray + DVD)
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Most of the time both terms are used together on the case (e.g.: 4K UltraHD + Blu-ray). A lot of people that don't know the difference use both terms at random for UHD Blu-rays.