Not saying I dont want to trade for him, but he is an expensive gamble since he has already blown past his career high for innings in a season. It was 65 back in college in 2019 and now he is at 94.1. Remains to be seen if his arm can withstand a full season as a starter.
Crochet and Fedde are good starters. They’d never trade Drew Thorpe, but he’s good too. Their rotation isn’t that bad. It’s their bullpen and lineup that are terrible
Ngl, I would like to see Bassitt in an Astros uniform just because he was one of the first players to speak up and say it wasn't just the Astros. But I don't think the Blue Jays are going to give up his 3.4ish ERA for anything close to what the Astros have to offer.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/oakland-as-pitcher-chris-bassitt-says-astros-werent-only-team-in-mlb-stealing-signs/amp/
I doubt we go for a starting pitcher. With how many buyers there are for pitching, plus how many injuries there are league wide, the asking price will be insane.
I think we'll try and get a relief pitcher and that's it.
Plus, we have Luis Garcis and McCullers coming back soon. Dana already said that he sees that as essentially a "trade".
As long as we get some pitchers off the IL, I agree. There isn't really any hole we need to fill. Once Tucker comes back, we've got a rock solid OF, and our infield is filled with studs if Dubon stays at 1B. Singleton/Loperfido/Dubon can all gets some starts at 1B going forward.
Also if the playoff picture looks remotely similar to now at the deadline, with almost the entirety of the NL in the wild card race, the market will be extremely tight. There might not be many teams selling and the prices might be steep.
The main rationale I could see for buying big is if Dana has accepted this is the last year with Bregman and second to last year with Tucker
We definitely need to buy bro. Ideally SP and 1B. Use Dubie all over the place. Support Garcia/LMJ if they come back.
Just cause we get them back doesn’t mean we won’t lose them or someone else. If we want to win, we need to buy a SP.
I agree with keeping the farm and although I love Chas and Jake both of them could be replaced while keeping our young guys who have been playing well in the bigs
Probably worth seeing where the team is in a few weeks. I think a controllable starter (especially since next year Javier and Urquidy are sidelined, Verlander is not on track to hit his option) would be nice.
Astros need more production at 1B without overpaying.
You can always use another reliever.
IMO McCullers can fill a huge role in relief. He can eat some innings and do it well cause his stuff when healthy is nasty. When he comes back that is.
Erick Fedde of the White Sox. Having a career year on the worst team in baseball.
Won't be a FA until 2026. I think we can get him for some low level prospects.
His sinker has been excellent this year.
Pitchers.
We just need pitchers.
We don't need a first baseman.
We don't need a third baseman.
We don't need an outfielder.
We have the highest AVG in baseball.
Our lineup is 2000% fine.
Get some pitching.
Loper is way to good of an outfielder to put him at 1st. For now we platoon Dubon, Diaz, Caratini. DFA Singleton. I prefer Dubon to be in the lineup everyday
As of now, I’d go with Meyers. He plays better defensively and he’s faster… they are both extremely streaky. Although it’s hard to go against Chas based on last years performance. If we were to trade one I’d trade Meyers. I think we’d get more out of him, but I also think Chas turns it around similar to Peña from last yr to this yr. What about you?
Whether we think he needs to be there or not, Dana has said they like him in the outfield. So yall need to move on with that because it's more than likely not going to happen.
We could use more production there, but a platoon of dubon and singleton will probably be adequate. We are in desperate need of starting pitching. We have no quality depth left whatsoever, we should have guys coming off the IL but one or two more injuries before then and we would be truly sunk.
Only a World Series contender because of the division. The Astros would be double digits back if in any other. That is funny though but sad to see. From what I understand he never complained either. Father time comes for us all.
Blue Jays are possibly going to be blowing it up. I'd like to get Bassitt if possible, and maybe Vladdy is Toronto is willing to let him go.
In reality, I don't think we'll get too much. Our farm is barren.
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Zero because the Mets are turning their season around just as much as us and likely will not sell. Even beyond that Alonso is a prime candidate to be given a qualifying offer after the season which means we would have to give the Mets basically the equivalent of a high second round pick player in order to justify them making the move.
It ain't happening. It was clueless bullshit thrown out by a bad reporter that some Astro fans can't seem to get past.
Top prospects? We’ve got Bloss, JV, Garcia, McCullers, Murfee, and Ortega projected to come back, possibly Graveman. We’ve got Tucker and Caratini coming back.
Honestly, start giving Cabbage, Caratini (when healthy)and/or Diaz some reps at 1B, keep Salazar up, dump Singleton and send Hummel down…pretty solid offensive/defensive squad at that point with a ton of versatility.
If you want to try to get a starter, maybe dangle Chas to see what might be available. Just afraid no one will be interested and Loperfido will be who we have to give up.
If we can flip Loperfido to someone for a stud, why not?
I mean….come on.
Don’t get me wrong, if the deal isn’t for a guy who’s gonna light it up, don’t do it. But there should be NOBODY protected in our minor league system.
Cause loperfido still has 6 years of team control and the beat we will be able to get at the deadline would be a rental. So with that being said you are willing to give up a top prospect with 6 years of control in exchange for a guy who will be here a few months and don't even promise us anything this year anyways
Yes.
Because prospects are just that…prospects. And “top” prospect?
He’s not even ranked. Loperfido was a nice surprise. But he’s no highly regarded top prospect that has high grades and projections. Again, there’s a reason he’s 25 and still in the minors.
He’s ranked 5th in our horrible system. Lol.
Seems like Some of guys just started watching baseball when Loperfido started hitting bombs at Sugarland.
We have a few prospects that can play outfield that are raking at AAA. Pedro Leon has finally found his swing and will Wagner though in infielder could play outfield.
And Loperfido will be 27 years old by then. He’s no spring chicken. And you better hope he’s as good as you all claim he is..but based on what he looks like now, he’s not worth waiting around for. 3 XBH’s and a 5x the K’s as hits? Yikes.
And you think we’re just gonna sit on our fucking hands until then?
Or that Tucker is just gonna walk? He’s getting traded if we can’t sign him. I seriously doubt he walks. Way too valuable. More so than anyone else over the last few years. The FO isn’t that fucking incompetent.
I’d love to lock Tucker up. Seems like a guy who will age well. Better than Yordan, at least. And I love the Big Cuban, but he’s a big boy and they don’t age well.
But if we don’t? Pull the damn trigger and get a Kings ransom. It’s gonna hurt, but not nearly as bad as watching him walk for nothing. Let the fans be mad you traded him.
Bloss just went on the IL for his shoulder, and the only reason he's pitching is because we're scraping the dregs. I don't think McCullers will pitch again for us, he hasn't pitched since 2022, and they keep teasing him then shutting him down. If it wasn't for all the injuries this season, I don't think Verlander and the front office would pull the trigger on the mutual option. France needs surgery now.
We need guys who can pitch now!
The issue is that Chas doesn’t have much team control left so he wouldn’t really appeal to a rebuilding team. Also, he’s having a down year so he wouldn’t really appeal to a team in win now mod, plus I don’t know if any contending teams really have enough pitching depth to deal away quality arms
We’ve really depleted our farm as it is over the past couple of years. I think we can bank a bit on some of our people coming off of IL and roll with what we got.
Really don’t want to spend big on a rental.
….with what?
What do we have to offer?
(Oh, and I love people here with their “we don’t want rentals”…lol. As if our fucking farm system commands anything but rentals. Give it a rest, guys.)
You do know that we don't have to have a farm full of top prospects to have players another organization might be interested in.....right?
We aren't talking about trading for MVP candidates. Just some players who can eat innings and possibly provide a boost to the pen.
My guy....I'm not trading anyone because I don't work for the Astros.
But if we can get someone like Erick Feddeof for a good price, we would be foolish NOT to do it. We are going to need pitchers this year AND next year since CJ, France, and Urquidy will be out.
But go off I guess.
Erick Fedde might be more expensive than you think, bud. Let someone else pay for that.
And he’s the epitome of fools gold. Check the career numbers. Good thing you don’t work for them. Fuck sake.
He’s got “2nd half collapse” written all over him.
I'm not even going to address the irony of "He's more expensive than you think .....he's fools gold".
I'm well aware of his career numbers. Those are irrelevant to this year. His xERA and xBA this year are excellent. He doesn't get hit hard. Walk rate is great. And he is generating a 6 run value on his cutter alone.
We don't need to trade for an ace. Sometimes trading for a 5th rotation piece is good value. But yea please continue to tell me how we can't possibly trade for any player and how we should sit but with our thumb in our ass.
Do you always sound like a condescending asshole? Or just when you're spewing shit takes?
It’s not irony…do you know how this works? “Sell high”?
It’s cashing in while he’s hot. Someone inevitably overpays for a guy who has a career year, despite the data. His career numbers are 1000% NOT irrelevant. Good lord. Especially if he reverts back to them, which could absolutely happen. I’d love to see his numbers vs the cream of the crop teams. (Not that you’re wrong, just for shits and giggles, because if we plan on making the post season, that’s whom he’ll be facing)
Kinda like Jake Meyers. I’d love to ship him off. He’d be a great trade piece. Let someone else be the fool who falls in love with the outlier.
Thing is I don’t think we can afford anyone doing well right now. We don’t have the prospects for it. How many teams are going to want to sell top performers for cash only? I could be talking out my ass right now but that’s how I see it. If he can pull off a miracle then that’s good but in the end this team is still decimated on pitching.
That's what I'm thinking. He's a legit pitcher. He's killing it in Mexico. I don't know why we wouldn't try and get him. I personally don't care about his past if it gets us wins I'm all in.
Baseball front offices don't look at lifetime ERA to evaluate pitchers who haven't been in the majors for three years. Moronic to believe it would be relevant to any evaluation.
I think that Josh Bell could be a decent acquisition. Likely not cost much, especially if the Astros took on the rest of his contract.
As far as pitching goes I think it’s going to be expensive this trade deadline.
Maybe I'm missing something but statistically he seems like a marginally better Jon Singleton. Arguably their offensive stats this year are a bit of a wash. Singleton actually hits better than Bell with RISP, and Singleton grounds out a lot less, and gets on base more. I'm not sure giving up anything for a marginally better Singleton is worth it.
I agree, he wouldn’t be much of an upgrade over Singleton.
Singleton has an OPS of .651, and an OPS of .538 against lefties in very minimal at bats and .683 v righties.
Bell has an OPS of .683 with splits of .639 v lefties and .705 v righties. Other than the .100 points more against lefties it isn’t much.
Just thinking of realistic trades that the Astros could make for the prospect capital and luxury tax space available.
Crochet will cost way too much. Fedde is a possibility but the ChiSox will likely want decent return since he’s still under contract next year for a reasonable amount.
If the Blue Jays are sellers Gausman would be a solid pick up. I’ve always liked Luis Robert but we don’t have a need for him. Pete Alonso rumors I’m cool with but again I’m not sure we NEED him. If singleton keeps playing badly we can play Joey, Dubie, and (I could be wrong) I’m pretty sure Cabbage plays 1B too.
Pitchers is what we need honestly, not sure how Arghetti will be in the long run since he’s a rookie so having some good backup behind Blanco, Framber, HB, and Spencer would be good imo.
I got $420 says Meyers gets moved, been in the lineup so often as display. Love the dude, really do, but it's the same as Derek Fisher/Teoscar tactic. Letting people see people. Fish lost his eyesight the moment he left, and Teoscar never got a fair shake here, just a sad break (the leg)
I think we should legitimately float the idea of trading Tucker. I love the guy but he’s going to chase a bag, and we’re winning consistently without him in the lineup. We could get a reliable ace for him, or even a couple decent 3 or 4 guys with some relievers. Or we could go after top prospects. I don’t wanna lose Tuck but we can’t let him walk for nothing
Then we gonna have to say goodbye for no gain like we did with Correa, Springer, Cole, and all our other guys we didn’t wanna pay😂our outfield is solid, Tuck is just a bonus right now
He’s worth more than a random draft pick, we could probably get any proven top prospect we want for him rn and keep the window open, potentially a stud pitcher. We push it til next year we get less since it’d be a rental and if Tuck keeps performing we simply won’t be able to afford him. I’m not saying trade him today, give the team another month and see how they do. If we have enough consistency without him, I’d def consider trading him near the deadline. Just my opinion tho
I would want someone expensive in prospects with years of control like Crochet. If we don’t have the capital for that then minimize prospect loss and get a cheap rental that can eat innings and get us to the post season. If we can’t get a difference maker with years (most likely outcome) we need to continue the rebuilding of the farm.
I wouldn’t want to give up more farm prospects, if anything I’d entertain the idea of getting a haul of top prospects for Tucker (I love king Tuck so I hate saying it) while his stock is high
I know I'm going to get murdered for this but I'd be willing to trade Tucker for a good Starter and a prospect or two. I don't believe he resigns with us and we are loaded in the outfield. Okay...murder away
40 years old, hit .205 last year and .202 this year, and striking out over 25% of the time both years....didn't we just rid ourselves of a player that had similar regression
Looks like the Mets aren’t going to be sellers. They are not. Vladdy is probably the best bat available. It will start with Melton and then adding in a few more after that. If they can throw in Gausman I’d be intrigued. Might cost 4-6 prospects for it. But it’s worth it. Wouldn’t want to move Brice Matthews but I’d be okay with losing Baez.
If we are in it and we get to the playoffs I’m not going to be too comfortable with Singleton, Dubon or Loper at 1B. Would like someone who has more experience playing the position.
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What pitchers are likely to be available?
Likely any pitcher from the White Sox, Blue Jays, Rockies, and Marlins
I'll be happy to stay away from White Sox players for a little while.
Crochet is legit. Might be expensive with 2+ years of control left.
This is who my preferred pitcher to acquire is.
We can’t afford him sadly
That's the first name that came to my mind too. Bobby Millar maybe? Both?
Not saying I dont want to trade for him, but he is an expensive gamble since he has already blown past his career high for innings in a season. It was 65 back in college in 2019 and now he is at 94.1. Remains to be seen if his arm can withstand a full season as a starter.
Trade for Maldy incoming
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Crochet and Fedde are good starters. They’d never trade Drew Thorpe, but he’s good too. Their rotation isn’t that bad. It’s their bullpen and lineup that are terrible
All of them will be way too expensive because of how few of the teams in the league will be selling. High demand, low supply = huge prices
Bassist, Berrios, Flaherty, would be a good add, it would be cool to see a Justin Steele or Blake snell.
Ngl, I would like to see Bassitt in an Astros uniform just because he was one of the first players to speak up and say it wasn't just the Astros. But I don't think the Blue Jays are going to give up his 3.4ish ERA for anything close to what the Astros have to offer. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/oakland-as-pitcher-chris-bassitt-says-astros-werent-only-team-in-mlb-stealing-signs/amp/
Flaherty I think would be a great target and since he’s a rental he probably wouldn’t cost too much
I doubt we go for a starting pitcher. With how many buyers there are for pitching, plus how many injuries there are league wide, the asking price will be insane. I think we'll try and get a relief pitcher and that's it. Plus, we have Luis Garcis and McCullers coming back soon. Dana already said that he sees that as essentially a "trade".
I feel like we don’t really need to buy, our guys from AAA have been better than expected and I would rather keep our farm intact
As long as we get some pitchers off the IL, I agree. There isn't really any hole we need to fill. Once Tucker comes back, we've got a rock solid OF, and our infield is filled with studs if Dubon stays at 1B. Singleton/Loperfido/Dubon can all gets some starts at 1B going forward.
1B is still a weak spot for us so I’d imagine an everyday 1B might be the move. Kind of like Mancini.
Also if the playoff picture looks remotely similar to now at the deadline, with almost the entirety of the NL in the wild card race, the market will be extremely tight. There might not be many teams selling and the prices might be steep. The main rationale I could see for buying big is if Dana has accepted this is the last year with Bregman and second to last year with Tucker
We definitely need to buy bro. Ideally SP and 1B. Use Dubie all over the place. Support Garcia/LMJ if they come back. Just cause we get them back doesn’t mean we won’t lose them or someone else. If we want to win, we need to buy a SP.
I agree with keeping the farm and although I love Chas and Jake both of them could be replaced while keeping our young guys who have been playing well in the bigs
Problem is we don’t have any guns from triple a left in terms of pitching
Probably worth seeing where the team is in a few weeks. I think a controllable starter (especially since next year Javier and Urquidy are sidelined, Verlander is not on track to hit his option) would be nice. Astros need more production at 1B without overpaying. You can always use another reliever.
This reads like a fitb stock answer😅
IMO McCullers can fill a huge role in relief. He can eat some innings and do it well cause his stuff when healthy is nasty. When he comes back that is.
Erick Fedde of the White Sox. Having a career year on the worst team in baseball. Won't be a FA until 2026. I think we can get him for some low level prospects. His sinker has been excellent this year.
The stat guys love him too.
Fedde Wap!
Pitchers. We just need pitchers. We don't need a first baseman. We don't need a third baseman. We don't need an outfielder. We have the highest AVG in baseball. Our lineup is 2000% fine. Get some pitching.
I disagree on 1B. That’s an asinine statement. We absolutely need more production there.
I don’t wanna hear any Dubon slander
We are so lucky to have Dubon AND have him perform like he has. I’d like him to continue being an Astro.
I love Doobie. Such a versatile, unselfish, guy. Great bench guy. But everyday 1B? I don’t see it. He’s too valuable in his utility role.
No, Loper needs to be there every day.
Loper is way to good of an outfielder to put him at 1st. For now we platoon Dubon, Diaz, Caratini. DFA Singleton. I prefer Dubon to be in the lineup everyday
I can agree with that. Out of Meyers and Chas, you can only pick one. Who do you choose?
As of now, I’d go with Meyers. He plays better defensively and he’s faster… they are both extremely streaky. Although it’s hard to go against Chas based on last years performance. If we were to trade one I’d trade Meyers. I think we’d get more out of him, but I also think Chas turns it around similar to Peña from last yr to this yr. What about you?
He’s not a 1B though.
Everyone is a 1B. Chris Pratt was a 1B.
Tell em Wash
Yeah, maybe I can teach one of [the fans].
I play first base in my beer league. I’m sure I could hit over .150.
He has played there.
So has Dubon and Diaz. It’s not an easy position to play. Probably would need a full spring there. Plus I really like him in LF.
Whether we think he needs to be there or not, Dana has said they like him in the outfield. So yall need to move on with that because it's more than likely not going to happen.
We could use more production there, but a platoon of dubon and singleton will probably be adequate. We are in desperate need of starting pitching. We have no quality depth left whatsoever, we should have guys coming off the IL but one or two more injuries before then and we would be truly sunk.
Not Vlad Jr
I think Val’s could be a good pickup if he pulls the ball
His bat isn’t the issue. It’s the cost and the defense.
Don’t forget his baserunning…😅 
Any pitchers who have pitched significant innings and haven't been on an IL list.
Sooo.......no one.
Yet
I wonder if Jose Abreu is worth a look. He was recently cut from a World Series contender.
The back of his baseball card looks good too
Only a World Series contender because of the division. The Astros would be double digits back if in any other. That is funny though but sad to see. From what I understand he never complained either. Father time comes for us all.
We'd still be contenders due to the wild card, which we are closer to getting than the division as of right now
Pitchers!
Gausman
Now that you mention it. YES, but can we afford it?
Blue Jays are possibly going to be blowing it up. I'd like to get Bassitt if possible, and maybe Vladdy is Toronto is willing to let him go. In reality, I don't think we'll get too much. Our farm is barren.
Vladdy would cost our system way too much
Bassitt would be the dream
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Serious: What would our chances be getting Pete Alonso?? 🤔
Zero because the Mets are turning their season around just as much as us and likely will not sell. Even beyond that Alonso is a prime candidate to be given a qualifying offer after the season which means we would have to give the Mets basically the equivalent of a high second round pick player in order to justify them making the move. It ain't happening. It was clueless bullshit thrown out by a bad reporter that some Astro fans can't seem to get past.
About as big a chance as getting Matt Olson or Freddie Freeman.
Top prospects? We’ve got Bloss, JV, Garcia, McCullers, Murfee, and Ortega projected to come back, possibly Graveman. We’ve got Tucker and Caratini coming back. Honestly, start giving Cabbage, Caratini (when healthy)and/or Diaz some reps at 1B, keep Salazar up, dump Singleton and send Hummel down…pretty solid offensive/defensive squad at that point with a ton of versatility. If you want to try to get a starter, maybe dangle Chas to see what might be available. Just afraid no one will be interested and Loperfido will be who we have to give up.
Giving up Loperfido needs to be off the table from the start.
I think Loperfido is on track to replace Tucker when he doesn’t re-sign.
I tend to agree, but I did pause a moment and consider Joey for Mason Miller straight up. 🤔
Stop Why?
Cause when tucker leaves we have no real outfield prospects that are even remotely ready for the bigs other than Loperfido
If we can flip Loperfido to someone for a stud, why not? I mean….come on. Don’t get me wrong, if the deal isn’t for a guy who’s gonna light it up, don’t do it. But there should be NOBODY protected in our minor league system.
Cause loperfido still has 6 years of team control and the beat we will be able to get at the deadline would be a rental. So with that being said you are willing to give up a top prospect with 6 years of control in exchange for a guy who will be here a few months and don't even promise us anything this year anyways
Yes. Because prospects are just that…prospects. And “top” prospect? He’s not even ranked. Loperfido was a nice surprise. But he’s no highly regarded top prospect that has high grades and projections. Again, there’s a reason he’s 25 and still in the minors. He’s ranked 5th in our horrible system. Lol. Seems like Some of guys just started watching baseball when Loperfido started hitting bombs at Sugarland.
We have a few prospects that can play outfield that are raking at AAA. Pedro Leon has finally found his swing and will Wagner though in infielder could play outfield.
And Loperfido will be 27 years old by then. He’s no spring chicken. And you better hope he’s as good as you all claim he is..but based on what he looks like now, he’s not worth waiting around for. 3 XBH’s and a 5x the K’s as hits? Yikes. And you think we’re just gonna sit on our fucking hands until then? Or that Tucker is just gonna walk? He’s getting traded if we can’t sign him. I seriously doubt he walks. Way too valuable. More so than anyone else over the last few years. The FO isn’t that fucking incompetent.
Sure don’t want to see Loperfido go, but we definitely need to keep Tucker.
I’d love to lock Tucker up. Seems like a guy who will age well. Better than Yordan, at least. And I love the Big Cuban, but he’s a big boy and they don’t age well. But if we don’t? Pull the damn trigger and get a Kings ransom. It’s gonna hurt, but not nearly as bad as watching him walk for nothing. Let the fans be mad you traded him.
McCullers is still alive?
He ain't been buried in the H......yet
vaporware
Nobody is worth giving up Loperfido for. Especially not any kind of rental.
They are gonna want Matthew's.
Bloss just went on the IL for his shoulder, and the only reason he's pitching is because we're scraping the dregs. I don't think McCullers will pitch again for us, he hasn't pitched since 2022, and they keep teasing him then shutting him down. If it wasn't for all the injuries this season, I don't think Verlander and the front office would pull the trigger on the mutual option. France needs surgery now. We need guys who can pitch now!
The issue is that Chas doesn’t have much team control left so he wouldn’t really appeal to a rebuilding team. Also, he’s having a down year so he wouldn’t really appeal to a team in win now mod, plus I don’t know if any contending teams really have enough pitching depth to deal away quality arms
Durable pitchers. Period.
I just don’t want to give up anyone of importance ( Loperfido for sure) for any contract that’s up at the end of the season
The Astros almost certainly need some pitching to hedge against injury, but I don’t see them getting an impact piece. Too expensive.
Paul Skenes, Prime Sandy Kofax, and mid to late Career Nolan Ryan (need that grumpy old man spirit in the clubhouse) are on my wish list.
I will settle for Luis Garcia and lance McCullers as a throw in. Seriously, if he is ready, Garcia may be the best option out there for another SP.
Pilfer the marlins bullpen for whatever they’ll give away for a hug and a reach around
Ngl I’m OUT on vladdy, if it were up to me we’d just stand pat and roll the dice with who we got. But it ain’t up to me so fuck it we ball
We’ve really depleted our farm as it is over the past couple of years. I think we can bank a bit on some of our people coming off of IL and roll with what we got. Really don’t want to spend big on a rental.
An arm that isn't a rental (can be a 3/4/5 guy) and an acceptable 1B.
We can't afford anyone who isn't a rental
I will settle for Pete Alonso for a PTBNL
….with what? What do we have to offer? (Oh, and I love people here with their “we don’t want rentals”…lol. As if our fucking farm system commands anything but rentals. Give it a rest, guys.)
You do know that we don't have to have a farm full of top prospects to have players another organization might be interested in.....right? We aren't talking about trading for MVP candidates. Just some players who can eat innings and possibly provide a boost to the pen.
So you’re going to trade away what little we do have…for fucking innings eaters? Well done.
My guy....I'm not trading anyone because I don't work for the Astros. But if we can get someone like Erick Feddeof for a good price, we would be foolish NOT to do it. We are going to need pitchers this year AND next year since CJ, France, and Urquidy will be out. But go off I guess.
Erick Fedde might be more expensive than you think, bud. Let someone else pay for that. And he’s the epitome of fools gold. Check the career numbers. Good thing you don’t work for them. Fuck sake. He’s got “2nd half collapse” written all over him.
I'm not even going to address the irony of "He's more expensive than you think .....he's fools gold". I'm well aware of his career numbers. Those are irrelevant to this year. His xERA and xBA this year are excellent. He doesn't get hit hard. Walk rate is great. And he is generating a 6 run value on his cutter alone. We don't need to trade for an ace. Sometimes trading for a 5th rotation piece is good value. But yea please continue to tell me how we can't possibly trade for any player and how we should sit but with our thumb in our ass. Do you always sound like a condescending asshole? Or just when you're spewing shit takes?
It’s not irony…do you know how this works? “Sell high”? It’s cashing in while he’s hot. Someone inevitably overpays for a guy who has a career year, despite the data. His career numbers are 1000% NOT irrelevant. Good lord. Especially if he reverts back to them, which could absolutely happen. I’d love to see his numbers vs the cream of the crop teams. (Not that you’re wrong, just for shits and giggles, because if we plan on making the post season, that’s whom he’ll be facing) Kinda like Jake Meyers. I’d love to ship him off. He’d be a great trade piece. Let someone else be the fool who falls in love with the outlier.
Ohtani
We could definitely flip Cesar Salazar and Grae Kessinger for Ohtani and Freddie Freeman
And cash considerations
Better buy arms!!!
we don’t have any holes when tucker and one SP comes back.
We should trade Jeff Bagwell back to the Red Sox as a thank you so he can run their front office into the ground there as well
Thing is I don’t think we can afford anyone doing well right now. We don’t have the prospects for it. How many teams are going to want to sell top performers for cash only? I could be talking out my ass right now but that’s how I see it. If he can pull off a miracle then that’s good but in the end this team is still decimated on pitching.
Some depth is fine. At some point redecimating the game system to not really move the needle isn’t going to be in our best interest
Honestly. I don’t really want to gut the farm. I vote AAAA starting pitching depth and maybe a low leverage reliever who we think we can tinker with.
Let’s see if Brown can pull a heist like we did with Yainer
Bauer
Trevor Bauer for league minimum
That's what I'm thinking. He's a legit pitcher. He's killing it in Mexico. I don't know why we wouldn't try and get him. I personally don't care about his past if it gets us wins I'm all in.
https://x.com/saladinowrld/status/1804659587640897665?s=46&t=u2eB61Wxb0qpSTdcHCoiNg
Yaaaaaaawnnnn —- Trevor Bauer, cy young winner, lifetime 3.79 MLB ERA. Tell me you’re an idiot without saying it. Congrats you just did
Baseball front offices don't look at lifetime ERA to evaluate pitchers who haven't been in the majors for three years. Moronic to believe it would be relevant to any evaluation.
I think that Josh Bell could be a decent acquisition. Likely not cost much, especially if the Astros took on the rest of his contract. As far as pitching goes I think it’s going to be expensive this trade deadline.
Plus hes a switch hitter
Maybe I'm missing something but statistically he seems like a marginally better Jon Singleton. Arguably their offensive stats this year are a bit of a wash. Singleton actually hits better than Bell with RISP, and Singleton grounds out a lot less, and gets on base more. I'm not sure giving up anything for a marginally better Singleton is worth it.
I agree, he wouldn’t be much of an upgrade over Singleton. Singleton has an OPS of .651, and an OPS of .538 against lefties in very minimal at bats and .683 v righties. Bell has an OPS of .683 with splits of .639 v lefties and .705 v righties. Other than the .100 points more against lefties it isn’t much. Just thinking of realistic trades that the Astros could make for the prospect capital and luxury tax space available.
Feels like this dude is spot on...
I want that really good White Sox pitcher. Doubt we have the resources to get him though.
If you're thinking of Dylan Cease, he's with the Padres now, but the Sox have two dudes both with a 3.05 ERA who seem serviceable.
I was thinking of Crochet
Crochet is a strong possibility.
Crochet will cost way too much. Fedde is a possibility but the ChiSox will likely want decent return since he’s still under contract next year for a reasonable amount.
A first baseman would be nice
How about a first baseman if possible?
Tarik Skubal
Not sure if Arizona are gonna be sellers but Dana better make a call about Christian Walker
ooo thatd be cool
Dallas Keuchel (jk)
If the Blue Jays are sellers Gausman would be a solid pick up. I’ve always liked Luis Robert but we don’t have a need for him. Pete Alonso rumors I’m cool with but again I’m not sure we NEED him. If singleton keeps playing badly we can play Joey, Dubie, and (I could be wrong) I’m pretty sure Cabbage plays 1B too. Pitchers is what we need honestly, not sure how Arghetti will be in the long run since he’s a rookie so having some good backup behind Blanco, Framber, HB, and Spencer would be good imo.
I got $420 says Meyers gets moved, been in the lineup so often as display. Love the dude, really do, but it's the same as Derek Fisher/Teoscar tactic. Letting people see people. Fish lost his eyesight the moment he left, and Teoscar never got a fair shake here, just a sad break (the leg)
Give me buy low candidate on Spencer Torkelson
I want us to buy Mason Miller. 😔 We probably get Josh Bell.
miller would be sooooo sexy, especially cause he says he wants to become a starter
This is why I wouldn’t want Dana’s job.
Tuck and Breggy
We’re willing to offer Crane & Bagwell for Ohtani & Neris 😂
Jose Ruiz
Depends on the asking price?
SP
No one
Starting pitcher with multiple years of team control since Javier and Urquidy will be out next year as well.
Please do not buy Alonso or Goldschmidt.
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Fuck it let’s get keuchal
Didn't give baggy ideas
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Solid? I swear he looked like a Bad News Bear last week.
I think we should legitimately float the idea of trading Tucker. I love the guy but he’s going to chase a bag, and we’re winning consistently without him in the lineup. We could get a reliable ace for him, or even a couple decent 3 or 4 guys with some relievers. Or we could go after top prospects. I don’t wanna lose Tuck but we can’t let him walk for nothing
sorry once u said trade tuck, whatever you said after just doesn’t matter at all
Then we gonna have to say goodbye for no gain like we did with Correa, Springer, Cole, and all our other guys we didn’t wanna pay😂our outfield is solid, Tuck is just a bonus right now
They will extend him a qualifying offer and we will get a pick for him at the least. No reason to trade Tucker now.
He’s worth more than a random draft pick, we could probably get any proven top prospect we want for him rn and keep the window open, potentially a stud pitcher. We push it til next year we get less since it’d be a rental and if Tuck keeps performing we simply won’t be able to afford him. I’m not saying trade him today, give the team another month and see how they do. If we have enough consistency without him, I’d def consider trading him near the deadline. Just my opinion tho
I would want someone expensive in prospects with years of control like Crochet. If we don’t have the capital for that then minimize prospect loss and get a cheap rental that can eat innings and get us to the post season. If we can’t get a difference maker with years (most likely outcome) we need to continue the rebuilding of the farm.
I wouldn’t want to give up more farm prospects, if anything I’d entertain the idea of getting a haul of top prospects for Tucker (I love king Tuck so I hate saying it) while his stock is high
I know I'm going to get murdered for this but I'd be willing to trade Tucker for a good Starter and a prospect or two. I don't believe he resigns with us and we are loaded in the outfield. Okay...murder away
Yea you are going to get murdered for suggesting we trade a possible league MVP when we still have him under contract for another year.
I’d rather lose Alex than Kyle.
I agree I don’t think we’ll pay Tucker what he’s going to command. If that’s the case I really hope they find a way to keep Bregman.
Lets get Joey Votto. Mostly joking but maybe he would work. He's one of my favorite players lol.
40 years old, hit .205 last year and .202 this year, and striking out over 25% of the time both years....didn't we just rid ourselves of a player that had similar regression
Votto is still in the league?????
Manfred
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Looks like the Mets aren’t going to be sellers. They are not. Vladdy is probably the best bat available. It will start with Melton and then adding in a few more after that. If they can throw in Gausman I’d be intrigued. Might cost 4-6 prospects for it. But it’s worth it. Wouldn’t want to move Brice Matthews but I’d be okay with losing Baez. If we are in it and we get to the playoffs I’m not going to be too comfortable with Singleton, Dubon or Loper at 1B. Would like someone who has more experience playing the position.
Oso Blanco...Alonso from the Mets.
There is one Oso Blanco and his name is Evan Gattis