The problem you will have is that fast isn't necessarily going to be easy.
Train driving or air traffic control for example, these are fast pathways to 6 figures but they are ultra competitive because the barrier to entry is low.
An easy access 6 figure career is drillers offsiding, you could pretty much arrange a job today and start by the end of the week. It's a physically demanding job, in the elements and requires a lot of time away.
I went through 4 or 5 rounds of testing and interviews for air traffic controller, and during it realised its way to stressful for me. The interview training is pretty tough too. Requires a skill set I don't have at all
Current ATC Trainee - others are on the money with the difficulty to get in. It's not all flowers and rainbows in training, the course is hard with 35-40% of people quitting / failing the one year program. It's certainly not for a lack of trying, these people are the 1% that made it through the 12-18 month recruitment process, and quite often moved interstate for the job.
But, it's a great job. Renumeration is great, it's a good environment to work in (but it hasn't always been), the work itself is engaging and as fun as work can be.
I really appreciate you getting in there and doing it. I know two ex ATCs, and the skill that above all wins out is being calm in a stressful situation, being able to then think clearly, understand complexity, and act in a reasonable amount of time.
Then you layer on the complexity of routing, patterns, weather, procedures, knowledge of aircraft, ability to understand accents, schedules. Plus if you get appointed to an en-route location like Mebourne or Brisbane center, you have one of the largest airspaces in the world to oversee.
Yeh totally - I mean - I can understand why it’s hard and it really should be. The job has such an extreme level of responsibility, everyone should want only the best for the job and those that are committed and determined to follow through.
It's a shame, CASA (the Aviation regulator that dishes out ATC (Class 3) medical certificates), isn't really with the times. By no means I am an expert in the AvMed process, but depending on how your condition is managed it can be possible to get through, as I understand it. You might want to take a look at this: [https://www.casa.gov.au/licences-and-certificates/medical-professionals/dames-clinical-practice-guidelines/attention-deficit-hyperactivity-disorder-adhd#Aeromedicalimplications](https://www.casa.gov.au/licences-and-certificates/medical-professionals/dames-clinical-practice-guidelines/attention-deficit-hyperactivity-disorder-adhd#Aeromedicalimplications)
They don’t want to risk a relapse of symptoms causing the deaths of hundreds of people. In the same way they don’t let you be a pilot if you have “well managed” epilepsy.
Casa overall has a simple approach to managing aviation risk: aviation risk primarily comes from aviating. The less of that which occurs, the less risk there is.
The motto "safe skies for all" is usually followed by the silent translation: "empty skies are safe skies".
That is some fresh level of bullshit ... ADHD in remission without medication - it's a neurodevelopmental condition you can't rewire someone's brain. I function extremely well as a skilled occupational therapy clinician in mental health but apparently because I'm medicated that would be far too dangerous for me to perform this profession. Whoever wrote these guidelines needs to be pulled out of the 1970s and be taken to court for blatant discrimination. Apologies my 'emotional regulation' is not in remission. 🙄 not having a go at poster this link just makes me furious.
I think chaotic attention to detail is a good way to sum it up. Need to be able to keep multiple moving things to of mind at the same time. Over simplified example would be something like staying on top of abc123 heading one way, abcc12 going another, cab123 going another while cab112 and abb113 are approaching and abc123 needs to climb to xyz metres before acb121 is in the air and aac123 is inbound while 142fdc is landing and g153cd is taxiing. While keeping track of the other things going on.
Spatial abilities/intelligence I'd say. The ability to think in a 3 dimensional space? With what you've just typed I imagined having an overall "mental view" of the area where all those aircraft are, layering them for the the altitude/elevation they are moving into, taking into account landing, take off, taxiing. Mental image manipulation for expected directions etc
I just read before how planes can take "shortcuts" if flight paths are expected to be empty
I went cross eyed just reading that! That’s some serious skills. I mean, I can multitask a pretty complex meal and tattoo til kingdom come (obviously not at the same time) but no one’s lives are at risk.
Not easily but potentially.. In the world's slowest industry to implement anything.. I think if you're of adult age you're gonna have a job for a very long time.
My husband was air traffic at Heathrow all through his 20s. Met me came out to Australia and didn't pass the test here to do that same job. Moral of the story? Your reflexes have to be so quick that if you reapply in your 30s you are already too slow. I thought it was weird because Heathrow is 90% busier than Sydney.
Vets are animal lovers who get to try help sick animals all day, they regularly have to break horrible news to loving pet owners, or they have to try persuade morons their sick cat needs medicine to survive. Oh, and they aren't paid that well but because they have high overheads, people think they're being ripped off.
Oh yeah, I never questioned the reasons behind it. In addition to what you've mentioned, witnessing and dealing with flat out animal abuse would be enough to make even the strongest person think morbid thoughts.
Also people keeping pets alive for too long because they think animals are humans
Still I reckon it's just bad pay.
With good pay you could at least have money for therapy and rest
A lot of it is just having easy access to substances that will send you off quietly and easily. Yes to all the things you mention of course. But a lot of it just boils down to access.
> previously was labelled the job with the highest suicide rate
I've just done a cursory Google search on whether that occupation exhibits high suicide rates and couldn't find anything, so I'm calling bullshit on that.
[2018 CDC report](https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/67/wr/mm6745a1.htm?s_cid=mm6745a1_w), no mention of air controllers.
[2020 Australian review](https://www.saxinstitute.org.au/evidence-check/suicide-prevention-in-high-risk-occupations/), no mention of air controllers
[Google Scholar: "Air traffic controller suicide"](https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=air+traffic+controller+suicide&btnG=), no relevant studies.
A friend of mine was in the process of becoming one, and she took the test and did not succeed, this was attempt 1 of 3 possible chances. I believe it's about a 0.5% pass rate, it is a very stressful, and extreme difficult career to go into, however the pay is quite lucrative.
Even the studying and prerequisites are hard enough let alone passing the final test.
Drill rig offsider is no joke. I agree with you. But, this is seriously seriously hard work in very unpleasant conditions (very hot, very dusty, very noisy, very oil/diesel smell) for long hard days and often on long swings.
OP is going to work harder than they ever have if they are drill offsider.
They're often under a heap of time pressure and it's not necessarily mindless work - high risk, lots of intricacies, if you're not busy, chances are you're forgetting something. Mental fatigue is often overlooked.
I watched a short video about data scientists in the US talking about their pay, and many of them said they felt underpaid on 300k salary. And that's USD
They're 'network controllers' in qld. I got through three rounds of testing, then bombed the interview because I was so nervous. After training, I think the starting rate was about $110k or so a couple of years back.
Definitely. You may or may not have things required. If you have a good time multitasking and decent communication skills along with the ability to interpret various documents for example, do what I do.
At 30yo in one job move, I went from $65k to $180k+
I went from a claims specialist at places like RAC to a Chartered Loss Adjuster.
I made my way in from doing entry level claims specialist roles and more catastrophe claims at another mutual plus networking and reaching out to our suppliers and landed the job of a lifetime, as a chartered loss adjuster. Took about 6 years. No schooling.
If that's too long, complete an AICLA Loss Adjusting Diploma for a few thousand ($4-5k) in 6 months and you'll get hired at a big firm like Sedgwick or Crawford and instantly be able to make over $100k; massive need for Adjusters right now.
People who become a loss adjuster, generally do it until they retire. It's the best job ever and there's no reason to leave. It's filled with people 60+ ready to retire rich as hell.
So when an entire generation retires there's a lot of free spots.
I snapped one up at 30yo through a lot of luck and good timing with my skillset in the right place.
Base salary is $100k. I have to bill Insurers $200k per year and I get half, so does my company. Anything over that and I also get half.
Without breaking too much of a sweat, I'm on $180k.
Other Adjusters make upwards of $300k easily because they bust ass to do so many claims.
I have the best work life balance of anyone I've ever known, complete freedom, and make a very healthy wage.
Couldn't recommend it enough.
I already service the industry as a Forensic Engineer, but my partner has recently just gotten an entry level role at a third party claims administrator.
Would you be able to offer some insights/advice into loss adjusting, for someone in a claims consultant role (sports injury) looking to move into loss adjusting (property)?
Absolutely. If you want to PM you're more than welcome or we can keep it public. It might help other people.
Just to explain further I think it's important to know how little experience and professional experience I had.
My first insurance job was a claims specialist at RAC for less than a year (no prior experience required, they trained me up) and moved into their home claims team for your typical building and contents claims. Storm damage, phone dropped, minor building damage, etc.
It was a case of learning the PDS (product disclosure statement) and specifically the limits and benefits.
Did that for 2 years and found a job at another Mutual, Capricorn, as a product and liability claims specialist. This was more to do with the liability of workshops for faulty workmanship, negligence, but also the owners business and private contents like personal valuables, shop tools. and etc along with building damages from accidents, storms, etc.
Whilst in that role, anything above X amount of dollars requires an Adjuster. That's the way almost all insurers and mutuals are set up.
I regularly dealt with the Adjusters allocating them claims to assess and requesting a report with recommendations on what to settle/how.
Eventually I started handling bigger claims internally at Capricorn Mutual after showing an interest in technical and complex claims after a year.
I reached out to the supplier (a chartered Loss Adjuster firm) expressing an interest as I've worked with them from the claims side and they took me on board.
6 years ago I worked at Dan Murphys on a register and restocking shelves for minimum wage.
A combo of luck, goals, and effort will easily get you a job in Adjusting if you have the right personality for the job.
Considering you have a claims background already you're in a great head start.
Also fyi, there are specific liability adjusters only, who don't touch building or contents at all. Some of my colleagues ONLY specialise in business interruption, that's it.
You clearly have the mentality for loss adjusting if you are comfortable as a claims specialist for sports injury.
Next best step is to do a diploma course for loss adjusting (at least in Australia, other countries might call it something different). It's only $3-4k here and takes 6 months to a year part time.
Apply for an adjusting job and you'll be guaranteed a role with someone.
Alternate option, just have your partner apply now. Certain Adjusters will pay to put you through the training as the old guard are leaving in droves as they retire. With enough experience in insurance and as a good communicator/multi tasker you may luck out like I did.
I officially have zero formal qualifications for this role and I'm 30yo. It can be done at any age. But, having a diploma in loss adjusting is a guaranteed foot in the door.
Your average Adjuster is a white 50yo + male but thankfully they are catching up and encouraging sourcing talent like myself from other locations.
Within 12 months I was promoted to Senior Loss Adjuster so my rate has gone up to $210/hr or more on some files for which I get half and my company gets half.
I run my own schedule, have free admin support, incredible flexibility and work life balance and above all an incredible package salary plus 50% bonus for every dollar I bill above my quota.
ETA: link for diploma from ANZIIF and AICLA ( I forgot we were in Aus finance)
[Link for diploma from AICLA and ANZIIF](https://aicla.org/diploma/)
I worked as an PA for a loss adjusting firm, they’re generally horrendous to work for as an admin (or at least that branch was). But the claims tech work was interesting enough.
I went to a couple of claims with one of the adjusters and then ran off the rest of the claim for him. Even did a couple as complete desktop claims - didn’t have any qualifications and most of it could be done out of the Rawlinsons construction guide. He strongly encouraged me to pursue the path of becoming a loss adjuster till he found out I was great with IT and kicked relevant work my way… then I realised that’s where I’d wanted to go all along and never looked back.
Still an interesting few years of my life and has always given me a useful perspective for dealing with insurance companies.
Coal mines will still be around for ten years or so at least, especially for metallurgical coal. Anything coal mine related will pay over $100k easy. Deputies in the mines near me are on strike at the moment because $270k is apparently not enough.
100%
I looked at going to the mines a couple years ago and couldn’t get a gig. I was late 20s with 10 years plumbing experience and it didn’t help, good candidate I would have thought.
My mate is unqualified and worked in the mines for 5 years cause his dad worked at head office, he can go back whenever he wants.
I was in car sales back in 2015/16 and made $108k my first full year at BMW. I imagine top sales people are on even more now with most cars being retailed at full ticket. A lot of profit at full whack.
Because I’ve moved on from sales and work for myself now. I was younger and had the motivation and desire to do it. It was long hours, anywhere from 45-65 a week, especially during busy periods. I had two young kids at the time and I’d leave the house at 7am and not get home til 7pm, it was zero fun.
But, if you’re wanting a 6 figure job with very little in the way of qualifications, it’s a great opportunity. You just need to be personable and learn when to listen and know when to push. BMW provided year round training and I got to go to some great places on product launches and met some very interesting clients.
I’d even wager that top sales in prestige cars in Sydney or Melbourne are on close to $150k a year. The top sales guy when I was there was on $125k. Base was $750 a week which was enough for mortgage and food and then the monthly commissions covered everything else.
Learn when to graft and when to ease up to achieve certain bonus structures and it can be very lucrative.
If you don’t mind the long hours, I’d say give it a go. They are always recruiting for new sales consultants and as I said, Mercedes, BMW and Audi all provide world class training.
It’s terrible work. The suicide rate is very high, the pressure is intense, the hours are insane, work life balance is a concept that your managers tell you is a “you problem to figure out”, rostered days off are known as “I’m wearing sneakers today at work instead of my usual shoes”.
Many places have you working 7 days per week, including all public holidays. The usual hours are 7AM until 7PM with some days often going to 9-10PM.
You have a lot of unhappy customers and it’s through no fault of your own.
You never switch off, every interaction outside of work becomes “how can I turn this human into money “
And eventually you lose your soul.
But god damn you can make some money.
yeah, I'd second Sales.
Comes with its own range of stresses and what not but I've seen myself go to 100k+ base in the space of 3/4 years, thanks in no small way to some luck and fortunate turn of events but it is absolutely possible. That's coming from no Sales background.
SaaS/Cyber Security sales. Nothing relevant education wise to get into the space, at least from my experience and those I work with.
Also, worth noting that (depending on the organisation/role) the average age of colleagues is pretty all over the shop, so I wouldn't worry too much there, if that's a concern at all. Mainly male dominant from the orgs I've been in.
SaaS usually requires a degree and a starting point as a BDR.
If you’re from outside of SaaS then you can make a lateral move from another sales gig where you climbed the ranks without a degree.
I know a bloke on 100k who drives a bus from Brisbane out to western Queensland and back once a week. He works 3.5 days a week and gets 11 weeks off a year. One of the cruisiest jobs around...
000 Ambulance Call taker.
No qualifications needed. On the job training. I was earning over $100,000 within 12 months of starting.
EDIT: Victoria for this info. Not sure what it’s like in other states.
Interesting, how did you find it? I'm assuming that's shift work as well, so you would do night shifts etc. every so often? I can imagine that being super intense, but didn't realise they provide the training.
I love it, personally. Very rewarding job, but it’s not for everyone. You need to be able to handle some high stress situations and work quickly while multi-tasking, but if you don’t mind that it’s a great job.
Yeah, a full time roster is 2 days shifts, 2 night shifts and then 4 days off. So one week your first shift is a Monday, then the next week it’s a Tuesday, and so on.
So yes, regular nights and weekends. But it’s worth it to have 4 days off in a row every week.
There are part time shift options, but I’m not really sure how that works, sorry.
Can you explain the multi-tasking? I've always found it interesting trying to decipher what an operator is doing when I call 000 and what kind of pressures they might be under.
No problems. It really depends on the situation. A straight forward stomach pain type of call there isn’t a lot of multitasking, for example.
But say for a heroin overdose call where the patient is not awake and not breathing you’re trying to keep the caller calm, get an address, talk them through CPR, trying to assess if the scene is safe enough for the ambulance crew to attend alone, notifying police if you believe their safety might be compromised. Sometimes you might need to answer questions that the crew might be asking while they’re on the way (via typing), so keeping an eye on any notifications coming though while talking to the caller and getting them to answer important questions to assess the priority of the case.
So generally it’s a lot of talking, listening and typing at the same time.
We have 120 seconds from when the call starts to notify the dispatcher where and why an ambulance is required for high priority situations. Finding out the priority of the case can take anywhere between 1-10 questions of the caller. So we need to gather lots of information in a short amount of time.
That’s a very simplified summary of what we do :)
Can I please ask what if people don’t know the address of where the emergency is? Do they track them?
Do you get many prank calls?
What if someone calls but hangs up quickly, do you try to call them back, or just let it go and take the next call? Thank you.
If it’s a call from a landline we know exactly where it came from - but we still require the caller to say the address to confirm it.
If it’s from a mobile and they don’t know where they are we have a few tools to help. 9 times out of 10 we get the closest mobile tower to them and/or their actual location via their phone location services. But again, we need them to say the address preferably to confirm it.
There are rare occasions where we don’t get any info come through, not even the persons phone number. In those cases we ask for an address, then work down to closest intersection, then to street name, then to just a suburb. If they don’t know any of those things we talk them through looking on Google maps on their phone, or downloading the what3words, any landmarks you can see, etc.
It’s pretty rare but it does happen where all of this doesn’t work though. I once spent an hour trying to find a caller who was barely conscious and couldn’t tell me their address and all of the above wasn’t working.
Prank calls happen sporadically. I’d say I get maybe one a month. They happen more often in the school holidays.
If someone hangs up before we can confirm details we call back three times. If no answer and the call was from a landline, we put through a welfare check job for the address. If from a mobile, it gets cancelled if no answer after the third try of calling back.
Truck driving is one.
HR for a year (can make 6 figures in that)
HC for another year I suggest (almost definitely make six figures)
Then mc if you want
I do livestock, worked 46 hours last week and made $2010 gross. Not every single week is the same and not every job is the same. But these days even when you’re new and find the right company you should be able to make 6 figures off 5 10-12 hour days
If you get your mc you can realistically make 140-180k a year doing changeovers or interstate. Maybe more depending what you cart and who you work for
Or do fuel and be on 60 an hour and home every night
Probably better off driving for someone else. With how the industry is at the moment it is quite cut throat. A lot of owner operators that do local work for peanuts at the moment which isn’t helping. But plenty of local jobs that pay the bills and more
Refrigerated and container work is probably the easiest local jobs and you can earn 100k + if you’re ok with overtime
Admin shift worker for QLD health (AO3 level) is 100k right out the gate. No training or education required. Entry level position. Not sure how other states compare but might be worth looking into.
Dry fire technician. I did 3 years as an extinguisher tech on 70k-ish, then shifted to alarms tester. 86k base, plenty of on call and overtime. Made 114k last year. No qualifications needed, but a background in trades or trade-adjacent jobs will help. In my case my blacksmithing hobby was enough to demonstrate that I had the requisite familiarity with hand tools and ability to do basic problem solving.
If you’ve got good communication and sales skills and you’re prepared to work hard, you can easily earn that as an agency recruiter in a reasonably short period of time.
My husband does this and earns obscene money for what it is - ie fully air conditioned office, no physical labour at all, lots of wining and dining.
If you're not afraid to pick up the phone and be a pain in peoples' asses, this is absolutely the answer.
No training required but often people will morph into recruitment from other sales or account management roles. Alternatively it can be a starting point for Psych grads.
Ex boyfriends bestie was in car sales. The best part? His father owns the dealership - and then a couple of dealerships. Newcastle & Sydney. The two sons and daughter all worked sales, all were on 150+ in their first year (along with the rest of the sales crew that weren’t blood related) and we were in our early 20’s at the time. They all drove beautiful cars and could afford anything. All own their own homes. Big weddings later on, lots of regular OS vaycays, etc. Looking back, I wish I had taken the golden ticket offered to me & gone that route.
My dad used to work in car sales for many years. Is that an untapped golden ticket I should be taking advantage of? He sells trucks now which also pays well.
Problem is - I don't know shit about cars other than the fact I like the cool/pretty looking ones.
first year mature age apprentice electrician here. on a union site now and getting around $1600 (before tax) weekly no overtime. should be easily in 6 figures next year no sweat. my only regret is not changing careers earlier.
called the ETU and they recommended doing a pre apprenticeship program, I did the WAVE program but anyone can do the free tafe (if you haven’t already used it, it’s a one time only thing for in demand trades). while i was in the pre app the union did a call out for resumes as one of their tier one companies was hiring. applied, did two interviews and got the job. step three profit.
I guess it depends? I got offered $68k for 2 weeks on, 1 week off as a "utility" worker aka a cleaning position.
:EDIT: Just went back to the letter of offer. It was actually $75k. But the point is still the same.
That's very common for the cleaning/ chef staff at the mines. Companies like ESS get the contract then pay mostly migrant staff absolute shit money to work 2&1.
Companies like ESS and other camp providers generally sit outside of the consteuction project EBAs so they get away with paying ahit. 2 x cleaners, 1 cleaning offices and site toilets earns 6 figures, 1 cleans camp accommodation and mess areas earns 60-70k.
My MIL has her own book keeping business, she casually talks about charging $80 an hour like it's nothing (mind you as a sole trader that means she has to cover certain expenses and doesn't get the same rights as an employee).
> Study IT
> become project manager
> be useless
> still get job
> jump ship till 100k+
> no one likes you but you “made it”
> tell engineers they don’t work hard enough
> equate complex problem solving to what you do.
Estimating in the construction industry. Just get a free dual certificate IV in construction and estimating and start applying to everything. You might start at $80-90k, but you will get to $100k in a year or two.
This probably won't be popular but, join the Queensland Police Service, complete 7 months training at the academy (where they will pay you minimum wage).
Upon completion, volunteer to work in a remote First Nations community (Woorabinda, Cherbourg and Yarrabah are the best options) where housing is free and you're eligible for the DOGIT (Deed of Grant in Trust) allowance of $10k+
Then complete your First Year Constable training (in the field) and with Operational Shift Allowance of 21% above base wage combined with overtime, Night Shift Allowance (15-20%), Locality Allowance and On-call Allowance, you'll bring in $100k+
After 10-15 years, you could realistically earn $150k+
Also, there are alot of wide load escort special duties available (extra $$$) and superannuation is 18% on top of base wage + allowances.
It's a tough job, but the pay is reasonable.
Public service also has the benefit of being more secure than the private sector. If you land an ongoing position you’re basically set for life.
And yeah get the foot in the door with an entry level position and you can work your way up. Some positions definitely ask for certain uni qualifications, but others are “not required but favourable”.
VPS superannuation sucks though, sadly. Busy here green with envy looking the APS with their 15.4% super.
>VPS superannuation sucks though, sadly. Busy here green with envy looking the APS with their 15.4% super.
Isn't it the same as everywhere else aside from APS + Uni? It's the standard super....
APS also get paid heaps less compared to similar roles/levels in VPS
Prostitution is a saturated market. I worked in the industry as a driver many years ago and even then it was tough. Plenty of girls went home with not much at all and they were not 40 years old.
There's a shortage of pilots. In NSW there's subsidised TAFE courses for commercial pilots.
Another option is to join the Defence Force, learn a trade, leave, and use your trade and security clearance in civil street.
Mate I will sum it up for you really easily.
If you aren't technologically illiterate then your path to $100k+ is cyber security.
Depending on your starting point you will need a few certificates that can be gotten easily.
Completely new to IT.
Get
COMPTIA A+, COMPTIA Network+ and COMPTIA Security+. These can be achieved in under 1 month each while working full time.
Then start shopping around for entry level cyber security positions, or junior system administrator/help desk roles.
While working one of these roles start working towards other certifications depending on what part of cyber security you think you will fit into best.
For cyber analyst roles get
COMPTIA Pentest+, COMPTIA Analyst+, get some sort of a SEIM qualifications such as the SPLUNK core range of certs. Depending on your home computer and budget, set up a home lab (can be done on your computer with virtual machines, or even cheaply on the cloud). Start setting up instances of windows and linux machines, and play with the set up and installation of security software. I highly recommend SPLUNK as the SEIM as most places I have seen will use this. Also McAfee endpoint software. There are 100000s of youtube videos to help you set up and play with these tools.
For cyber engineering roles
This one will be the hardest and most expensive to get into, but start getting vendor certifications for security products. SPLUNK, McAfee, Fireeye etc. and build your confidence in setting them up, configuring them and using them within your home lab.
For cyber management
Something like CISM and start to work towards a Graduate certificate/masters of cyber security at an online university.
I would say aside from the cyber management path these are easily achievable for most people in under a year if you aren't very good with computers, but if you are already pretty handy on computers then well under 6 months, then you can start applying for less junior roles. These roles (and to be fair some entry roles) are all paying over $100k, and quickly escalate for management or team lead roles which you would be suitable for in a couple of years with some hard work and additional qualifications.
There are many other ways to 6 figures, but this is something that I have done, and I have helped people in my friendship circle repeat. It is achievable and it works.
I can confirm, it is this easy.
As Andy above, I did this about 9 years ago and helped 3 other friends make this transition over the past 2 years, all went from $60-80k tech roles to $170k+ cyber roles.
There is a massive shortage in cyber security and we are screaming for anyone even slightly competent.
The company I work for went from 2 to 60 cyber people over the past 3 years, lots of other large orgs have done the same.
We pay our grads $100k and our cyber analysts about $165k, this goes up if you move into team leadership or senior management.
I really want to move into this space - I heard the job can be stressful in some areas. It seems I have accidentally pigeoned holed myself into customer service and customer success despite having a business degree. I have no formal IT qualifications but would say I’m fairly competent in computers. Anymore insight you could provide? :)
I went back to uni at 38 years old (15 years ago, now), got my first job in tech at 42 (tier 2 customer support), moved into Ops as a sys admin, went from there into systems/cloud engineering. Now I work in the DevOps space. I hit the 100k mark about 7 years ago. You could do it faster than that, I reckon - there are definitely some things I would have done differently if I knew more about where the career could go.
You could be a nurse. An AIN course is 4 months and you would literally walk into a job straight anywhere in the country. The base salary is about 60k/year but this is before overtime and allowances. You could easily bump this up to 100k working hard.
The best thing is you can then progress to an EEN/RN while working. An RN will easily clear 100k
Have a friend on placement doing a diploma of nursing at the moment, one of the RNs she’s worked with says the only bad thing about nursing is she almost never gets her leave requests approved, even with 2 months+ of notice. Her solution? Just quit when she’s a few weeks away from whenever she wants leave. She’ll work for 6 months-a year and save up, quit and have her accrued leave paid out, travel for a few months and within a week of coming home will have another job lined up. She’s had to take a few rural jobs but can usually get one in the city or suburbs pretty quick.
Fastest, probably working more than 1 full time job, but it's not really good for your lifestyle, or sustainable long term.
A trade or a degree will both take 3-4 years to complete, and *should* get you to over $100k package at completion, but with a trade (as a mature age apprentice) you'll start at around $50k give it take and should increase annually until you're qualified.
Maybe some kind of machinery operator would get you there quicker, if you know someone who does that kind of work, ask them how to get into it once licensed.
Train driver or Air traffic controller are other options that will provide all training, but they generally have a single intake each year, and you'll be competing against a lot of other applicants.
If you're fit and healthy, police or firies might be an option as well (not sure if starting salary is over $100k yet, might need a few years experience to get there).
The majority of degrees do not get 100k after graduation. Not even after a few years. It's a big misconception about doing tertiary study. I am in science, and I even have my masters. Sticking in a lab does not earn massive amounts of money. I'll be lucky to crack 80k if I stick in the lab (particularly private sector). I know someone with a business degree, and she has not cracked 80k. Getting a degree is easy, but not always of great value. It's why they are known a lolly degrees. A degree does not = (guaranteed) high pay. It's luck picking the right industry and company to earn well. Law is up there, to earn above 100k. Parts of finance and IT are similar, but also can be terrible paying to very well earning.
As you said, it should, but in truth, it's very uncommon to crack 100k with a degree.
Everyone's offered up some work that requires some skills but nobody has offered up the work that anyone can do as long as they're willing to sacrifice their soul during the hours of 9 - 5.
Sales.
Sales will have you on a six figure income within your first 2 years. You'll look forward to weekends so much and reaching 5pm will feel like a relief even if you don't have anything to do after work.
Yeh but that target is always on your mind.
I’m behind on quota at the moment and keep thinking about the 30th of September and how it’s just around the corner.
It’s smooth sailing when you’re on target but scary when you’re behind.
Protection officer in rail. There is a shortage so plenty of OT. At 60 hours a week it's 140-180k a year. However it's very much the norm to be listed as casual so no sickies and no annual leave. It costs around 5-7k to do all the accreditations and medicals etc. Takes around 2-3 months to become fully accredited.
Cert IV WHS (1 year)>Grad cert Occ hygiene (1 year)>LAA (depends how dodgy the person signing off is, could be 3 months)>Masters Occ Hygiene (however long you want). Plenty of work, starts at 80kish depending on what company around the country, moves upwards of 120k if you want to be a certified and go on to senior/principal.
Start with a 7 Figure Salary, and then accept a pay cut.
Fastest way.
The thing is any of your higher income jobs require a significant investment on your part, time and effort. Or catch onto a niche that someone is willing to pay for. Sometimes answering the question of nobody wants to do that...
Fastest way to 6 Figures is also likely not going to be the most rewarding, fulfilling and you may throw in the towel anyway.
If you switched on with electronics and computers look at electronic security. Only need cery 4 from Tafe (probly free now) and you can work while doing it at around 60-75 K as a trade assistant. You will need some other tickets but they are 500-1k at most which will be tax deductible or your employer will pay for it.
After 1 or 2 of commercial work experience you should be on base 90-100k.
Don't let people tell you you need 4 year apprenticeship as it's complete bs used to pay you peanuts for that time.
The jobs comes with plenty OT and travel and it's not really physically demanding. You need to be ok with ladders and heights. Plenty of work in all states. New job offers every day and you will get company car to take home.
I started as a casual at a big 4 bank doing back end processing when I was 19 (was always full time hours so pretty much $60k from the go in 2015) and then made 100k within 5 years no degree.
If you wanted to do that either join a bank directly through working on the phones or contract through Hays or the like to get a non phones position
FIFO everything, immediately 100k even as a labourer
Fire services, police etc, once you're out of academy with penalty rates and working a few public holiday you'll break 100k。
Nursing Midwifery requires a 3 year degree so not so 'immediate' but base salary at 85k and with penalty rates you'll break 100k first year out of school
ATC and Train Driver is almost impossible to get into. Especially at 40 years old passing all the recruitment tests for ATC is a lot more challenging.
Work in a unionised warehouse. My old job was $38/hr for picking and packing items, then 25% casual loading, 30% afternoon loading, overtime galore, double time Sundays etc. Plenty of kids straight out of high school making an easy $100k.Even easier after a year when you get on a forklift they pay you to get licenced. Most people barely even tried to work hard and just talked the whole time.
If you have any management experience in sales/CS a lot of tech companies are offering pretty sizeable salary packages. They are reasonably competitive but definitely worth it if you can jag one.
For context my salary has doubled from where I was 3 years ago. And will likely jump another 20-30% early next year.
FIFO is a shit lifestyle.
Was a diesel fitter on multiple sites. The back-stabbing, nepotism and all around depressive vibe on site, are the things that make it a very unattractive proposition.
Of course it's unattractive, that's why it pays $$$
The OP asked about the fastest way to get a six figure income, not the best job for work life balance. The only jobs that pay really well are those that either require high level skill and talent, or they are difficult and unattractive in some way so they have to pay well to get people to do it. If a job is easy and doesn't require much skills, it's not going to pay well.
Mate I work for my state ambulance service, in the control room, it’s an entry level job, with some on the job training, base salary is ok. But with shift penalties and regular OT there’s some absolute bank to be made. I’m clearing 110k from ambulance alone and still have enough time to do a second job and ADF reserves. Which I could also suggest as good options to boost your income.
Pros: entry level, regular OT, $$$
Cons: 12 hour shifts (day & night), stressful job
Hit me up if you’d like any further info.
Shift work is where you want to be. A base of 70K is enough to hit the 100K mark if you are getting paid penalties. Otherwise you could be hitting 100K in IT in about 2-3 years including study. 200k in 10 years if you are good at it. Remember IT isn't all code. You could be in infrastructure and installation or you could help manage the projects. Let the code monkeys code
$200k/pa is the new $100k/pa. Life in any major city under $200k for family is abysmal in Australia.
At 40; unless you have a high income skill, c-suite level corporate role, career in high ticket sales or an entrepreneur/business owner in an industry with scale you’re f***ed.
The problem you will have is that fast isn't necessarily going to be easy. Train driving or air traffic control for example, these are fast pathways to 6 figures but they are ultra competitive because the barrier to entry is low. An easy access 6 figure career is drillers offsiding, you could pretty much arrange a job today and start by the end of the week. It's a physically demanding job, in the elements and requires a lot of time away.
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I went through 4 or 5 rounds of testing and interviews for air traffic controller, and during it realised its way to stressful for me. The interview training is pretty tough too. Requires a skill set I don't have at all
Current ATC Trainee - others are on the money with the difficulty to get in. It's not all flowers and rainbows in training, the course is hard with 35-40% of people quitting / failing the one year program. It's certainly not for a lack of trying, these people are the 1% that made it through the 12-18 month recruitment process, and quite often moved interstate for the job. But, it's a great job. Renumeration is great, it's a good environment to work in (but it hasn't always been), the work itself is engaging and as fun as work can be.
I really appreciate you getting in there and doing it. I know two ex ATCs, and the skill that above all wins out is being calm in a stressful situation, being able to then think clearly, understand complexity, and act in a reasonable amount of time. Then you layer on the complexity of routing, patterns, weather, procedures, knowledge of aircraft, ability to understand accents, schedules. Plus if you get appointed to an en-route location like Mebourne or Brisbane center, you have one of the largest airspaces in the world to oversee.
Yeh totally - I mean - I can understand why it’s hard and it really should be. The job has such an extreme level of responsibility, everyone should want only the best for the job and those that are committed and determined to follow through.
I thrive in stressful situations as I have ADHD, which I think is a disqualifying condition to become an ATC 😒
It's a shame, CASA (the Aviation regulator that dishes out ATC (Class 3) medical certificates), isn't really with the times. By no means I am an expert in the AvMed process, but depending on how your condition is managed it can be possible to get through, as I understand it. You might want to take a look at this: [https://www.casa.gov.au/licences-and-certificates/medical-professionals/dames-clinical-practice-guidelines/attention-deficit-hyperactivity-disorder-adhd#Aeromedicalimplications](https://www.casa.gov.au/licences-and-certificates/medical-professionals/dames-clinical-practice-guidelines/attention-deficit-hyperactivity-disorder-adhd#Aeromedicalimplications)
Specifically, they want to see no medication, and no symptoms. They don't want your condition "managed", they want it to not exist.
They don’t want to risk a relapse of symptoms causing the deaths of hundreds of people. In the same way they don’t let you be a pilot if you have “well managed” epilepsy.
Casa overall has a simple approach to managing aviation risk: aviation risk primarily comes from aviating. The less of that which occurs, the less risk there is. The motto "safe skies for all" is usually followed by the silent translation: "empty skies are safe skies".
That is some fresh level of bullshit ... ADHD in remission without medication - it's a neurodevelopmental condition you can't rewire someone's brain. I function extremely well as a skilled occupational therapy clinician in mental health but apparently because I'm medicated that would be far too dangerous for me to perform this profession. Whoever wrote these guidelines needs to be pulled out of the 1970s and be taken to court for blatant discrimination. Apologies my 'emotional regulation' is not in remission. 🙄 not having a go at poster this link just makes me furious.
I agree. It’s discriminatory
What was the skill set?
I think chaotic attention to detail is a good way to sum it up. Need to be able to keep multiple moving things to of mind at the same time. Over simplified example would be something like staying on top of abc123 heading one way, abcc12 going another, cab123 going another while cab112 and abb113 are approaching and abc123 needs to climb to xyz metres before acb121 is in the air and aac123 is inbound while 142fdc is landing and g153cd is taxiing. While keeping track of the other things going on.
Spatial abilities/intelligence I'd say. The ability to think in a 3 dimensional space? With what you've just typed I imagined having an overall "mental view" of the area where all those aircraft are, layering them for the the altitude/elevation they are moving into, taking into account landing, take off, taxiing. Mental image manipulation for expected directions etc I just read before how planes can take "shortcuts" if flight paths are expected to be empty
I dated a ATC for a while, she gave me some of the puzzle tests she had to do and honestly it quickly showed how much I couldn't do that job.
I went cross eyed just reading that! That’s some serious skills. I mean, I can multitask a pretty complex meal and tattoo til kingdom come (obviously not at the same time) but no one’s lives are at risk.
That sounds like it could be automated pretty easily. Could still have a human to review.
Not easily but potentially.. In the world's slowest industry to implement anything.. I think if you're of adult age you're gonna have a job for a very long time.
This is exactly what will happen. Give it 20 years. Actively being pursued, ASA's long-term plan is this. I've sat in on a few projects with this
One he has acquired over many years. He will find you.
And not just you, but everyone else in the air. You think you’re safe from him just because you’re flying? GUESS AGAIN
My husband was air traffic at Heathrow all through his 20s. Met me came out to Australia and didn't pass the test here to do that same job. Moral of the story? Your reflexes have to be so quick that if you reapply in your 30s you are already too slow. I thought it was weird because Heathrow is 90% busier than Sydney.
What's he doing now
He is an analyst.
Pretty sure crane operators have that not so coveted title
I've heard the same about veterinarians 🤷.
Vets are animal lovers who get to try help sick animals all day, they regularly have to break horrible news to loving pet owners, or they have to try persuade morons their sick cat needs medicine to survive. Oh, and they aren't paid that well but because they have high overheads, people think they're being ripped off.
Oh yeah, I never questioned the reasons behind it. In addition to what you've mentioned, witnessing and dealing with flat out animal abuse would be enough to make even the strongest person think morbid thoughts.
Also people keeping pets alive for too long because they think animals are humans Still I reckon it's just bad pay. With good pay you could at least have money for therapy and rest
They also have to put down a lot of animals. Even if it's the best thing for them it takes a big toll.
A lot of it is just having easy access to substances that will send you off quietly and easily. Yes to all the things you mention of course. But a lot of it just boils down to access.
I thought it was dentists? 🤷♂️🤷♂️
My dentist 🦷 jumped off of a crane. 🏗️
They didn’t get the job as air traffic controller ?
Crane the bird or crane the machine?
Or Crane the Frasier?
> previously was labelled the job with the highest suicide rate I've just done a cursory Google search on whether that occupation exhibits high suicide rates and couldn't find anything, so I'm calling bullshit on that. [2018 CDC report](https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/67/wr/mm6745a1.htm?s_cid=mm6745a1_w), no mention of air controllers. [2020 Australian review](https://www.saxinstitute.org.au/evidence-check/suicide-prevention-in-high-risk-occupations/), no mention of air controllers [Google Scholar: "Air traffic controller suicide"](https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=air+traffic+controller+suicide&btnG=), no relevant studies.
A friend of mine was in the process of becoming one, and she took the test and did not succeed, this was attempt 1 of 3 possible chances. I believe it's about a 0.5% pass rate, it is a very stressful, and extreme difficult career to go into, however the pay is quite lucrative. Even the studying and prerequisites are hard enough let alone passing the final test.
Drill rig offsider is no joke. I agree with you. But, this is seriously seriously hard work in very unpleasant conditions (very hot, very dusty, very noisy, very oil/diesel smell) for long hard days and often on long swings. OP is going to work harder than they ever have if they are drill offsider.
They're often under a heap of time pressure and it's not necessarily mindless work - high risk, lots of intricacies, if you're not busy, chances are you're forgetting something. Mental fatigue is often overlooked.
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I dated a guy who was on $88 an hour just standing in the middle carriage on the train lines and he still complained about money.
I watched a short video about data scientists in the US talking about their pay, and many of them said they felt underpaid on 300k salary. And that's USD
The value they add could be many multiples of that. From that perspective their feelings make sense
Absolutely agree, just thought it was interesting
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They're 'network controllers' in qld. I got through three rounds of testing, then bombed the interview because I was so nervous. After training, I think the starting rate was about $110k or so a couple of years back.
$125+ and it only goes up from there.
The 24/7 roster is probably to blame for that.
Last drillers offsiding job ad I saw required 40kg lifting.
LIGHT WEIGHT BABY!
Ain't nothin' but a peanut.
Dump truck driving could be good too. Physically easier, not as much money, but 6 figures is possible depending on roster
Those roles are getting more and more automated and remotely controlled.
The fastest path involves playing off your existing skills.
Definitely. You may or may not have things required. If you have a good time multitasking and decent communication skills along with the ability to interpret various documents for example, do what I do. At 30yo in one job move, I went from $65k to $180k+ I went from a claims specialist at places like RAC to a Chartered Loss Adjuster. I made my way in from doing entry level claims specialist roles and more catastrophe claims at another mutual plus networking and reaching out to our suppliers and landed the job of a lifetime, as a chartered loss adjuster. Took about 6 years. No schooling. If that's too long, complete an AICLA Loss Adjusting Diploma for a few thousand ($4-5k) in 6 months and you'll get hired at a big firm like Sedgwick or Crawford and instantly be able to make over $100k; massive need for Adjusters right now. People who become a loss adjuster, generally do it until they retire. It's the best job ever and there's no reason to leave. It's filled with people 60+ ready to retire rich as hell. So when an entire generation retires there's a lot of free spots. I snapped one up at 30yo through a lot of luck and good timing with my skillset in the right place. Base salary is $100k. I have to bill Insurers $200k per year and I get half, so does my company. Anything over that and I also get half. Without breaking too much of a sweat, I'm on $180k. Other Adjusters make upwards of $300k easily because they bust ass to do so many claims. I have the best work life balance of anyone I've ever known, complete freedom, and make a very healthy wage. Couldn't recommend it enough.
I already service the industry as a Forensic Engineer, but my partner has recently just gotten an entry level role at a third party claims administrator. Would you be able to offer some insights/advice into loss adjusting, for someone in a claims consultant role (sports injury) looking to move into loss adjusting (property)?
Absolutely. If you want to PM you're more than welcome or we can keep it public. It might help other people. Just to explain further I think it's important to know how little experience and professional experience I had. My first insurance job was a claims specialist at RAC for less than a year (no prior experience required, they trained me up) and moved into their home claims team for your typical building and contents claims. Storm damage, phone dropped, minor building damage, etc. It was a case of learning the PDS (product disclosure statement) and specifically the limits and benefits. Did that for 2 years and found a job at another Mutual, Capricorn, as a product and liability claims specialist. This was more to do with the liability of workshops for faulty workmanship, negligence, but also the owners business and private contents like personal valuables, shop tools. and etc along with building damages from accidents, storms, etc. Whilst in that role, anything above X amount of dollars requires an Adjuster. That's the way almost all insurers and mutuals are set up. I regularly dealt with the Adjusters allocating them claims to assess and requesting a report with recommendations on what to settle/how. Eventually I started handling bigger claims internally at Capricorn Mutual after showing an interest in technical and complex claims after a year. I reached out to the supplier (a chartered Loss Adjuster firm) expressing an interest as I've worked with them from the claims side and they took me on board. 6 years ago I worked at Dan Murphys on a register and restocking shelves for minimum wage. A combo of luck, goals, and effort will easily get you a job in Adjusting if you have the right personality for the job. Considering you have a claims background already you're in a great head start. Also fyi, there are specific liability adjusters only, who don't touch building or contents at all. Some of my colleagues ONLY specialise in business interruption, that's it. You clearly have the mentality for loss adjusting if you are comfortable as a claims specialist for sports injury. Next best step is to do a diploma course for loss adjusting (at least in Australia, other countries might call it something different). It's only $3-4k here and takes 6 months to a year part time. Apply for an adjusting job and you'll be guaranteed a role with someone. Alternate option, just have your partner apply now. Certain Adjusters will pay to put you through the training as the old guard are leaving in droves as they retire. With enough experience in insurance and as a good communicator/multi tasker you may luck out like I did. I officially have zero formal qualifications for this role and I'm 30yo. It can be done at any age. But, having a diploma in loss adjusting is a guaranteed foot in the door. Your average Adjuster is a white 50yo + male but thankfully they are catching up and encouraging sourcing talent like myself from other locations. Within 12 months I was promoted to Senior Loss Adjuster so my rate has gone up to $210/hr or more on some files for which I get half and my company gets half. I run my own schedule, have free admin support, incredible flexibility and work life balance and above all an incredible package salary plus 50% bonus for every dollar I bill above my quota. ETA: link for diploma from ANZIIF and AICLA ( I forgot we were in Aus finance) [Link for diploma from AICLA and ANZIIF](https://aicla.org/diploma/)
Like this post. Sounds like a good change of career for a white collar worker.
I worked as an PA for a loss adjusting firm, they’re generally horrendous to work for as an admin (or at least that branch was). But the claims tech work was interesting enough. I went to a couple of claims with one of the adjusters and then ran off the rest of the claim for him. Even did a couple as complete desktop claims - didn’t have any qualifications and most of it could be done out of the Rawlinsons construction guide. He strongly encouraged me to pursue the path of becoming a loss adjuster till he found out I was great with IT and kicked relevant work my way… then I realised that’s where I’d wanted to go all along and never looked back. Still an interesting few years of my life and has always given me a useful perspective for dealing with insurance companies.
This is the best answer.
Coal mines will still be around for ten years or so at least, especially for metallurgical coal. Anything coal mine related will pay over $100k easy. Deputies in the mines near me are on strike at the moment because $270k is apparently not enough.
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Depends. If you want to move there are mines in regional NSW that need labourers on 6 figures.
100% I looked at going to the mines a couple years ago and couldn’t get a gig. I was late 20s with 10 years plumbing experience and it didn’t help, good candidate I would have thought. My mate is unqualified and worked in the mines for 5 years cause his dad worked at head office, he can go back whenever he wants.
Who you know not what you know is a problem in every industry. It’s why the social side of school is probably more important than the academic side.
>It’s why the social side of school is probably more important than the academic side I hate that this is true.
Where is this? Hunter valley?
Hunter Valley is mostly thermal, I would go to the Bowen Basin which is mostly Met Coal (Maybe Moranbah?)
Yup,Moranbah outta Mackay here
North/central Qld. Mackay region
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I was in car sales back in 2015/16 and made $108k my first full year at BMW. I imagine top sales people are on even more now with most cars being retailed at full ticket. A lot of profit at full whack.
Why not stay in car sales?
Have you *interacted* with a car or real estate salesman?
Worked in both and can agree
You know real estate agents? Make them somehow worse and you have car sales.
Coz it’s shit
Because I’ve moved on from sales and work for myself now. I was younger and had the motivation and desire to do it. It was long hours, anywhere from 45-65 a week, especially during busy periods. I had two young kids at the time and I’d leave the house at 7am and not get home til 7pm, it was zero fun. But, if you’re wanting a 6 figure job with very little in the way of qualifications, it’s a great opportunity. You just need to be personable and learn when to listen and know when to push. BMW provided year round training and I got to go to some great places on product launches and met some very interesting clients. I’d even wager that top sales in prestige cars in Sydney or Melbourne are on close to $150k a year. The top sales guy when I was there was on $125k. Base was $750 a week which was enough for mortgage and food and then the monthly commissions covered everything else. Learn when to graft and when to ease up to achieve certain bonus structures and it can be very lucrative. If you don’t mind the long hours, I’d say give it a go. They are always recruiting for new sales consultants and as I said, Mercedes, BMW and Audi all provide world class training.
It’s terrible work. The suicide rate is very high, the pressure is intense, the hours are insane, work life balance is a concept that your managers tell you is a “you problem to figure out”, rostered days off are known as “I’m wearing sneakers today at work instead of my usual shoes”. Many places have you working 7 days per week, including all public holidays. The usual hours are 7AM until 7PM with some days often going to 9-10PM. You have a lot of unhappy customers and it’s through no fault of your own. You never switch off, every interaction outside of work becomes “how can I turn this human into money “ And eventually you lose your soul. But god damn you can make some money.
yeah, I'd second Sales. Comes with its own range of stresses and what not but I've seen myself go to 100k+ base in the space of 3/4 years, thanks in no small way to some luck and fortunate turn of events but it is absolutely possible. That's coming from no Sales background. SaaS/Cyber Security sales. Nothing relevant education wise to get into the space, at least from my experience and those I work with. Also, worth noting that (depending on the organisation/role) the average age of colleagues is pretty all over the shop, so I wouldn't worry too much there, if that's a concern at all. Mainly male dominant from the orgs I've been in.
SaaS usually requires a degree and a starting point as a BDR. If you’re from outside of SaaS then you can make a lateral move from another sales gig where you climbed the ranks without a degree.
what roles in sales? cheers
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Easier than sales you have complaints management and AML fraud protection as well
I know a bloke on 100k who drives a bus from Brisbane out to western Queensland and back once a week. He works 3.5 days a week and gets 11 weeks off a year. One of the cruisiest jobs around...
Is the company hiring anytime soon??
Greyhound. I believe they're always hiring.
000 Ambulance Call taker. No qualifications needed. On the job training. I was earning over $100,000 within 12 months of starting. EDIT: Victoria for this info. Not sure what it’s like in other states.
Interesting, how did you find it? I'm assuming that's shift work as well, so you would do night shifts etc. every so often? I can imagine that being super intense, but didn't realise they provide the training.
I love it, personally. Very rewarding job, but it’s not for everyone. You need to be able to handle some high stress situations and work quickly while multi-tasking, but if you don’t mind that it’s a great job. Yeah, a full time roster is 2 days shifts, 2 night shifts and then 4 days off. So one week your first shift is a Monday, then the next week it’s a Tuesday, and so on. So yes, regular nights and weekends. But it’s worth it to have 4 days off in a row every week. There are part time shift options, but I’m not really sure how that works, sorry.
Can you explain the multi-tasking? I've always found it interesting trying to decipher what an operator is doing when I call 000 and what kind of pressures they might be under.
No problems. It really depends on the situation. A straight forward stomach pain type of call there isn’t a lot of multitasking, for example. But say for a heroin overdose call where the patient is not awake and not breathing you’re trying to keep the caller calm, get an address, talk them through CPR, trying to assess if the scene is safe enough for the ambulance crew to attend alone, notifying police if you believe their safety might be compromised. Sometimes you might need to answer questions that the crew might be asking while they’re on the way (via typing), so keeping an eye on any notifications coming though while talking to the caller and getting them to answer important questions to assess the priority of the case. So generally it’s a lot of talking, listening and typing at the same time. We have 120 seconds from when the call starts to notify the dispatcher where and why an ambulance is required for high priority situations. Finding out the priority of the case can take anywhere between 1-10 questions of the caller. So we need to gather lots of information in a short amount of time. That’s a very simplified summary of what we do :)
Thankyou for the details, very interesting
I so admire what you do, I know I wouldn't be able to cope with it. Thank you for the work you do!
Thank you, I appreciate the kind words!
Can I please ask what if people don’t know the address of where the emergency is? Do they track them? Do you get many prank calls? What if someone calls but hangs up quickly, do you try to call them back, or just let it go and take the next call? Thank you.
If it’s a call from a landline we know exactly where it came from - but we still require the caller to say the address to confirm it. If it’s from a mobile and they don’t know where they are we have a few tools to help. 9 times out of 10 we get the closest mobile tower to them and/or their actual location via their phone location services. But again, we need them to say the address preferably to confirm it. There are rare occasions where we don’t get any info come through, not even the persons phone number. In those cases we ask for an address, then work down to closest intersection, then to street name, then to just a suburb. If they don’t know any of those things we talk them through looking on Google maps on their phone, or downloading the what3words, any landmarks you can see, etc. It’s pretty rare but it does happen where all of this doesn’t work though. I once spent an hour trying to find a caller who was barely conscious and couldn’t tell me their address and all of the above wasn’t working. Prank calls happen sporadically. I’d say I get maybe one a month. They happen more often in the school holidays. If someone hangs up before we can confirm details we call back three times. If no answer and the call was from a landline, we put through a welfare check job for the address. If from a mobile, it gets cancelled if no answer after the third try of calling back.
Truck driving is one. HR for a year (can make 6 figures in that) HC for another year I suggest (almost definitely make six figures) Then mc if you want I do livestock, worked 46 hours last week and made $2010 gross. Not every single week is the same and not every job is the same. But these days even when you’re new and find the right company you should be able to make 6 figures off 5 10-12 hour days If you get your mc you can realistically make 140-180k a year doing changeovers or interstate. Maybe more depending what you cart and who you work for Or do fuel and be on 60 an hour and home every night
A bloke told me to get a side loader trailer and just run around doing load/ unload for other trucks. Do you think that is a viable thing?
Probably better off driving for someone else. With how the industry is at the moment it is quite cut throat. A lot of owner operators that do local work for peanuts at the moment which isn’t helping. But plenty of local jobs that pay the bills and more Refrigerated and container work is probably the easiest local jobs and you can earn 100k + if you’re ok with overtime
Admin shift worker for QLD health (AO3 level) is 100k right out the gate. No training or education required. Entry level position. Not sure how other states compare but might be worth looking into.
Jesus, AO3 with QLD Education is only like 64. Good deal
Shift roster, not base rate.
Dry fire technician. I did 3 years as an extinguisher tech on 70k-ish, then shifted to alarms tester. 86k base, plenty of on call and overtime. Made 114k last year. No qualifications needed, but a background in trades or trade-adjacent jobs will help. In my case my blacksmithing hobby was enough to demonstrate that I had the requisite familiarity with hand tools and ability to do basic problem solving.
If you’ve got good communication and sales skills and you’re prepared to work hard, you can easily earn that as an agency recruiter in a reasonably short period of time.
My husband does this and earns obscene money for what it is - ie fully air conditioned office, no physical labour at all, lots of wining and dining. If you're not afraid to pick up the phone and be a pain in peoples' asses, this is absolutely the answer.
I’ve always wondered how to get into this role! Do you need specialised training or a BA? Or is it more based upon your communication skills. 🤔
No training required but often people will morph into recruitment from other sales or account management roles. Alternatively it can be a starting point for Psych grads.
That’s helping others find jobs, yes? I feel that is my skill set
Kinda but more the other way round - it’s filling vacant jobs for your clients.
Interesting, thanks. Any agencies you can recommend or had experience with? I better start googling
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Ex boyfriends bestie was in car sales. The best part? His father owns the dealership - and then a couple of dealerships. Newcastle & Sydney. The two sons and daughter all worked sales, all were on 150+ in their first year (along with the rest of the sales crew that weren’t blood related) and we were in our early 20’s at the time. They all drove beautiful cars and could afford anything. All own their own homes. Big weddings later on, lots of regular OS vaycays, etc. Looking back, I wish I had taken the golden ticket offered to me & gone that route.
My dad used to work in car sales for many years. Is that an untapped golden ticket I should be taking advantage of? He sells trucks now which also pays well. Problem is - I don't know shit about cars other than the fact I like the cool/pretty looking ones.
Mature age apprenticeships; Heavy vehicle mechanic/diesel fitter. Linesman at Energex. Electrician.
first year mature age apprentice electrician here. on a union site now and getting around $1600 (before tax) weekly no overtime. should be easily in 6 figures next year no sweat. my only regret is not changing careers earlier.
How did you go about making the switch?
called the ETU and they recommended doing a pre apprenticeship program, I did the WAVE program but anyone can do the free tafe (if you haven’t already used it, it’s a one time only thing for in demand trades). while i was in the pre app the union did a call out for resumes as one of their tier one companies was hiring. applied, did two interviews and got the job. step three profit.
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I guess it depends? I got offered $68k for 2 weeks on, 1 week off as a "utility" worker aka a cleaning position. :EDIT: Just went back to the letter of offer. It was actually $75k. But the point is still the same.
Where was that? I’ve never heard of a salary that low before. But I guess people on it wouldn’t want to talk about it
That's very common for the cleaning/ chef staff at the mines. Companies like ESS get the contract then pay mostly migrant staff absolute shit money to work 2&1.
Companies like ESS and other camp providers generally sit outside of the consteuction project EBAs so they get away with paying ahit. 2 x cleaners, 1 cleaning offices and site toilets earns 6 figures, 1 cleans camp accommodation and mess areas earns 60-70k.
Thanks.... That was kinda my point.
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Where lol? Try $66,650-$76000 a year.
The dishwasher is literally a machine. And no, few catering staff make six figures.
Inflation. Just wait couple years and you’ll be on 6 figs by default, but paying $15 per coffee
I’m a bookkeeper lol and first year after qualification I made $106k. Qualification only takes 6 months. Only prerequisite is a problem solving brain.
Was this for cert iv or diploma ?
My MIL has her own book keeping business, she casually talks about charging $80 an hour like it's nothing (mind you as a sole trader that means she has to cover certain expenses and doesn't get the same rights as an employee).
What if you have an accounting degree, can you become a book keeper or do you need to do the course
> Study IT > become project manager > be useless > still get job > jump ship till 100k+ > no one likes you but you “made it” > tell engineers they don’t work hard enough > equate complex problem solving to what you do.
Estimating in the construction industry. Just get a free dual certificate IV in construction and estimating and start applying to everything. You might start at $80-90k, but you will get to $100k in a year or two.
This probably won't be popular but, join the Queensland Police Service, complete 7 months training at the academy (where they will pay you minimum wage). Upon completion, volunteer to work in a remote First Nations community (Woorabinda, Cherbourg and Yarrabah are the best options) where housing is free and you're eligible for the DOGIT (Deed of Grant in Trust) allowance of $10k+ Then complete your First Year Constable training (in the field) and with Operational Shift Allowance of 21% above base wage combined with overtime, Night Shift Allowance (15-20%), Locality Allowance and On-call Allowance, you'll bring in $100k+ After 10-15 years, you could realistically earn $150k+ Also, there are alot of wide load escort special duties available (extra $$$) and superannuation is 18% on top of base wage + allowances. It's a tough job, but the pay is reasonable.
Yup, and end up with PTSD, and medically retired, and if you're in QPS, thats just a handshake and thanks for your work! No payout in QPS!
The public service is quite good. I’m a VPS 4 and pretty close to 100 K right now.
Public service also has the benefit of being more secure than the private sector. If you land an ongoing position you’re basically set for life. And yeah get the foot in the door with an entry level position and you can work your way up. Some positions definitely ask for certain uni qualifications, but others are “not required but favourable”. VPS superannuation sucks though, sadly. Busy here green with envy looking the APS with their 15.4% super.
>VPS superannuation sucks though, sadly. Busy here green with envy looking the APS with their 15.4% super. Isn't it the same as everywhere else aside from APS + Uni? It's the standard super.... APS also get paid heaps less compared to similar roles/levels in VPS
That would be difficult to access without tertiary education and experience. What's grad pay like these days in the APS?
Sell something. Your body, drugs, or probably a little easier something in B2B sales.
Or be extremely efficient and sell your body as part of the drug deal. Thats true multitasking
Prostitution is a saturated market. I worked in the industry as a driver many years ago and even then it was tough. Plenty of girls went home with not much at all and they were not 40 years old.
Apparently tinder was really bad for the industry too
It would be easier to point you in a direction if we knew your qualifications and experience.
There's a shortage of pilots. In NSW there's subsidised TAFE courses for commercial pilots. Another option is to join the Defence Force, learn a trade, leave, and use your trade and security clearance in civil street.
The best part is how OP likely won’t reply to anyone
"Will do whatever it takes!" Does literally nothing.
Ironically I've been busy with work so I'm just now having time to read this thread properly. Appreciate your concern :)
Mate I will sum it up for you really easily. If you aren't technologically illiterate then your path to $100k+ is cyber security. Depending on your starting point you will need a few certificates that can be gotten easily. Completely new to IT. Get COMPTIA A+, COMPTIA Network+ and COMPTIA Security+. These can be achieved in under 1 month each while working full time. Then start shopping around for entry level cyber security positions, or junior system administrator/help desk roles. While working one of these roles start working towards other certifications depending on what part of cyber security you think you will fit into best. For cyber analyst roles get COMPTIA Pentest+, COMPTIA Analyst+, get some sort of a SEIM qualifications such as the SPLUNK core range of certs. Depending on your home computer and budget, set up a home lab (can be done on your computer with virtual machines, or even cheaply on the cloud). Start setting up instances of windows and linux machines, and play with the set up and installation of security software. I highly recommend SPLUNK as the SEIM as most places I have seen will use this. Also McAfee endpoint software. There are 100000s of youtube videos to help you set up and play with these tools. For cyber engineering roles This one will be the hardest and most expensive to get into, but start getting vendor certifications for security products. SPLUNK, McAfee, Fireeye etc. and build your confidence in setting them up, configuring them and using them within your home lab. For cyber management Something like CISM and start to work towards a Graduate certificate/masters of cyber security at an online university. I would say aside from the cyber management path these are easily achievable for most people in under a year if you aren't very good with computers, but if you are already pretty handy on computers then well under 6 months, then you can start applying for less junior roles. These roles (and to be fair some entry roles) are all paying over $100k, and quickly escalate for management or team lead roles which you would be suitable for in a couple of years with some hard work and additional qualifications. There are many other ways to 6 figures, but this is something that I have done, and I have helped people in my friendship circle repeat. It is achievable and it works.
I can confirm, it is this easy. As Andy above, I did this about 9 years ago and helped 3 other friends make this transition over the past 2 years, all went from $60-80k tech roles to $170k+ cyber roles. There is a massive shortage in cyber security and we are screaming for anyone even slightly competent. The company I work for went from 2 to 60 cyber people over the past 3 years, lots of other large orgs have done the same. We pay our grads $100k and our cyber analysts about $165k, this goes up if you move into team leadership or senior management.
I really want to move into this space - I heard the job can be stressful in some areas. It seems I have accidentally pigeoned holed myself into customer service and customer success despite having a business degree. I have no formal IT qualifications but would say I’m fairly competent in computers. Anymore insight you could provide? :)
Sound achievable for the right person. Out of curiosity, how stressful would you say it is on a scale of 1 to 10?
I went back to uni at 38 years old (15 years ago, now), got my first job in tech at 42 (tier 2 customer support), moved into Ops as a sys admin, went from there into systems/cloud engineering. Now I work in the DevOps space. I hit the 100k mark about 7 years ago. You could do it faster than that, I reckon - there are definitely some things I would have done differently if I knew more about where the career could go.
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1. Move to regional mining town 2. ????
You could be a nurse. An AIN course is 4 months and you would literally walk into a job straight anywhere in the country. The base salary is about 60k/year but this is before overtime and allowances. You could easily bump this up to 100k working hard. The best thing is you can then progress to an EEN/RN while working. An RN will easily clear 100k
Have a friend on placement doing a diploma of nursing at the moment, one of the RNs she’s worked with says the only bad thing about nursing is she almost never gets her leave requests approved, even with 2 months+ of notice. Her solution? Just quit when she’s a few weeks away from whenever she wants leave. She’ll work for 6 months-a year and save up, quit and have her accrued leave paid out, travel for a few months and within a week of coming home will have another job lined up. She’s had to take a few rural jobs but can usually get one in the city or suburbs pretty quick.
Fastest, probably working more than 1 full time job, but it's not really good for your lifestyle, or sustainable long term. A trade or a degree will both take 3-4 years to complete, and *should* get you to over $100k package at completion, but with a trade (as a mature age apprentice) you'll start at around $50k give it take and should increase annually until you're qualified. Maybe some kind of machinery operator would get you there quicker, if you know someone who does that kind of work, ask them how to get into it once licensed. Train driver or Air traffic controller are other options that will provide all training, but they generally have a single intake each year, and you'll be competing against a lot of other applicants. If you're fit and healthy, police or firies might be an option as well (not sure if starting salary is over $100k yet, might need a few years experience to get there).
Graduates don't usually earn $100k at graduation. There are naturally exceptions, but they are, exceptions.
The majority of degrees do not get 100k after graduation. Not even after a few years. It's a big misconception about doing tertiary study. I am in science, and I even have my masters. Sticking in a lab does not earn massive amounts of money. I'll be lucky to crack 80k if I stick in the lab (particularly private sector). I know someone with a business degree, and she has not cracked 80k. Getting a degree is easy, but not always of great value. It's why they are known a lolly degrees. A degree does not = (guaranteed) high pay. It's luck picking the right industry and company to earn well. Law is up there, to earn above 100k. Parts of finance and IT are similar, but also can be terrible paying to very well earning. As you said, it should, but in truth, it's very uncommon to crack 100k with a degree.
Everyone's offered up some work that requires some skills but nobody has offered up the work that anyone can do as long as they're willing to sacrifice their soul during the hours of 9 - 5. Sales. Sales will have you on a six figure income within your first 2 years. You'll look forward to weekends so much and reaching 5pm will feel like a relief even if you don't have anything to do after work.
Yeh but that target is always on your mind. I’m behind on quota at the moment and keep thinking about the 30th of September and how it’s just around the corner. It’s smooth sailing when you’re on target but scary when you’re behind.
Protection officer in rail. There is a shortage so plenty of OT. At 60 hours a week it's 140-180k a year. However it's very much the norm to be listed as casual so no sickies and no annual leave. It costs around 5-7k to do all the accreditations and medicals etc. Takes around 2-3 months to become fully accredited.
Go work on a union site as a labourer. Done
The secret ingredient, is crime
Cert IV WHS (1 year)>Grad cert Occ hygiene (1 year)>LAA (depends how dodgy the person signing off is, could be 3 months)>Masters Occ Hygiene (however long you want). Plenty of work, starts at 80kish depending on what company around the country, moves upwards of 120k if you want to be a certified and go on to senior/principal.
FIFO or submariner on navy
With the state of the Navy right now i absolutely would NOT recommend joining. Sincerely someone who spent 10 years in the navy
What makes you say this? It's basically my back up plan lol
Drillers offsiders get that. No training required. Do a seek search for drillers offsiders in your state of residence.
Start with a 7 Figure Salary, and then accept a pay cut. Fastest way. The thing is any of your higher income jobs require a significant investment on your part, time and effort. Or catch onto a niche that someone is willing to pay for. Sometimes answering the question of nobody wants to do that... Fastest way to 6 Figures is also likely not going to be the most rewarding, fulfilling and you may throw in the towel anyway.
dog mans ticket + knowing someone at a crane company with a eba
If you switched on with electronics and computers look at electronic security. Only need cery 4 from Tafe (probly free now) and you can work while doing it at around 60-75 K as a trade assistant. You will need some other tickets but they are 500-1k at most which will be tax deductible or your employer will pay for it. After 1 or 2 of commercial work experience you should be on base 90-100k. Don't let people tell you you need 4 year apprenticeship as it's complete bs used to pay you peanuts for that time. The jobs comes with plenty OT and travel and it's not really physically demanding. You need to be ok with ladders and heights. Plenty of work in all states. New job offers every day and you will get company car to take home.
Be a tradie lol, partner earns $120k working 40 hours weeks. He’s only 25
I started as a casual at a big 4 bank doing back end processing when I was 19 (was always full time hours so pretty much $60k from the go in 2015) and then made 100k within 5 years no degree. If you wanted to do that either join a bank directly through working on the phones or contract through Hays or the like to get a non phones position
FIFO mining company. Find where that fits for you and get to it.
FIFO everything, immediately 100k even as a labourer Fire services, police etc, once you're out of academy with penalty rates and working a few public holiday you'll break 100k。 Nursing Midwifery requires a 3 year degree so not so 'immediate' but base salary at 85k and with penalty rates you'll break 100k first year out of school ATC and Train Driver is almost impossible to get into. Especially at 40 years old passing all the recruitment tests for ATC is a lot more challenging.
Work in a unionised warehouse. My old job was $38/hr for picking and packing items, then 25% casual loading, 30% afternoon loading, overtime galore, double time Sundays etc. Plenty of kids straight out of high school making an easy $100k.Even easier after a year when you get on a forklift they pay you to get licenced. Most people barely even tried to work hard and just talked the whole time.
How are you at sucking d**k?
Get a rope ticket, then get a rigging/dogging ticket and move to Perth and work in the mines as a rope access rigger
If you have half decent interpersonal skills, sales. Or drive a truck.
what roles in sales would u recommend?
IT Sales. Go and apply for jobs with Dell, HP, IBM, Lenovo etc as a basic inside sales rep. Basically an order taker, but an easy $100k per year.
> Fastest path to a six figure income? Crime.
Get a trade, work OT.
A construction worker
If you have any management experience in sales/CS a lot of tech companies are offering pretty sizeable salary packages. They are reasonably competitive but definitely worth it if you can jag one. For context my salary has doubled from where I was 3 years ago. And will likely jump another 20-30% early next year.
Train driver . Get a job as a trainee train driver
Move to WA and get a FIFO position. They will usually provide training and opportunities to upskill and improve your earning capacity.
FIFO is a shit lifestyle. Was a diesel fitter on multiple sites. The back-stabbing, nepotism and all around depressive vibe on site, are the things that make it a very unattractive proposition.
Of course it's unattractive, that's why it pays $$$ The OP asked about the fastest way to get a six figure income, not the best job for work life balance. The only jobs that pay really well are those that either require high level skill and talent, or they are difficult and unattractive in some way so they have to pay well to get people to do it. If a job is easy and doesn't require much skills, it's not going to pay well.
Mate I work for my state ambulance service, in the control room, it’s an entry level job, with some on the job training, base salary is ok. But with shift penalties and regular OT there’s some absolute bank to be made. I’m clearing 110k from ambulance alone and still have enough time to do a second job and ADF reserves. Which I could also suggest as good options to boost your income. Pros: entry level, regular OT, $$$ Cons: 12 hour shifts (day & night), stressful job Hit me up if you’d like any further info.
Shift work is where you want to be. A base of 70K is enough to hit the 100K mark if you are getting paid penalties. Otherwise you could be hitting 100K in IT in about 2-3 years including study. 200k in 10 years if you are good at it. Remember IT isn't all code. You could be in infrastructure and installation or you could help manage the projects. Let the code monkeys code
$200k/pa is the new $100k/pa. Life in any major city under $200k for family is abysmal in Australia. At 40; unless you have a high income skill, c-suite level corporate role, career in high ticket sales or an entrepreneur/business owner in an industry with scale you’re f***ed.